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(Fox News)   Sure, I voted for Obama 6 times. Didn't everybody? FARK: Said the Ohio poll worker   (foxnews.com) divider line 346
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2013-02-19 02:58:33 PM  

lordjupiter: Plus, how would voter ID have prevented this woman from voting absentee?  That's where the alleged fraud was committed.  She didn't impersonate anyone at the polls.  And who says voter ID's can't be faked?


Exactly. Voter ID is a bad solution, with serious (and carefully targeted) problems, to the #1 LEAST COMMON FORM OF ELECTION FRAUD.
 
2013-02-19 02:59:32 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Why Would I Read the Article: Look, I read Fark.  We all know that if there's any voter fraud going on, it's ALL being done by republicans and evil diebold machines.  Any other story doesn't fit that narrative, so please kindly remove this one from the interwebz.

Who is saying there is no voter fraud?

All we're saying is that it doesn't happen so often that it impacts an outcome of an election. Romney lost by way more than 19 in Hamilton County.

So unless you have proof that voter fraud is so rampant, it actually impacted the outcome of an election. Then I don't see the need for Voter ID.


Got it, so you want to want until an election is proven to be caused by voter fraud before you are willing to do anything about voter fraud.

How would that work?  Would you invalidate the election result at that point?  Ask for a re-do?  Say that it is too late to do anything about it, so the invalid election stands?
 
2013-02-19 02:59:56 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Onkel Buck: Douchie McBaggus: Onkel Buck: Mrtraveler01: Onkel Buck: Cagey B: Onkel Buck: I keep being told voter fraud doesnt happen. Its the voter suppression we are supposed to worry about.

Well, looks like one Fox News article detailing an alleged single instance of it has proven systematic voter fraud exists, just like it does in your retarded oppression fantasies. That sure showed reality.

LOLWUT?

So a little fraud is OK? Got it

No fraud is ok.

The point is that saying "one person committed voter fraud so Voter ID" is needed is a silly argument to make.

BTW: This is the argument that Fox News is making

You need to show ID for everything else, its just a natural progression. The idea that it disenfranchises people is BS. I bet they dont get disenfranchised showing ID to get their perscriptions or a bottle of booze. And before you start bellyaching about poll taxes, I have no problem with IDs being provided for free for people who need them. There are plenty of other freebies provided, whats one more?

That's cool.  So you don't mind your taxes being raised a little bit to pay for free IDs for everyone?  If Republicans were OK with funding the free IDs and raising the required taxes to do so, this would be a non-issue.

It seems to me in my state the dems are against it, but that may just be sour grapes. And would you need to raise taxes? Couldnt it be rolled into another freebie program like the phones? How much does it cost for a piece of plastic with a picture on it? Thats what I dont understand, groups can organize shuttle busses to the polls for people so they can vote, but they cant figure out how to get them an ID? Its a simple fix but it seems no one wants to take the lead on it

The real problem is that the state would lose out on a LOT of money if they were to give out these ID's for free in addition to mailing them.


The real problem is that Republicans want to make it tougher to vote, as reduced turnout benefits Republicans.

There's a reason that the "crackdown on voter fraud" laws ALWAYS involve showing more ID or reducing voting options and NEVER involve opening additional DMV locations or expanding hours.
 
2013-02-19 03:01:24 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Mrtraveler01: Why Would I Read the Article: Look, I read Fark.  We all know that if there's any voter fraud going on, it's ALL being done by republicans and evil diebold machines.  Any other story doesn't fit that narrative, so please kindly remove this one from the interwebz.

Who is saying there is no voter fraud?

All we're saying is that it doesn't happen so often that it impacts an outcome of an election. Romney lost by way more than 19 in Hamilton County.

So unless you have proof that voter fraud is so rampant, it actually impacted the outcome of an election. Then I don't see the need for Voter ID.

Got it, so you want to want until an election is proven to be caused by voter fraud before you are willing to do anything about voter fraud.

How would that work?  Would you invalidate the election result at that point?  Ask for a re-do?  Say that it is too late to do anything about it, so the invalid election stands?


Using precedent from Floriduh, in the case of voter fraud, the Supreme Court sets an arbitrary date, picks a winner and declares the election over.
 
2013-02-19 03:01:42 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: trotsky: I saw this making the way around the Tea Tard community. I've also seen different numbers thrown around. Smells like a CMSM load of bullshiat to me. Somebody got paid.

Keep farking that chicken.


Really? Considering I saw this story pop on the Tea Party Community, and shared 30 billion times, some had her voting twice, some six. But we all know Fox is a paragon of truthiness, right?
 
2013-02-19 03:03:10 PM  

Douchie McBaggus: That's cool.  So you don't mind your taxes being raised a little bit to pay for free IDs for everyone?  If Republicans were OK with funding the free IDs and raising the required taxes to do so, this would be a non-issue.


The $500M 0bama wasted on Solyndra could have gone a long way to getting free IDs to people who don't have one.
 
2013-02-19 03:03:20 PM  

kingoomieiii: lordjupiter: Plus, how would voter ID have prevented this woman from voting absentee?  That's where the alleged fraud was committed.  She didn't impersonate anyone at the polls.  And who says voter ID's can't be faked?

Exactly. Voter ID is a bad solution, with serious (and carefully targeted) problems, to the #1 LEAST COMMON FORM OF ELECTION FRAUD.


It's almost like selling an assault weapons ban as a way to substantially decrease gun violence...

EXCEPT...

Votes can be tossed, but people can't be brought back to life, except by Dr. Frankenstein or Jesus.
 
2013-02-19 03:03:35 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: Democrats are the masters of crooked elections and always have been. With problems this widespread, either you have to have another election, or an automatic removal from office. We just can't have illegitimate, non-democratically 'elected' pretenders in this country making policy. With only a slim 51.1% of the popular vote, and all of the usual cheating by Democrats, there is no way that Obama was legitimately elected.


Ok. You win. Romney is vice-president, Palin is President and Ted Nugent is Secretary of Defense. Your argument is pretty airtight.
 
2013-02-19 03:04:21 PM  
"Likely Obama voters" is racist?

go back to stormfront
 
2013-02-19 03:04:22 PM  
So left wing fraud is ok but right wing fraud is still bad?
 
2013-02-19 03:04:49 PM  

quatchi: Richardson claimed she had submitted an absentee ballot, but was afraid her vote would not count so she also voted in person. She also said she voted in the name of her granddaughter and yet another person.

"There was absolutely no intent on my part to commit any voter fraud," she insisted.

*facepalm*

If she actually did this and said this throw the book at her.

Twice.


Heh...this.

It's the dumbass defense, on steroids...

Never thought about it before, but there probably ARE people dumb enough to vote by absentee ballot, vote again in person, and genuinely not think they've done something wrong...
 
2013-02-19 03:05:17 PM  
kingoomieiii: Onkel Buck: The idea that it disenfranchises people is BS.

That's literally what it's designed to do. The GOP knows they can't continue to win elections unless they change the rules, whether it be by trying to dole out electoral votes by congressional districts (which would make the votes of rural republicans worth eight to 10 times as much as liberal city slickers in purple states) or throwing up billboards to try to keep black people from voting.

By the way, can someone find me that story about the state that extended its residency requirement and then moved registration to within that many days of college move-in, in an effort to prevent college kids from being able to vote without driving back to their parent's houses?


I dont see that as intimidating, I guess it all depends on your interpretation. But anything like that put up in a black neighborhood is gonna raise some hell, the culture of victimization being what it is. Too me it looks like a preventative measure. If someone sees that they should think "Well the election is coming up I should be prepared for it and get an ID so Im ready and wont have any problems." but then again people knew Katrina was coming and didn't do anything then either.
 
2013-02-19 03:05:25 PM  

kingoomieiii: Bush didn't steal Bush/Kerry, Swiftboat Veterans Against John Kerry did.

He didn't steal Bush/Gore either, actually. The supreme court did.


Yeah that's not my sign, I'm not saying Bush has the brains to do anything.
 
2013-02-19 03:06:32 PM  
If only there was some kind of billboard in Ohio that could inform voters that voter fraud is a felony.
 
2013-02-19 03:07:00 PM  
Where was Jimmy Carter ?   Why did he let this happen....
 
2013-02-19 03:07:51 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: At gun shows as well?


99.9% of the guns available for sale at gun shows are offered for sale by dealers.  Being a dealer, it doesn't matter where they're selling, all the rules have to be followed.

WinoRhino: There absolutely should be prosecution. In this case and all others.


+10.  The reason the practice is so rare is because we're so harsh on it.  Keep the disincentives up and we won't have contested elections.  A contested election due to voting fraud would be expensive, divisive, and undermine our government.
 
2013-02-19 03:08:37 PM  

trotsky: WhoopAssWayne: Democrats are the masters of crooked elections and always have been. With problems this widespread, either you have to have another election, or an automatic removal from office. We just can't have illegitimate, non-democratically 'elected' pretenders in this country making policy. With only a slim 51.1% of the popular vote, and all of the usual cheating by Democrats, there is no way that Obama was legitimately elected.

Ok. You win. Romney is vice-president, Palin is President and Ted Nugent is Secretary of Defense. Your argument is pretty airtight.


I think WA was bing sarcastic.
 
2013-02-19 03:08:49 PM  

Onkel Buck: I keep being told voter fraud doesnt happen. Its the voter suppression we are supposed to worry about.

/Showing ID would fix both but thats too hard


No, you've been told voter fraud doesn't happen in statistically significant quantities.

Try not to hurt yourself moving those goalposts.
 
2013-02-19 03:09:00 PM  
I voted early and often, just like every god damn funny guy I work with said...
 
2013-02-19 03:10:03 PM  

kombat_unit: So left wing fraud is ok but right wing fraud is still bad?


It's a good thing for you they don't have literacy tests at the polls anymore.
 
2013-02-19 03:10:04 PM  

Billygoat Gruff: I dont see that as intimidating, I guess it all depends on your interpretation. But anything like that put up in a black neighborhood is gonna raise some hell, the culture of victimization being what it is. Too me it looks like a preventative measure.


That's because you're a racist!

A bunch of those billboards went up exclusively in heavily black neighborhoods, you don't think they were targeted  How is dialing in the message by race not intimidation, or at the very least racist as all hell?
 
2013-02-19 03:11:04 PM  
So... I've just read this thread and I must be missing something here. Someone please help me with this.

She got caught. She's one of a tiny handful of individuals who committed individual voter fraud (by which I mean a person who voted extra times, not someone who rigged the entire actual election), not some vast conspiracy. Almost every single person in this thead - regardless of what "side" they're on - have said she should be prosecuted if those allegations turn out to be true (a position I agree with)...

So why are tenpoundsofcheese and other "conservative" farkers insisting that the "liberal" farkers want this swept under the rug and don't want her to be prosecuted? Are they channelling Bizzarro versions of themselves or something? Because that seems like some pretty willfully obtuse delusioneering right there...

Liberalfarkers: Sounds fishy, but it should be investigated and she should be prosecuted if these allegations are true.
Conservafarkers: OMG, why you no want her to be prosecuted?!?!? Hypocrites!!!
Me: But.. they all pretty much all just said...  /head asplode
 
2013-02-19 03:11:52 PM  

Firethorn: The reason the practice is so rare is because we're so harsh on it.


It makes me laugh every time I read about how guy committing voter fraud "to show how easy it is" and getting arrested.
 
2013-02-19 03:12:08 PM  

WhoopAssWayne: Democrats are the masters of crooked elections and always have been. With problems this widespread,


Widespread?

You failed basic math, didn't you?
 
2013-02-19 03:12:55 PM  

Tomahawk513: It's almost like selling an assault weapons ban as a way to substantially decrease gun violence...


I'm not terribly worried about disengunchisement, actually.
 
2013-02-19 03:15:22 PM  
Voter fraud, standard operating procedure for the DNC for decades.

Everyone knows it...

Voter early, vote often...especially in the ghetto where you can't report it without being called a racist, and with union members where you can't report it without disappearing.
 
2013-02-19 03:16:27 PM  

kombat_unit: So left wing fraud is ok but right wing fraud is still bad?


No fraud is OK, but existing laws caught this person, who will be prosecuted and sentenced if found guilty, which is good.  Therefore, it seems reasonable that disenfranchising voters through unneeded additional laws is not something that is good for Americans.

Or do you think that more gun laws will reduce gun crime?
 
2013-02-19 03:16:30 PM  

kingoomieiii: Billygoat Gruff: I dont see that as intimidating, I guess it all depends on your interpretation. But anything like that put up in a black neighborhood is gonna raise some hell, the culture of victimization being what it is. Too me it looks like a preventative measure.

That's because you're a racist!

A bunch of those billboards went up exclusively in heavily black neighborhoods, you don't think they were targeted  How is dialing in the message by race not intimidation, or at the very least racist as all hell?


You're offended, so you must be right.
 
2013-02-19 03:16:59 PM  

kingoomieiii: A bunch of those billboards went up exclusively in heavily black neighborhoods, you don't think they were targeted  How is dialing in the message by race not intimidation, or at the very least racist as all hell?


"the culture of victimization"

I mean when is someone going to stand up for white protestant males anyway?
 
2013-02-19 03:17:41 PM  

MilesTeg: Voter fraud, standard operating procedure for the DNC for decades.

Everyone knows it...

Voter early, vote often...especially in the ghetto where you can't report it without being called a racist, and with union members where you can't report it without disappearing.


Guess how I know you're a racist?
 
2013-02-19 03:18:17 PM  
Liberalism is a mental disorder spread by self-pity.

It's also worth noting that pluralism doesn't work.
 
2013-02-19 03:18:39 PM  

MilesTeg: Voter fraud, standard operating procedure for the DNC for decades.

Everyone knows it...

Voter early, vote often...especially in the ghetto where you can't report it without being called a racist, and with union members where you can't report it without disappearing.


encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2013-02-19 03:18:46 PM  

kingoomieiii: Tomahawk513: It's almost like selling an assault weapons ban as a way to substantially decrease gun violence...

I'm not terribly worried about disengunchisement, actually.


Me.  Either.
 
2013-02-19 03:19:53 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: People against voter id laws look kind of silly now, don't they?


Not as silly as the people who advocate a massive, useless government program that doesn't fix a serious, real-world problem.

If you'd like to debate this characterization, be sure and show your work.
 
2013-02-19 03:20:40 PM  

Billygoat Gruff: You're offended, so you must be right.


I'm really not kidding, please propose and explain a scenario where I can put threatening signs up targeting specific races or ethnic groups because I believe them to be a higher-than-normal risk for an extremely rare crime, based on no evidence, without being an absolutely unconscionable racist.

You know, like you.
 
2013-02-19 03:21:24 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Douchie McBaggus: That's cool.  So you don't mind your taxes being raised a little bit to pay for free IDs for everyone?  If Republicans were OK with funding the free IDs and raising the required taxes to do so, this would be a non-issue.

The $500M 0bama wasted on Solyndra could have gone a long way to getting free IDs to people who don't have one.



WHY WON'T SOLYNDRA BE A SCANDAL@!?!?!?!?!?!?
 
2013-02-19 03:22:26 PM  

sodomizer: Liberalism is a mental disorder spread by self-pity.

It's also worth noting that pluralism doesn't work.


Really? I'm pretty sure you meant to say Republicanism. Republicans are more self pitying than anyone else. Example: you.
 
2013-02-19 03:22:55 PM  

trey101: if it is true this is a serious problem... what happens when a Repub beats a Dem due to voter fraud?


If the election of 2000 is anything to go by, absolutely nothing.
 
2013-02-19 03:23:44 PM  
Ooooh this posted to the main page. That explains a few things.
 
2013-02-19 03:24:06 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: tenpoundsofcheese: Douchie McBaggus: That's cool.  So you don't mind your taxes being raised a little bit to pay for free IDs for everyone?  If Republicans were OK with funding the free IDs and raising the required taxes to do so, this would be a non-issue.

The $500M 0bama wasted on Solyndra could have gone a long way to getting free IDs to people who don't have one.


WHY WON'T SOLYNDRA BE A SCANDAL@!?!?!?!?!?!?


Is Solyndra his older daughter, or the younger one?
 
2013-02-19 03:24:31 PM  

sodomizer: Liberalism is a mental disorder spread by self-pity.

It's also worth noting that pluralism doesn't work.


posted by a farker that we must assume is a Republican/conservative with the handle "sodomizer"

Perfection
 
2013-02-19 03:25:41 PM  

mongbiohazard: So... I've just read this thread and I must be missing something here. Someone please help me with this.

She got caught. She's one of a tiny handful of individuals who committed individual voter fraud (by which I mean a person who voted extra times, not someone who rigged the entire actual election), not some vast conspiracy. Almost every single person in this thead - regardless of what "side" they're on - have said she should be prosecuted if those allegations turn out to be true (a position I agree with)...

So why are tenpoundsofcheese and other "conservative" farkers insisting that the "liberal" farkers want this swept under the rug and don't want her to be prosecuted? Are they channelling Bizzarro versions of themselves or something? Because that seems like some pretty willfully obtuse delusioneering right there...

Liberalfarkers: Sounds fishy, but it should be investigated and she should be prosecuted if these allegations are true.
Conservafarkers: OMG, why you no want her to be prosecuted?!?!? Hypocrites!!!
Me: But.. they all pretty much all just said...  /head asplode


I think it's because of our old friend "the echo chamber". This has been hyped up on conservative sites and stations for a bit now. Those conservatives who visit those sites and stations are primed with this mindset. So when they get here, they discharge what they've been filled with. I myself - a FARK INDEPENDENT (tm) - have experienced this in talks with a fairly conservative, rational guy who morphed into foaming about the truth of "those people" voting multiple times with impunity. And of course, he saw it on Drudge or some such.
 
2013-02-19 03:25:42 PM  

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: sodomizer: Liberalism is a mental disorder spread by self-pity.

It's also worth noting that pluralism doesn't work.

Really? I'm pretty sure you meant to say Republicanism. Republicans are more self pitying than anyone else. Example: you.


Yeah, they are the most repressed people that run everything I've ever seen.
 
2013-02-19 03:26:10 PM  

busy chillin': TFA headline asks "6 times?"

Articles states "twice"


This sh*t ain't cool, but why use derpy hyperbole? Oh yeah, clicks, ratings and outrage.


The article says she voted absentee, also voted at the polls, then submitted absentee ballots for 4 relatives.  No word on whether the relatives were aware of the fact that they voted.  At least that's what she claims to have done.
 
2013-02-19 03:27:47 PM  
To be fair,   this person may have been taught by other poll workers that this was ok.   Or that it was an 'accepted practice'.

Maybe her trainer was from Philadelphia....
 
2013-02-19 03:29:38 PM  

Onkel Buck: I keep being told voter fraud doesn't happen. Its the voter suppression we are supposed to worry about.


That's because Baraka Hussalami Superallah Fartbongo al-Chicago suppressed the Romney vote by running for President. Of course its the voter suppression we're worried about.
 
2013-02-19 03:30:21 PM  

PunGent: Not as silly as the people who advocate a massive, useless government program that doesn't fix a serious, real-world problem.


Funny how some of you claim to know the details on the levels of voter fraud in the country.
 
2013-02-19 03:30:46 PM  
Well, Obama certainly didn't win because he's a competent president. It was a combination of clowns like this and the dependency society, as usual, having nothing better to do that day.
 
2013-02-19 03:31:14 PM  
Jackson Herring:
"Likely Obama voters" is racist?

go back to stormfront


Because acknowledging the fact that Obama received 93% of the black vote in 2012 makes a person racist? You're like a bizarro world tea-tard where you distort reality in the opposite direction to stay within the confines of your political correctness.
 
2013-02-19 03:31:56 PM  

sodomizer: Liberalism is a mental disorder spread by self-pity.

It's also worth noting that pluralism doesn't work.


Well if it's a mental disorder resulting in TFA then apparently it's an incredibly rare one. I'm sure you will continue to delude yourself in to believing your charicature is common though.
 
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