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(New York Daily News)   NY senate leader: my duties require me to do constituent service at liquor stores in West Palm Beach. Haters gonna hate   (nydailynews.com) divider line 14
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2013-02-19 08:20:21 AM
I really can't bring myself to get outraged that someone spent campaign funds on things possibly related to campaigning.  And even if they weren't related they were campaign funds, not my tax dollars.
 
2013-02-19 08:25:41 AM
To be fair, Big Daddy's is a liquor store attached to Flanagan's restaurants.
 
2013-02-19 08:32:27 AM
Yeah. I mean. If he was buying his daughter a car or something? I could see being outraged, but spending money on traveling all over the state? Staying in hotels? money to pay for a fundraiser(Which in turn probably made more money)? Isn't that what the campaign money is for?
 
2013-02-19 08:57:09 AM

Sail The Wide Accountancy: Yeah. I mean. If he was buying his daughter a car or something? I could see being outraged, but spending money on traveling all over the state? Staying in hotels? money to pay for a fundraiser(Which in turn probably made more money)? Isn't that what the campaign money is for?


West Palm Beach is in New York now? I know there's a lot of alte kackers from the city down there, but I had no idea we went ahead and annexed it.
 
2013-02-19 08:58:30 AM

JMacPA: I really can't bring myself to get outraged that someone spent campaign funds on things possibly related to campaigning.  And even if they weren't related they were campaign funds, not my tax dollars.


Why would a New York State Senator be campaigning in Shanghai and Florida?

Also, it's nice and all that it's not taxpayer dollars but most states (plus the federal government) have laws on what you can do with campaign cash.
 
2013-02-19 09:05:32 AM
Without reading the article and from just reading the first 3 comments here, I'll guess this guy has a (D) behind his name.

Just a guess, of course.
 
2013-02-19 09:08:31 AM

GanjSmokr: Without reading the article and from just reading the first 3 comments here, I'll guess this guy has a (D) behind his name.

Just a guess, of course.


Well, sort of.
http://www.cityandstateny.com/malcolm -smith-named-chair-of-senate-ind e pendent-democratic-conference/

/Guy's got perks coming left and right!
//Until he gets Huntley'd, anyway
 
2013-02-19 09:14:13 AM

ThisSideofSteinway: GanjSmokr: Without reading the article and from just reading the first 3 comments here, I'll guess this guy has a (D) behind his name.

Just a guess, of course.

Well, sort of.
http://www.cityandstateny.com/malcolm -smith-named-chair-of-senate-ind e pendent-democratic-conference/

/Guy's got perks coming left and right!
//Until he gets Huntley'd, anyway


Let's try that again.
 
2013-02-19 09:57:36 AM

ThisSideofSteinway: ThisSideofSteinway: GanjSmokr: Without reading the article and from just reading the first 3 comments here, I'll guess this guy has a (D) behind his name.

Just a guess, of course.

Well, sort of.
http://www.cityandstateny.com/malcolm -smith-named-chair-of-senate-ind e pendent-democratic-conference/

/Guy's got perks coming left and right!
//Until he gets Huntley'd, anyway

Let's try that again.


From the comments
kb
Malcolm Smith couldn't run a coin-op laundromat. He will probably have difficulties with his responsibilities as conference chair, since the number of members in his caucus may be too high for him to count.
 
2013-02-19 10:18:28 AM

Gulper Eel: Sail The Wide Accountancy: Yeah. I mean. If he was buying his daughter a car or something? I could see being outraged, but spending money on traveling all over the state? Staying in hotels? money to pay for a fundraiser(Which in turn probably made more money)? Isn't that what the campaign money is for?

West Palm Beach is in New York now? I know there's a lot of alte kackers from the city down there, but I had no idea we went ahead and annexed it.


Yes, though I thought in the article, it said that that was part of his "work as leader of a working group on high-speed rail formed by the National Conference of State Legislators." And as long as he put the paperwork through and it was not against the rules, it's fine. (Whether or not you believe that it was rail related is another matter.)

As for going to Florida? There's a large number of people with dual state residency and you'd be surprised how much money comes to NY politicians from Florida.

Now, if you think that the rules should be changed I'm all for it. The aritcle said that "Legislators are able to use these funds for anything they deem necessary for holding office and it shouldn't be that way," If that's your opinion, then I agree with you. But until they actually make a rule, I can't be outraged.
 
2013-02-19 10:20:46 AM

GanjSmokr: Without reading the article and from just reading the first 3 comments here, I'll guess this guy has a (D) behind his name.

Just a guess, of course.


Not anymore. It's complicated, but... two of the most corrupt members of the Democratic Party, Hiram Monseratte and Pedro Espada, loathed Malcolm Smith because a) he did corruption better than they did and b) having a black man in a leadership position diluted Latino power. Somehow. They left the Democratic caucus and tried to hand power to the Republicans, who offered them a better deal and protection from corruption investigations. That ended up not working out because this left a tie in the Senate; one was convicted of a crime and expelled, and the other was primaried out (and then convicted). Despite that, the people who would later become the Independent Democratic Conference supported their coup attempt. Democrats made a deal with those two to return to the caucus and end the miserable gridlock in exchange for ending Smith's term and replacing him with John Sampson. In 2010 the Republicans retook the chamber, but it looked increasingly likely that the Democrats would retake the chamber in 2012 despite shameless gerrymandering and a probably unconstitutional attempt to add an extra seat to the Senate. The "Independent Democratic Conference" left the majority caucus and caucused "independently" because, they claimed, Malcolm Smith was so terribly corrupt that they couldn't bear to be near him, and also John Sampson was too... something. When the Democrats captured enough seats in the State Senate that it was possible that they'd be the majority if a couple members of the IDC defected, the IDC demonstrated its principles by... recruiting Malcolm Smith, because he was the only lowlife wiling to associate with them. The guy whom many of the same members had earlier derided as the most corrupt man in the Senate. And then they caucused with the Republicans.

So, no, Malcolm Smith isn't a Democrat anymore save by party registration. He has Cuomo's backing, but Smith has turned his back on the party and has cast his lot with the Republicans.
 
2013-02-19 11:12:57 AM

Gulper Eel: Sail The Wide Accountancy: Yeah. I mean. If he was buying his daughter a car or something? I could see being outraged, but spending money on traveling all over the state? Staying in hotels? money to pay for a fundraiser(Which in turn probably made more money)? Isn't that what the campaign money is for?

West Palm Beach is in New York now? I know there's a lot of alte kackers from the city down there, but I had no idea we went ahead and annexed it.


New York doesn't have snow birds who vote absentee? Michigan sure does.
 
2013-02-19 05:59:09 PM
well just by his picture i'm sure this is a case of Chicago style politics

dnrtfa
 
2013-02-20 01:16:29 AM

captainktainer: GanjSmokr: Without reading the article and from just reading the first 3 comments here, I'll guess this guy has a (D) behind his name.

Just a guess, of course.

Not anymore. It's complicated, but... two of the most corrupt members of the Democratic Party, Hiram Monseratte and Pedro Espada, loathed Malcolm Smith because a) he did corruption better than they did and b) having a black man in a leadership position diluted Latino power. Somehow. They left the Democratic caucus and tried to hand power to the Republicans, who offered them a better deal and protection from corruption investigations. That ended up not working out because this left a tie in the Senate; one was convicted of a crime and expelled, and the other was primaried out (and then convicted). Despite that, the people who would later become the Independent Democratic Conference supported their coup attempt. Democrats made a deal with those two to return to the caucus and end the miserable gridlock in exchange for ending Smith's term and replacing him with John Sampson. In 2010 the Republicans retook the chamber, but it looked increasingly likely that the Democrats would retake the chamber in 2012 despite shameless gerrymandering and a probably unconstitutional attempt to add an extra seat to the Senate. The "Independent Democratic Conference" left the majority caucus and caucused "independently" because, they claimed, Malcolm Smith was so terribly corrupt that they couldn't bear to be near him, and also John Sampson was too... something. When the Democrats captured enough seats in the State Senate that it was possible that they'd be the majority if a couple members of the IDC defected, the IDC demonstrated its principles by... recruiting Malcolm Smith, because he was the only lowlife wiling to associate with them. The guy whom many of the same members had earlier derided as the most corrupt man in the Senate. And then they caucused with the Republicans.

So, no, Malcolm Smith isn't a Democrat anymore

save by party registration. He has Cuomo's backing, but Smith has turned his back on the party and has cast his lot with the Republicans.

This sounds about right.  Is it bad that I wish there were a way of the people of New York not to recognized the "Independent" "Democratic" Conference?  Also, I'm glad Tkacyk (I probably spelled her name wrong) won her election even after George Amedore attempted to steal it.
 
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