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(The Verge)   The new Galaxy S4 with 16 cores, yes 16 cores, comes out just shy of the Ides of March   (theverge.com) divider line 137
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2013-02-19 12:38:33 PM

rooftop235: Did anyone here read the part about how it will have an eye tracking feature? Why does me phone need to see where I am looking?


It wants to know if you're checking out the guys junk when you're watching porn.
If so, then it's going to out you.
 
2013-02-19 12:42:59 PM

hej: Antimatter: unlikely: And an extended battery life of 37 very long seconds will be one of the many reasons you love this device.

Actually, the way thes emobile chipsets work, often only as many cores as needed or the task are actually active.  The rest just sit there.

I've heard this claim plenty of times, yet somehow the battery life still gets progressively worse as new models come out.  I suppose it's possible that it could be more to do with the unnecessarily high clock speed.


In real life, my Galaxy S3 gets much better battery life than my Galaxy S2 ever did, plus it is much quicker. The higher clock speed and multi-core is really needed with the WiFi/BT/GPS all functioning at the same time to deliver the data faster. For what I do, the S2 was hardly used because it was too slow and needed to constantly sit on the battery charger to the S3 which does 70% of what I used to on the desktop with better much battery and speed performance. 16 Cores looks like nothing but a good thing for Samsung and Android.
 
2013-02-19 12:43:53 PM

unlikely: And an extended battery life of 37 very long seconds will be one of the many reasons you love this device.


Came here to say this.

/always amused when the first thing any of my friends do when they come over is plug in their Samsung phones into an outlet
 
2013-02-19 12:45:52 PM

Klitch: So when does Samsung become the same as Apple for putting out new iterations of the same phone with small unnoticeable tweaks every year?


Just as soon as Samsung claims to be changing the world by doing it.
 
2013-02-19 12:48:49 PM

gingerjet: unlikely: And an extended battery life of 37 very long seconds will be one of the many reasons you love this device.

Came here to say this.

/always amused when the first thing any of my friends do when they come over is plug in their Samsung phones into an outlet


My sister in law and cousins have iPhones and that's the first thing they ever do when they dome over. I suppose the iPhone just ran on smug?

There's a reason AAPL is trading where it is.
 
2013-02-19 12:49:29 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I love my Samsung S2. Especially the part where it turns itself off for no apparent reason several times a day. Not all the time mind you, it can go for several days without issues, and then it starts up again.
Searching the innertubs reveals that this is not a problem just with Samsung, but also plagues other Android phones.
When my contract is up, I may search out other alternatives.


I've been using Android phones since they were first released and only the S2 had this issue for me. The other Android phones have their own unique problems.
 
2013-02-19 12:54:42 PM

gingerjet: unlikely: And an extended battery life of 37 very long seconds will be one of the many reasons you love this device.

Came here to say this.

/always amused when the first thing any of my friends do when they come over is plug in their Samsung phones into an outlet


Why is that amusing?
 
2013-02-19 12:56:52 PM

gingerjet: unlikely: And an extended battery life of 37 very long seconds will be one of the many reasons you love this device.

Came here to say this.

/always amused when the first thing any of my friends do when they come over is plug in their Samsung phones into an outlet


You're amused that your friends forget to charge their phones?  You should get out more.
 
2013-02-19 12:56:55 PM

timujin: Klitch: So when does Samsung become the same as Apple for putting out new iterations of the same phone with small unnoticeable tweaks every year?

So... do you actually think the differences between the hardware under the current SIII and the proposed hardware they're talking about here are "small unnoticeable tweaks"?


Just to chime in, personally I don't believe that. But that exact criticism has been levied by Farkers against iPhones when they include camera, RAM, CPU, and body design upgrades.
 
2013-02-19 12:58:57 PM

Mentalpatient87: Klitch: So when does Samsung become the same as Apple for putting out new iterations of the same phone with small unnoticeable tweaks every year?

Just as soon as Samsung claims to be changing the world by doing it.


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2013-02-19 01:04:08 PM

H31N0US: gingerjet: unlikely: And an extended battery life of 37 very long seconds will be one of the many reasons you love this device.

Came here to say this.

/always amused when the first thing any of my friends do when they come over is plug in their Samsung phones into an outlet

My sister in law and cousins have iPhones and that's the first thing they ever do when they dome over. I suppose the iPhone just ran on smug?

There's a reason AAPL is trading where it is.


Upon reading this I went and looked at the stock. Falling from $700 in August to $450 in February the following year is almost unbelievable.
 
2013-02-19 01:04:20 PM

Drew: Mugato: So did Samsung's check clear, Drew?

If you can get them to write me one I'll cash the hell out of it


XD

Mentalpatient87: Klitch: So when does Samsung become the same as Apple for putting out new iterations of the same phone with small unnoticeable tweaks every year?

Just as soon as Samsung claims to be changing the world by doing it.


XD
 
2013-02-19 01:04:53 PM

MightyPez: timujin: Klitch: So when does Samsung become the same as Apple for putting out new iterations of the same phone with small unnoticeable tweaks every year?

So... do you actually think the differences between the hardware under the current SIII and the proposed hardware they're talking about here are "small unnoticeable tweaks"?

Just to chime in, personally I don't believe that. But that exact criticism has been levied by Farkers against iPhones when they include camera, RAM, CPU, and body design upgrades.


The brand loyalty you see is pathetic.
 
2013-02-19 01:10:12 PM

Doublespeak: MightyPez: timujin: Klitch: So when does Samsung become the same as Apple for putting out new iterations of the same phone with small unnoticeable tweaks every year?

So... do you actually think the differences between the hardware under the current SIII and the proposed hardware they're talking about here are "small unnoticeable tweaks"?

Just to chime in, personally I don't believe that. But that exact criticism has been levied by Farkers against iPhones when they include camera, RAM, CPU, and body design upgrades.

The brand loyalty you see is pathetic.


Agreed. I see more reasonable discussions about gaming consoles on GameFAQS than the weird mobile phone threads here.
 
2013-02-19 01:23:59 PM

MightyPez: timujin: Klitch: So when does Samsung become the same as Apple for putting out new iterations of the same phone with small unnoticeable tweaks every year?

So... do you actually think the differences between the hardware under the current SIII and the proposed hardware they're talking about here are "small unnoticeable tweaks"?

Just to chime in, personally I don't believe that. But that exact criticism has been levied by Farkers against iPhones when they include camera, RAM, CPU, and body design upgrades.


Yeah, that is pretty stupid.  I see a lot of stupid in mobile phone threads here, from the insistence that every year's iPhone is exactly the same to the insistence that any phone with a large touchscreen that has icons on it is a complete knockoff of the iPhone.
 
2013-02-19 01:25:33 PM

Mikey1969: I love my SIII, awesome phone. Wish I COULD upgrade, going to have to wait another year and a half, though.

Fun fact: Samsung has sold 100 million of the Galaxy line. Apple has sold only 85 million iPhones, and has had a longer time to do it in. Samsung must be doing something right if they were even able to overtake the cream of the "Buy a new phone every year with the same features" crop.


There have been 6 iPhones. There have been 45 Samsung Galaxy devices (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy ). If you're suggesting that flooding the market with cheap devices and a few flagships is doing it right, you're correct.
 
2013-02-19 01:28:11 PM

RexTalionis: Klitch: So when does Samsung become the same as Apple for putting out new iterations of the same phone with small unnoticeable tweaks every year?

[cdn3.sbnation.com image 850x565]
Here's Samsung's curved-screen prototype. You can shut off the flat portion of the screen and only have a display on the curved "lip" so you can get text messages and alerts without turning on the entire screen and drawing power.


That's kinda sexy.  But to be honest, aren't there blinking lights on the S3 for text message/email notifications already?  I know my S3 does that when I get new stuff.
 
hej
2013-02-19 01:31:22 PM

Slaxl: hej: I've heard this claim plenty of times, yet somehow the battery life still gets progressively worse as new models come out.  I suppose it's possible that it could be more to do with the unnecessarily high clock speed.

I thought battery life was improving. Of course we're still nowhere near the Nokia bricks of the early 00s, that lasted forever, but these are very different devices. They're more computer than phone. That they can last a day is amazing. It's going to be a long time before smartphones can last for a week. When they do something even better will come out with more power hungriness.


My Nexus 4 gets about half the battery life of my Galaxy S.  And that's despite it having a batter that's about 50% bigger, and having an LCD display instead of AMOLED.  And I thought that the newer versions of Android were supposed to be more efficient than the older ones...
 
hej
2013-02-19 01:34:50 PM

hej: Slaxl: hej: I've heard this claim plenty of times, yet somehow the battery life still gets progressively worse as new models come out.  I suppose it's possible that it could be more to do with the unnecessarily high clock speed.

I thought battery life was improving. Of course we're still nowhere near the Nokia bricks of the early 00s, that lasted forever, but these are very different devices. They're more computer than phone. That they can last a day is amazing. It's going to be a long time before smartphones can last for a week. When they do something even better will come out with more power hungriness.

My Nexus 4 gets about half the battery life of my Galaxy S.  And that's despite it having a batter that's about 50% bigger, and having an LCD display instead of AMOLED.  And I thought that the newer versions of Android were supposed to be more efficient than the older ones...


And yes, I suppose this could be an apples & oranges comparison, since I'm comparing Samsung VS Qualcomm cpu's.
 
2013-02-19 01:36:16 PM
You really need that much processing power for a 4 inch screen?
 
2013-02-19 01:42:45 PM

Old enough to know better: You really need that much processing power for a 4 inch screen?


Since when is processing power correlated to screen size?
 
2013-02-19 01:45:09 PM

Old enough to know better: You really need that much processing power for a 4 inch screen?


If it's full HD?  Sure, doesn't hurt.
 
2013-02-19 02:00:27 PM

rooftop235: Did anyone here read the part about how it will have an eye tracking feature? Why does me phone need to see where I am looking? Targeted advertising perhaps?


Every 30 seconds (or the sleep duration) the camera on the S3 switches on to see if you are looking at it. If it detects your face it does not go to sleep. You can tell by the little eye icon that pops up in the status bar.

It is a very handy feature, I wish it were a stock Android feature, I miss it on my Nexus10.
 
2013-02-19 02:23:11 PM
It's a farking phone sheeples, wake the f*ck up.
 
2013-02-19 02:26:58 PM
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2013-02-19 02:31:06 PM

pkellmey: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: I love my Samsung S2. Especially the part where it turns itself off for no apparent reason several times a day. Not all the time mind you, it can go for several days without issues, and then it starts up again.
Searching the innertubs reveals that this is not a problem just with Samsung, but also plagues other Android phones.
When my contract is up, I may search out other alternatives.

I've been using Android phones since they were first released and only the S2 had this issue for me. The other Android phones have their own unique problems.


Have to back this. I'm on my third Android phone (G2, then One S, now Nexus 4), and the only time I had a random shutdown problem was when using a very, VERY alpha custom Rom on the G2. This seems more like an issue with the Galaxy S2 than one with Android in general.
 
2013-02-19 02:42:16 PM

timujin: cgraves67: timujin: unlikely: And an extended battery life of 37 very long seconds will be one of the many reasons you love this device.

The "16 cores" in the headline were nowhere in the article.  That being said, my four-core Note II has great battery life, better than that of many of my friend's phones.

Ah, a Note user.

I'm going to be in the market for a new smartphone in 6 months. That Note is pretty friggin' big. Do you find that to be an advantage or a drawback? Is there something in particular that you do that you need that big of a screen on a phone? Should I get a "phablet" if I already have a tablet?

I'm 6'3", my hands, head and pants pockets are scaled bigger than the average person's.  When people exclaim that my phone is huge, I ask them to hold theirs flat on their palm.  I do the same and mine is proportionally the same as theirs.

What I've found, functionally, is that I rarely use anything else.  I don't have a tablet, but I hardly touch my laptop or desktop when at home unless I'm doing something that requires a lot of typing.


On the other end of the spectrum, I have a Note I and I'm only 5'9". I mostly use two hands to type on it, but I have no problem swyping with one hand. I also use it in almost every situation. Also, I learned of an added benefit when I went snow skiing a few weeks ago: having a stylus means you don't have to take your gloves off in five degree weather to use the touchscreen.
 
2013-02-19 02:50:29 PM
Yeah, way to go Apple, a phone with 16 cores. How many cores does a phone need to play Angry Birds anyway? And yet the Jobsophiles will eat this up with a spoon and ask for seconds.

Oh. Wait....
 
2013-02-19 03:01:44 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: It's a farking phone sheeples, wake the f*ck up.


Hey, you ever try to use a 4 inch touch screen with hooves? It's harder than it looks.
 
kab
2013-02-19 03:02:46 PM

Old enough to know better: You really need that much processing power for a 4 inch screen?


If you're surprised by what the typical electronics consumer considers 'good', you aren't living up to your FARK handle.
 
2013-02-19 03:02:58 PM
I have a Nexus, Daughter has an S2, sons have iPhone 4s' (cause they were cheap). Know what? All of the phones work. We can all watch Netflix, text AND make phone calls.

/It's all silly to me.
 
kab
2013-02-19 03:05:37 PM

Earpj: I have a Nexus, Daughter has an S2, sons have iPhone 4s' (cause they were cheap). Know what? All of the phones work. We can all watch Netflix, text AND make phone calls.

/It's all silly to me.


Using a phone to watch Netflix is pretty silly, I'll agree.
 
2013-02-19 03:08:28 PM

Phaeon: Also, I learned of an added benefit when I went snow skiing a few weeks ago: having a stylus means you don't have to take your gloves off in five degree weather to use the touchscreen.


Or, if you're skiing you could just leave the phone in your pocket and enjoy the farking day.
 
2013-02-19 03:15:38 PM
kab:

Using a phone to watch Netflix is pretty silly, I'll agree

 The boys like watching it. *shrug* It works for them.
 
2013-02-19 03:19:15 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Or, if you're skiing you could just leave the phone in your pocket and enjoy the farking day.


I just checked with Ric Romero to confirm this, but it turns out that downhill skiing also involves long uphill treks where you remain idle for several minutes at a time (or even longer if that goddamn kid at the bottom can't get on without getting flipped over on his face and they have to stop it for the TENTH GODDAMN TIME SINCE YOU.... okay... okay... I'm okay...) and that some people may choose to communicate with friends, take pictures, or otherwise utilize the capabilities of their phone while waiting to go back down the hill instead of just sitting there picking their frozen boogers the whole way up.
 
2013-02-19 03:23:46 PM
I just bought a GS3 after my Evo took a swan dive off of a cliff this past weekend, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies...


/was trying to hold out for a GS4 :(
 
2013-02-19 03:24:59 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Or, if you're skiing you could just leave the phone in your pocket and enjoy the farking day.

I just checked with Ric Romero to confirm this, but it turns out that downhill skiing also involves long uphill treks where you remain idle for several minutes at a time (or even longer if that goddamn kid at the bottom can't get on without getting flipped over on his face and they have to stop it for the TENTH GODDAMN TIME SINCE YOU.... okay... okay... I'm okay...) and that some people may choose to communicate with friends, take pictures, or otherwise utilize the capabilities of their phone while waiting to go back down the hill instead of just sitting there picking their frozen boogers the whole way up.


Guess I'm old enough to remember not having a phone to take to the slopes, and still having a good time when we were idle.
 
2013-02-19 03:31:26 PM
Finally.

I've put off upgrading my current phone (iPhone 3GS) to take a look at the S4.
 
2013-02-19 03:31:31 PM
Cynisism has won. People don't care about seeing sense and making a rational argument. They want to be the first to say "No", and if not the first then at least they aren't in the majority....

Point is technology is progressing. Be happy with that. Miserable farkers that you are.
 
Ant
2013-02-19 03:31:45 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: It's a farking phone sheeples, wake the f*ck up.


It's a tiny little computer. Some of us happen to enjoy playing with the latest and greatest tiny little computers that also happen to allow you to make phone calls. I'm not sure why that makes us sheeple. What are you doing on the Geek tab anyway?
 
2013-02-19 03:39:30 PM

Ant: What are you doing on the Geek tab anyway?


Valid point. Usually he clogs the Sports tab with his shiatty Cowgirls discussion. ;-)
 
2013-02-19 04:05:55 PM
Umm, uh, what?
 
2013-02-19 04:06:23 PM

kab: Using a phone to watch Netflix is pretty silly, I'll agree.


My data plan gives me unlimited data, so I watch Netflix when it's a cardio day at the gym.  It works out extremely well for me.  I have no other device that provides me with this opportunity.
 
2013-02-19 04:09:27 PM
As i buy and S3 not 2 weeks ago. cause Fark iphone.
 
2013-02-19 04:11:01 PM

Craps the Gorilla: As i buy and S3 not 2 weeks ago. cause Fark iphone.


Wat?
 
2013-02-19 04:14:10 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Craps the Gorilla: As i buy and S3 not 2 weeks ago. cause Fark iphone.

Wat?


Don't you base your purchasing decisions on what you dislike? It's a perfectly cromulent way to spend your hard earned money.
 
2013-02-19 04:27:04 PM

cgraves67: timujin: unlikely: And an extended battery life of 37 very long seconds will be one of the many reasons you love this device.

The "16 cores" in the headline were nowhere in the article.  That being said, my four-core Note II has great battery life, better than that of many of my friend's phones.

Ah, a Note user.

I'm going to be in the market for a new smartphone in 6 months. That Note is pretty friggin' big. Do you find that to be an advantage or a drawback? Is there something in particular that you do that you need that big of a screen on a phone? Should I get a "phablet" if I already have a tablet?


I got the Note II in November, and I love it.  The size is an advantage 99% of the time and almost never causes any problems.  I'm even a modern-day fancy man who wears slim pants, and I have no issue carrying it around.  The huge screen is strange at first but once you get used to it you would never give it up.  My previous smartphones were all iPhones and they feel downright primitive now.
 
2013-02-19 04:56:04 PM

shut_it_down: cgraves67: timujin: unlikely: And an extended battery life of 37 very long seconds will be one of the many reasons you love this device.

The "16 cores" in the headline were nowhere in the article.  That being said, my four-core Note II has great battery life, better than that of many of my friend's phones.

Ah, a Note user.

I'm going to be in the market for a new smartphone in 6 months. That Note is pretty friggin' big. Do you find that to be an advantage or a drawback? Is there something in particular that you do that you need that big of a screen on a phone? Should I get a "phablet" if I already have a tablet?

I got the Note II in November, and I love it.  The size is an advantage 99% of the time and almost never causes any problems.  I'm even a modern-day fancy man who wears slim pants, and I have no issue carrying it around.  The huge screen is strange at first but once you get used to it you would never give it up.  My previous smartphones were all iPhones and they feel downright primitive now.


The things is, it's not really a "phone" any more, it's my personal data device.  The other functions have long since eclipsed its use as a device for voice communications.  I probably use it for that about 10% of the time, the majority of my interactions these days happen over chat and text.  Calling it a "phone" is antiquated, like thinking of a desktop computer as a calculator, or even as a machine to create spreadsheets.  That functionality is still there, but it's only a tiny part of what I actually do.  I hold nearly the entire sum of human knowledge in my pants pocket, the fact that I can talk to people on it as well is a nice bonus.
 
2013-02-19 04:59:34 PM

hej: hej: Slaxl: hej: I've heard this claim plenty of times, yet somehow the battery life still gets progressively worse as new models come out.  I suppose it's possible that it could be more to do with the unnecessarily high clock speed.

I thought battery life was improving. Of course we're still nowhere near the Nokia bricks of the early 00s, that lasted forever, but these are very different devices. They're more computer than phone. That they can last a day is amazing. It's going to be a long time before smartphones can last for a week. When they do something even better will come out with more power hungriness.

My Nexus 4 gets about half the battery life of my Galaxy S.  And that's despite it having a batter that's about 50% bigger, and having an LCD display instead of AMOLED.  And I thought that the newer versions of Android were supposed to be more efficient than the older ones...

And yes, I suppose this could be an apples & oranges comparison, since I'm comparing Samsung VS Qualcomm cpu's.


The US Galaxy S3 uses the same Qualcomm processor.
 
2013-02-19 05:07:54 PM

rooftop235: Did anyone here read the part about how it will have an eye tracking feature? Why does me phone need to see where I am looking? Targeted advertising perhaps?

[991.com image 350x365]


Several people already noted, this is already in the current generation Galaxy, and primarily so the phone automatically shuts off when you're not looking at it.

Honestly though, if Samsung chooses to pursue it, there's about a dozen additional and pretty cool ways that eye tracking can be utilized. Simple things like auto-scrolling/auto-page turning in books or websites, or for 3D video, would be easy to implement. It could also be used for games, augmented reality applications, a customized interface, etc... I don't know how high the quality of Samsung's eye-tracking is,  but expect to see it in more phones going forward and with lots of cool uses.
 
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