Ya, nicer seating would be great but I'd rather they work on a way to keep the crying kids and annoying assholes away from me.

And make you claustrophobic because you can't see more than five feet in any direction except across your aisle.

Not to mention the weight issue of those lengthy arms, and the safety issue of evacuating an aircraft full of suddenly-opened TVs, half of which cracked passengers on the head, and all of which are preventing an evacuation past a blocked aisle.

Listen up, and listen good. These are a nonsensical pipe dream, and they will *never* happen.

"Compared to a normal economy class, AirGo uses only an additional 16 percent  of floor space.."

But they'll make that up with selling apps and shiat?
Not happening.

Oh, and once I look past the first paragraph, the real showstopper:

"Because the seats do occupy 16 percent more floor space, the airline would have to sell 16 percent fewer seats."

*snort*

*SNORT*

BWAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

What a naive fool it was, that designed this and wrote the article.

Pincy: Ya, nicer seating would be great but I'd rather they work on a way to keep the crying kids and annoying assholes away from me.

There already is a way.
At the front of the plane.
And by front I mean $$$$$$

And they take up 16% more space. Why not just make current seats 16% more roomy?  Oh, that's right, because airlines need to pack as many people as possible into the existing space. This will never happen.

Let me know when we get this and then I'll be impressed:

bhcompy: Let me know when we get this and then I'll be impressed:

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I've actually wondered why they DON'T do that. If I could lay down my entire flight I'd be a happy camper. Much easier to sleep...

Somebody actually thinks the airlines care about passenger comfort? That's cute.

0Icky0: Pincy: Ya, nicer seating would be great but I'd rather they work on a way to keep the crying kids and annoying assholes away from me.

There already is a way.
At the front of the plane.
And by front I mean $$$$$$

Yeah, not so much.

http://boardingarea.com/blogs/mommypoints/2012/08/09/yes-virgina-a-b ab y-can-cry-in-first-class-from-london-to-houston/
http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemileatatime/2011/09/30/so-about-inf an ts-in-first-class/
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/05/travel/airlines-first-class-babies
http://crankyflier.com/2012/02/24/topic-of-the-week-upgrading-with-a -b aby/
http://www.elliott.org/the-travel-critic/children-in-first-class-3-s ug gestions-for-the-kids-%E2%80%98up-front%E2%80%99/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/2013/02/18/crying-kids- on -flights/1928239/

But hey, thanks for subsidizing my economy ticket. That's a couple less of my nickels nickeled, and my dimes dimed thanks to your naivete.

gweilo8888: Listen up, and listen good. These are a nonsensical pipe dream, and they will *never* happen.

This.

gweilo8888: But hey, thanks for subsidizing my economy ticket. That's a couple less of my nickels nickeled, and my dimes dimed thanks to your naivete.

Married to a stew, so my ticket costs the same as yours.
And babies aren't allowed in Cathay Pacific First Class.
And assholes are outside your private cubicle so you don't really see anybody unless you get up and walk around.

SnarfVader: Somebody actually thinks the airlines care about passenger comfort? That's cute.

Ah Americans.  Always the victims despite the massive consumer surplus they enjoy.  Always willing to extoll the virtues of the free market except when they're acting like whiny little girls.

They don't actually look anything at all like Borg regeneration pods. You don't sit down in a Borg regeneration pod, to begin with.

Bomb Head Mohammed: SnarfVader: Somebody actually thinks the airlines care about passenger comfort? That's cute.

Ah Americans.  Always the victims despite the massive consumer surplus they enjoy.  Always willing to extoll the virtues of the free market except when they're acting like whiny little girls.

I think they should have it so the rows face each other. One row looks to the aft of the plane, one row looks to the forward part of the plane. Bam. Twice as much leg room. Except you'll have to interlock your legs with a stranger. And you can't recline. And you'll have to look at someone right in the face the entire flight.

Bomb Head Mohammed: gweilo8888: Listen up, and listen good. These are a nonsensical pipe dream, and they will *never* happen.

This.

I second this this. The chortle released was considerable.

Possible option for a premium economy type seat, but never for cattle class. You want more space, you pay for it.

/....getting a kick...

They take up 16% more floor space. So basically they will never happen in economy seating and won't happen anywhere else without paying at least 33% more than the economy ticket price.

The real people who design your aircraft seats and interiors...

Link

Gig103: bhcompy: Let me know when we get this and then I'll be impressed:

Fly an Asian airline, like Emirates or Singapore.

Oh wait you may have meant the pods, not the attractive women.

Lufthansa is pretty good as well, as long as they don't dupe you and you actually get a United crew/plane.

In that case, god help you.

Reasonable prices are futile.

CmndrFish: as long as they don't dupe you and you actually get a United crew/plane.

In that case, god help you.

Shudder....
Here, grandma..let me help you with that cart.

Because the seats do occupy 16 percent more floor space, the airline would have to sell 16 percent fewer seats.

Having experienced firsthand how ridiculously crowded the airlines are in the corner of the world this kid is from, I'm gonna say no to his genius invention.  You lose.  Good day, sir.  You get nothing.

I have vivid memories of flying from Frankfort, Germany to NYC. via Shannon, via Goose Bay in 1962 aboard a TWA Constellation. The seats were large and plush, plus I got to see the cockpit in action. Something like that wouldn't be allowed today. My next flight experience was in 1985 aboard a Piedmont 737 from Cincinnati to Denver. I realized how much air travel had come to resemble a flying Greyhound bus in the ensuing 23 years.

the airlines are supposed to voluntarily give up 16% of revenue and hope to get it on the back end through selling stuff?
not gonna happen.
what you need is a design that takes up no additional footprint room, but still offers more space for passengers by increasing the pitch for every seat and a leg rest, and an incentive for airline to do it (beyond the mere comfort of their passengers), perhaps by being substantially lighter so they save on gas.

If this can fit in to one of them there fancy pods, I'm all for it
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That's the fantasy, subby. I think the reality will be more like this:

Foxxinnia: I think they should have it so the rows face each other. One row looks to the aft of the plane, one row looks to the forward part of the plane. Bam. Twice as much leg room. Except you'll have to interlock your legs with a stranger. And you can't recline. And you'll have to look at someone right in the face the entire flight.

Well hey, it's like this on trains so you may be on to something.

So by making the seats 16% longer and seat cushions thinner, you'd ended up with more seating space? No shiat..
Someone should give this guy a prize or something.

Pincy: Ya, nicer seating would be great but I'd rather they work on a way to keep the crying kids and annoying assholes away from me.

Best $89 you'll ever spend. And they sound fantastic.
If you're a real audiophile, you can pay about twice as much for the Hf2s, but it's not necessary.  Since I got these, I no longer mind flying.

More like...

bhcompy: Let me know when we get this and then I'll be impressed:

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I farking wish.  But the claustrophobics would never stand for it.

Z-clipped: bhcompy: Let me know when we get this and then I'll be impressed:

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I farking wish.  But the claustrophobics would never stand for it.

Luckily they just have to lay down.

Raw_fishFood: Z-clipped: bhcompy: Let me know when we get this and then I'll be impressed:

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I farking wish.  But the claustrophobics would never stand for it.

Luckily they just have to lay down.

Yeah, I didn't see what I did there until I saw what I did there.

I always wondered why they didn't install mesh seats - that would give a couple of precious inches right there

...and when the weak-bladdered granny in the window seat needs to go, again, you basically have sex while she climbs over you desperately shoving knees every which way while you writhe in pain...wonderful.  Just wonderful.

/neat looking seat, but only if they come with a built in toilet

They use 16% more space? I'd pay 16 or 20% more. But when I see that business is over 400% more than cattle class, then no way would they only charge 16% more.

0Icky0: Pincy: Ya, nicer seating would be great but I'd rather they work on a way to keep the crying kids and annoying assholes away from me.

There already is a way.
At the front of the plane.
And by front I mean $$$$$$

I've seen parents bring their screaming infant into a first class BA flight, JFK to LHR (1 ticket probably around $10,000). So not even that is a sure thing.

Matthew Keene: I have vivid memories of flying from Frankfort, Germany to NYC. via Shannon, via Goose Bay in 1962 aboard a TWA Constellation. The seats were large and plush, plus I got to see the cockpit in action. Something like that wouldn't be allowed today. My next flight experience was in 1985 aboard a Piedmont 737 from Cincinnati to Denver. I realized how much air travel had come to resemble a flying Greyhound bus in the ensuing 23 years.

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Heh, old fart here, as well.  Never got to fly a Connie, though.

First flight I recall was a puddle jumper into Bangor, ME, and I was practically IN the cockpit.  No door, no nothing.

Giant t-storms over the field, open mic, you can hear the heavies opting to circle and wait.

Not our boy...his turn comes, it's "roger"...and we dive straight in between two gigantic black iron cloud columns crackling with lightning, and make a perfect crosswind landing in the rain.

That's why I got my pilot's license.

0Icky0: "Compared to a normal economy class, AirGo uses only an additional 16 percent  of floor space.."

But they'll make that up with selling apps and shiat?
Not happening.

Unfortunately, I agree.  We'll be stuck with 70's low-bid seat tech for awhile yet.

King Keepo: I always wondered why they didn't install mesh seats - that would give a couple of precious inches right there

Yeah, but at least those few inches give you a little buffer from the kid kicking the back of your seat.

Old enough to know better: More like...

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Came for this...

/Wedge em in like stacked cord wood.
/Get a fat stewardess to jam the door closed.

King Keepo: I always wondered why they didn't install mesh seats - that would give a couple of precious inches right there

Go for a ride on a C-130 Hercules or another Air Force plane with similar seating. You will understand very quickly.

Did anyone else looking at that design notice that it would be impossible to stow or store the tray once the person in front of you have reclined? The tray arms would have to go through the head of space of the reclining person.

Wow. Now I can have a cramped seat and something hanging in front of my face, awesome.