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(Topeka Capital-Journal)   Conservative Kansas lawmakers propose "cost of living increase"--on lobbyist gifts. In other news, Kansas state employees haven't gotten a raise in eight years   (cjonline.com) divider line 52
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2013-02-19 11:08:34 AM
I am the lobbyiest lobbyist that every lobbied for some corporate assholes.  Show me the money, subby!
 
2013-02-19 11:08:38 AM
Wow.  That's all.
 
2013-02-19 11:10:34 AM
Why, that's the lobbyiest thing I've ever heard!
 
2013-02-19 11:11:11 AM
And a meme is born.
 
2013-02-19 11:11:35 AM
Lobby, lobbyer, lobbyiest?
 
2013-02-19 11:11:55 AM
Come on, Fark. Give Kansas its own tag finally. We've got to be more moronic than Florida at this point.
 
2013-02-19 11:12:06 AM
So it is legal to accept a gift in exchange for certain services? Hookers.... next stop Kansas!
 
2013-02-19 11:12:39 AM
It sure must be getting hard to pretend anymore.
 
2013-02-19 11:13:56 AM
Carry on my wayward son!!!
 
2013-02-19 11:14:18 AM

Into the blue again: So it is legal to accept a gift in exchange for certain services? Hookers.... next stop Kansas!


Bribery is legal as long as you report it and pay the appropriate taxes
 
2013-02-19 11:14:42 AM
If the state employees wanted legalize bribes they should bootstrap better state positions.
 
2013-02-19 11:15:43 AM
State employees are just "big govt" parasites
//legislators are truly valuable, necessary entities.
 
2013-02-19 11:16:58 AM
Soooo... we'll see some real governance by the Democrats, for a change, and the total outlawing of gifts from lobbyists, riiiiiight?
 
2013-02-19 11:17:28 AM
LOL, nice little fief they're running down there.
 
2013-02-19 11:17:51 AM

Lost Thought 00: Into the blue again: So it is legal to accept a gift in exchange for certain services? Hookers.... next stop Kansas!

Bribery is legal as long as you report it and pay the appropriate taxes


Jeez.... thanks for raining on my joke Debbie Downer.

/I keeeeed I keeeeed
//Kansas tag, now!
///Slashies come in threes!
 
2013-02-19 11:19:00 AM

Into the blue again: So it is legal to accept a gift in exchange for certain services? Hookers.... next stop Kansas!


I would strongly recommend avoiding the services of a hooker that charges $15/day.
 
2013-02-19 11:19:06 AM
FTFA:
From a lobbyist:  "I'm all for reporting and transparency. I'm more trying to minimize the paperwork." 

Dude, tell me how you can have transparency without reporting and paperwork.
 
2013-02-19 11:19:19 AM

Teufelaffe: Lobby, lobbyer, lobbyiest?


Lobby:
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Lobbier:
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Lobbiest:
i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-19 11:20:21 AM

HAMMERTOE: Soooo... we'll see some real governance by the Democrats, for a change, and the total outlawing of gifts from lobbyists, riiiiiight?


1.) Kansas is run by Republicans, majority everywhere
2.) I assume Dems make the same amount off lobbyists as repubs
3.) Neither one wants the gravy train to go away
 
2013-02-19 11:21:10 AM

FloydA: Teufelaffe: Lobby, lobbyer, lobbyiest?

Lobby:
[i105.photobucket.com image 640x480]

Lobbier:
[i105.photobucket.com image 491x329]

Lobbiest:
[i105.photobucket.com image 640x426]


Everyone go home, Floyd has won the thread.
 
2013-02-19 11:22:41 AM

urbangirl: FTFA:
From a lobbyist:  "I'm all for reporting and transparency. I'm more trying to minimize the paperwork." 

Dude, tell me how you can have transparency without reporting and paperwork.


Exactly, their job is basically legalized bribery, and they whine about some red tape.  Bunch o' assholes.
 
2013-02-19 11:27:36 AM

HAMMERTOE: Soooo... we'll see some real governance by the Democrats, for a change, and the total outlawing of gifts from lobbyists, riiiiiight?


Maybe both Republicans and Democrats should start demanding campaign finance reform, so we can get rid of this corruption entirely.

Do you agree? I could link some Lessig lectures you might enjoy.
 
2013-02-19 11:29:23 AM
"An awkward situation arises when you take a legislator and his or her spouse to, for instance, a football game," Murray said. "Those tickets are priced between $55 and $75 or $85 each," Murray said. "Under the current law the legislator must reimburse me for the amount over $99.99 because the spouse is included in the $100 limit."

So to persuade a lawmaker to support a bill, you cannot just meet with them in their office and explain the merits of the legislation, you have to take them and their spouse to a football game.

How is that not bribery?
 
2013-02-19 11:36:49 AM
"and gifts to legislators' spouses don't count toward the annual limits"

Huh. I don't see any way to misuse that, no siree.
 
2013-02-19 11:37:37 AM
I really want kansas to collapse. Not to hurt individuals there, but to highlight how ridiculous their policies have been.
 
2013-02-19 11:38:12 AM

monoski: State employees are just "big govt" parasites
//legislators are truly valuable, necessary entities.


And lobbyists are job creators.

/they create lobbying jobs, after all
 
2013-02-19 11:42:00 AM
Maybe I slept through civics class those years ago... but isn't lobbying just another word for bribing?  They're spending money on these legislators to get them to vote a certain way, right?  That's bribing.  Or do I have this entire thing wrong?
 
2013-02-19 11:43:10 AM
A smart Democrat should introduce a bill to lower the amount to one cent before itemized disclosures are required. It'd never pass and it would magnify the greedy, scumbag majority party. Then again, we're talking about Kansas. They can probably cite a bible verse that condones bribery.
 
2013-02-19 11:44:43 AM

Darke: Maybe I slept through civics class those years ago... but isn't lobbying just another word for bribing?  They're spending money on these legislators to get them to vote a certain way, right?  That's bribing.  Or do I have this entire thing wrong?


Obviously my point is : Isn't it illegal? Kind of how bribing cops to get out of a ticket is?
 
2013-02-19 11:45:44 AM
Farking corrupt assholes.

Kansas politics are run by the farking Koch brothers anyway.

/No income taxes on professionals
//decreased school funding
///increased sales taxes
////Brownback 2016
 
2013-02-19 11:48:34 AM
Republicans have maintained that government is ineffective and Kansas is just trying to prove them correct.
 
2013-02-19 11:48:43 AM

Into the blue again: 1.) Kansas is run by Republicans, majority everywhere


Not just Republicans. Teabagger Republicans have a majority in both the House and the Senate, and there's a reason I call the state Brownbackistan.
 
2013-02-19 11:49:35 AM
This is a seriously brazen and scumbaggy proposal. I'd call it underhanded, but what they're doing is so obvious that they don't even attempt to dress it up.  Disgusting.
 
2013-02-19 11:50:18 AM

HAMMERTOE: Soooo... we'll see some real governance by the Democrats, for a change, and the total outlawing of gifts from lobbyists, riiiiiight?


Transfer all power to the deflector array!
 
2013-02-19 11:51:28 AM

Darke: Obviously my point is : Isn't it illegal? Kind of how bribing cops to get out of a ticket is?


I think you have a problem with semantics.  You shouldn't be bribing the officer; you should be lobbying him.
 
2013-02-19 11:51:37 AM
All of my hate.

 

Lost Thought 00: Into the blue again: So it is legal to accept a gift in exchange for certain services? Hookers.... next stop Kansas!

Bribery is legal as long as you report it and pay the appropriate taxes


"Lobbying is nothing more than a benign form of bribery," said Ravi Shankar Prasad, the lawmaker from the national opposition party, the BJP.

India seems more advanced than we are in this regard.

/the guy also is awesome on the Sitar
 
2013-02-19 11:51:43 AM
I'll be sure to remember this as I'm filling out my conflict-of-interest form for the 13th year in a row.
 
2013-02-19 11:54:44 AM
The bill, HB 2314, would up the amount of "hospitality" a legislator may accept from each individual lobbyist from $100 a year to $500 and declares that providing ground transportation doesn't count as a lobbying expense and gifts to legislators' spouses don't count toward the annual limits.

Your loophole, I see it.
 
2013-02-19 11:57:28 AM

Darke: Maybe I slept through civics class those years ago... but isn't lobbying just another word for bribing?  They're spending money on these legislators to get them to vote a certain way, right?  That's bribing.  Or do I have this entire thing wrong?


In Australia it is called brown bag legislation.  You put $10K in a brown paper bag and hand it to the politician you want to pass a certain bill.  Very common.  Quebec in Canada got that corrupt as well.

The US seems to operate in a grey area with no actual money handed over except for campaign donations.  The biggest problem you have is patronage jobs after the politician retires.  For instance, you do everything a health insurance company wants for 10 years, and afterwards they give you a job at ten times the salary you made as politician.   Also a clear signal to the other politicians that you will follow through on their payback when they retire.

I actually support raising the lobbying gift amount.  The more stuff above the table, the better.  It is the deals under the table that are more worrisome.
 
2013-02-19 11:57:58 AM

BMulligan: HAMMERTOE: Soooo... we'll see some real governance by the Democrats, for a change, and the total outlawing of gifts from lobbyists, riiiiiight?

Transfer all power to the deflector array!


Oh God, man, you just cracked me the fark up. Nice work.
 
2013-02-19 12:01:23 PM
So a 400% increase is "cost of living" now? Sweet! I work in a public school. I'll just take my salary from 10 years ago, multiply it by 5, and call it a COLA. Thanks legislature!
 
2013-02-19 12:08:20 PM

mrshowrules: The US seems to operate in a grey area with no actual money handed over except for campaign donations.


Our politicians have come up with some creative and effective ways to launder campaign donations into personal cash, so it's safe to call a large donation a direct bribe nowadays.
 
2013-02-19 12:13:25 PM

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Into the blue again: So it is legal to accept a gift in exchange for certain services? Hookers.... next stop Kansas!

I would strongly recommend avoiding the services of a hooker that charges $15/day.


The words "Kansas" and "hookers" don't paint a pretty mental picture when used in the same sentence.
 
2013-02-19 12:44:35 PM

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Into the blue again: So it is legal to accept a gift in exchange for certain services? Hookers.... next stop Kansas!

I would strongly recommend avoiding the services of a hooker that charges $15/day.


You're not thinking like a lobbyist! You don't pay her $15/day and get laid every day. You pay her $15/day for 90 days and then get your brains farked out on the last day. That way you're not "really" paying that nice working girl $1,350 to grease your pole, you're just helping a poor girl out by buying her lunch for 3 months, and if she happens to show her appreciation in a very naughty way then, well, who am I to judge?
 
2013-02-19 12:55:40 PM

thornhill: "An awkward situation arises when you take a legislator and his or her spouse to, for instance, a football game," Murray said. "Those tickets are priced between $55 and $75 or $85 each," Murray said. "Under the current law the legislator must reimburse me for the amount over $99.99 because the spouse is included in the $100 limit."

So to persuade a lawmaker to support a bill, you cannot just meet with them in their office and explain the merits of the legislation, you have to take them and their spouse to a football game.

How is that not bribery?


$ome people are more equal than others, that's how.
 
2013-02-19 01:04:49 PM

FuturePastNow: mrshowrules: The US seems to operate in a grey area with no actual money handed over except for campaign donations.

Our politicians have come up with some creative and effective ways to launder campaign donations into personal cash, so it's safe to call a large donation a direct bribe nowadays.


Like Gingrich buying thousands of his own books with campaign dollars and most poiticians hiring family as employees.  I guess they can pretty much do anything they want.  Disgusting.
 
2013-02-19 01:12:59 PM
"An awkward situation arises when you take a legislator and his or her spouse to, for instance, a football game," Murray said. "Those tickets are priced between $55 and $75 or $85 each," Murray said. "Under the current law the legislator must reimburse me for the amount over $99.99 because the spouse is included in the $100 limit."

Oh, I don't know, how about NOT taking a politician to a football game?
 
2013-02-19 04:09:25 PM
They should just auction off all state political offices to the highest bidder. The results couldn't be any worse than what they are now and the system would be much more transparent.
 
2013-02-19 04:54:07 PM
Sorry but I can't feel sorry for those who live in Kansas any more.  GTFO out of there, you won't get pitty from me anymore.
 
2013-02-19 05:01:06 PM

thornhill: "An awkward situation arises when you take a legislator and his or her spouse to, for instance, a football game," Murray said. "Those tickets are priced between $55 and $75 or $85 each," Murray said. "Under the current law the legislator must reimburse me for the amount over $99.99 because the spouse is included in the $100 limit."

So to persuade a lawmaker to support a bill, you cannot just meet with them in their office and explain the merits of the legislation, you have to take them and their spouse to a football game.

How is that not bribery?


Because fark you, peon.
 
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