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(Big 1059)   Murder, rape, refunding an out of state 10 cent can. "What are things you can go to jail for?"   (big1059.com) divider line 6
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2013-02-19 06:25:02 PM
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Angela Madden and every other person I have met involved in the can and bottle deposit system all lie.  I have heard some doozies like "Once a glass bottle is sent through, the bottle cannot be fed through again.  The machine won't accept that particular bar code again."  The bar codes and machines are not that complex.  I called the guy on the mathematical impossibility of producing billions of containers with all unique bar codes and not occasionally messing with other products' bar codes.

Anyway, Ms. Madden is wrong, the scam is unethical but it hurts the state not the businesses.  When beverage companies bottle the beverage they send a check for the deposit to the state.  When the beverage is delivered to the store, the store reimburses the manufacturer.  When the customer buys the beverage they reimburse the store.  When the customers returns the container for reimbursement the store sends the bill to the state for reimbursement.  If a container comes up missing and is never returned, the state is who keeps the 10 cents.  The state doesn't want competition.  For the scam to work, you would have to take the containers to either a little store that just counts the containers and hand you cash or get the containers from a nickel deposit state to double your money.  Either, is a bigger pain than it is worth.
2013-02-19 07:54:18 PM
1 votes:
I don't see a problem with this, fraud is fraud.  My question would be why do they print the deposit info on cans sold in states that don't have a deposit?
2013-02-19 07:45:40 PM
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And creating a nuisance.
2013-02-19 07:45:25 PM
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I live near a liquor store where all the cashiers in there give you a hard time if you just return bottles without buying anything in return. One time the cashier even asked me if I bought my beer somewhere else. I keep hoping the Massachusetts Liquor Board comes down on them for trying to make it tough to return empties.
2013-02-19 07:11:15 PM
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-02-19 05:48:07 PM
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If passed, someone who attempts to return between 100 and 10,000 non-returnable containers could face a maximum fine of $1,000 or up to 93 days in jail. Current law sets penalties only for people that have actually returned fraudulent containers.

Where I live the law says generally that attempting to commit a crime is a crime in itself. There is no need to pass a law separately criminalizing attempt for each crime. This is how they get you for chatting up "14 year old girls" online. It's an attempt to commit a sex crime.
 
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