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2013-02-20 02:39:57 PM
Fellowship should have won MORE Oscars, not fewer.

The visual effects in Golden Compass are amazing and unique. Hello, armored polar bears! Certainly much more difficult to pull off than fighting metal robots.
 
2013-02-20 02:53:14 PM

FriarReb98: I don't care how  technically good of a movie  Citizen Kane is, the undeniable fact is that there's a reason it's a hallmark of boring movies.   Because it was painfully boring.  We get it, Randolph Hearst was a douche of biblical proportions.   Didn't take me 3 hours to tell you so.


2/10.

frepnog: FriarReb98: I don't care how  technically good of a movie  Citizen Kane is, the undeniable fact is that there's a reason it's a hallmark of boring movies.   Because it was painfully boring.  We get it, Randolph Hearst was a douche of biblical proportions.   Didn't take me 3 hours to tell you so.

Citizen Kane is a pretentious turd shat from a pretentious anus.  It is practically unwatchable no matter what wiz-bang camera bullcrap it has.


1/10.
 
2013-02-20 03:01:36 PM

Galvatron Zero: So many issues with Brokeback Mountain.  It keeps being lauded for being this great step for cinema in its portrayal of gay lead characters yet it does such an injustice to the GLBT community -- portraying the characters as manipulative liars with commitment issues and ending, unsurprisingly, in tragedy.  Bravo.


Well, if you wanna go down that road (NTTAWWT), American Beauty was much, much worse.  Severely closeted, apparently homophobic uber-jarhead gets all shooty when he worries his secret might get out.
 
2013-02-20 03:13:28 PM

velvet_fog: frepnog: FriarReb98: I don't care how technically good of a movie Citizen Kane is, the undeniable fact is that there's a reason it's a hallmark of boring movies. Because it was painfully boring. We get it, Randolph Hearst was a douche of biblical proportions. Didn't take me 3 hours to tell you so.

Citizen Kane is a pretentious turd shat from a pretentious anus. It is practically unwatchable no matter what wiz-bang camera bullcrap it has.

1/10.


no troll.  real people can not watch that movie.  it is like watching paint dry.  there is no entertainment to be found.
 
2013-02-20 03:23:30 PM

frepnog: no troll. real people can not watch that movie. it is like watching paint dry. there is no entertainment to be found.


I know, right? Where are the car chases, explosions, and chicks in bikinis? This turd is supposed to be the greatest film ever. WHATEVS, GRANDPA!!!
 
2013-02-20 03:28:47 PM
I really like Ghostbusters.

That is all.
 
2013-02-20 03:47:30 PM

Gleeman: In other news, some people still take the Oscars seriously.

The Oscars are the Hollywood version of this debacle:
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Regardless of how you "take" them, the Oscars are very serious business in Hollywood representing many millions of dollars in revenue. A big win (or wins) can lift an art house film to mainstream success or turn a modest hit into a major one. On the other side of the coin, the publicity generated from Oscar buzz introduces some real quality films to a much wider audience than they would otherwise receive. I'm a film nerd myself and spent a lot of time at the local independent cinema, so I've seen the effect that multiple nominations can have, moving a film that I saw in a tiny theater six months ago to a slot at two different cineplexes in town. That doesn't mean that films I think should win always (or even often) do, but I think the Oscars and a few other prominent awards have a net positive effect on the quality of films that make it in front of the eyeballs of a pretty big swath of the American film-going audience.
 
2013-02-20 03:49:38 PM

Sinbox: FriarReb98: 3 hours

Which cut of the movie are you viewing? Can you allow me to view it too? My copy only runs 119 minutes.


There's a subplot cut out of the theatrical release where Kane manages donkey shows in Havana.
 
2013-02-20 03:50:48 PM
Honestly, you'd have a harder time finding Oscars that got it right. Almost everything they award is garbage.
 
2013-02-20 04:05:43 PM

Dan the Schman: Wait wait wait wait.

NOBODY has mentioned Dances with Wolves winning over Goodfellas? One of the most infamous Academy blunders in history?

Shame on all of you.


You are correct sir.

Shame, shame.
 
2013-02-20 04:21:12 PM
No, Black Hawk Down should not have won for cinematography. It's the same oversaturated palette used in every Bruckheimer movie for the last ten years.

Here are the obvious mistakes:

Mira Sorvino for Mighty Aphrodite
Shakespeare in Love
Forrest Gump
 
2013-02-20 04:29:13 PM
Someone needs to dig up Marvin Hamlisch and make him forkover his "The Entertainer" Oscar and give it to Paul and Linda McCartney for "Live and Let Die".

There.  I said it:  Linda deserved an Academy Award.
 
2013-02-20 04:30:03 PM
Shakespeare in Love is a better movie than Saving Private Ryan.  Aside from the beach battle and the final battle, there's an awful lot of nothing happening in SPR.  Plus the acting in SiL was much better than SPR.
 
2013-02-20 04:36:47 PM
"Storybook Love"; by Knofler and Deville should have beaten "Time of My Life".
 
2013-02-20 04:43:57 PM

Christian Bale: Total pop throwaways


What Best Song nominees aren't? I nominate "You Could Be Mine", Guns n Roses, Terminator 2.
 
2013-02-20 04:53:30 PM
 
2013-02-20 04:55:39 PM
Scorsese was screwed over many times.  He lost Best Director for Raging Bull to Robert Redford and his whiny, WASPy, self-indulgent piece of crap, Ordinary People.
 
2013-02-20 05:00:42 PM

Sandy Duncan's eyeball: Scorsese was screwed over many times.  He lost Best Director for Raging Bull to Robert Redford and his whiny, WASPy, self-indulgent piece of crap, Ordinary People.


He lost Best Picture to Dances with Wolves, a complete ripoff of Return of a Man Called Wolf.

The steady cam shot through the kitchen to the nightclub in Goodfellas alone should have won it Best Picture.

/I heard it took 3 days to light for that shot
//obscure?
 
2013-02-20 05:09:11 PM

Galvatron Zero: So many issues with Brokeback Mountain. It keeps being lauded for being this great step for cinema in its portrayal of gay lead characters yet it does such an injustice to the GLBT community -- portraying the characters as manipulative liars with commitment issues and ending, unsurprisingly, in tragedy. Bravo.


Not to mention that there was absolutely no chemistry between Jake Gyllenhall and Heath Ledger.  When a starcrossed lovers story ends in tragedy, the viewer should be moved, if the movie was done well.  I was all like, meh.
 
2013-02-20 05:11:21 PM

Christian Bale: What won: "I Just Called to Say I Love You"
What should have: "Footloose" or "Ghostbusters"

Are. You. Farking. Kidding me.


Hate. passion.  thousand suns.  etc.
 
2013-02-20 05:45:28 PM

frepnog: velvet_fog: frepnog: FriarReb98: I don't care how technically good of a movie Citizen Kane is, the undeniable fact is that there's a reason it's a hallmark of boring movies. Because it was painfully boring. We get it, Randolph Hearst was a douche of biblical proportions. Didn't take me 3 hours to tell you so.

Citizen Kane is a pretentious turd shat from a pretentious anus. It is practically unwatchable no matter what wiz-bang camera bullcrap it has.

1/10.

no troll.  real people can not watch that movie.  it is like watching paint dry.  there is no entertainment to be found.


Citizen Kane was an achievement for it's time period and a historic event in movie history, but by more modern standards it's just an average film.

Sybarite: That doesn't mean that films I think should win always (or even often) do, but I think the Oscars and a few other prominent awards have a net positive effect on the quality of films that make it in front of the eyeballs of a pretty big swath of the American film-going audience.


Not trying to say the Oscars are all bad, the wife and I make lists of what we would like to watch from the nominees. The point I was snarking at (and poorly I guess) is that 99% of the time the film with the most popularity (or ran the best publicity campaign) with the academy will win, not usually the best film overall.

Hence the comparison to the BCS.
 
2013-02-20 06:29:21 PM
rocky_howard:

Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where, uh, Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums.Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion". In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight" and the aforementioned "Against All Odds". But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio", a great, great song, a personal favorite.

So I hope you are being earnest, but even if you aren't I am.  I'm not a huge fan of Phil Collins but my estimation of him went up significantly after hearing him on This American Life.  The segment was about Against All Odds specifically and it was pretty sad at points.  It gave me a second listen and a new appreciation for the song that was overplayed for me when I was young.

Anyway, I was never a big Collins or Genesis fan but I was a big Peter Gabriel fan.  You know, because those are the only real options.:)
 
2013-02-20 06:44:43 PM
Biggest theft 1995

Best Picture

Apollo 13
Braveheart    (Won)
Babe
Sense and Sensibility
Il Postino


Film                            Director

Braveheart
              Mel Gibson    (Won)
Babe                          Chris Noonan
Dead Man Walking    Tim Robbins
Leaving Las Vegas    Mike Figgis
Il Postino                    Michael Radford

Ron Howard was robbed - probably because the Academy still considered him "Opie"
 
2013-02-20 06:59:59 PM
The Assassination of Jesse James should have won for cinematography and score.
 
2013-02-20 07:00:53 PM

Sandy Duncan's eyeball: Scorsese was screwed over many times.  He lost Best Director for Raging Bull to Robert Redford and his whiny, WASPy, self-indulgent piece of crap, Ordinary People.


I can't agree there. It's a very underrated movie. No, not splashy, but a chilling performance by Mary Tyler Moore made that movie creepier than I thought it would be.
 
2013-02-20 07:13:07 PM

chapman: The Golden Compass didn't have a sequel because the studio screwed up. The domestic box office was weak, so they sold the international rights. It did great business internationally. At that point, the studio said "fark it" and gave up on trying to turn it into a franchise. Too bad, it was a pretty entertaining film. I could even tell what was happening in the fight scenes. Unlike a certain movie involving robots.


The series (His Dark Materials) being known as "atheism for kids" because it's explicitly anti-religion probably didn't help them want to push it very hard.  Maybe the studios realised they hadn't thought their clever plan through.  Movies of the second and third books could not have excluded those elements without destroying the story,

You think Harry Potter caused issues?  Nothing compared to the shiatstorm that would have been caused by a character in a children's movie saying the Christian church was oppressive and manipulative and destroyed anything good.
 
2013-02-20 07:19:30 PM

Spanky McStupid: Biggest theft 1995

Best Picture

Apollo 13
Braveheart    (Won)
Babe
Sense and Sensibility
Il Postino


Film                            Director

Braveheart               Mel Gibson    (Won)
Babe                          Chris Noonan
Dead Man Walking    Tim Robbins
Leaving Las Vegas    Mike Figgis
Il Postino                    Michael Radford

Ron Howard was robbed - probably because the Academy still considered him "Opie"


No, it wasn't Ron Howard, it was Tom Hanks. He'd won two years prior for Philadelphia, and the year before for Forrest Gump. They just couldn't give yet another Oscar to a Tom Hanks film. At the time I was pretty happy about it because I loved Braveheart, but that film hasn't aged well. Apollo 13 is still awesome, though. (Fun Fact: it was the first movie I saw with the DVD commentary, which was Jim Lovell and his wife. It was fascinating!)
 
2013-02-20 07:25:56 PM

Mike Chewbacca: I loved Braveheart, but that film hasn't aged well


That is a horrible movie.  I enjoy watching it, but it's horrible.  The editing is terrible, especially the fight scenes.  The last big battle that Gibson is in, he's charging the English and he has his sword out, then back in his scabbard, then he has an axe in his hand that he got from god knows where, then the sword again, then the sword is back in the scabbard.  All these scenes within like ten seconds.  No clue how that got past the editing room.
 
2013-02-20 07:25:59 PM
I always thought The Sting beating The Exorcist for best picture at the '74 awards was a travesty.
 
2013-02-20 07:29:20 PM

GavinTheAlmighty: Shakespeare in Love is a better movie than Saving Private Ryan.  Aside from the beach battle and the final battle, there's an awful lot of nothing happening in SPR.  Plus the acting in SiL was much better than SPR.


Oh you did not just shiat on one of America's favourite war movies.  Naughty naughty.

It's an EXCELLENT MOVIE because it's about WAR.  A historical romance with all this yucky feelings and frilly costumes could never, ever, ever be better than a war epic about duty and honour and brotherly love and America being awesome.  Take your propaganda like a good little patriot
 
2013-02-20 08:47:14 PM
Supporting Actor in 72 was a big snub. Pacino, Caan, and Duvall were all nominated for the Godfather, and they lost to Joel Grey in Cabaret, an actor and a movie hardly anyone remembers.

The all time snubbie champion, though, is Scorsese, losing Oscars to John Avildson, Robert Redford, and Kevin freaking Costner.
 
2013-02-20 08:47:36 PM

Sinbox: @ the 1977 awards ceremony.

Rocky took "Best" picture over Taxi Driver, Network, All The President's Men and Bound for Glory.

Complete and total horsepucky, says I.


EXACTLY!
 
2013-02-20 08:52:32 PM
Biggest travesty is Al Pacino not winning an Oscar until '93 for Scent of a Women, and he didn't even deserve that one over Denzel for Malcolm X.
 
2013-02-20 09:31:55 PM
1982.

Ben Kingsley over Paul Newman for Best Actor.

Don't believe me? Watch Newman's face when he's photographing the invalid. He goes from 'whatever' to 'holy he11, this girl will never be normal again--and I'm the only one who can help her'. In that one scene, as he goes from detached drunk to regaining his humanity,  he so badly outclasses Kingsley they're not even on the same planet.

When they gave it to him for "Color of Money" it was clear they were trying to make it up to him for all the years of top performances he'd given and they'd ignored.

Kingsley, meanwhile, stars in Uwe Bolls' latest masterpiece.
 
2013-02-20 09:36:10 PM

pjlawrence81: Biggest travesty is Al Pacino not winning an Oscar until '93 for Scent of a Women, and he didn't even deserve that one over Denzel for Malcolm X.


You could say the same thing about Paul Newman. Won on his 6th try, 24 years after his first nomination. At least Al's wait was only 20 years.
 
2013-02-20 09:58:43 PM

Khazar-Khum: 1982.

Ben Kingsley over Paul Newman for Best Actor.

Don't believe me? Watch Newman's face when he's photographing the invalid. He goes from 'whatever' to 'holy he11, this girl will never be normal again--and I'm the only one who can help her'. In that one scene, as he goes from detached drunk to regaining his humanity,  he so badly outclasses Kingsley they're not even on the same planet.

When they gave it to him for "Color of Money" it was clear they were trying to make it up to him for all the years of top performances he'd given and they'd ignored.

Kingsley, meanwhile, stars in Uwe Bolls' latest masterpiece.


The Academy is very good about giving "Lifetime Achievement Awards" as Best Actor/Actress just as long as you manage to make a passable movie late in your career. And fark the folks who were better. They can just make another movie 20 years later.

John Cazalle, best actor without even a nomination
 
2013-02-20 10:03:39 PM

brap: I would have to give it to Oliver! for Jack Wild alone.

Anything that was a stepping stone towards H.R. Puffinstuff can't win enough awards IMHO.


If you've not done so already, and if you're not familiar with Pogo, check out the HRP song he made. I think it's called "Living Island" but don't recall (and I'm on my phone right now). It's incredibly cool.

Pogo's versions of Alice in Wonderland, Sword in the Stone, Fresh Prince, and Up are also pretty great, IMO. And his Mary Poppins might make you shiat yourself with joy.

Go to YouTube and search for Pogo with any of the above titles. You'll be glad you did.

Sorry for the threadjack but I just think his stuff is phenomenal.
 
2013-02-20 10:51:09 PM
Amelie is the greatest non-alcoholic panty remover in all history.

/just saying
 
2013-02-20 11:22:18 PM

Crewmannumber6: Oscar nominations:
John Goodman - 0
John Torturro - 0
Steve Buscemi - 0


:0 this is NOT right!
 
2013-02-20 11:46:14 PM

picodenico: No mention of Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan???


THIS!!!!
 
2013-02-21 08:01:36 AM

if_i_really_have_to: Oh you did not just shiat on one of America's favourite war movies.  Naughty naughty.

It's an EXCELLENT MOVIE because it's about WAR.  A historical romance with all this yucky feelings and frilly costumes could never, ever, ever be better than a war epic about duty and honour and brotherly love and America being awesome.  Take your propaganda like a good little patriot


Errr... Saving Private Ryan was actually a great movie.  Yes, I know that Oscars tend to pass up the comedies over dramas, but I can't see this being a bad decision.
 
2013-02-21 08:05:24 AM

stoli n coke: Supporting Actor in 72 was a big snub. Pacino, Caan, and Duvall were all nominated for the Godfather, and they lost to Joel Grey in Cabaret, an actor and a movie hardly anyone remembers.

The all time snubbie champion, though, is Scorsese, losing Oscars to John Avildson, Robert Redford, and Kevin freaking Costner.


Wrong.  The measure of the award is not memorability of the overall work, it is meant to be merit based.  While all the performances in Godfather were excellent, Grey's performance was as well.
 
2013-02-21 08:20:05 AM

Khazar-Khum: 1982.

Ben Kingsley over Paul Newman for Best Actor.

Don't believe me? Watch Newman's face when he's photographing the invalid. He goes from 'whatever' to 'holy he11, this girl will never be normal again--and I'm the only one who can help her'. In that one scene, as he goes from detached drunk to regaining his humanity,  he so badly outclasses Kingsley they're not even on the same planet.

When they gave it to him for "Color of Money" it was clear they were trying to make it up to him for all the years of top performances he'd given and they'd ignored.

Kingsley, meanwhile, stars in Uwe Bolls' latest masterpiece.


I always did like "The Verdict," one of my fave Newman flicks.
But ease up on Ben Kingsley. It may not be worthy of a lifetime pass for any bad films, but I think Kingsley's work in "Sexy Beast" allows for a lot of forgiveness.
 
2013-02-21 08:39:50 AM

Free Radical: They forgot Gladiator, American Beauty and Forrest Gump.

Oh and Golden Compass crushed Transformers in the VFX department so replace it with Titanic beating Staship Troopers.


Oh my jesus, I did not know Titanic beat Starship Troopers in that category. That is a travesty. The Oscars is an ugly planet, a bug planet.
 
2013-02-21 08:39:52 AM

Fano: John Cazalle, best actor without even a nomination


Every movie he was in was nominated for Best Picture (he only made 5). Coincidence?

The Godfather
The Godfather Part2
The Conversation
Dog Day Afternoon
The Deerhunter
 
2013-02-21 09:08:02 AM

Crewmannumber6: Fano: John Cazalle, best actor without even a nomination

Every movie he was in was nominated for Best Picture (he only made 5). Coincidence?

The Godfather
The Godfather Part2
The Conversation
Dog Day Afternoon
The Deerhunter


6, if you count the flashbacks used in Godfather III.
 
2013-02-21 01:44:03 PM
picodenico: No mention of Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan???

They didn't even pick the best film featuring Queen Elizabeth, which was Elizabeth.

Oh and another one for the list: Gwyneth Paltrow winning best actress, when Gwyneth Paltrow has slightly less range than John Wayne.
 
2013-02-21 03:42:40 PM
Hitchcock.  How many times did he get passed over?
 
2013-02-21 06:44:24 PM

varmitydog: Thanks, elvisaintdead.

No way Kubrick's "2001: A Space Odyssey" was better directed than "Oliver". If one hadn't read the book, one didn't know what the hell was going on in "Space Odyssey". And to call "Oliver" "the weakest contender of the bunch" over "The Battle of Algiers", "The Lion in Winter" and Zeffirelli's "Romeo and Juliet" is asinine. Sorry Mr. Movie Snob, they got this one right. Oliver was a great little film, for a family movie musical it was a near perfect adaptation of Dicken's classic.


www.inlovewithtuscany.com

I'd like to give her an award...
 
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