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(USA Today)   Hotmail is shutting down, all users will be transitioned over to Outlook.com and its "fresh, intuitive interface" that all Microsoft products are known for   (usatoday.com) divider line 71
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2013-02-19 06:27:04 AM  
 You can choose an Outlook.com e-mail address while ditching your Hotmail or Live.com email addresses. Or you can continue to use accounts with those addresses.

Well, I shall just ignore everything then
 
2013-02-19 06:39:52 AM  
EVERYTHING I GET FROM HOTMAIL THESE DAYS IS IN ALL CAPS AND FULL OF EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!
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2013-02-19 07:48:37 AM  
Damn it, how am I supposed to arrange for anonymous sex with trannies now!?
 
2013-02-19 07:50:48 AM  
I've had the same hotmail account for 15 years. I think I need to update.
 
2013-02-19 07:51:32 AM  
So now even submitters aren't reading the farking articles?
 
2013-02-19 07:51:55 AM  
ts2.mm.bing.net
 
2013-02-19 07:55:55 AM  
By "fresh" and "intuitive" do they mean that crappy, crowded menu within menus, stacked sidebars on all sides, and the same picture scroll on the top and bottom of the page, with columns and columns of links thrown in for good measure that a lot of web pages are going to now?  I hate that.  Here! Here is everything we can ever think of shoved in bits and pieces around one page! How intuitive!

My local paper went to this recently.  I still haven't gotten over it.  I like clean and concise.
 
2013-02-19 07:57:16 AM  
If their tv marketing campaign is anything like the current one for the Surface, i expect to see a commercial full of hipster douches in business suits/clothes (and sneakers) doing coordinated dance moves around a conference table while using their "fresh, intuitive interface" to type and send lolcat emails to each other. Because nothing says "use our product" better than coordinated dance moves.
 
2013-02-19 07:59:41 AM  
i158.photobucket.com


Wow!  I can read mail on the web, rendered in HTML!  What will they think of next?
 
2013-02-19 08:04:02 AM  
NOO different colors!!  how will i learn how to use it!!!!
 
2013-02-19 08:04:46 AM  
I've had my hotmail account since 1995.  I still use it as my junk email account when I have to sign up for things.
 
2013-02-19 08:05:29 AM  

ReapTheChaos: So now even submitters aren't reading the farking articles?


"Now"?
 
2013-02-19 08:10:43 AM  
You should still continue putting your hotmail address on your resume you potential employers know not to hire you.
 
2013-02-19 08:16:19 AM  

osiris111: I've had my hotmail account since 1995.  I still use it as my junk email account when I have to sign up for things.


My hotmail account from the 90s gets less spam than my gmail account.
 
2013-02-19 08:17:02 AM  

Jon iz teh kewl: NOO different colors!!  how will i learn how to use it!!!!


Have you actually used it? It's an ergonomics case study in failure.
 
2013-02-19 08:22:12 AM  

osiris111: I've had my hotmail account since 1995.  I still use it as my junk email account when I have to sign up for things.


Same here.  It's very useful as a crap filter.

My wife does not hold with this philosophy which explains why her email account gets a few thousands emails each day.  I have to tell her when I emailed her something important or she'll never see it.
 
2013-02-19 08:24:05 AM  

Bored Horde: osiris111: I've had my hotmail account since 1995.  I still use it as my junk email account when I have to sign up for things.

My hotmail account from the 90s gets less spam than my gmail account.


I get spam, but mostly from idiots using the hotmail account I've had since '96 as their e-mail when they sign up for things like Facebook or SugarDaddy.

I take over the accounts when they do that, changing the password and sometimes adding my own 'flare' - like using pictures from "Faces of Meth" as profile pics.
 
2013-02-19 08:26:08 AM  
If you're still using Hotmail, you deserve whatever happens to you because of it.
 
2013-02-19 08:28:56 AM  
People actually still use their web browser to access email instead of their phone? Between seeing the using the mail client that came with the start screen of Windows 8 and my phone's email client, I haven't ever needed to even try the web interface.
 
2013-02-19 08:30:44 AM  

Dick Gozinya: If their tv marketing campaign is anything like the current one for the Surface, i expect to see a commercial full of hipster douches in business suits/clothes (and sneakers) doing coordinated dance moves around a conference table while using their "fresh, intuitive interface" to type and send lolcat emails to each other. Because nothing says "use our product" better than coordinated dance moves.



God, I hate those farking commercials.

Adding insult to injury is the knowledge of how shiatastic Windows 8 really is. Seeing them happily promoting some product that is so crappy just pisses me off.
 
2013-02-19 08:33:24 AM  

adenosine: People actually still use their web browser to access email instead of their phone? Between seeing the using the mail client that came with the start screen of Windows 8 and my phone's email client, I haven't ever needed to even try the web interface.


You must be happily married..
 
2013-02-19 08:35:26 AM  
excitemail still going strong.
 
2013-02-19 08:39:19 AM  

ReapTheChaos: So now even submitters aren't reading the farking articles?


MS hate is popular right now.  Insta green = internet points redeemable for money and p*ssy.
 
2013-02-19 08:39:20 AM  

adenosine: People actually still use their web browser to access email instead of their phone? Between seeing the using the mail client that came with the start screen of Windows 8 and my phone's email client, I haven't ever needed to even try the web interface.


Read mail on 4 inch phone versus 27 inch monitor?  Hmmm.
Respond to email with 4 inch keyboard or full-size keyboard?  Hmmm.

Yes, I prefer the web client on my PC for my hotmail and gmail accounts.  I could bring it down into Outlook but the point is of these accounts to keep the spam and garbage emails off my PC in the first place.
 
2013-02-19 08:40:46 AM  
Heh, remember when Hotmail was bought by Microsoft, and they were still running on Linux servers?  They tried switching to Windows, but ran into performance problems.   They didn't end up switching completely until 2004.
 
2013-02-19 08:44:59 AM  
I got my @outlook.com address mostly to lock down the otherwise same name as my @gmail.com address. For me one of the big annoyances is MS pretty much refusing to acknowledge the native Android e-mail app, and trying to insist I install their app or use a mobile browser.
 
2013-02-19 08:48:23 AM  

ReapTheChaos: So now even submitters aren't reading the farking articles?


I never knew it was required
 
2013-02-19 08:52:50 AM  
I primarily use my old Hotmail address for BIE.

/EIP
 
2013-02-19 08:52:55 AM  

doczoidberg: Dick Gozinya: If their tv marketing campaign is anything like the current one for the Surface, i expect to see a commercial full of hipster douches in business suits/clothes (and sneakers) doing coordinated dance moves around a conference table while using their "fresh, intuitive interface" to type and send lolcat emails to each other. Because nothing says "use our product" better than coordinated dance moves.


God, I hate those farking commercials.

Adding insult to injury is the knowledge of how shiatastic Windows 8 really is. Seeing them happily promoting some product that is so crappy just pisses me off.


They really are not even promoting the product, so much as promoting the package (the anemic Surface RT Tablet) it comes in. Even then, no one is really using the damn thing other then as a dancing prop.
 
2013-02-19 08:54:42 AM  

blue_2501: Heh, remember when Hotmail was bought by Microsoft, and they were still running on Linux servers?  They tried switching to Windows, but ran into performance problems.   They didn't end up switching completely until 2004.


I believe it was *BSD servers that Hotmail was running on.  Another person that has had the same hotmail account since the mid 90's.  Still check it, still have old friends use it to e-mail.  The oldest e-mail still in there is from 1998.

I do like my gmail account.
 
2013-02-19 08:54:55 AM  
Meh...

I'll stick with my Yahoo account for spam. Why do I need another e-mail account when Yahoo has been serving as my spam folder since 1998?
 
2013-02-19 08:56:19 AM  

Unobtanium: I got my @outlook.com address mostly to lock down the otherwise same name as my @gmail.com address. For me one of the big annoyances is MS pretty much refusing to acknowledge the native Android e-mail app, and trying to insist I install their app or use a mobile browser.


Wat?

I do the majority of my emailing via the native Android app, I use live/Outlook.com. I've never been prompted to install an Ms app, and the native email app set everything up automatically.
 
2013-02-19 08:57:47 AM  

tdyak: blue_2501: Heh, remember when Hotmail was bought by Microsoft, and they were still running on Linux servers?  They tried switching to Windows, but ran into performance problems.   They didn't end up switching completely until 2004.

I believe it was *BSD servers that Hotmail was running on.  Another person that has had the same hotmail account since the mid 90's.  Still check it, still have old friends use it to e-mail.  The oldest e-mail still in there is from 1998.

I do like my gmail account.


Scratch that, the oldest e-mail I actually have sitting in hotmail is from 02/04/02.
 
2013-02-19 08:59:28 AM  

Unobtanium: For me one of the big annoyances is MS pretty much refusing to acknowledge the native Android e-mail app, and trying to insist I install their app or use a mobile browser.


Works fine on my One X, after the Jellybean software update. I do tech support for a cell phone company, and I get about 500% more calls with yahoo mail not working than I do with any of the hotmail/msn/live emails not working.
 
2013-02-19 09:08:00 AM  
I think I have Hotmail beat:

I'm still using a Lycos email account I got back in 2002.
 
2013-02-19 09:12:08 AM  
I do not understand why people are mad at this. I use the Outlook part for hotmail and I am not having any issues at all. Transferred over last year for fun and did not mind the change. I find it better actually in some ways. Then again, I use Outlook a lot at my job so I am used to Outlook.
 
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2013-02-19 09:19:25 AM  
So... Unintuitive ribbons/menus, jarring whole-page reloads (with lost form data), a terrible WYSIWY(d)G HTML editor, and barely functional web-based single-sign-on? Par for the course, then.
 
2013-02-19 09:21:35 AM  

adenosine: People actually still use their web browser to access email instead of their phone? Between seeing the using the mail client that came with the start screen of Windows 8 and my phone's email client, I haven't ever needed to even try the web interface.


Do you know what they call a shower in France?
 
2013-02-19 09:28:25 AM  

adenosine: People actually still use their web browser to access email instead of their phone? Between seeing the using the mail client that came with the start screen of Windows 8 and my phone's email client, I haven't ever needed to even try the web interface.


I do because it is easier to type an email on my computer then my phone or tablet. I need to be able to type a long email to my fellow classmates when working on group projects or helping with homework. Not to mention easier to attach files of said projects / homework.
 
2013-02-19 09:58:47 AM  

DanInKansas: adenosine: People actually still use their web browser to access email instead of their phone? Between seeing the using the mail client that came with the start screen of Windows 8 and my phone's email client, I haven't ever needed to even try the web interface.

Do you know what they call a shower in France?


Rare?
 
2013-02-19 09:59:00 AM  
oh, you poor souls!!


do what you know in your geek heart is right.

Thunderbird.

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/

and open up a free Gmail account with 10.1 GB of free storage.


you'll thank Open Source software for it.  and Google too.
 
2013-02-19 10:02:19 AM  

the_rhino: Unobtanium: I got my @outlook.com address mostly to lock down the otherwise same name as my @gmail.com address. For me one of the big annoyances is MS pretty much refusing to acknowledge the native Android e-mail app, and trying to insist I install their app or use a mobile browser.

Wat?

I do the majority of my emailing via the native Android app, I use live/Outlook.com. I've never been prompted to install an Ms app, and the native email app set everything up automatically.


Didn't work for me after my last factory reset, and I forgot to write down/back-up the settings. The "official" outlook.com help page I found on the topic did not have the settings for a manual set-up, only a link to the app and advice on using mobile web access. I'd link to the page, but I am on my mobile.
 
2013-02-19 10:02:25 AM  

osiris111: I've had my hotmail account since 1995.  I still use it as my junk email account when I have to sign up for things.



well done!   almost like an Email outhouse if you will.
 
2013-02-19 10:03:50 AM  

Bored Horde: osiris111: I've had my hotmail account since 1995.  I still use it as my junk email account when I have to sign up for things.

My hotmail account from the 90s gets less spam than my gmail account.


spam goes where the users are.
 
2013-02-19 10:28:46 AM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Jon iz teh kewl: NOO different colors!!  how will i learn how to use it!!!!

Have you actually used it? It's an ergonomics case study in failure.


Yeah.  I didn't have a usability problem with it but I sure did have a visibility one--Hotmail is much clearer than Outlook.  I quickly went back.
 
2013-02-19 10:59:58 AM  
My aol.com account is still safe, right?
 
2013-02-19 11:12:45 AM  

DSanchez: adenosine: People actually still use their web browser to access email instead of their phone? Between seeing the using the mail client that came with the start screen of Windows 8 and my phone's email client, I haven't ever needed to even try the web interface.

You must be happily married..


I'm just trying to reconcile someone caring enough about emails to have opinions on it...
 
2013-02-19 11:21:30 AM  
I use Hotmail.

I'm not a huge email user. I get about 10 emails a month that I care about, about 100 emails a month that I don't mind, and about 1000 emails a month that are spam. Hotmail does a good job of separating them into folders so I don't ever have to see the spam.

And I use the Android Hotmail client on my phone which works just fine.
 
2013-02-19 11:27:09 AM  
I just use my phone which as my hotmail AND gmail accounts on it
 
2013-02-19 11:37:00 AM  
I do part-time work for an independent email company that provides accounts accessible over IMAP/POP. On the site there's a tutorial for configuring Outlook (as well as tutorials for other clients like Thunderbird) to access the service.

We've seen a marked increase in the number of users complaining that "Outlook" doesn't look the same as the images in the tutorial. It turns out they're confusing Outlook the mail client with Outlook.com the mail service and are trying to use the latter to access our service.

I understand that Microsoft wants to capitalize on the Outlook name but it really confuses the hell out of users.
 
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