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2013-02-19 11:27:46 AM
Sarah is on her way to the White House. Obama has been put to work scrubbing floors and cooking.
 
2013-02-19 12:06:41 PM
Of course she did. Look at her.
 
2013-02-19 12:37:30 PM
I'll bet this really happened and isn't a lie.
 
2013-02-19 12:44:30 PM
I voted for him four times.

2 primaries; 2 general elections.
 
2013-02-19 01:01:07 PM
a57.foxnews.com

Fox News? Ain't nobody got time for that!
 
2013-02-19 01:06:49 PM
Throw her and the others in jail. 1 year minimum no probation.
Someday, maybe we will have an honest election.
Though I won't hold my breath.
 
2013-02-19 01:08:41 PM
Richardson claimed she had submitted an absentee ballot, but was afraid her vote would not count so she also voted in person. She also said she voted in the name of her granddaughter and yet another person.

"There was absolutely no intent on my part to commit any voter fraud," she insisted.


*facepalm*

If she actually did this and said this throw the book at her.

Twice.
 
2013-02-19 01:09:05 PM
Clearly Karl Rove's election night mental collapse was due to this super-villain's nefarious scheme that I am sure will be proven to be totally true and not bullshiat!

To the Hoverounds! We ride at dawn!
 
2013-02-19 01:09:56 PM
Sorry Romney, you lost because your supporters were honest.
 
2013-02-19 01:14:47 PM
FTA:   Another voter admitted to double voting, but did not think it was an issue.


RIght because they voted 4 times LESS than the standard.  slacker.

FTA:   She appears to have used her position as a poll worker to cover her tracks.

And she did a bad job at the whole track covering part.
 
2013-02-19 01:18:55 PM
That's odd, farkers had assured me that in Ohio "experimental" software patches on vote counting machines and rethuglican chicanery would keep teh blahs from voting at all.
 
2013-02-19 01:25:12 PM
does this mean Sarah Palin has to fart on P. Omaba's tongue for 15-20 seconds?
 
2013-02-19 01:25:29 PM

kingoomieiii: I'll bet this really happened and isn't a lie.


That was the first thing I wondered. Most people don't brag to the press about voting fraud.
 
2013-02-19 01:27:37 PM

quatchi: Richardson claimed she had submitted an absentee ballot, but was afraid her vote would not count so she also voted in person. She also said she voted in the name of her granddaughter and yet another person.

"There was absolutely no intent on my part to commit any voter fraud," she insisted.

*facepalm*

If she actually did this and said this throw the book at her.

Twice.


^^^ that
 
2013-02-19 01:35:56 PM
Ok? Charge her with whatever that crime is and give her the appropriate punishment. Do we need Fox News articles for every crime?
 
2013-02-19 01:38:29 PM

DamnYankees: Ok? Charge her with whatever that crime is and give her the appropriate punishment. Do we need Fox News articles for every crime?


No this is an important story, because in the words of Free Republic she "looks like a likely Obama voter"
 
2013-02-19 01:38:32 PM
Romney is President now... Right?
 
2013-02-19 01:40:43 PM

b2theory: Romney is President now... Right?


He only lost by 10 votes; here are 6 of them.
 
2013-02-19 01:44:05 PM
Anyone braver than me want to head over to Ann Coulter's site and see if she's calling for this lady's prosecution?
 
2013-02-19 01:45:11 PM

Spad31: Of course she did. Look at her.


She looks like an average elderly black woman. Am I missing something?
 
2013-02-19 01:45:39 PM

DamnYankees: Ok? Charge her with whatever that crime is and give her the appropriate punishment. Do we need Fox News articles for every crime?


Oh look, someone all butt hurt because *gasp* the news is covering a story about a crime.

Let me guess, you only want the news to cover stories about Kim and...wait for it...newsflash...Fergie is pregnant!  Wowie.
 
2013-02-19 01:46:28 PM
Oh wow so someone actually beat me to the joke about "likely obama voters" except they were not joking. It is not fark, it is blatant racism dot com
 
2013-02-19 01:46:28 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Anyone braver than me want to head over to Ann Coulter's site and see if she's calling for this lady's prosecution?


why wouldn't you prosecute this person?
 
2013-02-19 01:49:32 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Peter von Nostrand: Anyone braver than me want to head over to Ann Coulter's site and see if she's calling for this lady's prosecution?

why wouldn't you prosecute this person?


Mostly because I'm not a lawyer
 
2013-02-19 01:51:35 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Peter von Nostrand: Anyone braver than me want to head over to Ann Coulter's site and see if she's calling for this lady's prosecution?

why wouldn't you prosecute this person?


As far as we know, this is her first offense. The Christian thing to do is forgive. Besides, she voted for the winner anyway so it doesn't really matter.
 
2013-02-19 01:56:21 PM
Is Mr. Romney now automatically President?
 
2013-02-19 01:56:57 PM
I only voted for Obama once.

/Canadian
 
2013-02-19 01:57:04 PM
To quote a magnificent bastard:

"Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most"
 
2013-02-19 01:57:09 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: tenpoundsofcheese: Peter von Nostrand: Anyone braver than me want to head over to Ann Coulter's site and see if she's calling for this lady's prosecution?

why wouldn't you prosecute this person?

As far as we know, this is her first offense. The Christian thing to do is forgive. Besides, she voted for the winner anyway so it doesn't really matter.


Actually, the first time she voted more than once was her first offense. (assuming this is the first election she did this).
The other 4 times she voted were offenses second through fifth.

so a repeat offender.
 
2013-02-19 01:57:27 PM
Richardson is one of 19 people suspected of illegal voting by the Hamilton County Board of Elections in the last election.

doesn't say if they were all obama voters or not, though.
 
2013-02-19 01:58:17 PM
I saw this making the way around the Tea Tard community. I've also seen different numbers thrown around. Smells like a CMSM load of bullshiat to me. Somebody got paid.
 
2013-02-19 01:59:58 PM
static.gamesradar.com
 
2013-02-19 02:00:59 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: thismomentinblackhistory: tenpoundsofcheese: Peter von Nostrand: Anyone braver than me want to head over to Ann Coulter's site and see if she's calling for this lady's prosecution?

why wouldn't you prosecute this person?

As far as we know, this is her first offense. The Christian thing to do is forgive. Besides, she voted for the winner anyway so it doesn't really matter.

Actually, the first time she voted more than once was her first offense. (assuming this is the first election she did this).
The other 4 times she voted were offenses second through fifth.

so a repeat offender.


count much ?

you'd better re-check those fingers, haus...
 
2013-02-19 02:01:24 PM
Bet you can't vote just once!
cache.gawker.com
 
2013-02-19 02:01:31 PM
TFA headline asks "6 times?"

Articles states "twice"


This sh*t ain't cool, but why use derpy hyperbole? Oh yeah, clicks, ratings and outrage.
 
2013-02-19 02:02:01 PM
Good god some people are stupid.
 
2013-02-19 02:02:20 PM

busy chillin': TFA headline asks "6 times?"

Articles states "twice"


This sh*t ain't cool, but why use derpy hyperbole? Oh yeah, clicks, ratings and outrage.


Pretty sure Trollmitter has outed himself in the comments already
 
2013-02-19 02:02:24 PM
I'd be damn proud to live in a country where someone would make the effort to register me and vote in my name.

Hell, someday that someone just might be me.
 
2013-02-19 02:02:29 PM
tenpoundsofcheese:
FTA:   She appears to have used her position as a poll worker to cover her tracks.

And she did a bad job at the whole track covering part.


And yet, even without a voter ID system she's being investigated. It's almost as if the current laws work.

Now, if we require you to show ID for all gun purchases - well, that's just a horrible infringement on your rights.

Right?
 
2013-02-19 02:02:56 PM

Sgt Otter: Spad31: Of course she did. Look at her.

She looks like an average elderly black woman. Am I missing something?


No. You noticed that she was black.
 
2013-02-19 02:03:23 PM
You can legally file a provisional ballot and still go vote.
Shut up FOX News clowns.
 
2013-02-19 02:03:26 PM
I wasn't aware that one extra vote was what tilted the whole election into Barry Mohammed Derka Derka Jihad Fartbongo's favor.
 
2013-02-19 02:04:04 PM

SlothB77: Richardson is one of 19 people suspected of illegal voting by the Hamilton County Board of Elections in the last election.

doesn't say if they were all obama voters or not, though.


19 votes? Well this would've sure changed the outcome of the election in Hamilton County!

Hamilton100.0% ReportingB. Obama (i)Dem51.8%208,508M. RomneyGOP46.9%188,653G. JohnsonLib0.9%3,596J. SteinGrn0.2%974R. DuncanUna0.1%397V. GoodeCST0.1%329S. AlexanderSoc0.0%11

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/ohio/
 
2013-02-19 02:04:21 PM
"I'm outraged, and every voter, regardless of their political affiliation, should be outraged,"

Twenty people are being investigated for committing crimes that appear to have had no practical impact on anything and they will, presumably, be charged and tried if sufficient evidence is found to warrant arrests.

What exactly am I being outraged about, again? That the system appears to be working as intended and some people who may have committed crimes may have gotten caught?

/ oh... right.... Fox News... everything is an outrage
 
2013-02-19 02:05:05 PM

rufus-t-firefly: tenpoundsofcheese:
FTA:   She appears to have used her position as a poll worker to cover her tracks.

And she did a bad job at the whole track covering part.

And yet, even without a voter ID system she's being investigated. It's almost as if the current laws work.

How did the current system work if she voted 6 times?

 
2013-02-19 02:05:15 PM
Is this going to be another case where Republicans just grossly misinterpreted what was said? Like how "we're not going to have problems paying our mortgage" became "OBAMA GUNNA PAY MAH MORTGAGE"?
 
2013-02-19 02:05:19 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: "I'm outraged, and every voter, regardless of their political affiliation, should be outraged,"

Twenty people are being investigated for committing crimes that appear to have had no practical impact on anything and they will, presumably, be charged and tried if sufficient evidence is found to warrant arrests.

What exactly am I being outraged about, again? That the system appears to be working as intended and some people who may have committed crimes may have gotten caught?

/ oh... right.... Fox News... everything is an outrage


Let me introduce you to the "to Big To Jail" bankers, and their asshat associates, the Federal.government.
 
2013-02-19 02:05:25 PM
This should be fun.

So the themes of the friends of BS Mountain in this thread should be:

-The plural of Anecdote is Data, so Romney probably won.
-Voter ID laws need to be redesigned to prevent the0.0001% of fraudulent votes from corrupting our democracy
-Misleading "Need ID to vote" ads put out by Repubs in Dem districts? What misleading "Need ID to vote" ads put out by Repubs in Dem districts?
-Acorn did this, even if they don't exist anymore.
-Secret UN bases, contrails and Kenyan spy agencies are to blame.
 
2013-02-19 02:05:53 PM
I keep being told voter fraud doesnt happen. Its the voter suppression we are supposed to worry about.

/Showing ID would fix both but thats too hard
 
2013-02-19 02:06:18 PM
if it is true this is a serious problem... what happens when a Repub beats a Dem due to voter fraud?
 
2013-02-19 02:06:51 PM
I was told this never happens.
 
2013-02-19 02:06:55 PM

Peter von Nostrand: busy chillin': TFA headline asks "6 times?"

Articles states "twice"


This sh*t ain't cool, but why use derpy hyperbole? Oh yeah, clicks, ratings and outrage.

Pretty sure Trollmitter has outed himself in the comments already


well, I meant the actual Fox "News" article. Of course Farkers gonna troll, but the media should be bett hahahaha
 
2013-02-19 02:07:24 PM

Onkel Buck: I keep being told voter fraud doesnt happen. Its the voter suppression we are supposed to worry about.

/Showing ID would fix both but thats too hard


If you provide the ID's free of charge, there would be no controversy. But obviously the GOP is against that for some reason.
 
2013-02-19 02:07:35 PM
For the benefit of those like tenpoundsofcheese, a little history...

Southern Democrats (who were the ones who denounced Brown) are now Republicans. The two parties started switching sides during the Great Depression. Know the expression 'Dixiecrat'? They left and went GOP because of things like Brown. The rest left when the Civil Rights Act became law. Republicans prior to accepting these racist nutjobs were actually what they now claim to be (but aren't); fiscally conservative and not terribly concerned with social issues. They mutated into today's craven, callow party when they adopted the Southern Strategy in the wake of Goldwater's crushing defeat by Johnson in 1964. All of this is why the tired lines about political affiliations during this time (MLK was a Republican! Democrats are racist!) are not true anymore. It's also why today's GOP has absolutely no business invoking the name of Abraham Lincoln as an inspiration, considering that he was *extremely* big government focused and actually did some social engineering.

If you buy all of this warped pseudo-history that is being peddled, you either don't know the history or are trying to put one over on your opposition. Stop farking with history. Only losers do that.
 
2013-02-19 02:07:41 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: DamnYankees: Ok? Charge her with whatever that crime is and give her the appropriate punishment. Do we need Fox News articles for every crime?

Oh look, someone all butt hurt because *gasp* the news is covering a story about a crime.

Let me guess, you only want the news to cover stories about Kim and...wait for it...newsflash...Fergie is pregnant!  Wowie.


which one?
 
2013-02-19 02:07:51 PM

busy chillin': TFA headline asks "6 times?"

Articles states "twice"


This sh*t ain't cool, but why use derpy hyperbole? Oh yeah, clicks, ratings and outrage.


TFA says three more ballots came from her house in her handwriting, plus she voted in person and voted for her daughter.

I need to figure out how to be a poll worker, I sat in a 2 hour line that was so stupid, they were pulling people with last names below a certain letter ahead of people who had been waiting hours. Everyone was moving in slow motion and seemed to have no cares in the world.
 
2013-02-19 02:07:54 PM
Great, so apparently our systems for catching voter fraud are operational. Remind me again why we need voter id laws?
 
2013-02-19 02:08:01 PM
Did Republicans finally find a real case of voter fraud?

Maybe its that .000001% that costs them every election.
 
2013-02-19 02:08:15 PM

Snowflake Tubbybottom: I was told this never happens.


She got caught though.

But you're right, she single-handedly stole Ohio from Romney.
 
2013-02-19 02:08:23 PM

rufus-t-firefly: tenpoundsofcheese:
FTA:   She appears to have used her position as a poll worker to cover her tracks.

And she did a bad job at the whole track covering part.

And yet, even without a voter ID system she's being investigated. It's almost as if the current laws work.

Now, if we require you to show ID for all gun purchases - well, that's just a horrible infringement on your rights.

Right?


In my state, I have to show an ID to buy a gun. I also have to show an ID to vote. It has not stopped me from doing either.
 
2013-02-19 02:08:33 PM
"There was absolutely no intent on my part to commit any voter fraud," she insisted.

Well, OK then, nothing to see here, I'm good with this explanation.
 
2013-02-19 02:08:50 PM

Tomahawk513: Great, so apparently our systems for catching voter fraud are operational. Remind me again why we need voter id laws?


Because the Democrats are still winning.

That's the REAL fraud!
 
2013-02-19 02:09:13 PM
ftfa : It is disconcerting that someone would be so bold as to admit their conduct in such a fashion

Sooo, she should have just kept her mouth shut when corrupting the election process like the other guys, huh ?
 
2013-02-19 02:09:19 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: rufus-t-firefly: tenpoundsofcheese:
FTA:   She appears to have used her position as a poll worker to cover her tracks.

And she did a bad job at the whole track covering part.

And yet, even without a voter ID system she's being investigated. It's almost as if the current laws work.

How did the current system work if she voted 6 times?


Because she has apparently been caught. Assuming that she did, of course.

And, again, why would you need to show photo ID to vote if you don't have to do so to buy a gun?
 
2013-02-19 02:09:24 PM

busy chillin': TFA headline asks "6 times?"

Articles states "twice"


This sh*t ain't cool, but why use derpy hyperbole? Oh yeah, clicks, ratings and outrage.



Hyderpole.  I like it.
 
2013-02-19 02:10:16 PM
You lost, get over it.
 
2013-02-19 02:10:33 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: rufus-t-firefly: tenpoundsofcheese:
FTA:   She appears to have used her position as a poll worker to cover her tracks.

And she did a bad job at the whole track covering part.

And yet, even without a voter ID system she's being investigated. It's almost as if the current laws work.

Now, if we require you to show ID for all gun purchases - well, that's just a horrible infringement on your rights.

Right?

In my state, I have to show an ID to buy a gun. I also have to show an ID to vote. It has not stopped me from doing either.


At gun shows as well?
 
2013-02-19 02:11:09 PM

IamPatSajak: busy chillin': TFA headline asks "6 times?"

Articles states "twice"


This sh*t ain't cool, but why use derpy hyperbole? Oh yeah, clicks, ratings and outrage.

TFA says three more ballots came from her house in her handwriting, plus she voted in person and voted for her daughter.

I need to figure out how to be a poll worker, I sat in a 2 hour line that was so stupid, they were pulling people with last names below a certain letter ahead of people who had been waiting hours. Everyone was moving in slow motion and seemed to have no cares in the world.


sh*t! I got to her quote saying twice and then the republican guy being outraged and closed the window. missed those others. *shakes tiny fish*
 
2013-02-19 02:11:36 PM

quatchi: Richardson claimed she had submitted an absentee ballot, but was afraid her vote would not count so she also voted in person. She also said she voted in the name of her granddaughter and yet another person.

"There was absolutely no intent on my part to commit any voter fraud," she insisted.

*facepalm*

If she actually did this and said this throw the book at her.

Twice.


It's the same rationalization that lets people shop for someone else and use the absentee's food stamps.

As for her voting twice, it's due to the same thing that makes people push elevator call buttons repeatedly:  lack of faith in "the system."
 
2013-02-19 02:11:51 PM

Kell Hound: For the benefit of those like tenpoundsofcheese, a little history...

Southern Democrats (who were the ones who denounced Brown) are now Republicans. The two parties started switching sides during the Great Depression. Know the expression 'Dixiecrat'? They left and went GOP because of things like Brown. The rest left when the Civil Rights Act became law. Republicans prior to accepting these racist nutjobs were actually what they now claim to be (but aren't); fiscally conservative and not terribly concerned with social issues. They mutated into today's craven, callow party when they adopted the Southern Strategy in the wake of Goldwater's crushing defeat by Johnson in 1964. All of this is why the tired lines about political affiliations during this time (MLK was a Republican! Democrats are racist!) are not true anymore. It's also why today's GOP has absolutely no business invoking the name of Abraham Lincoln as an inspiration, considering that he was *extremely* big government focused and actually did some social engineering.

If you buy all of this warped pseudo-history that is being peddled, you either don't know the history or are trying to put one over on your opposition. Stop farking with history. Only losers do that.


cdn103.iofferphoto.com
 
2013-02-19 02:12:33 PM
With all due respect to old ladies, if you asked my grandmother who she voted for in the most recent election, she would have said Roosevelt...possibly even Theodore
 
2013-02-19 02:12:34 PM

trotsky: I saw this making the way around the Tea Tard community. I've also seen different numbers thrown around. Smells like a CMSM load of bullshiat to me. Somebody got paid.


Keep farking that chicken.
 
2013-02-19 02:12:47 PM
Look, I read Fark.  We all know that if there's any voter fraud going on, it's ALL being done by republicans and evil diebold machines.  Any other story doesn't fit that narrative, so please kindly remove this one from the interwebz.
 
2013-02-19 02:12:52 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: rufus-t-firefly: tenpoundsofcheese:
FTA:   She appears to have used her position as a poll worker to cover her tracks.

And she did a bad job at the whole track covering part.

And yet, even without a voter ID system she's being investigated. It's almost as if the current laws work.

Now, if we require you to show ID for all gun purchases - well, that's just a horrible infringement on your rights.

Right?

In my state, I have to show an ID to buy a gun. I also have to show an ID to vote. It has not stopped me from doing either.


^this
 
2013-02-19 02:13:07 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Interesting comments about some events in 1957
"Republican platform had expressly endorsed the Supreme Court decision in Brown v. Board of Education. The Democratic platform did not.
To the contrary, that year, 99 members of Congress signed the "Southern Manifesto" denouncing the court's ruling in Brown. Two were Republicans. Ninety-seven were Democrats. "

feel safe now?


Then the 60s happened.

Johnson made a big fuss about civil rights and Nixon came along with his Southern Strategy and all them old Yellow Dogs now bark a different tune.  But, brother, we had your back in 1957!
 
2013-02-19 02:13:13 PM
If she did it, she should be tried and sentenced according to the laws of the state.  I don't see why this is such a huge issue.  People from both sides have committed election fraud before.  I fail to see why this is something particularly newsworthy.  19 people in a county of how many thousands did this?  It's kind of a non-issue, imo.
 
2013-02-19 02:13:51 PM

Highroller48: The plural of Anecdote is Data


That's actually true.  Data is a collection of individual anecdotes.  It may be skewed data, depending on how carefully the anecdotes are chosen, but at it's heart that's what polling is:  The collection of anecdotes.
 
2013-02-19 02:14:10 PM
Sorry FOX News haters, but I heard about it on an ABC affilliate first way back last week and severl times since. For those who think that the alleged perps should go without any punishment if it is proven that they did commit fraud, how about you just get hit and run by a driver and the DA just lets him/her walk free?
 
2013-02-19 02:14:11 PM

Mrtraveler01: If you provide the ID's free of charge, there would be no controversy. But obviously the GOP is against that for some reason.


Offering IDs free of charge still wouldn't resolve an issue.  You still have to travel somewhere (which could take a half day in many remote locations) and provide further documentation such as a birth certificate to get an ID.  Many elderly people don't have a copy of their birth certificates (especially men and women who are black).  So they need to request one - and every state charges a fee for that service.

All for something that does nothing to prevent vote fraud.  As evident by this article.
 
2013-02-19 02:14:12 PM
She is stupid and she did a stupid thing. She should be prosecuted.
 
2013-02-19 02:14:15 PM

Onkel Buck: I keep being told voter fraud doesnt happen. Its the voter suppression we are supposed to worry about.


Well, looks like one Fox News article detailing an alleged single instance of it has proven systematic voter fraud exists, just like it does in your retarded oppression fantasies. That sure showed reality.
 
2013-02-19 02:14:23 PM

rufus-t-firefly: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: rufus-t-firefly: tenpoundsofcheese:
FTA:   She appears to have used her position as a poll worker to cover her tracks.

And she did a bad job at the whole track covering part.

And yet, even without a voter ID system she's being investigated. It's almost as if the current laws work.

Now, if we require you to show ID for all gun purchases - well, that's just a horrible infringement on your rights.

Right?

In my state, I have to show an ID to buy a gun. I also have to show an ID to vote. It has not stopped me from doing either.

At gun shows as well?


nice way to divert from the article in question.
 
2013-02-19 02:14:34 PM

rufus-t-firefly: And yet, even without a voter ID system she's being investigated. It's almost as if the current laws work.


Actually, TFA mentioned that she voted for family members.  Voter ID would have prevented that.
Voter ID cant prevent people who vote absentee and then go back and vote in the flesh.  That is why absentee ballots need to cut off a week or so before the general election.  Anyone who votes twice, gets both votes scrubbed.
 
2013-02-19 02:14:39 PM
They're just making up for that Bush/Kerry bushiat

www.truthmove.org
 
2013-02-19 02:14:50 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Sorry Romney, you lost because your supporters were honest.


You show me an honest salesman, lawyer, or politician.  And I'll show you a man that is out of work.
 
2013-02-19 02:15:11 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Look, I read Fark.  We all know that if there's any voter fraud going on, it's ALL being done by republicans and evil diebold machines.  Any other story doesn't fit that narrative, so please kindly remove this one from the interwebz.


Who is saying there is no voter fraud?

All we're saying is that it doesn't happen so often that it impacts an outcome of an election. Romney lost by way more than 19 in Hamilton County.

So unless you have proof that voter fraud is so rampant, it actually impacted the outcome of an election. Then I don't see the need for Voter ID.
 
2013-02-19 02:15:17 PM

IamPatSajak: I need to figure out how to be a poll worker, I sat in a 2 hour line that was so stupid, they were pulling people with last names below a certain letter ahead of people who had been waiting hours. Everyone was moving in slow motion and seemed to have no cares in the world.


Free pot for everybody?  No wonder you stayed for two hours!
 
2013-02-19 02:15:26 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: trotsky: I saw this making the way around the Tea Tard community. I've also seen different numbers thrown around. Smells like a CMSM load of bullshiat to me. Somebody got paid.

Keep farking that chicken.


human centipedes make better sex partners
 
2013-02-19 02:15:57 PM
Oh why did this person have to be black. In person fraud is statistly what 0% of votes cast? And they catch the morans like this. I'd say this is the least of any election issues, but I'm sure it will come up big time next election.
 
2013-02-19 02:16:05 PM
 
2013-02-19 02:16:30 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: In my state, I have to show an ID to buy a gun. I also have to show an ID to vote. It has not stopped me from doing either.


Ever ask yourself why you have to show an ID?  Its almost always to protect something or someone else.  Not you.

/showing an ID to buy liquor doesn't prevent liquor sales to minors but to get the local DA elected for being "tough" or something
//showing an ID to get on a plane does thing to prevent plane hijackings but prevents grey market sales of plane tickets
///can go on for hours
 
2013-02-19 02:17:05 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: rufus-t-firefly: tenpoundsofcheese:
FTA:   She appears to have used her position as a poll worker to cover her tracks.

And she did a bad job at the whole track covering part.

And yet, even without a voter ID system she's being investigated. It's almost as if the current laws work.

Now, if we require you to show ID for all gun purchases - well, that's just a horrible infringement on your rights.

Right?

In my state, I have to show an ID to buy a gun. I also have to show an ID to vote. It has not stopped me from doing either.


You're not homeless living off the streets with no money in your pocket to pay for said ID, nor pay for the documents required to get said ID, (birth certificate) nor do you have a problem with the other documents which require you to have a valid mailing address to get said ID (utility bills are the most common used in Michigan).  Therefore, I would not expect that you would have a problem doing either.  For those people that don't have a home, who don't have money to buy their birth certificate and who don't have utility bills or other documents showing a valid mailing address, I would expect their story to be somewhat different.  Does that mean they should not have the right to vote?
 
2013-02-19 02:17:06 PM
ok libs, I got it.

There should be no news articles much less prosecutions about anything related to election issues unless it is proven that something swung the election.
 
2013-02-19 02:17:14 PM
//showing an ID to get on a plane does nonething to prevent plane hijackings but prevents grey market sales of plane tickets


(ugh - too early in the morning to post)
 
2013-02-19 02:17:29 PM
"I'm outraged, and every voter, regardless of their political affiliation, should be outraged," said Hamilton County Board of Elections member Alex Triantafilou, who is also chairman of the county Republican Party. "It causes folks to have real doubts about the fabric of our very democratic process."

"Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done."-Pennsylvania House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R)
 
2013-02-19 02:17:50 PM

dittybopper: Highroller48: The plural of Anecdote is Data

That's actually true.  Data is a collection of individual anecdotes.  It may be skewed data, depending on how carefully the anecdotes are chosen, but at it's heart that's what polling is:  The collection of anecdotes.


There is a difference between "29% of people said they carry a gun" and "29% of people were observed carrying guns."
 
2013-02-19 02:18:25 PM

Mrtraveler01: SlothB77: Richardson is one of 19 people suspected of illegal voting by the Hamilton County Board of Elections in the last election.

doesn't say if they were all obama voters or not, though.

19 votes? Well this would've sure changed the outcome of the election in Hamilton County!

Hamilton100.0% ReportingB. Obama (i)Dem51.8%208,508M. RomneyGOP46.9%188,653G. JohnsonLib0.9%3,596J. SteinGrn0.2%974R. DuncanUna0.1%397V. GoodeCST0.1%329S. AlexanderSoc0.0%11

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/ohio/


100% of voter fraud is caught said the ignorant poster.
 
2013-02-19 02:18:29 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: ok libs, I got it.

There should be no news articles much less prosecutions about anything related to election issues unless it is proven that something swung the election.


I'm fine with the prosecutions. I just don't see the need to revamp our whole election process for something that doesn't even impact an election.
 
2013-02-19 02:18:39 PM
Democrats are the masters of crooked elections and always have been. With problems this widespread, either you have to have another election, or an automatic removal from office. We just can't have illegitimate, non-democratically 'elected' pretenders in this country making policy. With only a slim 51.1% of the popular vote, and all of the usual cheating by Democrats, there is no way that Obama was legitimately elected.
 
2013-02-19 02:19:06 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: ok libs, I got it.

There should be no news articles much less prosecutions about anything related to election issues unless it is proven that something swung the election.


indiedesign.typepad.com
 
2013-02-19 02:19:10 PM

MyRandomName: Mrtraveler01: SlothB77: Richardson is one of 19 people suspected of illegal voting by the Hamilton County Board of Elections in the last election.

doesn't say if they were all obama voters or not, though.

19 votes? Well this would've sure changed the outcome of the election in Hamilton County!

Hamilton100.0% ReportingB. Obama (i)Dem51.8%208,508M. RomneyGOP46.9%188,653G. JohnsonLib0.9%3,596J. SteinGrn0.2%974R. DuncanUna0.1%397V. GoodeCST0.1%329S. AlexanderSoc0.0%11

http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/ohio/

100% of voter fraud is caught said the ignorant poster.


So how much voter fraud do you think really happens then?

Do you think it happens so often it impacts the outcome of an election?
 
2013-02-19 02:19:25 PM

Cagey B: Onkel Buck: I keep being told voter fraud doesnt happen. Its the voter suppression we are supposed to worry about.

Well, looks like one Fox News article detailing an alleged single instance of it has proven systematic voter fraud exists, just like it does in your retarded oppression fantasies. That sure showed reality.


LOLWUT?

So a little fraud is OK? Got it
 
2013-02-19 02:19:40 PM

o5iiawah: Actually, TFA mentioned that she voted for family members.  Voter ID would have prevented that.


Actually it wouldn't.  She was a poll worker in a position of trust.  And thats the thing - there are easier ways to throw an election by then getting someone to vote twice.  One of those is being a poll worker or in charge the election so you can shorten the voting cycle (see Florida).

/calling people to say their absentee vote didn't count is also useful
//so is putting up signs saying the election day changed
///and slashing tires
 
2013-02-19 02:19:51 PM
Don't absentee ballots get thrown out if there is a record of the voter voting in person?
 
2013-02-19 02:20:06 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: There should be no news articles much less prosecutions about anything related to election issues unless it is proven that something swung the election.


There absolutely should be prosecution. In this case and all others.
 
2013-02-19 02:21:06 PM

rufus-t-firefly: tenpoundsofcheese: rufus-t-firefly: tenpoundsofcheese:
FTA:   She appears to have used her position as a poll worker to cover her tracks.

And she did a bad job at the whole track covering part.

And yet, even without a voter ID system she's being investigated. It's almost as if the current laws work.

How did the current system work if she voted 6 times?

Because she has apparently been caught. Assuming that she did, of course.


That is like saying the gun laws worked because we caught the shooter in CT.

And, again, why would you need to show photo ID to vote if you don't have to do so to buy a gun?
 
2013-02-19 02:21:09 PM

DamnYankees: Ok? Charge her with whatever that crime is and give her the appropriate punishment. Do we need Fox News articles for every crime?


only if it is committed by evul liburul socialist mooslims
 
2013-02-19 02:21:20 PM
Proof please.
 
2013-02-19 02:21:43 PM

Onkel Buck: Cagey B: Onkel Buck: I keep being told voter fraud doesnt happen. Its the voter suppression we are supposed to worry about.

Well, looks like one Fox News article detailing an alleged single instance of it has proven systematic voter fraud exists, just like it does in your retarded oppression fantasies. That sure showed reality.

LOLWUT?

So a little fraud is OK? Got it


No fraud is ok.

The point is that saying "one person committed voter fraud so Voter ID" is needed is a silly argument to make.

BTW: This is the argument that Fox News is making
 
2013-02-19 02:22:44 PM
To be fair, she actually voted 5 times, but only 3 of them counted.
 
2013-02-19 02:22:49 PM

rufus-t-firefly: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: rufus-t-firefly: tenpoundsofcheese:
FTA:   She appears to have used her position as a poll worker to cover her tracks.

And she did a bad job at the whole track covering part.

And yet, even without a voter ID system she's being investigated. It's almost as if the current laws work.

Now, if we require you to show ID for all gun purchases - well, that's just a horrible infringement on your rights.

Right?

In my state, I have to show an ID to buy a gun. I also have to show an ID to vote. It has not stopped me from doing either.

At gun shows as well?


I've never been to a gun show here, so I'm not sure what the gun laws are in this area applying to gun shows.
The only gun show I have been to was in North Carolina, and at that time dealers were required to go through the regular channels to sell a gun, which required a permit from local law enforcement to be obtained by the buyer.
 
2013-02-19 02:24:16 PM
dancingczars.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-19 02:24:43 PM

Jackson Herring: DamnYankees: Ok? Charge her with whatever that crime is and give her the appropriate punishment. Do we need Fox News articles for every crime?

No this is an important story, because in the words of Free Republic she "looks like a likely Obama voter"


Or, rather, in her own words... she is an Obama voter?
 
2013-02-19 02:25:19 PM

WTFDYW: For those who think that the alleged perps should go without any punishment if it is proven that they did commit fraud,


who the motherfarking fark has actually seriously proposed this
 
2013-02-19 02:25:49 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: "I'm outraged, and every voter, regardless of their political affiliation, should be outraged,"

Twenty people are being investigated for committing crimes that appear to have had no practical impact on anything and they will, presumably, be charged and tried if sufficient evidence is found to warrant arrests.

What exactly am I being outraged about, again? That the system appears to be working as intended and some people who may have committed crimes may have gotten caught?

/ oh... right.... Fox News... everything is an outrage


Hey these are the same people who think that because ACORN reported all those fraudulent registrations that they were somehow responsible for them.
 
2013-02-19 02:25:51 PM

vsavatar: You're not homeless living off the streets with no money in your pocket to pay for said ID, nor pay for the documents required to get said ID


I can just about guarantee you these people are not showing up at the polls to vote.
 
2013-02-19 02:25:53 PM
 
2013-02-19 02:26:40 PM
Congrats FOX News, after 4 years and a few months of Obama being in the White House, you finally found an example of Democrat voter fraud.

/Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't these douchebags cool with voter fraud when it was James O'Keefe doing it?
 
2013-02-19 02:27:15 PM
We can easily fix the massive voter fraud with a tax cut for job creators.

DUH.
 
2013-02-19 02:28:22 PM
i21.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-19 02:28:37 PM

Mrtraveler01: Onkel Buck: Cagey B: Onkel Buck: I keep being told voter fraud doesnt happen. Its the voter suppression we are supposed to worry about.

Well, looks like one Fox News article detailing an alleged single instance of it has proven systematic voter fraud exists, just like it does in your retarded oppression fantasies. That sure showed reality.

LOLWUT?

So a little fraud is OK? Got it

No fraud is ok.

The point is that saying "one person committed voter fraud so Voter ID" is needed is a silly argument to make.

BTW: This is the argument that Fox News is making


You need to show ID for everything else, its just a natural progression. The idea that it disenfranchises people is BS. I bet they dont get disenfranchised showing ID to get their perscriptions or a bottle of booze. And before you start bellyaching about poll taxes, I have no problem with IDs being provided for free for people who need them. There are plenty of other freebies provided, whats one more?
 
2013-02-19 02:29:44 PM
The solution is obvious:  Shoot all the Democrats in Ohio.  Every last one of them.
 
2013-02-19 02:30:33 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: To be fair, she actually voted 5 times, but only 3 of them counted.


Oh! Ouch! Well done! Ha!
 
2013-02-19 02:33:01 PM

Onkel Buck: Mrtraveler01: Onkel Buck: Cagey B: Onkel Buck: I keep being told voter fraud doesnt happen. Its the voter suppression we are supposed to worry about.

Well, looks like one Fox News article detailing an alleged single instance of it has proven systematic voter fraud exists, just like it does in your retarded oppression fantasies. That sure showed reality.

LOLWUT?

So a little fraud is OK? Got it

No fraud is ok.

The point is that saying "one person committed voter fraud so Voter ID" is needed is a silly argument to make.

BTW: This is the argument that Fox News is making

You need to show ID for everything else, its just a natural progression. The idea that it disenfranchises people is BS. I bet they dont get disenfranchised showing ID to get their perscriptions or a bottle of booze. And before you start bellyaching about poll taxes, I have no problem with IDs being provided for free for people who need them. There are plenty of other freebies provided, whats one more?


That's cool.  So you don't mind your taxes being raised a little bit to pay for free IDs for everyone?  If Republicans were OK with funding the free IDs and raising the required taxes to do so, this would be a non-issue.
 
2013-02-19 02:34:50 PM

Onkel Buck: I have no problem with IDs being provided for free for people who need them.


Too bad this isn't being seriously considered.

Instead this stuff is coupled with other idiotic bullcrap like cutting the number of early voting days and the hours on those days in Democrat areas and increasing the number of early voting days and the hours of those days in Republican areas.

Lucky for me I live in a Republican area.
 
2013-02-19 02:38:46 PM
o5iiawah
Voter ID cant prevent people who vote absentee and then go back and vote in the flesh. That is why absentee ballots need to cut off a week or so before the general election.


Not really necessary.
Just get the list of people who voted at the polling places before you start opening the absentee ballots.
 
2013-02-19 02:38:50 PM
People against voter id laws look kind of silly now, don't they?
 
2013-02-19 02:40:36 PM

Popcorn Johnny: People against voter id laws look kind of silly now, don't they?


Why?

Did this change the outcome of the election in Ohio?
 
2013-02-19 02:40:53 PM

Douchie McBaggus: Onkel Buck: Mrtraveler01: Onkel Buck: Cagey B: Onkel Buck: I keep being told voter fraud doesnt happen. Its the voter suppression we are supposed to worry about.

Well, looks like one Fox News article detailing an alleged single instance of it has proven systematic voter fraud exists, just like it does in your retarded oppression fantasies. That sure showed reality.

LOLWUT?

So a little fraud is OK? Got it

No fraud is ok.

The point is that saying "one person committed voter fraud so Voter ID" is needed is a silly argument to make.

BTW: This is the argument that Fox News is making

You need to show ID for everything else, its just a natural progression. The idea that it disenfranchises people is BS. I bet they dont get disenfranchised showing ID to get their perscriptions or a bottle of booze. And before you start bellyaching about poll taxes, I have no problem with IDs being provided for free for people who need them. There are plenty of other freebies provided, whats one more?

That's cool.  So you don't mind your taxes being raised a little bit to pay for free IDs for everyone?  If Republicans were OK with funding the free IDs and raising the required taxes to do so, this would be a non-issue.


It seems to me in my state the dems are against it, but that may just be sour grapes. And would you need to raise taxes? Couldnt it be rolled into another freebie program like the phones? How much does it cost for a piece of plastic with a picture on it? Thats what I dont understand, groups can organize shuttle busses to the polls for people so they can vote, but they cant figure out how to get them an ID? Its a simple fix but it seems no one wants to take the lead on it
 
2013-02-19 02:41:43 PM

gingerjet: Mrtraveler01: If you provide the ID's free of charge, there would be no controversy. But obviously the GOP is against that for some reason.

Offering IDs free of charge still wouldn't resolve an issue.  You still have to travel somewhere (which could take a half day in many remote locations) and provide further documentation such as a birth certificate to get an ID.  Many elderly people don't have a copy of their birth certificates (especially men and women who are black).  So they need to request one - and every state charges a fee for that service.

All for something that does nothing to prevent vote fraud.  As evident by this article.


You are entitled to your opinion, but you'd be wrong according to Crawford Vs. Marion County.
The act of getting up out of bed, itself is a burden. The act of getting in your car or walking to the poll is a burden.  Filling in the blank is a burden.

The act of getting a free ID once every 10 years is not any more of an unreasonable burden than the act of voting itself.  Read what Justice Stevens (Who wrote for the majority) had to say about it.
 
2013-02-19 02:43:01 PM

rufus-t-firefly: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: rufus-t-firefly: tenpoundsofcheese:
FTA:   She appears to have used her position as a poll worker to cover her tracks.

And she did a bad job at the whole track covering part.

And yet, even without a voter ID system she's being investigated. It's almost as if the current laws work.

Now, if we require you to show ID for all gun purchases - well, that's just a horrible infringement on your rights.

Right?

In my state, I have to show an ID to buy a gun. I also have to show an ID to vote. It has not stopped me from doing either.

At gun shows as well?


I usually have to show ID just to get IN to a gun show.
And for each gun I own, I have had to show ID, which was then run through a national database. I have no problem with this, nor do I know any gun owners who do.

We absolutely need a voter ID system in place.
 
2013-02-19 02:43:30 PM

Popcorn Johnny: People against voter id laws look kind of silly now, don't they?


The only people who look silly here are those that think that a single instance of something proves a systemic trend, and the open racist upthread.
 
2013-02-19 02:43:36 PM

Katya Bolsov: We absolutely need a voter ID system in place.


why
 
2013-02-19 02:44:23 PM
I compiled a list of ways in which requiring voter ID would have stopped this alleged fraud:

1.
 
2013-02-19 02:44:56 PM

Onkel Buck: The idea that it disenfranchises people is BS.


That's literally what it's designed to do. The GOP knows they can't continue to win elections unless they change the rules, whether it be by trying to dole out electoral votes by congressional districts (which would make the votes of rural republicans worth eight to 10 times as much as liberal city slickers in purple states) or throwing up billboards to try to keep black people from voting.

By the way, can someone find me that story about the state that extended its residency requirement and then moved registration to within that many days of college move-in, in an effort to prevent college kids from being able to vote without driving back to their parent's houses?
 
2013-02-19 02:45:27 PM

Onkel Buck: Douchie McBaggus: Onkel Buck: Mrtraveler01: Onkel Buck: Cagey B: Onkel Buck: I keep being told voter fraud doesnt happen. Its the voter suppression we are supposed to worry about.

Well, looks like one Fox News article detailing an alleged single instance of it has proven systematic voter fraud exists, just like it does in your retarded oppression fantasies. That sure showed reality.

LOLWUT?

So a little fraud is OK? Got it

No fraud is ok.

The point is that saying "one person committed voter fraud so Voter ID" is needed is a silly argument to make.

BTW: This is the argument that Fox News is making

You need to show ID for everything else, its just a natural progression. The idea that it disenfranchises people is BS. I bet they dont get disenfranchised showing ID to get their perscriptions or a bottle of booze. And before you start bellyaching about poll taxes, I have no problem with IDs being provided for free for people who need them. There are plenty of other freebies provided, whats one more?

That's cool.  So you don't mind your taxes being raised a little bit to pay for free IDs for everyone?  If Republicans were OK with funding the free IDs and raising the required taxes to do so, this would be a non-issue.

It seems to me in my state the dems are against it, but that may just be sour grapes. And would you need to raise taxes? Couldnt it be rolled into another freebie program like the phones? How much does it cost for a piece of plastic with a picture on it? Thats what I dont understand, groups can organize shuttle busses to the polls for people so they can vote, but they cant figure out how to get them an ID? Its a simple fix but it seems no one wants to take the lead on it


The real problem is that the state would lose out on a LOT of money if they were to give out these ID's for free in addition to mailing them.
 
2013-02-19 02:46:58 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: They're just making up for that Bush/Kerry bushiat

[www.truthmove.org image 453x348]


Bush didn't steal Bush/Kerry, Swiftboat Veterans Against John Kerry did.

He didn't steal Bush/Gore either, actually. The supreme court did.
 
2013-02-19 02:47:02 PM
She should serve a prison term and lose her right to vote.
 
2013-02-19 02:49:31 PM

Mrtraveler01: Why?

Did this change the outcome of the election in Ohio?


I guess we'll never know since we have no way of knowing how many fraudulent votes were cast.
 
2013-02-19 02:49:41 PM
"Likely Obama voters" is racist? Back during the first election, I don't recall whitey threatening to riot in the streets if Obama lost....
 
2013-02-19 02:49:52 PM

Jackson Herring: I compiled a list of ways in which requiring voter ID would have stopped this alleged fraud:

1.


I don't know how I missed this. Yes, republicans, please inform us how voter ID helps to prevent absentee ballot fraud.
 
2013-02-19 02:52:29 PM

Popcorn Johnny: I guess we'll never know since we have no way of knowing how many fraudulent votes were cast.


"Our democracy is under siege from an enemy so small it could be hiding anywhere," joked Stephen Colbert.
 
2013-02-19 02:53:20 PM

Sgt Otter: Spad31: Of course she did. Look at her.

She looks like an average elderly black woman. Am I missing something?


Spad31's history of having problems with black people?
 
2013-02-19 02:54:15 PM

o5iiawah: The act of getting a free ID once every 10 years is not any more of an unreasonable burden than the act of voting itself.


But not every ID is free.  or good for 10 years.
 
2013-02-19 02:54:55 PM

Lee451: "Likely Obama voters" is racist? Back during the first election, I don't recall whitey threatening to riot in the streets if Obama lost....


Whitey rioted at the University of Mississippi when Romney lost.
 
2013-02-19 02:55:52 PM

Cagey B: Popcorn Johnny: People against voter id laws look kind of silly now, don't they?

The only people who look silly here are those that think that a single instance of something proves a systemic trend, and the open racist upthread.


Plus, how would voter ID have prevented this woman from voting absentee?  That's where the alleged fraud was committed.  She didn't impersonate anyone at the polls.  And who says voter ID's can't be faked?

But yeah, one as-yet-unconfirmed (but likely) case of a few double-votes is justification for disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of people.
 
2013-02-19 02:56:08 PM

Mrtraveler01: Onkel Buck: Cagey B: Onkel Buck: I keep being told voter fraud doesnt happen. Its the voter suppression we are supposed to worry about.

Well, looks like one Fox News article detailing an alleged single instance of it has proven systematic voter fraud exists, just like it does in your retarded oppression fantasies. That sure showed reality.

LOLWUT?

So a little fraud is OK? Got it

No fraud is ok.

The point is that saying "one person committed voter fraud so Voter ID" is needed is a silly argument to make.

BTW: This is the argument that Fox News is making


BTW, no you are wrong.
No where in that article so it say that Voter ID is needed.
 
2013-02-19 02:56:35 PM

Sgt Otter: Lee451: "Likely Obama voters" is racist? Back during the first election, I don't recall whitey threatening to riot in the streets if Obama lost....

Whitey rioted at the University of Mississippi when Romney lost.


just in case someone thinks you're joking:  http://jezebel.com/5958526/here-are-some-intelligent-mississippi-coll e ge-students-rioting-because-obama-won
 
2013-02-19 02:56:43 PM

Lee451: "Likely Obama voters" is racist? Back during the first election, I don't recall whitey threatening to riot in the streets if Obama lost....


No, white people were threatening to stage a coup if he won.  Several of them actually tried.
 
2013-02-19 02:56:54 PM

Sgt Otter: Lee451: "Likely Obama voters" is racist? Back during the first election, I don't recall whitey threatening to riot in the streets if Obama lost....

Whitey rioted at the University of Mississippi when Romney lost.


When white people get together and yell, it's called a "demonstration" until somebody dies.

Unless they're liberals, in which case it's a riot.
 
2013-02-19 02:58:33 PM

lordjupiter: Plus, how would voter ID have prevented this woman from voting absentee?  That's where the alleged fraud was committed.  She didn't impersonate anyone at the polls.  And who says voter ID's can't be faked?


Exactly. Voter ID is a bad solution, with serious (and carefully targeted) problems, to the #1 LEAST COMMON FORM OF ELECTION FRAUD.
 
2013-02-19 02:59:32 PM

Mrtraveler01: Why Would I Read the Article: Look, I read Fark.  We all know that if there's any voter fraud going on, it's ALL being done by republicans and evil diebold machines.  Any other story doesn't fit that narrative, so please kindly remove this one from the interwebz.

Who is saying there is no voter fraud?

All we're saying is that it doesn't happen so often that it impacts an outcome of an election. Romney lost by way more than 19 in Hamilton County.

So unless you have proof that voter fraud is so rampant, it actually impacted the outcome of an election. Then I don't see the need for Voter ID.


Got it, so you want to want until an election is proven to be caused by voter fraud before you are willing to do anything about voter fraud.

How would that work?  Would you invalidate the election result at that point?  Ask for a re-do?  Say that it is too late to do anything about it, so the invalid election stands?
 
2013-02-19 02:59:56 PM

Mrtraveler01: Onkel Buck: Douchie McBaggus: Onkel Buck: Mrtraveler01: Onkel Buck: Cagey B: Onkel Buck: I keep being told voter fraud doesnt happen. Its the voter suppression we are supposed to worry about.

Well, looks like one Fox News article detailing an alleged single instance of it has proven systematic voter fraud exists, just like it does in your retarded oppression fantasies. That sure showed reality.

LOLWUT?

So a little fraud is OK? Got it

No fraud is ok.

The point is that saying "one person committed voter fraud so Voter ID" is needed is a silly argument to make.

BTW: This is the argument that Fox News is making

You need to show ID for everything else, its just a natural progression. The idea that it disenfranchises people is BS. I bet they dont get disenfranchised showing ID to get their perscriptions or a bottle of booze. And before you start bellyaching about poll taxes, I have no problem with IDs being provided for free for people who need them. There are plenty of other freebies provided, whats one more?

That's cool.  So you don't mind your taxes being raised a little bit to pay for free IDs for everyone?  If Republicans were OK with funding the free IDs and raising the required taxes to do so, this would be a non-issue.

It seems to me in my state the dems are against it, but that may just be sour grapes. And would you need to raise taxes? Couldnt it be rolled into another freebie program like the phones? How much does it cost for a piece of plastic with a picture on it? Thats what I dont understand, groups can organize shuttle busses to the polls for people so they can vote, but they cant figure out how to get them an ID? Its a simple fix but it seems no one wants to take the lead on it

The real problem is that the state would lose out on a LOT of money if they were to give out these ID's for free in addition to mailing them.


The real problem is that Republicans want to make it tougher to vote, as reduced turnout benefits Republicans.

There's a reason that the "crackdown on voter fraud" laws ALWAYS involve showing more ID or reducing voting options and NEVER involve opening additional DMV locations or expanding hours.
 
2013-02-19 03:01:24 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Mrtraveler01: Why Would I Read the Article: Look, I read Fark.  We all know that if there's any voter fraud going on, it's ALL being done by republicans and evil diebold machines.  Any other story doesn't fit that narrative, so please kindly remove this one from the interwebz.

Who is saying there is no voter fraud?

All we're saying is that it doesn't happen so often that it impacts an outcome of an election. Romney lost by way more than 19 in Hamilton County.

So unless you have proof that voter fraud is so rampant, it actually impacted the outcome of an election. Then I don't see the need for Voter ID.

Got it, so you want to want until an election is proven to be caused by voter fraud before you are willing to do anything about voter fraud.

How would that work?  Would you invalidate the election result at that point?  Ask for a re-do?  Say that it is too late to do anything about it, so the invalid election stands?


Using precedent from Floriduh, in the case of voter fraud, the Supreme Court sets an arbitrary date, picks a winner and declares the election over.
 
2013-02-19 03:01:42 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: trotsky: I saw this making the way around the Tea Tard community. I've also seen different numbers thrown around. Smells like a CMSM load of bullshiat to me. Somebody got paid.

Keep farking that chicken.


Really? Considering I saw this story pop on the Tea Party Community, and shared 30 billion times, some had her voting twice, some six. But we all know Fox is a paragon of truthiness, right?
 
2013-02-19 03:03:10 PM

Douchie McBaggus: That's cool.  So you don't mind your taxes being raised a little bit to pay for free IDs for everyone?  If Republicans were OK with funding the free IDs and raising the required taxes to do so, this would be a non-issue.


The $500M 0bama wasted on Solyndra could have gone a long way to getting free IDs to people who don't have one.
 
2013-02-19 03:03:20 PM

kingoomieiii: lordjupiter: Plus, how would voter ID have prevented this woman from voting absentee?  That's where the alleged fraud was committed.  She didn't impersonate anyone at the polls.  And who says voter ID's can't be faked?

Exactly. Voter ID is a bad solution, with serious (and carefully targeted) problems, to the #1 LEAST COMMON FORM OF ELECTION FRAUD.


It's almost like selling an assault weapons ban as a way to substantially decrease gun violence...

EXCEPT...

Votes can be tossed, but people can't be brought back to life, except by Dr. Frankenstein or Jesus.
 
2013-02-19 03:03:35 PM

WhoopAssWayne: Democrats are the masters of crooked elections and always have been. With problems this widespread, either you have to have another election, or an automatic removal from office. We just can't have illegitimate, non-democratically 'elected' pretenders in this country making policy. With only a slim 51.1% of the popular vote, and all of the usual cheating by Democrats, there is no way that Obama was legitimately elected.


Ok. You win. Romney is vice-president, Palin is President and Ted Nugent is Secretary of Defense. Your argument is pretty airtight.
 
2013-02-19 03:04:21 PM
"Likely Obama voters" is racist?

go back to stormfront
 
2013-02-19 03:04:22 PM
So left wing fraud is ok but right wing fraud is still bad?
 
2013-02-19 03:04:49 PM

quatchi: Richardson claimed she had submitted an absentee ballot, but was afraid her vote would not count so she also voted in person. She also said she voted in the name of her granddaughter and yet another person.

"There was absolutely no intent on my part to commit any voter fraud," she insisted.

*facepalm*

If she actually did this and said this throw the book at her.

Twice.


Heh...this.

It's the dumbass defense, on steroids...

Never thought about it before, but there probably ARE people dumb enough to vote by absentee ballot, vote again in person, and genuinely not think they've done something wrong...
 
2013-02-19 03:05:17 PM
kingoomieiii: Onkel Buck: The idea that it disenfranchises people is BS.

That's literally what it's designed to do. The GOP knows they can't continue to win elections unless they change the rules, whether it be by trying to dole out electoral votes by congressional districts (which would make the votes of rural republicans worth eight to 10 times as much as liberal city slickers in purple states) or throwing up billboards to try to keep black people from voting.

By the way, can someone find me that story about the state that extended its residency requirement and then moved registration to within that many days of college move-in, in an effort to prevent college kids from being able to vote without driving back to their parent's houses?


I dont see that as intimidating, I guess it all depends on your interpretation. But anything like that put up in a black neighborhood is gonna raise some hell, the culture of victimization being what it is. Too me it looks like a preventative measure. If someone sees that they should think "Well the election is coming up I should be prepared for it and get an ID so Im ready and wont have any problems." but then again people knew Katrina was coming and didn't do anything then either.
 
2013-02-19 03:05:25 PM

kingoomieiii: Bush didn't steal Bush/Kerry, Swiftboat Veterans Against John Kerry did.

He didn't steal Bush/Gore either, actually. The supreme court did.


Yeah that's not my sign, I'm not saying Bush has the brains to do anything.
 
2013-02-19 03:06:32 PM
If only there was some kind of billboard in Ohio that could inform voters that voter fraud is a felony.
 
2013-02-19 03:07:00 PM
Where was Jimmy Carter ?   Why did he let this happen....
 
2013-02-19 03:07:51 PM

rufus-t-firefly: At gun shows as well?


99.9% of the guns available for sale at gun shows are offered for sale by dealers.  Being a dealer, it doesn't matter where they're selling, all the rules have to be followed.

WinoRhino: There absolutely should be prosecution. In this case and all others.


+10.  The reason the practice is so rare is because we're so harsh on it.  Keep the disincentives up and we won't have contested elections.  A contested election due to voting fraud would be expensive, divisive, and undermine our government.
 
2013-02-19 03:08:37 PM

trotsky: WhoopAssWayne: Democrats are the masters of crooked elections and always have been. With problems this widespread, either you have to have another election, or an automatic removal from office. We just can't have illegitimate, non-democratically 'elected' pretenders in this country making policy. With only a slim 51.1% of the popular vote, and all of the usual cheating by Democrats, there is no way that Obama was legitimately elected.

Ok. You win. Romney is vice-president, Palin is President and Ted Nugent is Secretary of Defense. Your argument is pretty airtight.


I think WA was bing sarcastic.
 
2013-02-19 03:08:49 PM

Onkel Buck: I keep being told voter fraud doesnt happen. Its the voter suppression we are supposed to worry about.

/Showing ID would fix both but thats too hard


No, you've been told voter fraud doesn't happen in statistically significant quantities.

Try not to hurt yourself moving those goalposts.
 
2013-02-19 03:09:00 PM
I voted early and often, just like every god damn funny guy I work with said...
 
2013-02-19 03:10:03 PM

kombat_unit: So left wing fraud is ok but right wing fraud is still bad?


It's a good thing for you they don't have literacy tests at the polls anymore.
 
2013-02-19 03:10:04 PM

Billygoat Gruff: I dont see that as intimidating, I guess it all depends on your interpretation. But anything like that put up in a black neighborhood is gonna raise some hell, the culture of victimization being what it is. Too me it looks like a preventative measure.


That's because you're a racist!

A bunch of those billboards went up exclusively in heavily black neighborhoods, you don't think they were targeted  How is dialing in the message by race not intimidation, or at the very least racist as all hell?
 
2013-02-19 03:11:04 PM
So... I've just read this thread and I must be missing something here. Someone please help me with this.

She got caught. She's one of a tiny handful of individuals who committed individual voter fraud (by which I mean a person who voted extra times, not someone who rigged the entire actual election), not some vast conspiracy. Almost every single person in this thead - regardless of what "side" they're on - have said she should be prosecuted if those allegations turn out to be true (a position I agree with)...

So why are tenpoundsofcheese and other "conservative" farkers insisting that the "liberal" farkers want this swept under the rug and don't want her to be prosecuted? Are they channelling Bizzarro versions of themselves or something? Because that seems like some pretty willfully obtuse delusioneering right there...

Liberalfarkers: Sounds fishy, but it should be investigated and she should be prosecuted if these allegations are true.
Conservafarkers: OMG, why you no want her to be prosecuted?!?!? Hypocrites!!!
Me: But.. they all pretty much all just said...  /head asplode
 
2013-02-19 03:11:52 PM

Firethorn: The reason the practice is so rare is because we're so harsh on it.


It makes me laugh every time I read about how guy committing voter fraud "to show how easy it is" and getting arrested.
 
2013-02-19 03:12:08 PM

WhoopAssWayne: Democrats are the masters of crooked elections and always have been. With problems this widespread,


Widespread?

You failed basic math, didn't you?
 
2013-02-19 03:12:55 PM

Tomahawk513: It's almost like selling an assault weapons ban as a way to substantially decrease gun violence...


I'm not terribly worried about disengunchisement, actually.
 
2013-02-19 03:15:22 PM
Voter fraud, standard operating procedure for the DNC for decades.

Everyone knows it...

Voter early, vote often...especially in the ghetto where you can't report it without being called a racist, and with union members where you can't report it without disappearing.
 
2013-02-19 03:16:27 PM

kombat_unit: So left wing fraud is ok but right wing fraud is still bad?


No fraud is OK, but existing laws caught this person, who will be prosecuted and sentenced if found guilty, which is good.  Therefore, it seems reasonable that disenfranchising voters through unneeded additional laws is not something that is good for Americans.

Or do you think that more gun laws will reduce gun crime?
 
2013-02-19 03:16:30 PM

kingoomieiii: Billygoat Gruff: I dont see that as intimidating, I guess it all depends on your interpretation. But anything like that put up in a black neighborhood is gonna raise some hell, the culture of victimization being what it is. Too me it looks like a preventative measure.

That's because you're a racist!

A bunch of those billboards went up exclusively in heavily black neighborhoods, you don't think they were targeted  How is dialing in the message by race not intimidation, or at the very least racist as all hell?


You're offended, so you must be right.
 
2013-02-19 03:16:59 PM

kingoomieiii: A bunch of those billboards went up exclusively in heavily black neighborhoods, you don't think they were targeted  How is dialing in the message by race not intimidation, or at the very least racist as all hell?


"the culture of victimization"

I mean when is someone going to stand up for white protestant males anyway?
 
2013-02-19 03:17:41 PM

MilesTeg: Voter fraud, standard operating procedure for the DNC for decades.

Everyone knows it...

Voter early, vote often...especially in the ghetto where you can't report it without being called a racist, and with union members where you can't report it without disappearing.


Guess how I know you're a racist?
 
2013-02-19 03:18:17 PM
Liberalism is a mental disorder spread by self-pity.

It's also worth noting that pluralism doesn't work.
 
2013-02-19 03:18:39 PM

MilesTeg: Voter fraud, standard operating procedure for the DNC for decades.

Everyone knows it...

Voter early, vote often...especially in the ghetto where you can't report it without being called a racist, and with union members where you can't report it without disappearing.


encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2013-02-19 03:18:46 PM

kingoomieiii: Tomahawk513: It's almost like selling an assault weapons ban as a way to substantially decrease gun violence...

I'm not terribly worried about disengunchisement, actually.


Me.  Either.
 
2013-02-19 03:19:53 PM

Popcorn Johnny: People against voter id laws look kind of silly now, don't they?


Not as silly as the people who advocate a massive, useless government program that doesn't fix a serious, real-world problem.

If you'd like to debate this characterization, be sure and show your work.
 
2013-02-19 03:20:40 PM

Billygoat Gruff: You're offended, so you must be right.


I'm really not kidding, please propose and explain a scenario where I can put threatening signs up targeting specific races or ethnic groups because I believe them to be a higher-than-normal risk for an extremely rare crime, based on no evidence, without being an absolutely unconscionable racist.

You know, like you.
 
2013-02-19 03:21:24 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Douchie McBaggus: That's cool.  So you don't mind your taxes being raised a little bit to pay for free IDs for everyone?  If Republicans were OK with funding the free IDs and raising the required taxes to do so, this would be a non-issue.

The $500M 0bama wasted on Solyndra could have gone a long way to getting free IDs to people who don't have one.



WHY WON'T SOLYNDRA BE A SCANDAL@!?!?!?!?!?!?
 
2013-02-19 03:22:26 PM

sodomizer: Liberalism is a mental disorder spread by self-pity.

It's also worth noting that pluralism doesn't work.


Really? I'm pretty sure you meant to say Republicanism. Republicans are more self pitying than anyone else. Example: you.
 
2013-02-19 03:22:55 PM

trey101: if it is true this is a serious problem... what happens when a Repub beats a Dem due to voter fraud?


If the election of 2000 is anything to go by, absolutely nothing.
 
2013-02-19 03:23:44 PM
Ooooh this posted to the main page. That explains a few things.
 
2013-02-19 03:24:06 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: tenpoundsofcheese: Douchie McBaggus: That's cool.  So you don't mind your taxes being raised a little bit to pay for free IDs for everyone?  If Republicans were OK with funding the free IDs and raising the required taxes to do so, this would be a non-issue.

The $500M 0bama wasted on Solyndra could have gone a long way to getting free IDs to people who don't have one.


WHY WON'T SOLYNDRA BE A SCANDAL@!?!?!?!?!?!?


Is Solyndra his older daughter, or the younger one?
 
2013-02-19 03:24:24 PM

sodomizer: Liberalism is a mental disorder spread by self-pity.


...and which party ran Mitt "IT'S NOT FAIR, THE BLACK GUY PROMISED THEM FREE STUFF!" Romney?
 
2013-02-19 03:24:31 PM

sodomizer: Liberalism is a mental disorder spread by self-pity.

It's also worth noting that pluralism doesn't work.


posted by a farker that we must assume is a Republican/conservative with the handle "sodomizer"

Perfection
 
2013-02-19 03:25:41 PM

mongbiohazard: So... I've just read this thread and I must be missing something here. Someone please help me with this.

She got caught. She's one of a tiny handful of individuals who committed individual voter fraud (by which I mean a person who voted extra times, not someone who rigged the entire actual election), not some vast conspiracy. Almost every single person in this thead - regardless of what "side" they're on - have said she should be prosecuted if those allegations turn out to be true (a position I agree with)...

So why are tenpoundsofcheese and other "conservative" farkers insisting that the "liberal" farkers want this swept under the rug and don't want her to be prosecuted? Are they channelling Bizzarro versions of themselves or something? Because that seems like some pretty willfully obtuse delusioneering right there...

Liberalfarkers: Sounds fishy, but it should be investigated and she should be prosecuted if these allegations are true.
Conservafarkers: OMG, why you no want her to be prosecuted?!?!? Hypocrites!!!
Me: But.. they all pretty much all just said...  /head asplode


I think it's because of our old friend "the echo chamber". This has been hyped up on conservative sites and stations for a bit now. Those conservatives who visit those sites and stations are primed with this mindset. So when they get here, they discharge what they've been filled with. I myself - a FARK INDEPENDENT (tm) - have experienced this in talks with a fairly conservative, rational guy who morphed into foaming about the truth of "those people" voting multiple times with impunity. And of course, he saw it on Drudge or some such.
 
2013-02-19 03:25:42 PM

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: sodomizer: Liberalism is a mental disorder spread by self-pity.

It's also worth noting that pluralism doesn't work.

Really? I'm pretty sure you meant to say Republicanism. Republicans are more self pitying than anyone else. Example: you.


Yeah, they are the most repressed people that run everything I've ever seen.
 
2013-02-19 03:26:10 PM

busy chillin': TFA headline asks "6 times?"

Articles states "twice"


This sh*t ain't cool, but why use derpy hyperbole? Oh yeah, clicks, ratings and outrage.


The article says she voted absentee, also voted at the polls, then submitted absentee ballots for 4 relatives.  No word on whether the relatives were aware of the fact that they voted.  At least that's what she claims to have done.
 
2013-02-19 03:27:47 PM
To be fair,   this person may have been taught by other poll workers that this was ok.   Or that it was an 'accepted practice'.

Maybe her trainer was from Philadelphia....
 
2013-02-19 03:29:38 PM

Onkel Buck: I keep being told voter fraud doesn't happen. Its the voter suppression we are supposed to worry about.


That's because Baraka Hussalami Superallah Fartbongo al-Chicago suppressed the Romney vote by running for President. Of course its the voter suppression we're worried about.
 
2013-02-19 03:30:21 PM

PunGent: Not as silly as the people who advocate a massive, useless government program that doesn't fix a serious, real-world problem.


Funny how some of you claim to know the details on the levels of voter fraud in the country.
 
2013-02-19 03:30:46 PM
Well, Obama certainly didn't win because he's a competent president. It was a combination of clowns like this and the dependency society, as usual, having nothing better to do that day.
 
2013-02-19 03:31:14 PM
Jackson Herring:
"Likely Obama voters" is racist?

go back to stormfront


Because acknowledging the fact that Obama received 93% of the black vote in 2012 makes a person racist? You're like a bizarro world tea-tard where you distort reality in the opposite direction to stay within the confines of your political correctness.
 
2013-02-19 03:31:56 PM

sodomizer: Liberalism is a mental disorder spread by self-pity.

It's also worth noting that pluralism doesn't work.


Well if it's a mental disorder resulting in TFA then apparently it's an incredibly rare one. I'm sure you will continue to delude yourself in to believing your charicature is common though.
 
2013-02-19 03:33:21 PM
One isolated idiot does not voter fraud make.  When exit polling agrees with poling and expectations and yet you beat expectations by just enough to carry Ohio, that reeks of voter fraud.  That was bush 2004.  Cry me a farking river Ohio Republicans.  You did everything you could to disenfranchise people and you wonder why people went out of their way to make sure you couldn't not count their vote?
 
2013-02-19 03:34:39 PM

BarkingUnicorn: dittybopper: Highroller48: The plural of Anecdote is Data

That's actually true.  Data is a collection of individual anecdotes.  It may be skewed data, depending on how carefully the anecdotes are chosen, but at it's heart that's what polling is:  The collection of anecdotes.

There is a difference between "29% of people said they carry a gun" and "29% of people were observed carrying guns."


That's true, and it absolutely does *NOT* contradict what I said.
 
2013-02-19 03:34:58 PM

MilesTeg: Voter fraud, standard operating procedure for the DNC for decades.

Everyone knows it...

Voter early, vote often...especially in the ghetto where you can't report it without being called a racist, and with union members where you can't report it without disappearing.


You forgot to mention teh gays.
 
2013-02-19 03:34:58 PM

sodomizer: It's also worth noting that pluralism doesn't work.

i.imgur.com

 
2013-02-19 03:35:13 PM

Popcorn Johnny: PunGent: Not as silly as the people who advocate a massive, useless government program that doesn't fix a serious, real-world problem.

Funny how some of you claim to know the details on the levels of voter fraud in the country.


The conservative position is to create a billion-dollar program that would cause a huge disenfranchisement problem IMMEDIATELY, on the hopes that it MIGHT reveal the severity of another problem that MIGHT already exist, at some point in the future? On a scale of 10-10, how stupid is this?
 
2013-02-19 03:36:13 PM

enik: Well, Obama certainly didn't win because he's a competent president. It was a combination of clowns like this and the dependency society, as usual, having nothing better to do that day.


You're full of crap. Gitmo is closed, the war in Afghanistan is over, gas is 2 bucks a gallon, and unemployment is below 5%.
America is farting roses.
 
2013-02-19 03:36:16 PM

Popcorn Johnny: PunGent: Not as silly as the people who advocate a massive, useless government program that doesn't fix a serious, real-world problem.

Funny how some of you claim to know the details on the levels of voter fraud in the country.


The lack of evidence is all the evidence we need that voter fraud is rampant.
 
2013-02-19 03:40:04 PM

rufus-t-firefly: tenpoundsofcheese:
FTA:   She appears to have used her position as a poll worker to cover her tracks.

And she did a bad job at the whole track covering part.

And yet, even without a voter ID system she's being investigated. It's almost as if the current laws work.

Now, if we require you to show ID for all gun purchases - well, that's just a horrible infringement on your rights.

Right?


I don't think so. I think both should be necessary. We can have a country that requires ID for important transactions and not become a "show me your papers" state. Many European countries have found that balance, so can we.

I realize you're being sarcastic. Yours was just a great post to respond to.
 
2013-02-19 03:40:34 PM

Mrtraveler01: Popcorn Johnny: PunGent: Not as silly as the people who advocate a massive, useless government program that doesn't fix a serious, real-world problem.

Funny how some of you claim to know the details on the levels of voter fraud in the country.

The lack of evidence is all the evidence we need that voter fraud is rampant.


I was so hoping he had some studies which showed the levels of unaddressed voter fraud.  Alas, just like every other time I ask neocons for scientific evidence, I'm left wanting.
 
2013-02-19 03:42:47 PM

OvenFreshJew: Jackson Herring:
"Likely Obama voters" is racist?

go back to stormfront

Because acknowledging the fact that Obama received 93% of the black vote in 2012 makes a person racist? You're like a bizarro world tea-tard where you distort reality in the opposite direction to stay within the confines of your political correctness.


"Likely Obama voters" is an overtly racist statement made by farking racists. Sorry about your feelings.
 
2013-02-19 03:44:41 PM

Onkel Buck: I keep being told voter fraud doesnt happen.


No you don't.  You've been told that it happens to such a small degree that it's a waste of time to legislate against it.  Which seems to still be true by a wide margin.

Snowflake Tubbybottom: I was told this never happens


See above.
 
2013-02-19 03:45:16 PM

TDBoedy: Lt. Cheese Weasel: trotsky: I saw this making the way around the Tea Tard community. I've also seen different numbers thrown around. Smells like a CMSM load of bullshiat to me. Somebody got paid.

Keep farking that chicken.

human centipedes make better sex partners


Especially if you like ATM
 
2013-02-19 03:46:04 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Gitmo is closed


Obama literally ordered Guantanimo closed in his first week in office. Eight years now Congress has refused to approved the use of any prison or holding facility on American soil to hold the prisoners there, so they're staying there.
 
2013-02-19 03:47:07 PM

OvenFreshJew: Because acknowledging the fact that Obama received 93% of the black vote in 2012 makes a person racist?


factcheck.org

The Democratic candidate has been getting the lion's share of the Black vote for awhile now. Acknowledging facts that have already happened is quite different than predicting future "likely" outcomes. Hillary Clinton was getting the majority of the Black vote in the 2008 Democratic primaries for most of the race--not Obama. If someone is projecting specific voting patterns based on general ethnicity alone that is indeed race-baiting at the very least. As often is the case, the more lazy the generalization the more racially encoded content will show up. There are strong sociological reasons in the U.S. for that.

Can't believe I'm responding to a login called OvenFreshJew
 
2013-02-19 03:47:10 PM
Jackson Herring:
"Likely Obama voters" is an overtly racist statement made by farking racists. Sorry about your feelings.


Perhaps. The other interpretation is that the person making the statement is someone who understands probability, but continue being outraged if you like. Not good for your health though.
 
2013-02-19 03:48:16 PM

OvenFreshJew: Jackson Herring:
"Likely Obama voters" is an overtly racist statement made by farking racists. Sorry about your feelings.

Perhaps. The other interpretation is that the person making the statement is someone who understands probability, but continue being outraged if you like. Not good for your health though.


I am simply pointing out objective observable reality here, not feeling particularly outraged.
 
2013-02-19 03:48:51 PM

Somacandra: The Democratic candidate has been getting the lion's share of the Black vote for awhile now. Acknowledging facts that have already happened is quite different than predicting future "likely" outcomes. Hillary Clinton was getting the majority of the Black vote in the 2008 Democratic primaries for most of the race--not Obama. If someone is projecting specific voting patterns based on general ethnicity alone that is indeed race-baiting at the very least. As often is the case, the more lazy the generalization the more racially encoded content will show up. There are strong sociological reasons in the U.S. for that.


NO you don't get it nothing is racist it is all the fault of the oversensitive liberal PC police and furthermore comma
 
2013-02-19 03:48:53 PM

OvenFreshJew: Jackson Herring:
"Likely Obama voters" is an overtly racist statement made by farking racists. Sorry about your feelings.

Perhaps. The other interpretation is that the person making the statement is someone who understands probability, but continue being outraged if you like. Not good for your health though.


I just thought I'd pop in to let you know that the term "Racial Realist" just mean "Bad at statistics and proud to be racist".
 
2013-02-19 03:50:10 PM

The number 7 and the letter Q!: We can have a country that requires ID for important transactions and not become a "show me your papers" state. Many European countries have found that balance


Europe is a final countdown toward godless socialism. Your argument is invalid.
 
2013-02-19 03:53:48 PM

plewis: One isolated idiot does not voter fraud make.  When exit polling agrees with poling and expectations and yet you beat expectations by just enough to carry Ohio, that reeks of voter fraud.  That was bush 2004.  Cry me a farking river Ohio Republicans.  You did everything you could to disenfranchise people and you wonder why people went out of their way to make sure you couldn't not count their vote?


You will be the one crying. I left communism years ago and recognize it easily.
After only four years of his policies, I know where he is going. Maybe you think the poor will be better off. They won't. They never are when the producers stop producing for lack of incentive. When you punish success, you get less of it. The poor will be poorer and the rich will be gone or poor too.
First term and the real unemployment is closer to 14% if everyone who had jobs when he was sworn into office, had not given up looking for work. Gas has doubled in price since he took office. Also, Obamacare will make 30 hours be a full time work week. Everyone is more poor already.
 
2013-02-19 03:54:41 PM
Still happened:

c498390.r90.cf2.rackcdn.com
 
2013-02-19 03:54:46 PM

Somacandra: The number 7 and the letter Q!: We can have a country that requires ID for important transactions and not become a "show me your papers" state. Many European countries have found that balance

Europe is a final countdown toward godless socialism. Your argument is invalid.


Darn it! And there I was liking some of the ideas that work there. Not all, by any means. But, if something works there, and if it can fit into our way of living (demographics too) why not give it a shot?

Really like how the legal and religious aspects of marriage are separated there.
 
2013-02-19 03:55:53 PM

karnal: Also, Obamacare will make 30 hours be a full time work week.


This is a troll, right?
 
2013-02-19 03:57:48 PM

JohnnyApocalypse: I think it's because of our old friend "the echo chamber". This has been hyped up on conservative sites and stations for a bit now. Those conservatives who visit those sites and stations are primed with this mindset. So when they get here, they discharge what they've been filled with. I myself - a FARK INDEPENDENT (tm) - have experienced this in talks with a fairly conservative, rational guy who morphed into foaming about the truth of "those people" voting multiple times with impunity. And of course, he saw it on Drudge or some such.



And they assume everyone has the same kind of specious reasoning... It's like how you had that ex-GF who was always suspicious and accusing you of cheating - only to find out they were the ones cheating on you, they just assumed you must be doing the same thing to them.

My dad is one of these echo-chamber guys... I corrected him on something the other day, and told him he needed to step out of the echo chamber once in a while for some air. Later on he was accusing me of the same thing when I questioned some fauxtrage or another - but in retaliation it made no sense. I'm a non-partisan political independent, but folks who are so heavily invested in the industry which feeds them flattering worldviews just assume the rest of us share that same ideological defect. That we all seek out source who tell us only what we want to hear.

But this in here is just... I don't know how those conservafarkers could even stand their own horseshiat in this thread since it's so egregious. Literally almost every single person in the thread has been saying that she should be investigated and prosecuted if the allegations are true - but conservafarkers got all pissy complaining that no one wants her to be prosecuted. Exaggerating the importance of this story is one thing - it's a stupid thing, but at least that's got some kind of logic to it. But just straight up denying reality.... it's somewhere in between a baldfaced lie and a delusion.

Perhaps what they're doing is an experiment in some new type of propoganda combining attractive lies and willful delusion - a deliesion, if you will.
 
2013-02-19 03:58:31 PM

kingoomieiii: The conservative position is to create a billion-dollar program that would cause a huge disenfranchisement problem IMMEDIATELY, on the hopes that it MIGHT reveal the severity of another problem that MIGHT already exist, at some point in the future? On a scale of 10-10, how stupid is this?


Not nearly as stupid as allowing people to commit voter fraud.
 
2013-02-19 03:59:03 PM

Somacandra: Can't believe I'm responding to a login called OvenFreshJew


What, you wanted stale?
 
2013-02-19 04:00:31 PM

Jackson Herring: OvenFreshJew: Jackson Herring:
"Likely Obama voters" is racist?

go back to stormfront

Because acknowledging the fact that Obama received 93% of the black vote in 2012 makes a person racist? You're like a bizarro world tea-tard where you distort reality in the opposite direction to stay within the confines of your political correctness.

"Likely Obama voters" is an overtly racist statement made by farking racists. Sorry about your feelings.


What are you, some kinda likely Obama voter lover?
 
2013-02-19 04:00:58 PM

OvenFreshJew: Jackson Herring:
"Likely Obama voters" is an overtly racist statement made by farking racists. Sorry about your feelings.

Perhaps. The other interpretation is that the person making the statement is someone who understands probability, but continue being outraged if you like. Not good for your health though.


This compassionate rebuttal brought to you by a guy with the fark handle "OvenFreshJew"

but you're not racist. Nope.
 
2013-02-19 04:03:43 PM
This news story is crazy. Everyone knows that voter fraud does not exist.

Any time the subject is raised, those voicing concerns are found to be racists - dirty stinking racists, who are trying to disenfranchise minorities.

One look at the accused, and you know that these allegations are nothing more than the work of the modern day KKK.


/This woman should receive an apology
//A cash reward for her service
And a cabinet post.
 
2013-02-19 04:03:48 PM
Somacandra

I'll admit to not understanding your response. I agree if someone says that a black person is likely to vote for another black person, because the candidate is black, then that's purely racially motivated and has no basis in reality. We know Obama's party affiliation though (obviously), so saying a black person is a likely Obama voter I would image would be because he's a democrat, not being black. If the latter that person is more importantly stupid than racist.

I have no doubt there are people who say that as a subtly racist comment, but lets not let our own racial sensitivities blind us to reality.
 
2013-02-19 04:04:06 PM

Popcorn Johnny: kingoomieiii: The conservative position is to create a billion-dollar program that would cause a huge disenfranchisement problem IMMEDIATELY, on the hopes that it MIGHT reveal the severity of another problem that MIGHT already exist, at some point in the future? On a scale of 10-10, how stupid is this?

Not nearly as stupid as allowing people to commit voter fraud.


This is you know you're talking to a conservative. You're willing to cause false positives to prevent false negatives.

Put another way, you simply don't care who gets hurt in the quest to make sure NO ONE is getting anything they shouldn't, regardless of the magnitude. The same kind of people who want stricter controls over meal assistance to make sure that kids who aren't THAT hungry aren't getting taxpayer dollars, even if actual hungry children are being removed from the rolls.
 
2013-02-19 04:05:23 PM

Jackson Herring: "Likely Obama voters" is an overtly racist statement made by farking racists. Sorry about your feelings.


Yeah.  Only Likely Obama voters, election analysts and Nate Silver are allowed to say "Likely Obama voters." or "Chicago"
 
2013-02-19 04:05:47 PM
www.classwarfareexists.com

Why? Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?
 
2013-02-19 04:08:03 PM

Anderson's Pooper: Jackson Herring: "Likely Obama voters" is an overtly racist statement made by farking racists. Sorry about your feelings.

Yeah.  Only Likely Obama voters, election analysts and Nate Silver are allowed to say "Likely Obama voters." or "Chicago"


I know racists don't like context (it's hard to make the case that black people are all criminals when you're forced to take generations of blatantly racist sentencing into account), but it's a factor here.
 
2013-02-19 04:08:48 PM

Popcorn Johnny: PunGent: Not as silly as the people who advocate a massive, useless government program that doesn't fix a serious, real-world problem.

Funny how some of you claim to know the details on the levels of voter fraud in the country.


As do you.

Want to buy a magic rock?

It keeps tigers away...
 
2013-02-19 04:09:29 PM

Popcorn Johnny: kingoomieiii: The conservative position is to create a billion-dollar program that would cause a huge disenfranchisement problem IMMEDIATELY, on the hopes that it MIGHT reveal the severity of another problem that MIGHT already exist, at some point in the future? On a scale of 10-10, how stupid is this?

Not nearly as stupid as allowing people to commit voter fraud.


Guess you've never heard the expression let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. 19 individual drops of bathwater in this case.
 
2013-02-19 04:09:48 PM
I like how everyone is being "educated" as to proper racial analysis by a guy named OvenFreshJew.

Tune in tomorrow when "BiatchesAintNothingButThreeHolesForMyJizz" critiques third-wave feminism.
 
2013-02-19 04:11:04 PM
ITT: People don't know the difference between "we took a poll of likely Obama voters" and "just LOOK at that lady, she's clearly a likely Obama voter"
 
2013-02-19 04:11:50 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: To be fair, she actually voted 5 times, but only 3 of them counted.


3.6 to be exact


3/5th X 6
 
2013-02-19 04:12:02 PM

kingoomieiii: This is you know you're talking to a conservative. You're willing to cause false positives to prevent false negatives.

Put another way, you simply don't care who gets hurt in the quest to make sure NO ONE is getting anything they shouldn't, regardless of the magnitude. The same kind of people who want stricter controls over meal assistance to make sure that kids who aren't THAT hungry aren't getting taxpayer dollars, even if actual hungry children are being removed from the rolls.


Interestingly enough, these same people claim to want to see government run like a business.  You know what a business would do if they found that their losses were .0005 percent or less?  Shiat themselves with glee.
 
2013-02-19 04:13:12 PM

Jackson Herring: ITT: People don't know the difference between "we took a poll of likely Obama voters" and "just LOOK at that lady, she's clearly a likely Obama voter"


Honestly, any time you use racial statistics to make assumptions about people (or worse, reduce them to that assumption), you're being a racist bag of shiat, no matter where the statistic came from.
 
2013-02-19 04:14:02 PM

BSABSVR: Interestingly enough, these same people claim to want to see government run like a business.


Most would accept 50% "business" and 50% "cudgel".
 
2013-02-19 04:14:33 PM

kingoomieiii: Jackson Herring: I compiled a list of ways in which requiring voter ID would have stopped this alleged fraud:

1.

I don't know how I missed this. Yes, republicans, please inform us how voter ID helps to prevent absentee ballot fraud.


Because then, stay with me here, you see if anyone voted with the same ID more than once, and deal with them.
"Hey there, college student, I see you voted on campus, but you also voted absentee in your parents' district, what's up with that?"
 
2013-02-19 04:15:04 PM

Jackson Herring: ITT: People don't know the difference between "we took a poll of likely Obama voters" and "just LOOK at that lady, she's clearly a likely Obama voter"


They know.  It's Right-Wing linguistic shorthand.  "The Urban Population" became too well known as a euphemism and Fark isn't quite ready to allow posters to say "ferals" regularly.
 
2013-02-19 04:16:11 PM
kingoomieiii
Honestly, any time you use racial statistics to make assumptions about people (or worse, reduce them to that assumption), you're being a racist bag of shiat, no matter where the statistic came from.

How ridiculous. If I asked you right now which candidate in 2016 is likely to get the majority of the black vote in 2016, would you pick the Democrat or Republican? If you pick the Republican you're an idiot.

Using historical trends to say the same about an individual I could see being interpreted differently, and probably shouldn't be done, but unfortunately reality doesn't give a shiat about your feelings.
 
2013-02-19 04:16:40 PM
If a Republican had done this..... oh my god!!
 
2013-02-19 04:16:42 PM

kingoomieiii: Jackson Herring: ITT: People don't know the difference between "we took a poll of likely Obama voters" and "just LOOK at that lady, she's clearly a likely Obama voter"

Honestly, any time you use racial statistics to make assumptions about people (or worse, reduce them to that assumption), you're being a racist bag of shiat, no matter where the statistic came from.


Well no in the first example I meant it in the context of talking about pre-election polling, in which you could use the term "registered democrat" interchangeably with "likely Obama voter" without being a racist shiatbag.
 
2013-02-19 04:17:06 PM
Well, we found the one person who did it. Doesn't that make the thousands of disenfranchised voters feel all warm and fuzzy now?
 
2013-02-19 04:17:30 PM

OvenFreshJew: Using historical trends to say the same about an individual I could see being interpreted differently, and probably shouldn't be done, but unfortunately reality doesn't give a shiat about your feelings.


what in the unholy donkey raping fark do you think this conversation is about holy shiat
 
2013-02-19 04:17:57 PM

kingoomieiii: BSABSVR: Interestingly enough, these same people claim to want to see government run like a business.

Most would accept 50% "business" and 50% "cudgel".


Probably.  Mostly it's "Government should do everything to streamline every process I hate as much as possible.  Meanwhile, no amount of money is too high to catch 20 cases of voter fraud and a guy who traded food stamps for a lap dance."
 
2013-02-19 04:17:59 PM

Amos Quito: This news story is crazy. Everyone knows that voter fraud does not exist.

Any time the subject is raised, those voicing concerns are found to be racists - dirty stinking racists, who are trying to disenfranchise minorities.

One look at the accused, and you know that these allegations are nothing more than the work of the modern day KKK.


/This woman should receive an apology
//A cash reward for her service
And a cabinet post.


/Photo ID would not have prevented what she did
//Plenty of people say it happens, but it so rare that the proposed solutions are more distorting than the problem
///Photo ID would not have prevented what she did
/V PHOTO ID WOULD NOT HAVE PREVENTED WHAT SHE DID
PHOTO ID WOULD NOT HAVE PREVENTED WHAT SHE DID
V/ PHOTO ID WOULD NOT HAVE PREVENTED WHAT SHE DID
 
2013-02-19 04:18:01 PM

Amos Quito: This news story is crazy. Everyone knows that voter fraud does not exist.

Any time the subject is raised, those voicing concerns are found to be racists - dirty stinking racists, who are trying to disenfranchise minorities.

One look at the accused, and you know that these allegations are nothing more than the work of the modern day KKK.


/This woman should receive an apology
//A cash reward for her service
And a cabinet post.



Read the thread. The vast majority of people in this thread break down in to one of two camps:
1. People who say that the allegations against her should be investigated and she should be prosecuted if they are true and
2. So-called "conservatives" who don't seem to realize how stupid they look when they conspicuously ignore the existence of group 1 and biatch that no one wants her to be prosecuted
 
2013-02-19 04:18:36 PM

BSABSVR: You know what a business would do if they found that their losses were .0005 percent or less? Shiat themselves with glee.


Yeah, most businesses are all giddy about the idea of operating at a loss.

Do you write your boss a check every payday?
 
2013-02-19 04:18:50 PM
You are literally ignoring the entire point of this discussion in order to smugly cross your arms and say "heh.................................................................. .............................both sides are bad but not me I am super rad"
 
2013-02-19 04:19:22 PM

vygramul: Amos Quito: This news story is crazy. Everyone knows that voter fraud does not exist.

Any time the subject is raised, those voicing concerns are found to be racists - dirty stinking racists, who are trying to disenfranchise minorities.

One look at the accused, and you know that these allegations are nothing more than the work of the modern day KKK.


/This woman should receive an apology
//A cash reward for her service
And a cabinet post.

/Photo ID would not have prevented what she did
//Plenty of people say it happens, but it so rare that the proposed solutions are more distorting than the problem
///Photo ID would not have prevented what she did
/V PHOTO ID WOULD NOT HAVE PREVENTED WHAT SHE DID
V  PHOTO ID WOULD NOT HAVE PREVENTED WHAT SHE DID
V/ PHOTO ID WOULD NOT HAVE PREVENTED WHAT SHE DID


That's OK.  They'll just get rid of absentee ballots too.
 
2013-02-19 04:19:26 PM

Mrtraveler01: Onkel Buck: I keep being told voter fraud doesnt happen. Its the voter suppression we are supposed to worry about.

/Showing ID would fix both but thats too hard

If you provide the ID's free of charge, there would be no controversy. But obviously the GOP is against that for some reason.


In the state where I live - Kansas, a very VERY GOP state - anyone who needs an ID to vote can get one for free:
http://www.ksrevenue.org/pdf/DE-VID1.pdf#xml=http://search.ksrevenue. o rg/texis/search/pdfhi.txt?query=Identification+Card&pr=KSRevenue&prox= page&rorder=500&rprox=500&rdfreq=500&rwfreq=500&rlead=500&rdepth=0&suf s=0&order=r&cq=&id=5123406b41">http://www.ksrevenue.org/pdf/DE-VID1.p df#xml=http://search.ksrevenue.o rg/texis/search/pdfhi.txt?query=Identification+Card&pr=KSRevenue&prox= page&rorder=500&rprox=500&rdfreq=500&rwfreq=500&rlead=500&rdepth=0&suf s=0&order=r&cq=&id=5123406b41

If this lady filled out her in-person ballot as a Provisional ballot, there's actually no law that she broke with that single act.  If she filled it out as part of the normal voter roles who had not sent in absentee ballots then she did something wrong and needs to have the proper legal recourse applied to her.  Most likely her vote will be struck and she will be unable to be a poll worker ever again.

/Make sense to everyone?
//I'm a conservative and feel that my response to this would be the same if she was from Texas and had voted for Romney multiple times - I'm sure there are people there that did stuff like this and they ought to be prosecuted as well.
 
2013-02-19 04:20:38 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: Well, we found the one person who did it. Doesn't that make the thousands of disenfranchised voters feel all warm and fuzzy now?



"Disenfranchised voters"?

What country are you referring to?
 
2013-02-19 04:20:50 PM
Wow, I'm impressed that they had the sense to not claim that voter ID laws would have prevented this in the article.
 
2013-02-19 04:21:13 PM

Amos Quito: BSABSVR: You know what a business would do if they found that their losses were .0005 percent or less? Shiat themselves with glee.

Yeah, most businesses are all giddy about the idea of operating at a loss.

Do you write your boss a check every payday?


They don't teach you math at Stormfront?
 
2013-02-19 04:21:33 PM

vygramul: Amos Quito: This news story is crazy. Everyone knows that voter fraud does not exist.

Any time the subject is raised, those voicing concerns are found to be racists - dirty stinking racists, who are trying to disenfranchise minorities.

One look at the accused, and you know that these allegations are nothing more than the work of the modern day KKK.


/This woman should receive an apology
//A cash reward for her service
And a cabinet post.

/Photo ID would not have prevented what she did
//Plenty of people say it happens, but it so rare that the proposed solutions are more distorting than the problem
///Photo ID would not have prevented what she did
/V PHOTO ID WOULD NOT HAVE PREVENTED WHAT SHE DID
V  PHOTO ID WOULD NOT HAVE PREVENTED WHAT SHE DID
V/ PHOTO ID WOULD NOT HAVE PREVENTED WHAT SHE DID


She cast votes for 4 other people, so yeah, a photo ID law would have prevented that.
 
2013-02-19 04:22:12 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: She cast votes for 4 other people, so yeah, a photo ID law would have prevented that.


She filled out their absentee ballots.
 
2013-02-19 04:23:10 PM

BSABSVR: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: She cast votes for 4 other people, so yeah, a photo ID law would have prevented that.

She filled out their absentee ballots.


Ah, I missed that. I stand corrected.
 
2013-02-19 04:25:17 PM

mongbiohazard: Amos Quito: This news story is crazy. Everyone knows that voter fraud does not exist.

Any time the subject is raised, those voicing concerns are found to be racists - dirty stinking racists, who are trying to disenfranchise minorities.

One look at the accused, and you know that these allegations are nothing more than the work of the modern day KKK.


/This woman should receive an apology
//A cash reward for her service
And a cabinet post.


Read the thread. The vast majority of people in this thread break down in to one of two camps:
1. People who say that the allegations against her should be investigated and she should be prosecuted if they are true and
2. So-called "conservatives" who don't seem to realize how stupid they look when they conspicuously ignore the existence of group 1 and biatch that no one wants her to be prosecuted



Oh yes! We must investigate and prosecute this one (incredibly stupid big-mouthed) woman - they'll say.

Propose measures to prevent such fraud in the future, and they'll call you a RACIST.
 
2013-02-19 04:25:30 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: Look, I read Fark.  We all know that if there's any voter fraud going on, it's ALL being done by republicans and evil diebold machines.  Any other story doesn't fit that narrative, so please kindly remove this one from the interwebz.


You finally found one by a Democrat. Congratulations to you I guess.
 
2013-02-19 04:27:11 PM

djh0101010: Because then, stay with me here, you see if anyone voted with the same ID more than once, and deal with them.
"Hey there, college student, I see you voted on campus, but you also voted absentee in your parents' district, what's up with that?"


How would photo ID help with absentee ballots? What, would you include a photo of yourself holding your photo ID in the application for the ballot?

OvenFreshJew: How ridiculous. If I asked you right now which candi


I'm not taking ANY racism tips from "OvenFreshJew".
 
2013-02-19 04:27:54 PM

BSABSVR: Amos Quito: BSABSVR: You know what a business would do if they found that their losses were .0005 percent or less? Shiat themselves with glee.

Yeah, most businesses are all giddy about the idea of operating at a loss.

Do you write your boss a check every payday?



They don't teach you math at Stormfront?


So you surrender? Game over?

Fine by me, BSABSVR.
 
2013-02-19 04:28:45 PM

Amos Quito: The Irresponsible Captain: Well, we found the one person who did it. Doesn't that make the thousands of disenfranchised voters feel all warm and fuzzy now?


"Disenfranchised voters"?

What country are you referring to?


http://www.aarp.org/politics-society/government-elections/info-01-20 12 /voter-id-laws-impact-older-americans.html
 
2013-02-19 04:30:03 PM

Amos Quito: The Irresponsible Captain: Well, we found the one person who did it. Doesn't that make the thousands of disenfranchised voters feel all warm and fuzzy now?


"Disenfranchised voters"?

What country are you referring to?


I forgot we re-defined the word.
 
2013-02-19 04:31:12 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: The solution is obvious:  Shoot all the Democrats in Ohio.  Every last one of them.


Why limit it to Ohio?
 
2013-02-19 04:31:57 PM

Amos Quito: BSABSVR: Amos Quito: BSABSVR: You know what a business would do if they found that their losses were .0005 percent or less? Shiat themselves with glee.

Yeah, most businesses are all giddy about the idea of operating at a loss.

Do you write your boss a check every payday?


They don't teach you math at Stormfront?


So you surrender? Game over?

Fine by me, BSABSVR.


In all serious, any business would be thrilled beyond belief to peg their administrative losses (mis-filed paperwork, shipping errors, overpaid postage, etc) at 0.005%.

Also, you are the most anti-Semitic motherfarker on this whole site, so there's that.
 
2013-02-19 04:33:03 PM
vygramul: /Photo ID would not have prevented what she did
//Plenty of people say it happens, but it so rare that the proposed solutions are more distorting than the problem
///Photo ID would not have prevented what she did
/V PHOTO ID WOULD NOT HAVE PREVENTED WHAT SHE DID
V  PHOTO ID WOULD NOT HAVE PREVENTED WHAT SHE DID
V/ PHOTO ID WOULD NOT HAVE PREVENTED WHAT SHE DID


If you could clarify -- So you're saying that mandatory photo ID laws would have prevented this? How so?
 
2013-02-19 04:44:38 PM
To the leftists what she did was ok because she did it for one of their own B.O.  Election fraud is wrong no matter who does it or who is helped by it.
 
2013-02-19 04:46:17 PM
Voter IDs will not work. All Democrats look alike to Republicans.
 
2013-02-19 04:46:31 PM

Amos Quito: mongbiohazard: Amos Quito: This news story is crazy. Everyone knows that voter fraud does not exist.

Any time the subject is raised, those voicing concerns are found to be racists - dirty stinking racists, who are trying to disenfranchise minorities.

One look at the accused, and you know that these allegations are nothing more than the work of the modern day KKK.


/This woman should receive an apology
//A cash reward for her service
And a cabinet post.


Read the thread. The vast majority of people in this thread break down in to one of two camps:
1. People who say that the allegations against her should be investigated and she should be prosecuted if they are true and
2. So-called "conservatives" who don't seem to realize how stupid they look when they conspicuously ignore the existence of group 1 and biatch that no one wants her to be prosecuted


Oh yes! We must investigate and prosecute this one (incredibly stupid big-mouthed) woman - they'll say.

Propose measures to prevent such fraud in the future, and they'll call you a RACIST.


Actual this woman and 18 others. And there are already laws to handle what they did - hence the investigations - so no proposals are necessary. Which is good, because what is generally being proposed are all blatant partisan attempts to disenfranchise voters along partisan lines if we're feeling generous, and along racist lines if we're not.

Considering the proposals would generally discourage or disenfranchise thousands in order to stop less than 20 cases of fraud which have *already been caught*, I'm not sure there is any other rational way for a non-partisan to view these suggestions. If the fraud was both not already covered by existing statutes and not immaterial then there might be a point and those suggestions might not be reasonably viewed as having ulterior motives. But they are, so there it is.
 
2013-02-19 04:51:57 PM

PaLarkin: To the leftists what she did was ok because she did it for one of their own B.O.  Election fraud is wrong no matter who does it or who is helped by it.


What leftists exactly? Because the leftists I see in this thread are all in agreement that she should be prosecuted if the allegations are true.

So are you just hallucinating imaginary leftist strawmen or are you just new to the English language and unable to understand what words mean? I suspect the former. I think you find it easier to confirm your biases when you can just imagine things that don't exist that fit better with the fiction you'be chosen to believe. Acknowledging reality would require a readjustment to your worldview and that sounds hard, doesn't it?
 
2013-02-19 04:53:37 PM

kingoomieiii: Also, you are the most anti-Semitic motherfarker on this whole site, so there's that.



Let's see...

I voted for Obama (but only once), and Bibi Netanyahu HATES Obama (as does most of Israel), so I guess you deduce from this that I am the "most anti-Semitic motherfarker on this whole site".

Is that about right, kingoomieiii?
 
2013-02-19 04:53:54 PM
Jackson Herring
what in the unholy donkey raping fark do you think this conversation is about holy shiat

There is a world of difference between saying something probably shouldn't be done, and saying that doing so makes the person a racist.
 
2013-02-19 04:55:44 PM

PaLarkin: To the leftists what she did was ok


which leftists exactly
 
2013-02-19 04:56:15 PM
kingoomieiii
I'm not taking ANY racism tips from "OvenFreshJew".

Onward with your blindness to reality then my good fellow. Reminds me of another group of folks...
 
2013-02-19 04:56:23 PM

OvenFreshJew: Jackson Herring
what in the unholy donkey raping fark do you think this conversation is about holy shiat

There is a world of difference between saying something probably shouldn't be done, and saying that doing so makes the person a racist.


Holding explicitly racist viewpoints or saying explicitly racist statements does in fact make one a racist, sorry :(
 
2013-02-19 05:00:18 PM

PaLarkin: To the leftists what she did was ok because she did it for one of their own B.O.  Election fraud is wrong no matter who does it or who is helped by it.


Who is saying what she did is ok?
 
2013-02-19 05:03:27 PM

OvenFreshJew: Jackson Herring
what in the unholy donkey raping fark do you think this conversation is about holy shiat

There is a world of difference between saying something probably shouldn't be done, and saying that doing so makes the person a racist.



RACE CARDS are cheap, and there's an endless supply.

They are invaluable to idiots (and lowbrow lazy farks) who find themselves unable to form a cogent argument, and as a contrived snorkel for hard-core partisans who refuse to abandon ship even when the waves are washing over their eyeballs.

The only cheaper and easier card is the ANTI-SEMITE CARD - which can be played at any time and for any reason, or for no reason at all.

Just ask kingoomieiii.
 
2013-02-19 05:04:05 PM
Jackson Herring

I see that you're too stupid to be redeemed. My apologies.
 
2013-02-19 05:06:15 PM
Alright - late to the party but here's my very humble opinion:

- We need to make it as easy as possible for everyone to legally vote.  In every election/primary/referrendum - period.
- There are seniors and individuals with limited education/means/transportation that need to be accommodated to the best of society's ability.  I don't have the answer to how this can be accomplished but it needs to not get lost in the shuffle.  As I posted above, my state mandates ID's but will give you them for free.  If everything is working right, everyone who needs an ID should be able to get one without a hassle.
- We need to make it as hard as possible to break the law.  It's 2013 for fark's sake.  People all over the world can log into sites like this and see your latest Looty shoop one minute after you post it.  You mean to tell me a voter ID law and effective voter roll software as well as networked polling locations wouldn't improve this situation AND ensure everyone gets a voice?
- As I said, I'm conservative fiscally and socially but tend to the Libertarian side.  If the result of better voter turnout and lawful voting is a Democrat majority then, yea verily, the people truly have spoken.

/I know I'm asking too much, but can we stop using labels like Libtards and Republiturds.  It's truly asinine in the fullest sense of the word.
 
2013-02-19 05:07:26 PM
that's racist!
 
2013-02-19 05:10:13 PM

Jackson Herring: Oh wow so someone actually beat me to the joke about "likely obama voters" except they were not joking. It is not fark, it is blatant racism dot com


If you've seen the turn out numbers by race it's just called playing the odds.
 
2013-02-19 05:10:44 PM
Idiot... You just *do* it. You don't talk about it.
 
2013-02-19 05:18:10 PM
Of course thya did how else you think that fool could have won i mean what surprize
 
2013-02-19 05:18:28 PM

Amos Quito: kingoomieiii: Also, you are the most anti-Semitic motherfarker on this whole site, so there's that.


Let's see...

I voted for Obama (but only once), and Bibi Netanyahu HATES Obama (as does most of Israel), so I guess you deduce from this that I am the "most anti-Semitic motherfarker on this whole site".

Is that about right, kingoomieiii?


No, it was basically the time you outlined very clearly how you believe the holocaust was provoked.
 
2013-02-19 05:21:42 PM
Read the thread. The vast majority of people in this thread break down in to one of two camps:
1. People who say that the allegations against her should be investigated and she should be prosecuted if they are true and
2. So-called "conservatives" who don't seem to realize how stupid they look when they conspicuously ignore the existence of group 1 and biatch that no one wants her to be prosecuted

You forgot the third group: liberals who believe this is all made up and a GOP plot.
 
2013-02-19 05:22:21 PM

OvenFreshJew: Jackson Herring
what in the unholy donkey raping fark do you think this conversation is about holy shiat

There is a world of difference between saying something probably shouldn't be done, and saying that doing so makes the person a racist.


If you find yourself doing things that seem sort of racist, to the point that you think "I probably shouldn't have done that", it might occur to you that you did it because you're racist.
 
2013-02-19 05:25:29 PM

sweet jeez: Of course thya did how else you think that fool could have won i mean what surprize


You accidentally the whole thing, like such as.
 
2013-02-19 05:29:34 PM
What a horrible person. This is clearly not made up.

Unlike this story

It's only bad when it's one person committing fraud, and when they're a Democrat.
 
2013-02-19 05:30:10 PM

kingoomieiii: Amos Quito


And just so we're on the same page, the government of Israel is more full of reactionaries than ours, somehow, and I wish our government would stop patting them on the back as they slowly annex the nicer parts of the surrounding region.

And if I hear how the treatment of native americans 200 years ago bars the US from opposing Israel's CURRENT actions one more time, I might lose it.
 
2013-02-19 05:30:55 PM

Amos Quito: BSABSVR: Amos Quito: BSABSVR: You know what a business would do if they found that their losses were .0005 percent or less? Shiat themselves with glee.

Yeah, most businesses are all giddy about the idea of operating at a loss.

Do you write your boss a check every payday?


They don't teach you math at Stormfront?


So you surrender? Game over?

Fine by me, BSABSVR.


They don't teach you to read at Stormfront either?  How do you intend to be all race-realist if all you know how to do is drive to Arby's and order a number 3?  U mean unless being a race-realist involves being a dumb, fat motherfarker.  In that case  you are 2/3 of the way  there minimum.
 
2013-02-19 05:32:12 PM

BSABSVR: They don't teach you to read at Stormfront either?  How do you intend to be all race-realist if all you know how to do is drive to Arby's and order a number 3?  U mean unless being a race-realist involves being a dumb, fat motherfarker.  In that case  you are 2/3 of the way  there minimum.


www.sogoodblog.com

Come on now. Less style, more substance.
 
2013-02-19 05:33:51 PM
Amos either has been given tony4144whatever style protection, or thinks we are all black and need to know our place, based on his new, weird faux aggression.  It's funny.
 
2013-02-19 05:34:10 PM

DogBoyTheCat: Read the thread. The vast majority of people in this thread break down in to one of two camps:
1. People who say that the allegations against her should be investigated and she should be prosecuted if they are true and
2. So-called "conservatives" who don't seem to realize how stupid they look when they conspicuously ignore the existence of group 1 and biatch that no one wants her to be prosecuted

You forgot the third group: liberals who believe this is all made up and a GOP plot.


Like who?
 
2013-02-19 05:37:28 PM
Fox news gets the right report.. but fails to ask the correct question... which is obviously "isn't this how president bush won twice?"
 
2013-02-19 05:41:40 PM

mongbiohazard: Like who?


Me, at first. I'm coming around to the idea that this woman actually is a GDI, and I have full confidence that her trial will be fairly conducted by the Republican team on the case and won't turn into a race-baiting media circus like the Obama-phone lady, aired night after night on Fox News amidst another round of voter ID legislation is states with below-average high school completion rates.

No, wait, just the first part about her being a god damn idiot.
 
2013-02-19 05:42:06 PM
Fox news has proved that voter fraud favoring Obama is now real.  I feel validated.

Now can we get get back to the legal business of restricting voting hours, requiring ID, closing down DVM stations, ect.

/Actually if she did knowingly break the law the DA should go for it.
 
2013-02-19 05:43:44 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: ok libs, I got it.

There should be no news articles much less prosecutions about anything related to election issues unless it is proven that something swung the election.


If that's what you gleaned, then your reading comprehension skills suck.
 
2013-02-19 05:51:37 PM

kingoomieiii: Amos Quito: kingoomieiii: Also, you are the most anti-Semitic motherfarker on this whole site, so there's that.


Let's see...

I voted for Obama (but only once), and Bibi Netanyahu HATES Obama (as does most of Israel), so I guess you deduce from this that I am the "most anti-Semitic motherfarker on this whole site".

Is that about right, kingoomieiii?

No, it was basically the time you outlined very clearly how you believe the holocaust was provoked.



Sorry, but I'm not going to bite at your trollish attempt at threadjacking, kingoomieiii.

But I do thank you for linking to that post. Everything I said there is factually and historically correct. I suggest you read the entire thread (an others like it) and do a bit of independent research - check the facts for yourself. I think you'll find it the effort highly educational.
 
2013-02-19 05:55:22 PM

vsavatar: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: rufus-t-firefly: tenpoundsofcheese:
FTA:   She appears to have used her position as a poll worker to cover her tracks.

And she did a bad job at the whole track covering part.

And yet, even without a voter ID system she's being investigated. It's almost as if the current laws work.

Now, if we require you to show ID for all gun purchases - well, that's just a horrible infringement on your rights.

Right?

In my state, I have to show an ID to buy a gun. I also have to show an ID to vote. It has not stopped me from doing either.

You're not homeless living off the streets with no money in your pocket to pay for said ID, nor pay for the documents required to get said ID, (birth certificate) nor do you have a problem with the other documents which require you to have a valid mailing address to get said ID (utility bills are the most common used in Michigan).  Therefore, I would not expect that you would have a problem doing either.  For those people that don't have a home, who don't have money to buy their birth certificate and who don't have utility bills or other documents showing a valid mailing address, I would expect their story to be somewhat different.  Does that mean they should not have the right to vote?


If a person has no permanent address, how does one determine his proper polling location?
 
2013-02-19 05:56:53 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: She cast votes for 4 other people, so yeah, a photo ID law would have prevented that.


They check ID at the mailbox before you drop absentee ballots into it?

Or do you have to swipe a photo ID on the ballot itself?

I'm fascinated how a photo ID matters in mailed-in fraud.
 
2013-02-19 05:59:13 PM

trey101: if it is true this is a serious problem... what happens when a Repub beats a Dem due to voter fraud?


There's been quite a few studies that show voter fraud is and pretty much always has been statistically insignificant in federal elections.

Mostly because voter fraud at an individual level in the federal elections is completely retarded.
 
2013-02-19 06:00:53 PM
t2.gstatic.com

vote democrat
 
2013-02-19 06:07:54 PM

BSABSVR: Amos either has been given tony4144whatever style protection, or thinks we are all black and need to know our place, based on his new, weird faux aggression.  It's funny.


Yeah, I'm such a racist.

Why don't you check out my posts in this thread, and get back to me on that?
 
2013-02-19 06:09:34 PM

BSABSVR: Interestingly enough, these same people claim to want to see government run like a business.  You know what a business would do if they found that their losses were .0005 percent or less?  Shiat themselves with glee.


You're comparing apples to coffee mugs.  If we had a 0.0005% failure rate in my job, thousands would be dead and we'd all be fired.
 
2013-02-19 06:14:47 PM
I am a poll worker in MD, where an ID is not required.  We are not even to ask for one, if a person hands us an ID we can use to look up there registration because it makes it much easier.

Still had a bunch of people whining that we should ask for there ID.

/a bigger issue was people who wanted to vote but hadn't bothered to register.
 
2013-02-19 06:19:28 PM

kingoomieiii: Me, at first. I'm coming around to the idea that this woman actually is a GDI


www.mobygames.com

Get out there and vote, commander!
 
2013-02-19 06:20:58 PM
vygramul:   I'm fascinated how a photo ID matters in mailed-in fraud.

Because ACORN, and like such as.
 
2013-02-19 06:23:18 PM

maudibjr: /a bigger issue was people who wanted to vote but hadn't bothered to register.


I think this is a huge problem. I think our goal should be 100% registration, and 100% participation. I think we should be able to get a list of all the people in our neighborhood who didn't vote, so that we can go knock on their door and ask why they hate democracy.

I'm serious.   Well, I'm joking about the door knocking thing, but otherwise I'm serious.
 
2013-02-19 06:23:31 PM

Amos Quito: BSABSVR: Amos either has been given tony4144whatever style protection, or thinks we are all black and need to know our place, based on his new, weird faux aggression.  It's funny.

Yeah, I'm such a racist.

Why don't you check out my posts in this thread, and get back to me on that?


Sure, as soon as you get back to your posts in this thread and get back to me on that
 
2013-02-19 06:26:17 PM

Amos Quito: BSABSVR: Amos either has been given tony4144whatever style protection, or thinks we are all black and need to know our place, based on his new, weird faux aggression.  It's funny.

Yeah, I'm such a racist.

Why don't you check out my posts in this thread, and get back to me on that?


And of course you have empathy for Dorner.  I mean, the Jew uses the black as muscle against you.
 
2013-02-19 06:39:40 PM

BSABSVR: Amos Quito: BSABSVR: Amos either has been given tony4144whatever style protection, or thinks we are all black and need to know our place, based on his new, weird faux aggression.  It's funny.

Yeah, I'm such a racist.

Why don't you check out my posts in this thread, and get back to me on that?

Sure, as soon as you get back to your posts in this thread and get back to me on that


Egads, what's in that one? I read a bunch of the holocaust thread of his someone else linked earlier and that was bad enough. He did always seem anti-semetic, but that thread with the Jews supposedly provoking the Holocaust puts his anti-semitism beyond all doubt. What's this new one do? I don't plan on going through another thread full of awful stupid to get the picture that he's racist...
 
2013-02-19 06:40:22 PM

kingoomieiii: djh0101010: Because then, stay with me here, you see if anyone voted with the same ID more than once, and deal with them.
"Hey there, college student, I see you voted on campus, but you also voted absentee in your parents' district, what's up with that?"

How would photo ID help with absentee ballots? What, would you include a photo of yourself holding your photo ID in the application for the ballot?


Well, around these parts, a state issued photo ID comes with an ID number on it.
 
2013-02-19 06:41:34 PM
kingoomieiii

If you find yourself doing things that seem sort of racist, to the point that you think "I probably shouldn't have done that", it might occur to you that you did it because you're racist.

You seem to be purposely obtuse. If you drove me by a trailer park I could safely say that the people living there are likely poor. If you show me an individual from said trailer park it would be inappropriate (i.e. rude, insensitive, etc.) to say that individual is likely poor. That doesn't mean it wouldn't be an accurate statement though.
 
2013-02-19 06:42:06 PM

St_Francis_P: kingoomieiii: I'll bet this really happened and isn't a lie.

That was the first thing I wondered. Most people don't brag to the press about voting fraud.


She might very well be to stupid to realise what she did was immoral and illegal.

---

How can you even vote twice? Your absentee ballot ought to be checked against a list of people who voted in person. If you showed up to vote, don't count the absentee ballot.
 
2013-02-19 06:50:24 PM

BSABSVR: Amos Quito: BSABSVR: Amos either has been given tony4144whatever style protection, or thinks we are all black and need to know our place, based on his new, weird faux aggression.  It's funny.

Yeah, I'm such a racist.

Why don't you check out my posts in this thread, and get back to me on that?

Sure, as soon as you get back to your posts in this thread and get back to me on that



I just re-read every post I made in that thread, and I'll be damned if I can find anything that might possibly be construed as "racist".

Would you care to be more specific (you know - actual quotes with  kinks to specific posts)?

Or are you just shooting ad hominem blanks?
 
2013-02-19 06:52:49 PM

mongbiohazard: Egads, what's in that one?


"More in sorrow than anger" style posts about how violent the black race is.
 
2013-02-19 06:57:10 PM

spawn73: How can you even vote twice? Your absentee ballot ought to be checked against a list of people who voted in person. If you showed up to vote, don't count the absentee ballot.


That's how I understand it works in most states, yes.
 
2013-02-19 07:01:37 PM

Amos Quito: I just re-read every post I made in that thread, and I'll be damned if I can find anything that might possibly be construed as "racist".


Then I'm not going to play your semantic games with you.  You're not the first racist I've met online.  You're not even the first on Fark.  You feel that so long as you don't make racial slurs, it's not racist.  I've seen the it's not racism, it's race-realism bit before from you.  Not particularly interested in this game.

Amos Quito: Or are you just shooting ad hominem blanks?


You really REALLY need to learn what things mean.
 
2013-02-19 07:05:17 PM

mongbiohazard: BSABSVR: Amos Quito: BSABSVR: Amos either has been given tony4144whatever style protection, or thinks we are all black and need to know our place, based on his new, weird faux aggression.  It's funny.

Yeah, I'm such a racist.

Why don't you check out my posts in this thread, and get back to me on that?

Sure, as soon as you get back to your posts in this thread and get back to me on that

Egads, what's in that one? I read a bunch of the holocaust thread of his someone else linked earlier and that was bad enough. He did always seem anti-semetic, but that thread with the Jews supposedly provoking the Holocaust puts his anti-semitism beyond all doubt.


No, you didn't read the thread, mongbiohazard.

If you had you couldn't possibly have come away with the conclusion you claim to have reached.


Read this post from that thread (and the one above it).

Then share you thoughts on George's insights.
 
2013-02-19 07:14:09 PM

BSABSVR: Amos Quito: I just re-read every post I made in that thread, and I'll be damned if I can find anything that might possibly be construed as "racist".

Then I'm not going to play your semantic games with you.  You're not the first racist I've met online.  You're not even the first on Fark.  You feel that so long as you don't make racial slurs, it's not racist.  I've seen the it's not racism, it's race-realism bit before from you.  Not particularly interested in this game.

Amos Quito: Or are you just shooting ad hominem blanks?

You really REALLY need to learn what things mean.



WHAT IT MEANS, BSABSVR, is that you are done. Your "argument" is finished, kaput, pooped-out.

You can't discuss the topics at hand with even a shred of logic or reason (let alone credibility) so you opt for argumentum ad homenim  - argument to the man (me), which MEANS that you think you distract attention from your helpless, futile, impotent flailing by labeling me as a "racist".

But you can't.

You should have quit earlier, while you could have walked away with a shred, BSABSVR.
 
2013-02-19 07:25:34 PM
SIGH

The whole thing is a scam. We do not count. Our votes do not count. Not when it comes to any office at the federal level, anyway.

The people who are in control-- the corporations, the wealthy elite, the plutocrats-- They pick the candidates and they place them in position. They maintain the appearance of an election because it makes the people feel like they have some choice... some power. It's all bullshiat. The President is selected and appointed. Congress and Senate also enjoy that privilege. We have no choices.
 
2013-02-19 07:48:34 PM

ZeroCorpse: SIGH

The whole thing is a scam. We do not count. Our votes do not count. Not when it comes to any office at the federal level, anyway.

The people who are in control-- the corporations, the wealthy elite, the plutocrats-- They pick the candidates and they place them in position. They maintain the appearance of an election because it makes the people feel like they have some choice... some power. It's all bullshiat. The President is selected and appointed. Congress and Senate also enjoy that privilege. We have no choices.


So, what you're saying is that, even though we get to pick our favorite clown, it doesn't change who owns the circus?
 
2013-02-19 07:50:39 PM

djh0101010: Well, around these parts, a state issued photo ID comes with an ID number on it.


And you need to fill out your personal information, including either your voter registration number or your social, to get an absentee ballot at all.

OvenFreshJew: If you show me an individual from said trailer park it would be inappropriate (i.e. rude, insensitive, etc.) to say that individual is likely poor. That doesn't mean it wouldn't be an accurate statement though.


I'd love to see someone try to defend themselves after saying "That black guy's probably a criminal, you can't trust him" with "I mean... statistically speaking".
 
2013-02-19 07:52:49 PM

Amos Quito: You can't discuss the topics at hand with even a shred of logic or reason (let alone credibility) so you opt for argumentum ad homenim  - argument to the man (me), which MEANS that you think you distract attention from your helpless, futile, impotent flailing by labeling me as a "racist".

But you can't.

You should have quit earlier, while you could have walked away with a shred, BSABSVR.


You're actually correct here, but your tone is pompous enough to make me chuckle. This is FARK, not parliament.
 
2013-02-19 08:12:15 PM

quatchi: Richardson claimed she had submitted an absentee ballot, but was afraid her vote would not count so she also voted in person. She also said she voted in the name of her granddaughter and yet another person.

"There was absolutely no intent on my part to commit any voter fraud," she insisted.

*facepalm*

If she actually did this and said this throw the book at her.

Twice.


This should be a capitol offense.
 
2013-02-19 08:19:14 PM

Amos Quito: mongbiohazard: BSABSVR: Amos Quito: BSABSVR: Amos either has been given tony4144whatever style protection, or thinks we are all black and need to know our place, based on his new, weird faux aggression.  It's funny.

Yeah, I'm such a racist.

Why don't you check out my posts in this thread, and get back to me on that?

Sure, as soon as you get back to your posts in this thread and get back to me on that

Egads, what's in that one? I read a bunch of the holocaust thread of his someone else linked earlier and that was bad enough. He did always seem anti-semetic, but that thread with the Jews supposedly provoking the Holocaust puts his anti-semitism beyond all doubt.

No, you didn't read the thread, mongbiohazard.

If you had you couldn't possibly have come away with the conclusion you claim to have reached.


Read this post from that thread (and the one above it).

Then share you thoughts on George's insights.



Yes I did, and I had actually given you the benefit of the doubt for a few months now.... but after reading that thread I can see I was woefully mistaken to have done so. You're seriously anti-semitic, you've layered on enough bullshiat on top of it that you've fooled yourself in to thinking it's some kind of idealistic sophistication... but all that is bullshiat. You're deeply, blatantly, anti-semitic.
 
2013-02-19 08:37:54 PM
Jesus, people. Would y'all PLEASE stop quoting that dumb asshole ten pounds of traitorous lies?
 
2013-02-19 08:57:28 PM
isn't this why the liberals fought so hard to prevent ID from being required to vote?
 
2013-02-19 09:04:04 PM

Popular Opinion: isn't this why the liberals fought so hard to prevent ID from being required to vote?


what does voter ID have to do with absentee ballots, for the twentieth time in the thread
 
2013-02-19 10:24:18 PM
www.freedomfeens.com

Applies to everyone!!!  Dems, Repubs, all races, all creeds, all walks of life.. except if you're ultra wealthy and powerful.  TOTALLY different rules for you then.
 
2013-02-19 10:42:37 PM

Popular Opinion: isn't this why the liberals fought so hard to prevent ID from being required to vote?


Yes - because ID woulnd not have helped here, since it wasn't in-person fraud, and so it is a worthless law.
 
2013-02-19 10:44:34 PM
rufus-t-firefly:
Now, if we require you to show ID for all gun purchases - well, that's just a horrible infringement on your rights.

Right?


Hmm, I live in a state that is quite gun friendly, and guess what......I HAD TO SUBMIT MY ID FOR A BACKGROUND CHECK. Why do libtards think that you can go to any gun store and not have an ID and get a farking gun?

/ Yes I know the gun show loophole
//Yes You should have to show identification any time you purchase a fire arm
/// and yea, you should have an ID to farking Vote, just like cigarettes, booze, and many other things vagrants love.
 
2013-02-19 11:07:54 PM

AdrienVeidt: Jesus, people. Would y'all PLEASE stop quoting that dumb asshole ten pounds of traitorous lies?


Honest question. I've seen the word "traitorous" used a few times here on Fark, and I'm wondering why it's being used. I'm relatively new here, so you probably know more about Mr. or Ms. Cheese than I do, but what makes this person's opinion traitorous?

I've seen reprehensible things said by members if both major parties in my life, and I'm not trying to defend any of it. I'm just wondering, why such a strong, and meaningful, word?

Thanks for considering my question.
 
2013-02-19 11:09:57 PM
Said it before, and I'll say it again.  The only reason we don't have anarchy is because of the mutual trust in the rule of procedure and law we all rely upon.  Incidences like this degrade that trust, just as conspiracists believe conservatives monkey with the voting machines.

What is so wrong about tightening up the entire process, from asking for a valid ID, to marking paper ballots that can be audited after automated tallying, to clamping down on unsupervised voter drives & absentee ballots?

We all have a vested interest in voting integrity--otherwise we're no better than some banana republic.
 
2013-02-19 11:23:34 PM
Lock her up.
 
2013-02-19 11:25:05 PM
That's funny. Seems like everyone still has HOPEtm, and believes Obama can create some CHANGEtm
 
2013-02-20 12:14:19 AM
No one cares because as long as YOUR GUY "wins" it's all good.  There are too few real, honest citizens left.  Everyone just thinks it's a big stupid football game at this point.

The people who vote 6 times aren't the problem... it's the people who vote zero times that are the problem.
 
2013-02-20 01:38:12 AM
Uh huh.
 
2013-02-20 02:03:07 AM

Amos Quito: WHAT IT MEANS, BSABSVR, is that you are done. Your "argument" is finished, kaput, pooped-out.


YOU ARE THE ONES WHO ARE THE BALL LICKERS!

Since you are looking up logical fallacies, look up argument by assertion.  Then look in the mirror.  Then weep.
 
2013-02-20 07:30:18 AM

kingoomieiii: Billygoat Gruff: You're offended, so you must be right.

I'm really not kidding, please propose and explain a scenario where I can put threatening signs up targeting specific races or ethnic groups because I believe them to be a higher-than-normal risk for an extremely rare crime, based on no evidence, without being an absolutely unconscionable racist.

You know, like you.


Meh, I disagree with you so it automatically makes me a racist, there can be no other reason I think you're full of it, it has to be racism. Do you ever get tired of being a victim?
 
2013-02-20 10:55:16 AM
God I love the main page.
 
2013-02-20 11:22:40 AM

mongbiohazard: Yes I did, and I had actually given you the benefit of the doubt for a few months now.... but after reading that thread I can see I was woefully mistaken



Take heart, lad.

You still are.
 
2013-02-20 06:56:58 PM
First of all, please disregard any poster in this thread positing that voter fraud is 'insignificant' or that this was an 'isolated incident;' for they know not of what they speak. And that this woman was caught FOUR MONTHS AFTER THE FACT does not 'prove' that the 'system worked.' It actually 'proves' that the system failed. Miserably.

Also note, the republicans lost the last election. If the democrats had lost the last election, we'd be having this exact same argument, only the sides would be switched. Such is the way of American politics I guess.
 
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