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(ESPN)   You think Brandon Jacobs was big for a running back? Check out this 350-lb back from the University of Hawaii   (espn.go.com) divider line 64
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2013-02-19 01:01:59 PM  
Can't tell if fast for size or if the secondary just doesn't want to touch him.
 
2013-02-19 01:03:46 PM  
We're glued to how he churns ahead with four or five tacklers clinging to him, like remora on a whale. We're astonished by his twinkle toes, like watching a hippo dance an arabesque.
 
2013-02-19 01:04:08 PM  

thecpt: Can't tell if fast for size or if the secondary just doesn't want to touch him.


I think it's both.

You know how when you see a 747-400 in the air and it looks like it's moving at about 17 knots and then it gets closer and you realize that it's actually moving REALLY fast? This dude is the human equivilent of that.
 
2013-02-19 01:04:32 PM  
Prospect. Still in High School.
 
2013-02-19 01:09:36 PM  
I think Brandon Jacobs was big for an idiot.
 
2013-02-19 01:12:26 PM  
I hope he's not related to Lennay Kekua, this sounds too good to be true.
 
2013-02-19 01:22:43 PM  
cant trust a guy who plays rugby
 
2013-02-19 01:29:08 PM  
4.9 speed?  So basically he'll be converted to TE, then converted to the line once he starts playing against people who can tackle.
 
2013-02-19 01:31:09 PM  
I would like to see him carry in college though, it would be entertaining.
 
2013-02-19 01:34:16 PM  
Good for him that he potentially has a full ride to college. If he dropped 10-15 lb he could be a really good fullback/H-Back like Walker from the 49ers
 
2013-02-19 01:37:08 PM  

eagles95: Good for him that he potentially has a full ride to college. If he dropped 10-15 lb he could be a really good fullback/H-Back like Walker from the 49ers


Yeah- he's not gonna go very far as an RB at that weight.
 
2013-02-19 01:41:39 PM  
FTA -- "David Fangupo ... the new 350-pound running back for the University of Hawaii Warriors."

And he's still growing.
 
2013-02-19 01:46:01 PM  
350lb with 4.9 speed?  What defensive lineman is going to want to step in front of something like that?

At minimum, he can make bank as a short yardage runner in the NFL.  Remember The Bus?  "If you need a yard, I'll get ya two.  If you need three yards, I'll get ya two."
 
2013-02-19 01:46:15 PM  
I wonder what his pretend girlfriend looks like.

/Probably the same as mine.
 
2013-02-19 01:51:30 PM  
He's a defensive lineman in the future.
 
2013-02-19 01:51:45 PM  

arcas: 350lb with 4.9 speed?  What defensive lineman is going to want to step in front of something like that?

At minimum, he can make bank as a short yardage runner in the NFL.  Remember The Bus?  "If you need a yard, I'll get ya two.  If you need three yards, I'll get ya two."


Yes, because NFL defensive lineman are a timid bunch and are going to shrink in the face of a large human being.  They fight with 300+ pounders all game long!  Not to mention, this 350 lb. "running back" won't have a full head of steam by the time he hits the line.  He may hit 4.9 in the 40 but it probably takes him a while to get to that speed.

He'll be a defensive lineman in two years.
 
2013-02-19 01:54:32 PM  
And, I'm sorry, but he looks slow as sh#t...along with everybody else on that field.  It looks more like a middle school game.
 
2013-02-19 01:59:44 PM  

darch: You know how when you see a 747-400 in the air and it looks like it's moving at about 17 knots and then it gets closer and you realize that it's actually moving REALLY fast? This dude is the human equivilent of that.


I heard that comparison made about Adam Dunn but it wasn't as complimentary.
 
2013-02-19 01:59:46 PM  
Was Kentucky recruiting him as a QB?
 
2013-02-19 02:01:29 PM  

you have pee hands: darch: You know how when you see a 747-400 in the air and it looks like it's moving at about 17 knots and then it gets closer and you realize that it's actually moving REALLY fast? This dude is the human equivilent of that.

I heard that comparison made about Adam Dunn but it wasn't as complimentary.


I larfed.
 
2013-02-19 02:02:22 PM  

arcas: 350lb with 4.9 speed?  What defensive lineman is going to want to step in front of something like that?

At minimum, he can make bank as a short yardage runner in the NFL.  Remember The Bus?  "If you need a yard, I'll get ya two.  If you need three yards, I'll get ya two."


If you need to win the Super Bowl, let Willie Parker, Hines Ward and Bill Leavy handle it.
 
2013-02-19 02:06:33 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: arcas: 350lb with 4.9 speed?  What defensive lineman is going to want to step in front of something like that?

At minimum, he can make bank as a short yardage runner in the NFL.  Remember The Bus?  "If you need a yard, I'll get ya two.  If you need three yards, I'll get ya two."

If you need to win the Super Bowl, let Willie Parker, Hines Ward and Bill Leavy handle it.


Dont forget making Big Ben look like a hero by allowing him to make a farking tackle in the playoffs.
 
2013-02-19 02:11:00 PM  
"Honestly, I never really got tackled," says Fangupo, whom teammates call The Horse. "I just get tired and fall down."

He has no stamina.  After about 40 yards he looks like he is going to collapse.  Also, he won't go untouched the first eight yards in college.
 
2013-02-19 02:14:07 PM  
I didn't really see him as speedy, and the "amazing" clip only featured three runs, the first two of which featured pretty much the whole defense diving away from him or making arm tackles.  Sure, he's a high school "great" now, but how many of them actually make it a) to college and b) to the NFL?
 
2013-02-19 02:18:25 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: I didn't really see him as speedy, and the "amazing" clip only featured three runs, the first two of which featured pretty much the whole defense diving away from him or making arm tackles.  Sure, he's a high school "great" now, but how many of them actually make it a) to college and b) to the NFL?


I dunno- if he trims down a bit and works on his stamina, he may be a decent prospect. Be interesting to see what, if anything, he does in a decent college program. That'll be a true test- dealing with real takles and dudes who are closer to his size.
 
2013-02-19 02:18:33 PM  
That won't work against serious D1 teams. He could be used in short yardage situations, sure. But he won't be a 10+ touches guy unless he cut some weight and developed the ability to move laterally.
 
2013-02-19 02:20:48 PM  
on the 1st and 3rd clips he stands flat footed or does a little bunny hop as the quarterback run towards him to hand the ball off. does he not have the coordination to take the handoff while moving toward the line? college will eat this up.
 
2013-02-19 02:21:36 PM  

darch: whizbangthedirtfarmer: I didn't really see him as speedy, and the "amazing" clip only featured three runs, the first two of which featured pretty much the whole defense diving away from him or making arm tackles.  Sure, he's a high school "great" now, but how many of them actually make it a) to college and b) to the NFL?

I dunno- if he trims down a bit and works on his stamina, he may be a decent prospect. Be interesting to see what, if anything, he does in a decent college program. That'll be a true test- dealing with real takles and dudes who are closer to his size.


Damn, he'll be easy to stop.  He's so big, the coaches will have to tell him not to look for holes, but just to plow into his OLinemen.  As a DT, all you'll have to do is close the gaps and force him to run to the outside.  It'll make for a long day, but his stat line will probably be something like 15 carries, 14 yards, or something like that.
 
2013-02-19 02:22:32 PM  
damn he's fast. watchout nfl
 
2013-02-19 02:23:23 PM  

starlost: on the 1st and 3rd clips he stands flat footed or does a little bunny hop as the quarterback run towards him to hand the ball off. does he not have the coordination to take the handoff while moving toward the line? college will eat this up.


it says its his first year playing.  He's going to have to lose 15, run lower, and a bunch of other things but coaches will see him as trainable.
 
2013-02-19 02:26:10 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: I didn't really see him as speedy, and the "amazing" clip only featured three runs, the first two of which featured pretty much the whole defense diving away from him or making arm tackles.  Sure, he's a high school "great" now, but how many of them actually make it a) to college and b) to the NFL?


You can't coach size. You can't train size.

He has more of a chance than many get. He needs work for sure, but he's got a base to work from that few have.

Ngata was a rugby/football player that was huge and ran a sub-5 40. The kid won't be an RB in college though, not for long.
 
2013-02-19 02:26:26 PM  
Hopefully his imaginary girlfriend supports his endeavors.

She lives in Niagra Falls. You wouldn't know her.
 
2013-02-19 02:26:42 PM  
Those knees aren't going to last 1 season.
 
2013-02-19 02:27:41 PM  

thecpt: starlost: on the 1st and 3rd clips he stands flat footed or does a little bunny hop as the quarterback run towards him to hand the ball off. does he not have the coordination to take the handoff while moving toward the line? college will eat this up.

it says its his first year playing.  He's going to have to lose 15, run lower, and a bunch of other things but coaches will see him as trainable.


Or become a nose tackle.
 
2013-02-19 02:28:01 PM  

Deneb81: whizbangthedirtfarmer: I didn't really see him as speedy, and the "amazing" clip only featured three runs, the first two of which featured pretty much the whole defense diving away from him or making arm tackles.  Sure, he's a high school "great" now, but how many of them actually make it a) to college and b) to the NFL?

You can't coach size. You can't train size.

He has more of a chance than many get. He needs work for sure, but he's got a base to work from that few have.

Ngata was a rugby/football player that was huge and ran a sub-5 40. The kid won't be an RB in college though, not for long.


No, not an RB, unless the coaches line him about ten to twelve yards away from the LOS, ala Chris Warren in the 90s.  Then, he might have a chance to build up a head of steam, but there's just no way he can succeed as a RB, and his coaches are not doing him a favor by using him as one.
 
2013-02-19 02:34:39 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Deneb81: whizbangthedirtfarmer: I didn't really see him as speedy, and the "amazing" clip only featured three runs, the first two of which featured pretty much the whole defense diving away from him or making arm tackles.  Sure, he's a high school "great" now, but how many of them actually make it a) to college and b) to the NFL?

You can't coach size. You can't train size.

He has more of a chance than many get. He needs work for sure, but he's got a base to work from that few have.

Ngata was a rugby/football player that was huge and ran a sub-5 40. The kid won't be an RB in college though, not for long.

No, not an RB, unless the coaches line him about ten to twelve yards away from the LOS, ala Chris Warren in the 90s.  Then, he might have a chance to build up a head of steam, but there's just no way he can succeed as a RB, and his coaches are not doing him a favor by using him as one.


Well, it worked in HS. He hasn't played or practiced or officially accepted at a college yet.

He is a little heavier and a little faster than Ngata at the combine though. So that's a pretty good start for a LOT of positions.
 
2013-02-19 02:37:32 PM  

Deneb81: thecpt: starlost: on the 1st and 3rd clips he stands flat footed or does a little bunny hop as the quarterback run towards him to hand the ball off. does he not have the coordination to take the handoff while moving toward the line? college will eat this up.

it says its his first year playing.  He's going to have to lose 15, run lower, and a bunch of other things but coaches will see him as trainable.

Or become a nose tackle.


3-4 defenses love his build.  Hopefully he can give Jerell Worthy and Raji competition in 3 years.
 
2013-02-19 02:42:36 PM  

thecpt: Deneb81: thecpt: starlost: on the 1st and 3rd clips he stands flat footed or does a little bunny hop as the quarterback run towards him to hand the ball off. does he not have the coordination to take the handoff while moving toward the line? college will eat this up.

it says its his first year playing.  He's going to have to lose 15, run lower, and a bunch of other things but coaches will see him as trainable.

Or become a nose tackle.

3-4 defenses love his build.  Hopefully he can give Jerell Worthy and Raji competition in 3 years.


Yeah. Ngata is my to to comparison for DEs and Wilfork for NTs as I'm a Ravens fan. He has comparable size/speed to where I'd imagine (stress on that - never a big college fan) they were at his age.

I'd probably say DE over my first suggestion of NT for a player that fast and big. But yeah, a potential to be a great 3-4 player. I hope he pans out and works out. Sounds like just getting through college would be great for him and his family though.
 
2013-02-19 02:47:02 PM  

Deneb81: Yeah. Ngata is my to to comparison for DEs and Wilfork for NTs as I'm a Ravens fan. He has comparable size/speed to where I'd imagine (stress on that - never a big college fan) they were at his age.

I'd probably say DE over my first suggestion of NT for a player that fast and big. But yeah, a potential to be a great 3-4 player. I hope he pans out and works out. Sounds like just getting through college would be great for him and his family though.


Yeah this guy is so heavy and fast he can be a hybrid NT/DE in a 3-4.  Lining up at the 3 or 4 technique (outside guard, or inside tackle), he could occupy pass blockers and absolutely blow up dives and trap plays.
 
2013-02-19 03:12:43 PM  

thecpt: Deneb81: Yeah. Ngata is my to to comparison for DEs and Wilfork for NTs as I'm a Ravens fan. He has comparable size/speed to where I'd imagine (stress on that - never a big college fan) they were at his age.

I'd probably say DE over my first suggestion of NT for a player that fast and big. But yeah, a potential to be a great 3-4 player. I hope he pans out and works out. Sounds like just getting through college would be great for him and his family though.

Yeah this guy is so heavy and fast he can be a hybrid NT/DE in a 3-4.  Lining up at the 3 or 4 technique (outside guard, or inside tackle), he could occupy pass blockers and absolutely blow up dives and trap plays.


Not without the ball in his hands, apparently.
 
2013-02-19 03:15:58 PM  

Deneb81: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Deneb81: whizbangthedirtfarmer: I didn't really see him as speedy, and the "amazing" clip only featured three runs, the first two of which featured pretty much the whole defense diving away from him or making arm tackles.  Sure, he's a high school "great" now, but how many of them actually make it a) to college and b) to the NFL?

You can't coach size. You can't train size.

He has more of a chance than many get. He needs work for sure, but he's got a base to work from that few have.

Ngata was a rugby/football player that was huge and ran a sub-5 40. The kid won't be an RB in college though, not for long.

No, not an RB, unless the coaches line him about ten to twelve yards away from the LOS, ala Chris Warren in the 90s.  Then, he might have a chance to build up a head of steam, but there's just no way he can succeed as a RB, and his coaches are not doing him a favor by using him as one.

Well, it worked in HS. He hasn't played or practiced or officially accepted at a college yet.

He is a little heavier and a little faster than Ngata at the combine though. So that's a pretty good start for a LOT of positions.


Unless his 4.9 was from a SPARQ test, it is a "high school 4.9", which is about a 5.15 when measured electronically.

/It's amazing when after 4 years of some of the best strength and speed training available in the world, a player runs a slower 40 at the combine then their reported "high school 40".
 
2013-02-19 03:18:41 PM  
looks fun, but he's getting moved to the o or d line in college.  would be fun to watch him try to run in college though.  maybe they could bring him in goalline situations.
 
2013-02-19 03:20:20 PM  
Rick Reilly lost me at "Chris Brown"
 
2013-02-19 04:08:09 PM  

kwame: 4.9 speed?  So basically he'll be converted to TE, then converted to the line once he starts playing against people who can tackle.


trapping guard, at best (assuming he doesn't get any taller)
 
2013-02-19 04:13:15 PM  
He Ate Me.
 
2013-02-19 06:39:36 PM  

blankwhiteboard: kwame: 4.9 speed?  So basically he'll be converted to TE, then converted to the line once he starts playing against people who can tackle.

trapping guard, at best (assuming he doesn't get any taller)


I think Alex Boone has shown that tall guards (as long as relatively mobile) aren't a problem.
 
2013-02-19 07:24:26 PM  
i grew up in hawaii. when i started playing rugby, we played against his high school a time or two.

fookin hell, they grow them BIG over there. our side of the scrimmage had its fair share of beefy guys, couple samoans, etc, but it was serious david/goliath type shiate. first scrum, they basically just sort of shoved us away from the ball and about ten yards down the field in seconds. i never had a chance at it, just sort of hung on so i wouldn't get pulled under and trampled.

he's beefy for his peers, too...
 
2013-02-19 08:21:24 PM  
But it worked. The team already had 5-6, 136-pound Lennox Jones at tailback -- one of the best and tiniest players in the state. Fangupo has lunches bigger than Jones.
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I'm 5-7 and weigh only a bit less than that... you telling me I could've been a running back in high school?! Why didn't someone tell me!

/I'm being facetious here.
//It's painful and awkward to even think of how he could've pulled that off.
 
2013-02-19 09:06:53 PM  
kwame * * Smartest * Funniest [ ] Smartest [ ] Funniest 2013-02-19 01:29:08 PM 4.9 speed? So basically he'll be converted to TE, then converted to the line once he starts playing against people who can tackle.
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On the one hand... would YOU want a 350lbs person slamming into you that fast?

On the other hand, nearly all positions do the 40 these days. How fast to the lineman do it in typically?
 
2013-02-19 09:15:53 PM  

tbhouston: cant trust a guy who plays rugby


I don't think you can trust a guy who doesn't. Perhaps that is unfair though, not everyone gets a chance.
I think I might rephrase it "you cant trust a guy who doesn't wish he could play rugby"

I suspect though that the big fella is making more yards in football than he would have in rugby. In rugby his opponents would have been used to tackling someone his size on the run, while in football he is playing out of position and as such against people who are not training to tackle a big man with the ball in hand.
If his team keeps playing him that way, eventually other teams will work out which of their own players to put out of position to counter his runs.
 
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