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(NPR)   Almost anything can be purchased online, except a new car from an Internet-only dealership. Turns out sleazeball dickwad car dealership owners are in bed with sleazeball dickwad politicians, thus ensuring you're screwed forever   (npr.org) divider line 7
    More: Obvious, internet, National Automobile Dealers Association, AutoNation, state sales tax  
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2013-02-20 02:17:44 AM
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AverageAmericanGuy: Amazon killed Borders. Now people without the Internet can't buy books.

So, yeah, it sounds great and it's really convenient to buy stuff online and have it delivered. But once you leave your little technologically enhanced sphere, there are plenty of disadvantaged people out there that rely on bricks and mortar stores to supply their needs. If you kill off the local dealership, you're taking that choice away from them and hurting us all.


This reminds me, I need to open an Internet store that sells bricks and mortar.
2013-02-20 12:37:15 PM
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nolanomad: If you could screw over a dealer, you would, wouldn't you?


I have to confess I am guilty of this.  Last time I was buying a car, I added in some extra deductions to the price at the last minute.  I also kept calling my manager to approve prices changes.  Then, after we negotiated the price, options and extras, I stole the floor mats out his personal vehicle.  Happens all the time.

nolanomad: I need to speak up on this "middle man" nonsense. Show of hands, how many of you butcher your own meat, distill and bottle your own booze, build your own furniture, etc. Sure a few... but most of us expect to be able to go somewhere and purchase things that have been prepared, assembled, bottled, and deal with a "middle man"- a grocer, a shoe salesman, a waiter at a restaurant, what have you.


The middle man is going away for many industries if you have not noticed.  Authors and musicians don't need huge publishing houses to pimp their work anymore.  Ebook and MP3 have these middle men flipping the fark out.  Apple is going gangbusters selling directly to consumers in their themed and knowledgeable stores.  Southwest does not hurt itself by refusing to participate in putting their flights in online sites like Expedia and such and this is not unnoticed by other airlines.

The butcher and the grocer provide a valuable skill that I don't due to experience and/or equipment.  Exactly what skill is the dealership providing that I can't provide for myself?   While everyone talks about how they are out there, I've met very few knowledgeable and helpful sales folks that can talk intelligently about their products compared to the competition.  Mostly they can talk about the features, but often I know more than the sales guy I am with.  This fails to impress upon me on how their service is as valuable as a butcher.  Most seem to only know what inventory their manager wants them to get out the door for that week.  Again, how is this a service to me?

In your case a distiller is more like a manufacturer and the distributors would be more akin to a dealership.  Aside from age laws around booze, I see no reason why one could not purchase directly from the distiller.

And a shoe salesman.. really?  Yes finding the shoe in my size in the stockroom back is a extremely valuable skill that I can't live without.

I'll admit I may be wrong.  New car sales folks may provide a valuable service to the consumers of the USA.  I have just never personally experienced this valuable service.
2013-02-20 11:36:34 AM
1 votes:

Yellow Beard: Lol, what do I know?


Better get your sarcasm sensor checked by the service dept.. ;)
2013-02-20 11:04:05 AM
1 votes:

Yellow Beard: To the poster that doesn't believe dealers work on 1% margins when selling new cars, I can assure you that is true. The profit center of any dealership is the service department.


I call bullshiat on that..

EVERYBODY knows you people make a fortune selling upgrades, like floor mats, undercoating, and this stuff:

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2013-02-20 10:21:57 AM
1 votes:
The last time I bought a car (used, in 2008), I did that whole thing of "this is what it's worth, this is what I'm offering, only call me if/when you are ready to sell to me at that price, cash" and walked away. It worked. But then I had to go pick it up and suffer through the showroom sit-and-wait while they fark around and try to sneak in extras. My strategy? I started singing with the Muzak. I can't sing worth a fark. I got louder and louder, the longer they made me wait. At one point, I asked an older salesman to join me on the dance floor. They could not WAIT to get me out of their showroom, pronto.

Fark with me, I'll fark back.
2013-02-20 02:47:00 AM
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Great Janitor: The reason why is for the car salesman.  If the lot wasn't forced to be closed at least one day a week, then most of the salesmen would be working open to close seven days a week.


That's why all the restaurants, clothes stores and shops near my house close one day a week.
2013-02-20 02:44:02 AM
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AverageAmericanGuy: Amazon killed Borders. Now people without the Internet can't buy books.

So, yeah, it sounds great and it's really convenient to buy stuff online and have it delivered. But once you leave your little technologically enhanced sphere, there are plenty of disadvantaged people out there that rely on bricks and mortar stores to supply their needs. If you kill off the local dealership, you're taking that choice away from them and hurting us all.


That is the shiattiest false dichotomy that's ever existed, and I've been on the internet for quite a bit now.
 
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