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2013-02-20 07:49:38 AM  
 
2013-02-20 07:52:17 AM  
He had a fun acceptance speech.  (didn't click yet)
 
2013-02-20 07:53:26 AM  
1. Say what you will about Golden Compass, at least I could tell what was going on at any given moment. The fight scenes in Transformers were an unwatchable mess.

8. Even if you didn't care for Fellowship, you can't deny the beauty of the cinematography, and the Academy will always favor big, sweeping camera work over smaller more intimate camera work no matter how good the latter may be.

9. Citizen Kane just pissed off the wrong man.

10. 2001 was a victim of the fact that even science fiction literature hadn't fully shed its pulp image in the public consciousness, so Kubrick even being nominated was quite a coup.
 
2013-02-20 07:58:59 AM  

Sybarite: 1. Say what you will about Golden Compass, at least I could tell what was going on at any given moment. The fight scenes in Transformers were an unwatchable mess


I still am trying to figure out what happened in those movies
 
2013-02-20 07:59:04 AM  
They forgot Gladiator, American Beauty and Forrest Gump.

Oh and Golden Compass crushed Transformers in the VFX department so replace it with Titanic beating Staship Troopers.
 
2013-02-20 08:02:32 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: Sybarite: 1. Say what you will about Golden Compass, at least I could tell what was going on at any given moment. The fight scenes in Transformers were an unwatchable mess

I still am trying to figure out what happened in those movies


Millions of Americans paid $12 a ticket to watch Micheal Bay jerk-off into wads of $20 dollar bills.
 
2013-02-20 08:03:11 AM  
No mention of Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan???
 
2013-02-20 08:03:46 AM  
5 Best original song in '85.
What won: "I Just Called to Say I Love You"
What should have: "Footloose" or "Ghostbusters"

Disagree.  Against All Odds by Phil Collins is a song that still holds up.
 
2013-02-20 08:08:10 AM  
Best Cinematography - Amelie for sure.
 
2013-02-20 08:12:52 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: I still am trying to figure out what happened in those movies


I suggest getting some help from the guys at Rifftrax.
 
2013-02-20 08:14:00 AM  
Um, The Full Monty did not come out in 1988.

Check yer typos, article writer.
 
2013-02-20 08:16:17 AM  

doczoidberg: Um, The Full Monty did not come out in 1988.

Check yer typos, article writer.


The  70th Academy Awards didn't take place in 1988 either so at least they are consistent.
 
2013-02-20 08:17:32 AM  
I can rewatch Gandhi anytime because Ben Kingsley was mesmerising. Like George C. Scott as Patton, Kingsley WAS Gandhi.
 
2013-02-20 08:21:04 AM  
List fails without Marisa Tomei.
 
2013-02-20 08:21:10 AM  
this movie should have won the award for best makeup in 1993:
trouperproductions.com

but it wasn't even nominated.  you know what won best makeup that year?  mrs. doubtfire.  now don't get me wrong, mrs. doubtfire did have some nice makeup i guess, but how can you even compare it to the ridiculous makeup effects in this movie?  freaked was totally robbed.
 
2013-02-20 08:21:39 AM  

JasonOfOrillia: 5 Best original song in '85.
What won: "I Just Called to Say I Love You"
What should have: "Footloose" or "Ghostbusters"

Disagree.  Against All Odds by Phil Collins is a song that still holds up.


Care to discuss this while comparing each other's business cards?
 
2013-02-20 08:21:51 AM  
Year: 1969
Nominees: Stanley Kubrick ("2001: A Space Odyssey"), Gillo Pontecorvo ("The Battle of Algiers"), Anthony Harvey ("The Lion in Winter"), Carol Reed ("Oliver!"), Franco Zeffirelli ("Romeo and Juliet")
Who won: Carol Reed
Who should have: Stanley Kubrick


Actually, it's Pontecorvo who should have won for The Battle of Algiers.
 
2013-02-20 08:23:29 AM  
Any year that Alan Rickman was never nominated for an Oscar.
 
2013-02-20 08:30:28 AM  
List fails without Forrest Gump winning over Pulp Fiction and Shawshank Redemption.
 
2013-02-20 08:32:04 AM  
Thanks, elvisaintdead.

No way Kubrick's "2001: A Space Odyssey" was better directed than "Oliver". If one hadn't read the book, one didn't know what the hell was going on in "Space Odyssey". And to call "Oliver" "the weakest contender of the bunch" over "The Battle of Algiers", "The Lion in Winter" and Zeffirelli's "Romeo and Juliet" is asinine. Sorry Mr. Movie Snob, they got this one right. Oliver was a great little film, for a family movie musical it was a near perfect adaptation of Dicken's classic.
 
2013-02-20 08:38:26 AM  

JasonOfOrillia: 5 Best original song in '85.
What won: "I Just Called to Say I Love You"
What should have: "Footloose" or "Ghostbusters"

Disagree.  Against All Odds by Phil Collins is a song that still holds up.


Plus if they gave it to Ghostbusters it should have gone to Huey Lewis.
 
2013-02-20 08:38:31 AM  
thornhill : Actually, it's Pontecorvo who should have won for "The Battle of Algiers".


I have never seen "The Battle of Algiers" but now I will be looking for it.
 
2013-02-20 08:41:12 AM  

varmitydog: Thanks, elvisaintdead.

No way Kubrick's "2001: A Space Odyssey" was better directed than "Oliver". If one hadn't read the book, one didn't know what the hell was going on in "Space Odyssey". And to call "Oliver" "the weakest contender of the bunch" over "The Battle of Algiers", "The Lion in Winter" and Zeffirelli's "Romeo and Juliet" is asinine. Sorry Mr. Movie Snob, they got this one right. Oliver was a great little film, for a family movie musical it was a near perfect adaptation of Dicken's classic.


The Lion in Winter is an absolutely incredible movie.
 
2013-02-20 08:43:20 AM  
List fails without upload.wikimedia.org


Brokeback Mountain crushed this POS everywhere but with the Academy.
 
2013-02-20 08:43:55 AM  

johnnyboog: Best Cinematography - Amelie for sure.

There's basically nothing about that movie that isn't beautiful.
 
2013-02-20 08:47:12 AM  
This one should also probably have been included:  i.huffpost.com
 
2013-02-20 08:48:48 AM  
List loses all credibility in its' first slide. Transformers? Really? That movie was a mess, and actually made my kids angry. They wanted to see the Transformers fight, what they got was cluttered close-ups of CG metal. The effects were awful in that they made the movie even less watchable than the plot and the actors. Who were terrible, too.

Ebert's review of the second on is fun to read:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090623/R EV IEWS/906239997
 
2013-02-20 08:57:38 AM  
No mention of that movie that Harvey Weinstein hornswaggled the Academy into voting for because he launched a blitzkrieg marketing campaign perfectly timed right when everybody stopped talking about the other top Oscar contenders but there was still a couple of weeks left during voting?
 
2013-02-20 08:59:32 AM  
Slumdog Millionaire absent.
 
2013-02-20 09:02:38 AM  

picodenico: No mention of Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan???


THIS
 
2013-02-20 09:07:17 AM  

JasonOfOrillia: 5 Best original song in '85.
What won: "I Just Called to Say I Love You"
What should have: "Footloose" or "Ghostbusters"

Disagree.  Against All Odds by Phil Collins is a song that still holds up.


varmitydog: Thanks, elvisaintdead.

No way Kubrick's "2001: A Space Odyssey" was better directed than "Oliver". If one hadn't read the book, one didn't know what the hell was going on in "Space Odyssey". And to call "Oliver" "the weakest contender of the bunch" over "The Battle of Algiers", "The Lion in Winter" and Zeffirelli's "Romeo and Juliet" is asinine. Sorry Mr. Movie Snob, they got this one right. Oliver was a great little film, for a family movie musical it was a near perfect adaptation of Dicken's classic.


I saw 2001 when it was released when I was 5 years old & I knew what was going on.
It's not that complicated

/I am significantly stupider nowadays
 
2013-02-20 09:07:53 AM  

Sybarite: 8. Even if you didn't care for Fellowship, you can't deny the beauty of the cinematography, and the Academy will always favor big, sweeping camera work over smaller more intimate camera work no matter how good the latter may be.


That's a ridiculous list for that year, though; any of those five winning would have been just fine.
 
2013-02-20 09:22:35 AM  

picodenico: No mention of Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan???


This right here. Plus many other of the Mirimax jammed-down-our-throat wins.
 
2013-02-20 09:24:36 AM  

JasonOfOrillia: 5 Best original song in '85.
What won: "I Just Called to Say I Love You"
What should have: "Footloose" or "Ghostbusters"

Disagree.  Against All Odds by Phil Collins is a song that still holds up.


Not to mention, Ray Parker, Jr. was sued by Huey Lewis over Ghostbusters.  It was settled out of court but generally agreed that Parker ripped off "I Want a New Drug".
 
2013-02-20 09:26:30 AM  
Oscar nominations:
John Goodman - 0
John Torturro - 0
Steve Buscemi - 0
 
2013-02-20 09:27:31 AM  
Am I the only person who had absolutly no trouble picking out what was going on in transformers? Or do to many people not have proper attention spans?

Seriously at no point when I watched it in theatres did I not know what was going on in the film.
 
2013-02-20 09:30:06 AM  

varmitydog: Thanks, elvisaintdead.

No way Kubrick's "2001: A Space Odyssey" was better directed than "Oliver". If one hadn't read the book, one didn't know what the hell was going on in "Space Odyssey". And to call "Oliver" "the weakest contender of the bunch" over "The Battle of Algiers", "The Lion in Winter" and Zeffirelli's "Romeo and Juliet" is asinine. Sorry Mr. Movie Snob, they got this one right. Oliver was a great little film, for a family movie musical it was a near perfect adaptation of Dicken's classic.


I don't mind Space Odyssey losing to Oliver for best direction. Directing large swaths of people  to dance in-sync is much harder than telling a single actor to "stare at the camera for 10 minutes" while intercutting trippy lamp effects. Plus the Hollywood mantra of "kids are hard to direct in movies"...Remember that Hollywood awards prizes not only based on the finished product, but also based on an insider's knowledge of how hard it was to make that product.

I can see an argument of best picture (in hindsight, of course), but not really with the director award.
 
2013-02-20 09:31:25 AM  

sjmcc13: Am I the only person who had absolutly no trouble picking out what was going on in transformers? Or do to many people not have proper attention spans?

Seriously at no point when I watched it in theatres did I not know what was going on in the film.


I thought it was overly simple if anything.  If you ask me, the fight scenes are about the only thing they did right.
 
2013-02-20 09:34:01 AM  
I would have to give it to Oliver! for Jack Wild alone.

Anything that was a stepping stone towards H.R. Puffinstuff can't win enough awards IMHO.
 
2013-02-20 09:34:30 AM  
No Annie Hall over STAR FARKING WARS?
 
2013-02-20 09:34:50 AM  

sjmcc13: Am I the only person who had absolutly no trouble picking out what was going on in transformers? Or do to many people not have proper attention spans?

Seriously at no point when I watched it in theatres did I not know what was going on in the film.


Now we know Michael Bay's Fark handle.

The first two were horrible when Autobots and Decepticons were fighting: just blurs of metal and mayhem with no idea of what was going on.

Things got better in the 3rd film when Bay calmed the fark down. I think the 3D forced him to take a chill pill.
 
2013-02-20 09:36:18 AM  

enderthexenocide: this movie should have won the award for best makeup in 1993:


but it wasn't even nominated.  you know what won best makeup that year?  mrs. doubtfire.  now don't get me wrong, mrs. doubtfire did have some nice makeup i guess, but how can you even compare it to the ridiculous makeup effects in this movie?  freaked was totally robbed.


Mrs Doubtfire wasn't directed by Bill S Preston esq.

/yes, that is how the Academy thinks
//fully believes Ben Affleck was snubbed because they could't get past his Gigli/Bennifer/Daredevil era
 
2013-02-20 09:36:23 AM  
Titanic over LA confidential

Shakeapeare in Love over anything
 
2013-02-20 09:36:23 AM  
My Fair Lady beat Dr. Strangelove for best picture. But by all means, let's whine about Transformers getting screwed.
 
2013-02-20 09:39:37 AM  

JasonOfOrillia: 5 Best original song in '85.
What won: "I Just Called to Say I Love You"
What should have: "Footloose" or "Ghostbusters"

Disagree.  Against All Odds by Phil Collins is a song that still holds up.



Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where, uh, Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums.Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion". In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight" and the aforementioned "Against All Odds". But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio", a great, great song, a personal favorite.
 
2013-02-20 09:40:19 AM  
gunga galunga:
//fully believes Ben Affleck was snubbed because they could't get past his Gigli/Bennifer/Daredevil era

You forgot Pearl Harbor in that list.

But I think he has to pay a 10 year penalty for that; so he's still "in jail".
 
2013-02-20 09:44:53 AM  
I stopped taking the article seriously when it said ET or Tootsie should have won over Gandhi.


/that's should HAVE, not should OF, people
 
2013-02-20 09:45:35 AM  

mjohnson71: picodenico: No mention of Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan???

This right here. Plus many other of the Mirimax jammed-down-our-throat wins.


Why the Stoppard hate?

Shakespeare in Love is one of the greatest scripts ever written. And one of the finest casts ever assembled.  It's so godamm good you can completely ignore  the female lead (like nearly the entire ensembles does)  and it kicks even more ass. I am probably biased because its also the most realistic depiction of producing a new play ever put on film but its still a great movie.


WhoIsWillo:

The Lion in Winter is an absolutely incredible movie.

it's a great cast more than a great movie. But that's kind of nitpicking.
 
2013-02-20 09:50:31 AM  
I am just here to mention that I enjoyed the picture chosen from Lady in Red
 
2013-02-20 09:54:33 AM  
No mention of Forrest Gump over Pulp Fiction?

/hated that farking movie
//Forrest Gump that is
 
2013-02-20 09:55:44 AM  

T.M.S.: it's a great cast more than a great movie. But that's kind of nitpicking.


I still don't understand how Peter O'Toole didn't win Best Actor for that movie.
 
2013-02-20 10:01:12 AM  

Sybarite: the Academy will always favor big, sweeping camera work over smaller more intimate camera work no matter how good the latter may be.


And thus they chose Out of Africa as 1985's best picture.  And its competition was The Color Purple.
 
2013-02-20 10:08:31 AM  
Year: 1999
Nominees: Roberto Benigni ("Life is Beautiful"), Tom Hanks ("Saving Private Ryan"), Ian McKellen ("Gods and Monsters"), Nick Nolte ("Affliction"), Edward Norton ("American History X")
Who won: Roberto Benigni
Who should have: Ian McKellen or Nick Nolte Edward Norton
 
2013-02-20 10:17:21 AM  

gunga galunga: No mention of that movie that Harvey Weinstein hornswaggled the Academy into voting for because he launched a blitzkrieg marketing campaign perfectly timed right when everybody stopped talking about the other top Oscar contenders but there was still a couple of weeks left during voting?


Philadelphia?
 
2013-02-20 10:24:59 AM  
The troll becomes visible right around the time "Tootsie" is mentioned as being a clearly better candidate for best picture over "Gandhi".
photo.xemphimonlines.com

"Gandhi baked is good."
 
2013-02-20 10:26:58 AM  
Shakespeare in Love beating Saving Private Ryan is one thing, but AMERICAN HISTORY X didn't even get a nomination for Best Picture in 1999.

Elizabeth, The Thing Red Line and Life is Beautiful were the other nods. Ridiculous snub if you ask me.
 
2013-02-20 10:29:23 AM  

GoodyearPimp: List fails without Forrest Gump winning over Pulp Fiction and Shawshank Redemption.


I disagree. While I personally prefer Pulp and Shawshank over Gump, any one of those movies could have taken Best Picture. They are all fantastic films. The kind of movies that once they are on, you can't stop watching...
 
2013-02-20 10:31:11 AM  

rocky_howard: JasonOfOrillia: 5 Best original song in '85.
What won: "I Just Called to Say I Love You"
What should have: "Footloose" or "Ghostbusters"

Disagree.  Against All Odds by Phil Collins is a song that still holds up.


Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where, uh, Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums.Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion". In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight" and the aforementioned "Against All Odds". But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio", a great, great song, a personal favorite.



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2013-02-20 10:31:58 AM  
It's not that I couldn't follow the plot of Transformers, is was the action sequences I couldn't follow.  It was just a blur of machines fighting, and they weren't distinguishable enough to tell who was doing what to whom.  The Transformers looked awesome when they were just walking around and talking, but when fighting, I had no idea who was the good or bad guy.  Except when they did that slow down the film at the moment of impact thing, which is way overused.  It got worse as the movies progressed in the series too, if it's not Optimus or Bumblebee fighting, I have no idea who is who.  Maybe they should color coordinate them better?
 
2013-02-20 10:34:03 AM  

homarjr: GoodyearPimp: List fails without Forrest Gump winning over Pulp Fiction and Shawshank Redemption.

I disagree. While I personally prefer Pulp and Shawshank over Gump, any one of those movies could have taken Best Picture. They are all fantastic films. The kind of movies that once they are on, you can't stop watching...


Forrest Gump is a terrible, annoying attempt at emotional manipulation movie.

/also Raiders of the Lost Ark > Chariots of Fire
 
2013-02-20 10:36:09 AM  
Clearly a stretch: "Best Cinematography - 74th Academy Awards" Once you're nitpicking "Best Cinematography" from a decade ago you've officially got nothing left to live for.

Listen, there is nothing wrong with Andrew Lesnie's work on "The Fellowship of the Ring."
Then why did you write about it?

It was more than deserving of a nomination.  However, is it more remarkable than Deakins ASC winning "Man Who Wasn't There"?
They're at about parity. Clearly a victor was decided in 2002.

Or Idziak's trend setting work in "Black Hawk"?
Yes, I'm very glad all modern combat films from "Jarhead" to "The Hurt Locker" look like a brighter, less washed out "Saving Private Ryan" beach scene.
 
2013-02-20 10:44:42 AM  
And it's brought up in most Oscar threads, but Bill Simmons' suggestion that Oscar voting should take place on a five year delay is brilliant.  Would really save the Academy some embarrassment.  Assuming they get embarrassed over their insane picks, which I doubt
 
2013-02-20 10:49:08 AM  

Mugato: homarjr: GoodyearPimp: List fails without Forrest Gump winning over Pulp Fiction and Shawshank Redemption.

I disagree. While I personally prefer Pulp and Shawshank over Gump, any one of those movies could have taken Best Picture. They are all fantastic films. The kind of movies that once they are on, you can't stop watching...

Forrest Gump is a terrible, annoying attempt at emotional manipulation movie.

/also Raiders of the Lost Ark > Chariots of Fire


Name a movie that doesn't attempt to manipulate you emotionally?
 
2013-02-20 11:05:10 AM  
"Of course, the robots were an absolute Marvel created by ILM. Weeks later, even New Line executives were still shocked that "Compass" (which never made enough at the box office worldwide to justify a sequel) took the honor. "

The Golden Compass didn't have a sequel because the studio screwed up.  The domestic box office was weak, so they sold the international rights.  It did great business internationally.  At that point, the studio said "fark it" and gave up on trying to turn it into a franchise.  Too bad, it was a pretty entertaining film.  I could even tell what was happening in the fight scenes.  Unlike a certain movie involving robots.
 
2013-02-20 11:06:38 AM  
I, for one, am shocked that not one Brian Troma movie has won an Academy Award.

/No "Class of Nukem High"?
//SHOCKED, I tell you.
 
2013-02-20 11:11:42 AM  

rcantley: My Fair

Lady beat Dr. Strangelove for best picture. But by all means, let's whine about

Dr. Strangelove is excellent, but so is My Fair Lady. They're different, to be sure, but both were aboslutely worthy of winning Best Picture.

My biggest snub: Rainbow Connection not winning Best Original Song. It's one of the best songs ever written, and was completey deserving of an Oscar. ACADEMY! Y U NO LIKE MUPPETS?
 
2013-02-20 11:18:48 AM  
Clueless list. The writer seems to have no idea how certain things get Oscars and how they get them. It's all about juice. Just like any industry awards show.

If the Ghostbusters song had won, would Huey Lewis got to have accepted the trophy?
 
2013-02-20 11:23:43 AM  
List fails without Celine Dion over Elliott Smith, 1997.
 
2013-02-20 11:47:43 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: JasonOfOrillia: 5 Best original song in '85.
What won: "I Just Called to Say I Love You"
What should have: "Footloose" or "Ghostbusters"

Disagree.  Against All Odds by Phil Collins is a song that still holds up.

Plus if they gave it to Ghostbusters it should have gone to Huey Lewis.


Came here to say this ^^^^^^^^
 
2013-02-20 11:57:24 AM  

Lee451: I, for one, am shocked that not one Brian Troma movie has won an Academy Award.


Wait, Troma is named after a person? I always just assumed it was a misspelling of "trauma" for reasons unknown.

/the more you know!
 
2013-02-20 11:58:47 AM  
I'm still pissed at Eddie Murphy's "Nutty Professor" beating "Star Trek: First Contact" for best makeup. How the hell could this:

24.media.tumblr.com

Be more impressive than this:

movies.trekcore.com

That's not just a Borg. That's a KLINGON Borg!
 
2013-02-20 11:59:21 AM  
Year: 1988

Nominees: Anne Dudley ("The Full Monty"), Stephen Flaherty, Lynn Ahrens and David Newman ("Anastasia"), Hans Zimmer ("As Good As It Gets"), Danny Elfman ("Men in Black"), James Newton Howard ("My Best Friend's Wedding")

Who won: Anne Dudley ("The Full Monty")

Who should have: Danny Elfman ("Men in Black") or James Newton Howard ("My Best Friend's Wedding")

Why: Dudley, better known as a member of Art of Noise, won thanks to a groundswell of support for the indie sensation "Monty" which was the most blatant "comedy" out of the five nominees. Truthfully, Elfman's "MIB" theme is still recognized to this day and Howard's "Wedding" theme was one of his most heartbreaking.  Either was more worthy than the "Monty" score (can you remember it without going to YouTube?).  The fact "MIB" was seen as an action film and "Wedding" a romantic comedy didn't help in a year when members wanted to reward "Monty" somewhere and "Titanic" was dominating every other category.

- Gregory Ellwood


What?  Really?  1988?  Try a decade later boys.  1998 is more like it.
 
2013-02-20 12:13:59 PM  
I thought Benigni was great.  Charisma and energy goes a long way.
 
2013-02-20 12:14:21 PM  

Fano: gunga galunga: No mention of that movie that Harvey Weinstein hornswaggled the Academy into voting for because he launched a blitzkrieg marketing campaign perfectly timed right when everybody stopped talking about the other top Oscar contenders but there was still a couple of weeks left during voting?

Philadelphia?


Was that Weinstein? I thought Harvey's horse in the race for that year (1993) was The Piano. Which like so many other Weinstein films got the big campaign going into overdrive at the last moment. But there was absolutely no beating Schindler's List that year. Harvey got his revenge against Spielberg five years later with the Shakespeare in Love vs Saving Private Ryan thing.

And on a completely unrelated note, did you see that newly released 30 minute feature on the Weinstein-produced Silver Linings Playbook  hosted by Dr. Oz where he declares it one of the most compelling films he's ever seen?

http://www.indiewire.com/article/harvey-weinstein-contracts-oscar-br ai n-fever-has-dr-oz-appear-in-30-minute-silver-linings-promo
 
2013-02-20 12:17:40 PM  
 After "Crash" winning the Oscars lost all relevancy to me.
 /also, "LA Confidential" losing to "Titanic".
 
2013-02-20 12:24:05 PM  

squealie: After "Crash" winning the Oscars lost all relevancy to me.
 /also, "LA Confidential" losing to "Titanic".


Pretty much how I felt about the Grammy's when Christina Aguilera beat Susan Tedeschi for Best New Artist
 
2013-02-20 12:28:08 PM  

gunga galunga: Fano: gunga galunga: No mention of that movie that Harvey Weinstein hornswaggled the Academy into voting for because he launched a blitzkrieg marketing campaign perfectly timed right when everybody stopped talking about the other top Oscar contenders but there was still a couple of weeks left during voting?

Philadelphia?

Was that Weinstein? I thought Harvey's horse in the race for that year (1993) was The Piano. Which like so many other Weinstein films got the big campaign going into overdrive at the last moment. But there was absolutely no beating Schindler's List that year. Harvey got his revenge against Spielberg five years later with the Shakespeare in Love vs Saving Private Ryan thing.

And on a completely unrelated note, did you see that newly released 30 minute feature on the Weinstein-produced Silver Linings Playbook  hosted by Dr. Oz where he declares it one of the most compelling films he's ever seen?

http://www.indiewire.com/article/harvey-weinstein-contracts-oscar-br ai n-fever-has-dr-oz-appear-in-30-minute-silver-linings-promo


You've got to be joking. I enjoyed the movie OK, but this praise for playbook has to stop. It's a by the numbers romcom with a gimmick.
 
2013-02-20 12:39:52 PM  

highbrow45: Year: 1999
Nominees: Roberto Benigni ("Life is Beautiful"), Tom Hanks ("Saving Private Ryan"), Ian McKellen ("Gods and Monsters"), Nick Nolte ("Affliction"), Edward Norton ("American History X")
Who won: Roberto Benigni
Who should have: Ian McKellen or Nick Nolte Edward Norton


Totally.

Whatever happened to that guy?

/I know what happened to him. It's just that I was hoping for more.
 
2013-02-20 01:02:54 PM  

JasonOfOrillia: 5 Best original song in '85.
What won: "I Just Called to Say I Love You"
What should have: "Footloose" or "Ghostbusters"

Disagree.  Against All Odds by Phil Collins is a song that still holds up.


I'd go with that pick too. 'Ghostbusters' is completely disqualified because Ray Parker Jr. ripped off Huey Lewis' "I Want a New Drug".

What was cringeworthy though was Phil Collins sitting in the audience at the awards show being forced to watch somebody butchering his song instead of having him perform the song himself.
 
2013-02-20 01:06:00 PM  
In other news, some people still take the Oscars seriously.

The Oscars are the Hollywood version of this debacle:
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-20 01:12:06 PM  
2) no, either Fanny and Alexander or Blade Runner
4)nowhere close on Gaslight as an option
 
2013-02-20 01:16:44 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: I'm still pissed at Eddie Murphy's "Nutty Professor" beating "Star Trek: First Contact" for best makeup. How the hell could this:

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x300]

Be more impressive than this:

[movies.trekcore.com image 850x358]

That's not just a Borg. That's a KLINGON Borg!


Holy crap! I never noticed that. I have seen that movie over a 100 times and I never noticed that was a Klingon Borg.
 
2013-02-20 01:17:17 PM  

squealie: After "Crash" winning the Oscars lost all relevancy to me.
 /also, "LA Confidential" losing to "Titanic".


Crash was such an odd win.  It was so manipulative.  Branden Fraser's presence didn't help the film any either.

Brokeback Mountain wasn't what I would call Oscar material either.  Very good film.  More deserving than Crash... but for an Oscar?  There have been much, MUCH better films that have *lost* in years past.

So many issues with Brokeback Mountain.  It keeps being lauded for being this great step for cinema in its portrayal of gay lead characters yet it does such an injustice to the GLBT community -- portraying the characters as manipulative liars with commitment issues and ending, unsurprisingly, in tragedy.  Bravo.
 
2013-02-20 01:17:40 PM  

enderthexenocide: this movie should have won the award for best makeup in 1993:
[trouperproductions.com image 360x513]

but it wasn't even nominated.  you know what won best makeup that year?  mrs. doubtfire.  now don't get me wrong, mrs. doubtfire did have some nice makeup i guess, but how can you even compare it to the ridiculous makeup effects in this movie?  freaked was totally robbed.


Hell that should have received best picture, best actor in a leading role, and best supporting actor (for Mr. T).

/How many women does it take to screw in a light bulb?
 
2013-02-20 01:29:44 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: I'm still pissed at Eddie Murphy's "Nutty Professor" beating "Star Trek: First Contact" for best makeup. How the hell could this:

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x300]

Be more impressive than this:

[movies.trekcore.com image 850x358]

That's not just a Borg. That's a KLINGON Borg!


I could be wrong but didn't The Time Machine get nominated for best makeup and LoTR TT get passed over?
 
2013-02-20 01:37:51 PM  
What won: "I Just Called to Say I Love You"
What should have: "Footloose" or "Ghostbusters"


Are. You. Farking. Kidding me.

Terrible nominees, but "Against All Odds" is the only nominee that remotely resembles past Oscar winners. Footloose is a joke, and Ghostbusters is a call-and-response ripped off from Huey Lewis. Total pop throwaways. Either one would have made the Oscars a laughingstock, especially Footloose.
 
2013-02-20 01:56:03 PM  
I don't care how  technically good of a movie  Citizen Kane is, the undeniable fact is that there's a reason it's a hallmark of boring movies.   Because it was painfully boring.  We get it, Randolph Hearst was a douche of biblical proportions.   Didn't take me 3 hours to tell you so.
 
2013-02-20 01:57:10 PM  
Wait wait wait wait.

NOBODY has mentioned Dances with Wolves winning over Goodfellas? One of the most infamous Academy blunders in history?

Shame on all of you.
 
2013-02-20 01:59:22 PM  
@ the 1977 awards ceremony.

Rocky took "Best" picture over Taxi Driver, Network, All The President's Men and Bound for Glory.

Complete and total horsepucky, says I.
 
2013-02-20 02:02:12 PM  

FriarReb98: 3 hours


Which cut of the movie are you viewing? Can you allow me to view it too? My copy only runs 119 minutes.
 
2013-02-20 02:08:31 PM  

chapman: "Of course, the robots were an absolute Marvel created by ILM. Weeks later, even New Line executives were still shocked that "Compass" (which never made enough at the box office worldwide to justify a sequel) took the honor. "

The Golden Compass didn't have a sequel because the studio screwed up.  The domestic box office was weak, so they sold the international rights.  It did great business internationally.  At that point, the studio said "fark it" and gave up on trying to turn it into a franchise.  Too bad, it was a pretty entertaining film.  I could even tell what was happening in the fight scenes.  Unlike a certain movie involving robots.


The Golden Compass didn't have a sequel because Christian right-wing outrage.  They couldn't handle a big budget kid's movie that taught that the church is evil and they certainly couldn't keep producing films in the series until they killed god.

even tho the film actually gutted the philosophical stuff and barely even hinted that the bad guys were the church.
 
2013-02-20 02:08:38 PM  

Sinbox: @ the 1977 awards ceremony.

Rocky took "Best" picture over Taxi Driver, Network, All The President's Men and Bound for Glory.

Complete and total horsepucky, says I.


Really? In a discussion that includes Mrs. Doubtfire winning Best Makeup for a single facial piece you want to quibble over which was the "best" of 5 GREAT movies?

How do you sh*t with an ass that tight?
 
2013-02-20 02:10:10 PM  

FriarReb98: I don't care how  technically good of a movie  Citizen Kane is, the undeniable fact is that there's a reason it's a hallmark of boring movies.   Because it was painfully boring.  We get it, Randolph Hearst was a douche of biblical proportions.   Didn't take me 3 hours to tell you so.


Citizen Kane is a pretentious turd shat from a pretentious anus.  It is practically unwatchable no matter what wiz-bang camera bullcrap it has.
 
2013-02-20 02:14:55 PM  

yves0010: Bith Set Me Up: I'm still pissed at Eddie Murphy's "Nutty Professor" beating "Star Trek: First Contact" for best makeup. How the hell could this:

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x300]

Be more impressive than this:

[movies.trekcore.com image 850x358]

That's not just a Borg. That's a KLINGON Borg!

Holy crap! I never noticed that. I have seen that movie over a 100 times and I never noticed that was a Klingon Borg.


There actually quite a few throughout the film:

movies.trekcore.com

movies.trekcore.com

movies.trekcore.com
 
2013-02-20 02:16:18 PM  
Life is Beautiful was a great movie.
True, everything he has done before and since has been crap, but I don't deny him that Oscar.
 
2013-02-20 02:25:19 PM  
Dan the Schman: 

Your subjective definition of great greatly differs from my own. To me, Rocky didn't warrant inclusion alongside the others in that listing, let alone being chosen over them. Yeah, I suspect the others split the voting, but...well, it's just a stupid popularity contest anyway.

To paraphrase a tune from the early 1990s, it shouldn't bother me...but it mildly does.

And: i've had the monovirus this past week, so I wish that i could stop s*itting for. I really do.
 
2013-02-20 02:25:56 PM  
...for just one hour.
 
2013-02-20 02:26:31 PM  
...norovirus...
 
2013-02-20 02:26:40 PM  

Rocket To Russia: I stopped taking the article seriously when it said ET or Tootsie should have won over Gandhi.


/that's should HAVE, not should OF, people


This ^^
 
2013-02-20 02:32:40 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: yves0010: Bith Set Me Up: I'm still pissed at Eddie Murphy's "Nutty Professor" beating "Star Trek: First Contact" for best makeup. How the hell could this:

[24.media.tumblr.com image 500x300]

Be more impressive than this:

[movies.trekcore.com image 850x358]

That's not just a Borg. That's a KLINGON Borg!

Holy crap! I never noticed that. I have seen that movie over a 100 times and I never noticed that was a Klingon Borg.

There actually quite a few throughout the film:

[movies.trekcore.com image 850x358]

[movies.trekcore.com image 850x358]

[movies.trekcore.com image 850x358]


I never noticed the small details of the Borg.  Still one of my favorite Star Trek Movies and the best of the TNG era. Also, they are one of three fictional creatures that scare the hell out of me (Xenomorphs and Weeping Angels being the others).
 
2013-02-20 02:39:57 PM  
Fellowship should have won MORE Oscars, not fewer.

The visual effects in Golden Compass are amazing and unique. Hello, armored polar bears! Certainly much more difficult to pull off than fighting metal robots.
 
2013-02-20 02:53:14 PM  

FriarReb98: I don't care how  technically good of a movie  Citizen Kane is, the undeniable fact is that there's a reason it's a hallmark of boring movies.   Because it was painfully boring.  We get it, Randolph Hearst was a douche of biblical proportions.   Didn't take me 3 hours to tell you so.


2/10.

frepnog: FriarReb98: I don't care how  technically good of a movie  Citizen Kane is, the undeniable fact is that there's a reason it's a hallmark of boring movies.   Because it was painfully boring.  We get it, Randolph Hearst was a douche of biblical proportions.   Didn't take me 3 hours to tell you so.

Citizen Kane is a pretentious turd shat from a pretentious anus.  It is practically unwatchable no matter what wiz-bang camera bullcrap it has.


1/10.
 
2013-02-20 03:01:36 PM  

Galvatron Zero: So many issues with Brokeback Mountain.  It keeps being lauded for being this great step for cinema in its portrayal of gay lead characters yet it does such an injustice to the GLBT community -- portraying the characters as manipulative liars with commitment issues and ending, unsurprisingly, in tragedy.  Bravo.


Well, if you wanna go down that road (NTTAWWT), American Beauty was much, much worse.  Severely closeted, apparently homophobic uber-jarhead gets all shooty when he worries his secret might get out.
 
2013-02-20 03:13:28 PM  

velvet_fog: frepnog: FriarReb98: I don't care how technically good of a movie Citizen Kane is, the undeniable fact is that there's a reason it's a hallmark of boring movies. Because it was painfully boring. We get it, Randolph Hearst was a douche of biblical proportions. Didn't take me 3 hours to tell you so.

Citizen Kane is a pretentious turd shat from a pretentious anus. It is practically unwatchable no matter what wiz-bang camera bullcrap it has.

1/10.


no troll.  real people can not watch that movie.  it is like watching paint dry.  there is no entertainment to be found.
 
2013-02-20 03:23:30 PM  

frepnog: no troll. real people can not watch that movie. it is like watching paint dry. there is no entertainment to be found.


I know, right? Where are the car chases, explosions, and chicks in bikinis? This turd is supposed to be the greatest film ever. WHATEVS, GRANDPA!!!
 
2013-02-20 03:28:47 PM  
I really like Ghostbusters.

That is all.
 
2013-02-20 03:47:30 PM  

Gleeman: In other news, some people still take the Oscars seriously.

The Oscars are the Hollywood version of this debacle:
[upload.wikimedia.org image 250x215]



Regardless of how you "take" them, the Oscars are very serious business in Hollywood representing many millions of dollars in revenue. A big win (or wins) can lift an art house film to mainstream success or turn a modest hit into a major one. On the other side of the coin, the publicity generated from Oscar buzz introduces some real quality films to a much wider audience than they would otherwise receive. I'm a film nerd myself and spent a lot of time at the local independent cinema, so I've seen the effect that multiple nominations can have, moving a film that I saw in a tiny theater six months ago to a slot at two different cineplexes in town. That doesn't mean that films I think should win always (or even often) do, but I think the Oscars and a few other prominent awards have a net positive effect on the quality of films that make it in front of the eyeballs of a pretty big swath of the American film-going audience.
 
2013-02-20 03:49:38 PM  

Sinbox: FriarReb98: 3 hours

Which cut of the movie are you viewing? Can you allow me to view it too? My copy only runs 119 minutes.


There's a subplot cut out of the theatrical release where Kane manages donkey shows in Havana.
 
2013-02-20 03:50:48 PM  
Honestly, you'd have a harder time finding Oscars that got it right. Almost everything they award is garbage.
 
2013-02-20 04:05:43 PM  

Dan the Schman: Wait wait wait wait.

NOBODY has mentioned Dances with Wolves winning over Goodfellas? One of the most infamous Academy blunders in history?

Shame on all of you.


You are correct sir.

Shame, shame.
 
2013-02-20 04:21:12 PM  
No, Black Hawk Down should not have won for cinematography. It's the same oversaturated palette used in every Bruckheimer movie for the last ten years.

Here are the obvious mistakes:

Mira Sorvino for Mighty Aphrodite
Shakespeare in Love
Forrest Gump
 
2013-02-20 04:29:13 PM  
Someone needs to dig up Marvin Hamlisch and make him forkover his "The Entertainer" Oscar and give it to Paul and Linda McCartney for "Live and Let Die".

There.  I said it:  Linda deserved an Academy Award.
 
2013-02-20 04:30:03 PM  
Shakespeare in Love is a better movie than Saving Private Ryan.  Aside from the beach battle and the final battle, there's an awful lot of nothing happening in SPR.  Plus the acting in SiL was much better than SPR.
 
2013-02-20 04:36:47 PM  
"Storybook Love"; by Knofler and Deville should have beaten "Time of My Life".
 
2013-02-20 04:43:57 PM  

Christian Bale: Total pop throwaways


What Best Song nominees aren't? I nominate "You Could Be Mine", Guns n Roses, Terminator 2.
 
2013-02-20 04:53:30 PM  
 
2013-02-20 04:55:39 PM  
Scorsese was screwed over many times.  He lost Best Director for Raging Bull to Robert Redford and his whiny, WASPy, self-indulgent piece of crap, Ordinary People.
 
2013-02-20 05:00:42 PM  

Sandy Duncan's eyeball: Scorsese was screwed over many times.  He lost Best Director for Raging Bull to Robert Redford and his whiny, WASPy, self-indulgent piece of crap, Ordinary People.


He lost Best Picture to Dances with Wolves, a complete ripoff of Return of a Man Called Wolf.

The steady cam shot through the kitchen to the nightclub in Goodfellas alone should have won it Best Picture.

/I heard it took 3 days to light for that shot
//obscure?
 
2013-02-20 05:09:11 PM  

Galvatron Zero: So many issues with Brokeback Mountain. It keeps being lauded for being this great step for cinema in its portrayal of gay lead characters yet it does such an injustice to the GLBT community -- portraying the characters as manipulative liars with commitment issues and ending, unsurprisingly, in tragedy. Bravo.


Not to mention that there was absolutely no chemistry between Jake Gyllenhall and Heath Ledger.  When a starcrossed lovers story ends in tragedy, the viewer should be moved, if the movie was done well.  I was all like, meh.
 
2013-02-20 05:11:21 PM  

Christian Bale: What won: "I Just Called to Say I Love You"
What should have: "Footloose" or "Ghostbusters"

Are. You. Farking. Kidding me.


Hate. passion.  thousand suns.  etc.
 
2013-02-20 05:45:28 PM  

frepnog: velvet_fog: frepnog: FriarReb98: I don't care how technically good of a movie Citizen Kane is, the undeniable fact is that there's a reason it's a hallmark of boring movies. Because it was painfully boring. We get it, Randolph Hearst was a douche of biblical proportions. Didn't take me 3 hours to tell you so.

Citizen Kane is a pretentious turd shat from a pretentious anus. It is practically unwatchable no matter what wiz-bang camera bullcrap it has.

1/10.

no troll.  real people can not watch that movie.  it is like watching paint dry.  there is no entertainment to be found.


Citizen Kane was an achievement for it's time period and a historic event in movie history, but by more modern standards it's just an average film.

Sybarite: That doesn't mean that films I think should win always (or even often) do, but I think the Oscars and a few other prominent awards have a net positive effect on the quality of films that make it in front of the eyeballs of a pretty big swath of the American film-going audience.


Not trying to say the Oscars are all bad, the wife and I make lists of what we would like to watch from the nominees. The point I was snarking at (and poorly I guess) is that 99% of the time the film with the most popularity (or ran the best publicity campaign) with the academy will win, not usually the best film overall.

Hence the comparison to the BCS.
 
2013-02-20 06:29:21 PM  
rocky_howard:

Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where, uh, Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums.Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Take the lyrics to "Land of Confusion". In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. "In Too Deep" is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as, uh, anything I've heard in rock. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like "In the Air Tonight" and the aforementioned "Against All Odds". But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is "Sussudio", a great, great song, a personal favorite.

So I hope you are being earnest, but even if you aren't I am.  I'm not a huge fan of Phil Collins but my estimation of him went up significantly after hearing him on This American Life.  The segment was about Against All Odds specifically and it was pretty sad at points.  It gave me a second listen and a new appreciation for the song that was overplayed for me when I was young.

Anyway, I was never a big Collins or Genesis fan but I was a big Peter Gabriel fan.  You know, because those are the only real options.:)
 
2013-02-20 06:44:43 PM  
Biggest theft 1995

Best Picture

Apollo 13
Braveheart    (Won)
Babe
Sense and Sensibility
Il Postino


Film                            Director

Braveheart
              Mel Gibson    (Won)
Babe                          Chris Noonan
Dead Man Walking    Tim Robbins
Leaving Las Vegas    Mike Figgis
Il Postino                    Michael Radford

Ron Howard was robbed - probably because the Academy still considered him "Opie"
 
2013-02-20 06:59:59 PM  
The Assassination of Jesse James should have won for cinematography and score.
 
2013-02-20 07:00:53 PM  

Sandy Duncan's eyeball: Scorsese was screwed over many times.  He lost Best Director for Raging Bull to Robert Redford and his whiny, WASPy, self-indulgent piece of crap, Ordinary People.


I can't agree there. It's a very underrated movie. No, not splashy, but a chilling performance by Mary Tyler Moore made that movie creepier than I thought it would be.
 
2013-02-20 07:13:07 PM  

chapman: The Golden Compass didn't have a sequel because the studio screwed up. The domestic box office was weak, so they sold the international rights. It did great business internationally. At that point, the studio said "fark it" and gave up on trying to turn it into a franchise. Too bad, it was a pretty entertaining film. I could even tell what was happening in the fight scenes. Unlike a certain movie involving robots.


The series (His Dark Materials) being known as "atheism for kids" because it's explicitly anti-religion probably didn't help them want to push it very hard.  Maybe the studios realised they hadn't thought their clever plan through.  Movies of the second and third books could not have excluded those elements without destroying the story,

You think Harry Potter caused issues?  Nothing compared to the shiatstorm that would have been caused by a character in a children's movie saying the Christian church was oppressive and manipulative and destroyed anything good.
 
2013-02-20 07:19:30 PM  

Spanky McStupid: Biggest theft 1995

Best Picture

Apollo 13
Braveheart    (Won)
Babe
Sense and Sensibility
Il Postino


Film                            Director

Braveheart               Mel Gibson    (Won)
Babe                          Chris Noonan
Dead Man Walking    Tim Robbins
Leaving Las Vegas    Mike Figgis
Il Postino                    Michael Radford

Ron Howard was robbed - probably because the Academy still considered him "Opie"


No, it wasn't Ron Howard, it was Tom Hanks. He'd won two years prior for Philadelphia, and the year before for Forrest Gump. They just couldn't give yet another Oscar to a Tom Hanks film. At the time I was pretty happy about it because I loved Braveheart, but that film hasn't aged well. Apollo 13 is still awesome, though. (Fun Fact: it was the first movie I saw with the DVD commentary, which was Jim Lovell and his wife. It was fascinating!)
 
2013-02-20 07:25:56 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: I loved Braveheart, but that film hasn't aged well


That is a horrible movie.  I enjoy watching it, but it's horrible.  The editing is terrible, especially the fight scenes.  The last big battle that Gibson is in, he's charging the English and he has his sword out, then back in his scabbard, then he has an axe in his hand that he got from god knows where, then the sword again, then the sword is back in the scabbard.  All these scenes within like ten seconds.  No clue how that got past the editing room.
 
2013-02-20 07:25:59 PM  
I always thought The Sting beating The Exorcist for best picture at the '74 awards was a travesty.
 
2013-02-20 07:29:20 PM  

GavinTheAlmighty: Shakespeare in Love is a better movie than Saving Private Ryan.  Aside from the beach battle and the final battle, there's an awful lot of nothing happening in SPR.  Plus the acting in SiL was much better than SPR.


Oh you did not just shiat on one of America's favourite war movies.  Naughty naughty.

It's an EXCELLENT MOVIE because it's about WAR.  A historical romance with all this yucky feelings and frilly costumes could never, ever, ever be better than a war epic about duty and honour and brotherly love and America being awesome.  Take your propaganda like a good little patriot
 
2013-02-20 08:47:14 PM  
Supporting Actor in 72 was a big snub. Pacino, Caan, and Duvall were all nominated for the Godfather, and they lost to Joel Grey in Cabaret, an actor and a movie hardly anyone remembers.

The all time snubbie champion, though, is Scorsese, losing Oscars to John Avildson, Robert Redford, and Kevin freaking Costner.
 
2013-02-20 08:47:36 PM  

Sinbox: @ the 1977 awards ceremony.

Rocky took "Best" picture over Taxi Driver, Network, All The President's Men and Bound for Glory.

Complete and total horsepucky, says I.


EXACTLY!
 
2013-02-20 08:52:32 PM  
Biggest travesty is Al Pacino not winning an Oscar until '93 for Scent of a Women, and he didn't even deserve that one over Denzel for Malcolm X.
 
2013-02-20 09:31:55 PM  
1982.

Ben Kingsley over Paul Newman for Best Actor.

Don't believe me? Watch Newman's face when he's photographing the invalid. He goes from 'whatever' to 'holy he11, this girl will never be normal again--and I'm the only one who can help her'. In that one scene, as he goes from detached drunk to regaining his humanity,  he so badly outclasses Kingsley they're not even on the same planet.

When they gave it to him for "Color of Money" it was clear they were trying to make it up to him for all the years of top performances he'd given and they'd ignored.

Kingsley, meanwhile, stars in Uwe Bolls' latest masterpiece.
 
2013-02-20 09:36:10 PM  

pjlawrence81: Biggest travesty is Al Pacino not winning an Oscar until '93 for Scent of a Women, and he didn't even deserve that one over Denzel for Malcolm X.


You could say the same thing about Paul Newman. Won on his 6th try, 24 years after his first nomination. At least Al's wait was only 20 years.
 
2013-02-20 09:58:43 PM  

Khazar-Khum: 1982.

Ben Kingsley over Paul Newman for Best Actor.

Don't believe me? Watch Newman's face when he's photographing the invalid. He goes from 'whatever' to 'holy he11, this girl will never be normal again--and I'm the only one who can help her'. In that one scene, as he goes from detached drunk to regaining his humanity,  he so badly outclasses Kingsley they're not even on the same planet.

When they gave it to him for "Color of Money" it was clear they were trying to make it up to him for all the years of top performances he'd given and they'd ignored.

Kingsley, meanwhile, stars in Uwe Bolls' latest masterpiece.


The Academy is very good about giving "Lifetime Achievement Awards" as Best Actor/Actress just as long as you manage to make a passable movie late in your career. And fark the folks who were better. They can just make another movie 20 years later.

John Cazalle, best actor without even a nomination
 
2013-02-20 10:03:39 PM  

brap: I would have to give it to Oliver! for Jack Wild alone.

Anything that was a stepping stone towards H.R. Puffinstuff can't win enough awards IMHO.


If you've not done so already, and if you're not familiar with Pogo, check out the HRP song he made. I think it's called "Living Island" but don't recall (and I'm on my phone right now). It's incredibly cool.

Pogo's versions of Alice in Wonderland, Sword in the Stone, Fresh Prince, and Up are also pretty great, IMO. And his Mary Poppins might make you shiat yourself with joy.

Go to YouTube and search for Pogo with any of the above titles. You'll be glad you did.

Sorry for the threadjack but I just think his stuff is phenomenal.
 
2013-02-20 10:51:09 PM  
Amelie is the greatest non-alcoholic panty remover in all history.

/just saying
 
2013-02-20 11:22:18 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Oscar nominations:
John Goodman - 0
John Torturro - 0
Steve Buscemi - 0


:0 this is NOT right!
 
2013-02-20 11:46:14 PM  

picodenico: No mention of Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan???


THIS!!!!
 
2013-02-21 08:01:36 AM  

if_i_really_have_to: Oh you did not just shiat on one of America's favourite war movies.  Naughty naughty.

It's an EXCELLENT MOVIE because it's about WAR.  A historical romance with all this yucky feelings and frilly costumes could never, ever, ever be better than a war epic about duty and honour and brotherly love and America being awesome.  Take your propaganda like a good little patriot


Errr... Saving Private Ryan was actually a great movie.  Yes, I know that Oscars tend to pass up the comedies over dramas, but I can't see this being a bad decision.
 
2013-02-21 08:05:24 AM  

stoli n coke: Supporting Actor in 72 was a big snub. Pacino, Caan, and Duvall were all nominated for the Godfather, and they lost to Joel Grey in Cabaret, an actor and a movie hardly anyone remembers.

The all time snubbie champion, though, is Scorsese, losing Oscars to John Avildson, Robert Redford, and Kevin freaking Costner.


Wrong.  The measure of the award is not memorability of the overall work, it is meant to be merit based.  While all the performances in Godfather were excellent, Grey's performance was as well.
 
2013-02-21 08:20:05 AM  

Khazar-Khum: 1982.

Ben Kingsley over Paul Newman for Best Actor.

Don't believe me? Watch Newman's face when he's photographing the invalid. He goes from 'whatever' to 'holy he11, this girl will never be normal again--and I'm the only one who can help her'. In that one scene, as he goes from detached drunk to regaining his humanity,  he so badly outclasses Kingsley they're not even on the same planet.

When they gave it to him for "Color of Money" it was clear they were trying to make it up to him for all the years of top performances he'd given and they'd ignored.

Kingsley, meanwhile, stars in Uwe Bolls' latest masterpiece.


I always did like "The Verdict," one of my fave Newman flicks.
But ease up on Ben Kingsley. It may not be worthy of a lifetime pass for any bad films, but I think Kingsley's work in "Sexy Beast" allows for a lot of forgiveness.
 
2013-02-21 08:39:50 AM  

Free Radical: They forgot Gladiator, American Beauty and Forrest Gump.

Oh and Golden Compass crushed Transformers in the VFX department so replace it with Titanic beating Staship Troopers.


Oh my jesus, I did not know Titanic beat Starship Troopers in that category. That is a travesty. The Oscars is an ugly planet, a bug planet.
 
2013-02-21 08:39:52 AM  

Fano: John Cazalle, best actor without even a nomination


Every movie he was in was nominated for Best Picture (he only made 5). Coincidence?

The Godfather
The Godfather Part2
The Conversation
Dog Day Afternoon
The Deerhunter
 
2013-02-21 09:08:02 AM  

Crewmannumber6: Fano: John Cazalle, best actor without even a nomination

Every movie he was in was nominated for Best Picture (he only made 5). Coincidence?

The Godfather
The Godfather Part2
The Conversation
Dog Day Afternoon
The Deerhunter


6, if you count the flashbacks used in Godfather III.
 
2013-02-21 01:44:03 PM  
picodenico: No mention of Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan???

They didn't even pick the best film featuring Queen Elizabeth, which was Elizabeth.

Oh and another one for the list: Gwyneth Paltrow winning best actress, when Gwyneth Paltrow has slightly less range than John Wayne.
 
2013-02-21 03:42:40 PM  
Hitchcock.  How many times did he get passed over?
 
2013-02-21 06:44:24 PM  

varmitydog: Thanks, elvisaintdead.

No way Kubrick's "2001: A Space Odyssey" was better directed than "Oliver". If one hadn't read the book, one didn't know what the hell was going on in "Space Odyssey". And to call "Oliver" "the weakest contender of the bunch" over "The Battle of Algiers", "The Lion in Winter" and Zeffirelli's "Romeo and Juliet" is asinine. Sorry Mr. Movie Snob, they got this one right. Oliver was a great little film, for a family movie musical it was a near perfect adaptation of Dicken's classic.


www.inlovewithtuscany.com

I'd like to give her an award...
 
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