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(NPR)   Give me one good reason why we shouldn't level this building? Strategy input...for science?   (npr.org) divider line 92
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2013-02-19 06:16:24 PM  
Give me one good reason why the computers running our power grid are so unprotected.
 
2013-02-19 06:16:59 PM  
Great idea! Maybe we can get involved in some Asian proxy wars, too.
 
2013-02-19 06:17:07 PM  
Money
 
2013-02-19 06:18:36 PM  
We owe them too much money, they rely on us to buy cheap shiat, and we spy on them too.
 
2013-02-19 06:19:14 PM  
Well, I can think of a few. For starters we don't need to be starting any new expensive foreign adventures, seeing as how we still have troops on the ground in a few other countries. To elaborate a little more on the Rev's comment, blowing up a building on foreign soil will be an escalation and I'd just as soon not be in a shooting war with a superpower economic partner which happens to have a huge standing army and nuclear missiles. And finally, we know where they are now and can milk this for all it's worth, including lots of high level biatching while we figure out how they do what they are doing.

4. Profit?!?!?!
 
2013-02-19 06:20:00 PM  

Rev.K: China's response won't be....pretty.


What are they going to do? Honestly?
 
2013-02-19 06:20:42 PM  
They own something like a trillion dollars in US Debt, and therefore have significant means to hurt our economy just with that.

When dealing with major powers, a shooting war is like step W.  You really wanna do A through V before you light up that step.
 
2013-02-19 06:21:18 PM  

soosh: Give me one good reason why the computers running our power grid are so unprotected.


Money.  It would cost more than the companies are willing to pay to fix it.  The systems were designed in a totally different age.  I mean, look at how quickly an unpatched XP box gets pw3nd.  These systems are significantly older and have never received updates for security.

It would require a complete overhaul of the power grid, and frankly, it would get farked up with enterpriseyness and cloud storage or something.  The reason the power grid in NA is resistant to hacking is because it's a patchwork pile of crap that nobody can figure out.
 
2013-02-19 06:21:29 PM  

mitchcumstein1: Rev.K: China's response won't be....pretty.

What are they going to do? Honestly?


Pee Pee The Coke.
all of it.
 
2013-02-19 06:21:57 PM  
No real reason to now. I imagine enough misinformation was pumped thru there before they told us about the place to keep China busy a while.
 
2013-02-19 06:23:58 PM  
Nuclear Winter comes to mind!
 
2013-02-19 06:24:29 PM  

Sticky Hands: mitchcumstein1: Rev.K: China's response won't be....pretty.

What are they going to do? Honestly?

Pee Pee The Coke.
all of it.


Those sons of biatches!
 
2013-02-19 06:25:36 PM  
www.techtus.com
Because if we send a few engineers and get one to sneak through their defenses, we can start hacking the money for ourselves!
 
2013-02-19 06:25:55 PM  

BrotherJew: They own something like a trillion dollars in US Debt, and therefore have significant means to hurt our economy just with that.

When dealing with major powers, a shooting war is like step W.  You really wanna do A through V before you light up that step.


Can you people start looking stuff up?  Seriously.

China owns 7% of the US debt, and that's it.  They own 30% of the foreign debt.  Almost all the money the US owes is to itself in the form of various bonds and trusts.  China's not in charge of the US debt.  The US is.
 
2013-02-19 06:26:33 PM  

Sticky Hands: mitchcumstein1: Rev.K: China's response won't be....pretty.

What are they going to do? Honestly?

Pee Pee The Coke.
all of it.


Then war it is.

Rev.K: Actually, I have an inkling they will send a laser guided dildo straight into the butthole of an unsuspecting TFer.


Now, that's not pretty.
 
2013-02-19 06:26:47 PM  
Unless you can make the Nu-cle-ar weapon look like it came from Best Korea.
 
2013-02-19 06:27:21 PM  

theMagni: BrotherJew: They own something like a trillion dollars in US Debt, and therefore have significant means to hurt our economy just with that.

When dealing with major powers, a shooting war is like step W.  You really wanna do A through V before you light up that step.

Can you people start looking stuff up?  Seriously.

China owns 7% of the US debt, and that's it.  They own 30% of the foreign debt.  Almost all the money the US owes is to itself in the form of various bonds and trusts.  China's not in charge of the US debt.  The US is.


I think Goldman Sachs owns more T-Bills than China... We should bomb them
 
2013-02-19 06:29:00 PM  
Avoiding World War 3?
 
2013-02-19 06:29:15 PM  
The building is probably already level, while there is plenty of shady construction occurring in China the governmental buildings are usually pretty solid.
 
2013-02-19 06:30:48 PM  
Because our countermeasure are routed through it?
 
2013-02-19 06:31:20 PM  

theMagni: BrotherJew: They own something like a trillion dollars in US Debt, and therefore have significant means to hurt our economy just with that.

When dealing with major powers, a shooting war is like step W.  You really wanna do A through V before you light up that step.

Can you people start looking stuff up?  Seriously.

China owns 7% of the US debt, and that's it.  They own 30% of the foreign debt.  Almost all the money the US owes is to itself in the form of various bonds and trusts.  China's not in charge of the US debt.  The US is.


Well, excuse me for going off the cuff.  My main point was, with major powers (or anybody, really) shooting first isn't a prudent option.

/you people?
 
2013-02-19 06:33:06 PM  

BrotherJew: /you people?


Americans that watch too much Fox, why?
 
2013-02-19 06:33:14 PM  
fark China, ya'll a bunch of pussies.
 
2013-02-19 06:33:53 PM  
1) They have nuclear missiles
2) There are probably people in there that didn't do it
3) We don't exactly have a history pointing to us being good at land wars in Asia, unless it's all about islands and we end up just nuking them.  (See number 1)
 
2013-02-19 06:34:14 PM  

theMagni: BrotherJew: They own something like a trillion dollars in US Debt, and therefore have significant means to hurt our economy just with that.

When dealing with major powers, a shooting war is like step W.  You really wanna do A through V before you light up that step.

Can you people start looking stuff up?  Seriously.

China owns 7% of the US debt, and that's it.  They own 30% of the foreign debt.  Almost all the money the US owes is to itself in the form of various bonds and trusts.  China's not in charge of the US debt.  The US is.


That's about a trillion dollars. You don't think dumping that on the market would cause irreparable harm?
 
2013-02-19 06:35:55 PM  

theMagni: BrotherJew: /you people?

Americans that watch too much Fox, why?


Ah, I don't watch Fox outside of football season.  The "/you people" was smartass.  I won't do that to you anymore.
 
2013-02-19 06:39:10 PM  

BrotherJew: theMagni: BrotherJew: /you people?

Americans that watch too much Fox, why?

Ah, I don't watch Fox outside of football season.  The "/you people" was smartass.  I won't do that to you anymore.


Hrmm, so we're having problems with moneylenders?
 
2013-02-19 06:41:31 PM  

McFifenstein: 1) They have nuclear missiles


So do we, which essentially assures that they won't be used.

2) There are probably people in there that didn't do it

True, and that's probably the best argument against doing it.

3) We don't exactly have a history pointing to us being good at land wars in Asia, unless it's all about islands and we end up just nuking them. (See number 1)

The US would be insane to invade China. I don't think it would be a traditional war like that, if it even came to that.

Ceteris Paribus says: That's about a trillion dollars. You don't think dumping that on the market would cause irreparable harm?


Sure, but why would the Chinese hurt the largest economy in the world, and a huge destination for so much Chinese manufacturing so badly? They need us just as badly as we need them.
 
2013-02-19 06:42:44 PM  

Zarquon's Flat Tire: BrotherJew: theMagni: BrotherJew: /you people?

Americans that watch too much Fox, why?

Ah, I don't watch Fox outside of football season.  The "/you people" was smartass.  I won't do that to you anymore.

Hrmm, so we're having problems with moneylenders?


Well, I think you could argue everybody is.
 
2013-02-19 06:43:25 PM  

mitchcumstein1: McFifenstein: 1) They have nuclear missiles

So do we, which essentially assures that they won't be used.

2) There are probably people in there that didn't do it

True, and that's probably the best argument against doing it.

3) We don't exactly have a history pointing to us being good at land wars in Asia, unless it's all about islands and we end up just nuking them. (See number 1)

The US would be insane to invade China. I don't think it would be a traditional war like that, if it even came to that.

Ceteris Paribus says: That's about a trillion dollars. You don't think dumping that on the market would cause irreparable harm?

Sure, but why would the Chinese hurt the largest economy in the world, and a huge destination for so much Chinese manufacturing so badly? They need us just as badly as we need them.


According to the former secretary of the treasury they tried to get Russia to do it with them at the height of the 2008 financial crisis.
 
2013-02-19 06:43:41 PM  

mitchcumstein1: McFifenstein: 1) They have nuclear missiles

So do we, which essentially assures that they won't be used.

2) There are probably people in there that didn't do it

True, and that's probably the best argument against doing it.

3) We don't exactly have a history pointing to us being good at land wars in Asia, unless it's all about islands and we end up just nuking them. (See number 1)

The US would be insane to invade China. I don't think it would be a traditional war like that, if it even came to that.

Ceteris Paribus says: That's about a trillion dollars. You don't think dumping that on the market would cause irreparable harm?

Sure, but why would the Chinese hurt the largest economy in the world, and a huge destination for so much Chinese manufacturing so badly? They need us just as badly as we need them.


They said that right before WWI too.  England and Germany need each other! They'll never go to war!

/Not saying this is the case here, but don't put too much faith in close economic relationships
 
2013-02-19 06:44:05 PM  

mitchcumstein1: Sure, but why would the Chinese hurt the largest economy in the world, and a huge destination for so much Chinese manufacturing so badly? They need us just as badly as we need them.


Which pretty much underscores the "Think about it before bombing stuff" point, I think.
 
2013-02-19 06:48:59 PM  
You cant.

- That was an unlevel joke.
 
2013-02-19 06:51:54 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-19 06:54:28 PM  
Not saying it is right, or we should ignore it, but i am not really in favor of a huge war because some giant corporations decided spending on security wasnt a priority for them.

We will bring this shiat up in some back room meeting and get them to give us something later in return for forgetting about it.
 
2013-02-19 06:54:49 PM  
I think we do just as much crazy cyber shiat to the Chinese as they do to us, they just have state controlled media so they can keep it quiet.  I bet we have some crazy Stuxnet 2.0 that's slowly destroying the Chinese Wanton industry by taking out the dumpling folding machines one by one by making them fold too fast.
 
2013-02-19 06:57:11 PM  

Ceteris Paribus says: According to the former secretary of the treasury they tried to get Russia to do it with them at the height of the 2008 financial crisis.


It was Russia who told China to dump Freddie and Fannie, if I remember.

Doktor_Zhivago: They said that right before WWI too. England and Germany need each other! They'll never go to war!

/Not saying this is the case here, but don't put too much faith in close economic relationships


Oh, I'm not saying China wouldn't go to war, I'm saying they wouldn't dump all that onto the market.

BrotherJew: Which pretty much underscores the "Think about it before bombing stuff" point, I think.


Well, no shiat.
 
2013-02-19 06:58:04 PM  

BrotherJew: Zarquon's Flat Tire: BrotherJew: theMagni: BrotherJew: /you people?

Americans that watch too much Fox, why?

Ah, I don't watch Fox outside of football season.  The "/you people" was smartass.  I won't do that to you anymore.

Hrmm, so we're having problems with moneylenders?

Well, I think you could argue everybody is.


Hey I only owe money to the IRS.
 
2013-02-19 06:59:06 PM  

mitchcumstein1: Ceteris Paribus says: According to the former secretary of the treasury they tried to get Russia to do it with them at the height of the 2008 financial crisis.

It was Russia who told China to dump Freddie and Fannie, if I remember.

Doktor_Zhivago: They said that right before WWI too. England and Germany need each other! They'll never go to war!

/Not saying this is the case here, but don't put too much faith in close economic relationships

Oh, I'm not saying China wouldn't go to war, I'm saying they wouldn't dump all that onto the market.

BrotherJew: Which pretty much underscores the "Think about it before bombing stuff" point, I think.

Well, no shiat.


Ah, Mitch I think you are right.
 
2013-02-19 07:00:03 PM  

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Hey I only owe money to the IRS.


I only owe on my house, which is a loan well within my means.  I was more referring to lender practices that ended up hurting just about everybody.
 
2013-02-19 07:01:25 PM  

BrotherJew: Zarquon's Flat Tire: Hey I only owe money to the IRS.

I only owe on my house, which is a loan well within my means.  I was more referring to lender practices that ended up hurting just about everybody.


So all of them...
 
2013-02-19 07:03:30 PM  
Why won't Obama stop this?
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-19 07:09:58 PM  

BrotherJew: Zarquon's Flat Tire: Hey I only owe money to the IRS.

I only owe on my house, which is a loan well within my means.  I was more referring to lender practices that ended up hurting just about everybody.


I'm still just making jokes.  Please don't take anything I say seriously unless it's about a certain family crisis ongoing.
 
2013-02-19 07:14:32 PM  

Zarquon's Flat Tire: BrotherJew: Zarquon's Flat Tire: Hey I only owe money to the IRS.

I only owe on my house, which is a loan well within my means.  I was more referring to lender practices that ended up hurting just about everybody.

I'm still just making jokes.  Please don't take anything I say seriously unless it's about a certain family crisis ongoing.


Oh, no worries.  I'm unaware of your family crisis though...so, I'm just gonna have to throw out a general "that sucks".  Which is reeeal useful.
 
2013-02-19 07:18:37 PM  

CommieTaoist: The building is probably already level, while there is plenty of shady construction occurring in China the governmental buildings are usually pretty solid.


Nice slant on the question.
 
2013-02-19 07:21:53 PM  

doglover: CommieTaoist: The building is probably already level, while there is plenty of shady construction occurring in China the governmental buildings are usually pretty solid.

Nice slant on the question.


nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-19 07:29:08 PM  

BrotherJew: They own something like a trillion dollars in US Debt


You owe the bank a hundred dollars? Your problem.
You owe the bank a hundred million dollars? Bank's problem.

Or look at it another way.
They gave our government the ability to purchase goods and services, which are real things of value.
In return, we promised them that we would give them some slips of green paper with dead people's pictures on them, that we can create at will in the trillions.

I think we came out ahead.
 
2013-02-19 07:29:22 PM  

zulius: [www.techtus.com image 188x150]
Because if we send a few engineers and get one to sneak through their defenses, we can start hacking the money for ourselves!


I love that game.


Did you play Hitman? I lovvvvvvvvved how the Chinese gangsters always yelled 'Watch out! He's Packing!' and it sounds like 'Watch out! He's Packeen'!
 
2013-02-19 07:29:49 PM  

Actual Farking: Great idea! Maybe we can get involved in some Asian proxy wars, too.


Inconceivable.
 
2013-02-19 07:31:33 PM  
They probably hacked people besides us AND their systems can tell us where the vulnerabilities in ours are.  It'd be a damn shame to let all that juicy info go to waste.  Better to just target the facility itself with our own hacking; they're probably all running Windows anyway.
 
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