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(South China Morning Post)   I dare you 200,000 yuan to swim in polluted river, entrepeneur tells Chinese environment chief   (scmp.com) divider line 43
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2013-02-19 08:24:13 AM  
Set the Wayback Machine to 1979 and you're on:

www.epa.gov
 
2013-02-19 09:31:11 AM  
one of the reasons (other than tax breaks and lower manufacturing costs) that prompted so many companies to move their manufacturing plants to china was due to the non-existence of any chinese environmental protection laws.  you can pretty much dump whatever you want straight into the ground water over there, no problem.  I think the only restriction is that it cant actually be on fire at the time you dump it.  other than that, pump whatever poison you want into the local water supply and have at it.
 
2013-02-19 09:50:49 AM  
$32,000? Yeah, I'd take that.
 
2013-02-19 10:00:56 AM  
I ain't falling for that one, I just saw the Korean film "The Host" so I know what a squid-like super mutant critter that's hopped up on formaldehyde can do to a person.
 
2013-02-19 10:09:43 AM  

brap: I ain't falling for that one, I just saw the Korean film "The Host" so I know what a squid-like super mutant critter that's hopped up on formaldehyde can do to a person.


Well that's what happens when you let the formaldehyde bottles get dusty.
 
2013-02-19 10:10:14 AM  

Weaver95: one of the reasons (other than tax breaks and lower manufacturing costs) that prompted so many companies to move their manufacturing plants to china was due to the non-existence of any chinese environmental protection laws.  you can pretty much dump whatever you want straight into the ground water over there, no problem.  I think the only restriction is that it cant actually be on fire at the time you dump it.  other than that, pump whatever poison you want into the local water supply and have at it.


Capitalism FTW!

/quarterly profits are all that matter, and I weep for us that believe it.
 
2013-02-19 10:11:04 AM  
/also, look up the music video for Epik High, Wannabe. It's rather entertaining after seeing the host.
 
2013-02-19 10:13:57 AM  

Weaver95: other than that, pump whatever poison you want into the local water supply and have at it.


Dilution is the solution for pollution...
 
2013-02-19 10:15:33 AM  

Weaver95: one of the reasons (other than tax breaks and lower manufacturing costs) that prompted so many companies to move their manufacturing plants to china was due to the non-existence of any chinese environmental protection laws.  you can pretty much dump whatever you want straight into the ground water over there, no problem.  I think the only restriction is that it cant actually be on fire at the time you dump it.  other than that, pump whatever poison you want into the local water supply and have at it.


However, look at that picture.  That's trash, not toxic chemicals.  While there might also be chemicals the official is right to say it's people dumping the trash.
 
2013-02-19 10:21:00 AM  
Nobody could swim in that, but walking on it should be a snap.
 
2013-02-19 10:21:16 AM  
Meh,  I've seen Naples harbor look just as bad.
 
2013-02-19 10:21:24 AM  
sfcitizen.com

Oblig
 
2013-02-19 10:22:43 AM  

ib_thinkin: $32,000? Yeah, I'd take that.


Someone died once when he fell into the Rouge River in Michigan.

I wouldn't take my chances in a polluted Chinese river for $32k.
 
2013-02-19 10:22:47 AM  

Mytch: brap: I ain't falling for that one, I just saw the Korean film "The Host" so I know what a squid-like super mutant critter that's hopped up on formaldehyde can do to a person.

Well that's what happens when you let the formaldehyde bottles get dusty.


Damn that was such a good movie.

/Worst Korea makes damn fine cinema
 
2013-02-19 10:23:43 AM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: ib_thinkin: $32,000? Yeah, I'd take that.

Someone died once when he fell into the Rouge River in Michigan.

I wouldn't take my chances in a polluted Chinese river for $32k.


I should probably clarify that he didn't die from drowning.  Having a biatch of a time finding a cite, though a reporter for the Detroit Free Press was the person who told me about it.

/shrug
 
2013-02-19 10:25:58 AM  
Damn you would think that would put a HUGE dent in the population of Mexico, or at least in the number of gardeners in SoCal.
 
2013-02-19 10:28:02 AM  
There are a few countries in the world that don't care about there children's future it makes me sick that some governments  seem  greedy short sighted and sick WOW what a world.
LukeC
 
2013-02-19 10:29:45 AM  

DoBeDoBeDo: Damn you would think that would put a HUGE dent in the population of Mexico, or at least in the number of gardeners in SoCal.


Well... it takes Juan to know yuan.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-02-19 10:32:45 AM  
Massachusetts Governor Weld dove into the Charles River to show how clean it was. (AP story) Then he quit his job and moved to Manhattan to become a socialite-novelist.  We think there must have been something in the water after all.
 
2013-02-19 10:34:04 AM  

Weaver95: one of the reasons (other than tax breaks and lower manufacturing costs) that prompted so many companies to move their manufacturing plants to china was due to the non-existence of any chinese environmental protection laws.  you can pretty much dump whatever you want straight into the ground water over there, no problem.  I think the only restriction is that it cant actually be on fire at the time you dump it.  other than that, pump whatever poison you want into the local water supply and have at it.


A Conservatives wet dream found only in China.

Oh the irony...
 
2013-02-19 10:36:34 AM  
I TLIPLE DOG DARE!
 
2013-02-19 10:38:38 AM  
That guy really should know better than to post things on the internet that are critical of the Chinese government.

I give 3/2 that his post disappears before he does.
 
2013-02-19 10:39:45 AM  

ajgeek: Weaver95: one of the reasons (other than tax breaks and lower manufacturing costs) that prompted so many companies to move their manufacturing plants to china was due to the non-existence of any chinese environmental protection laws.  you can pretty much dump whatever you want straight into the ground water over there, no problem.  I think the only restriction is that it cant actually be on fire at the time you dump it.  other than that, pump whatever poison you want into the local water supply and have at it.

Capitalism FTW!

/quarterly profits are all that matter, and I weep for us that believe it.


My wife calls that kind of Capitalism "Quarterly Capitalism" and I think the name fits.
 
2013-02-19 10:43:54 AM  

ElLoco: That guy really should know better than to post things on the internet that are critical of the Chinese government.

I give 3/2 that his post disappears before he does.


I figured the guy who offered the money would either publicly withdraw his dare or be found floating face down in the river.
 
2013-02-19 10:47:51 AM  
What is this featured partner shiat one thread below this one?
 
2013-02-19 10:52:52 AM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: StreetlightInTheGhetto: ib_thinkin: $32,000? Yeah, I'd take that.

Someone died once when he fell into the Rouge River in Michigan.

I wouldn't take my chances in a polluted Chinese river for $32k.

I should probably clarify that he didn't die from drowning.  Having a biatch of a time finding a cite, though a reporter for the Detroit Free Press was the person who told me about it.

/shrug


Unfortunately all the rivers in SE Michigan were/have been terrible for quite some time. The water quality is greatly improving in each of them, but you can still go down to the Clinton River at Red Run Drain and see how polluted that water is. The stuff doesn't FREEZE in the winter because of the chemicals that are in it. River Raisin got lit on fire at some point during the 80's I believe. It's way better but you still have flow problems because of all the farmers taking water from it, essentially killing the flow during the summer and causing it to turn into basically a REALLY long pond. The power plant at the end of the Raisin increases water temperatures in the river, and slows the flow down which stops alot of fish from running into it, not to mention any pollution from the plant. This is in addition to the 6+ dams in Monroe that stop fish runs.  And the Huron river was really bad because of all the pollution in Belleville and Ford Lakes. It's getting better, but way too slowly. I see people leaving shiat on the river banks all the time. I think people are just so used to the rivers being bad around here it doesn't matter any more to them. Kinda sad.
 
2013-02-19 10:58:17 AM  
If yo ever get nostalgic for 1960's America, you know, the employment, the economic growth, the cesspool environment, it's just been moved to China.

www.scmp.com
 
2013-02-19 11:06:32 AM  

The_Pirate: StreetlightInTheGhetto: StreetlightInTheGhetto: ib_thinkin: $32,000? Yeah, I'd take that.

Someone died once when he fell into the Rouge River in Michigan.

I wouldn't take my chances in a polluted Chinese river for $32k.

I should probably clarify that he didn't die from drowning.  Having a biatch of a time finding a cite, though a reporter for the Detroit Free Press was the person who told me about it.

/shrug

Unfortunately all the rivers in SE Michigan were/have been terrible for quite some time. The water quality is greatly improving in each of them, but you can still go down to the Clinton River at Red Run Drain and see how polluted that water is. The stuff doesn't FREEZE in the winter because of the chemicals that are in it. River Raisin got lit on fire at some point during the 80's I believe. It's way better but you still have flow problems because of all the farmers taking water from it, essentially killing the flow during the summer and causing it to turn into basically a REALLY long pond. The power plant at the end of the Raisin increases water temperatures in the river, and slows the flow down which stops alot of fish from running into it, not to mention any pollution from the plant. This is in addition to the 6+ dams in Monroe that stop fish runs.  And the Huron river was really bad because of all the pollution in Belleville and Ford Lakes. It's getting better, but way too slowly. I see people leaving shiat on the river banks all the time. I think people are just so used to the rivers being bad around here it doesn't matter any more to them. Kinda sad.


Red Run is f--king godawful.  Drove past it every day to go to high school.  There's some decent folks working on the Raisin now, although from what I heard from a kid who came in to my work for an interview they've been struggling a bit.

The Huron is a hellll of a lot better than it used to be, and in Ann Arbor/Dexter at least there's definitely a strong sense of "don't f--k this up again, okay?" (the Clinton is slowly getting to that point as well, albeit slower - increasing recreation on it like kayaks is gonna help that).  I swim in the Huron an awful lot during the summer (it pretty much got habit at work that 4-7 of us would just walk over and jump in once or twice a week) and haven't really seen any problems.  This is far upriver from the worst of it, though, and I've heard some ominous stories from folks living off Ford Lake on the *Ypsi* side.

Won't put my head underwater in Lake St Clair though... if I do swim it's because it's there, dammit.  But that's my compromise.

Anyway, I don't think people are just saying f--k it and throwing  more crap in the rivers (well... some people are, but they just suck).  But there is a really annoying problem of constantly blaming people upriver for all the woes and ills.  Especially in the Clinton River watershed.  I've had people tell me straight out that the entire problem is because of Oakland County.  Only Oakland.  All their fault.  I was born and raised in Macomb, STFU, everyone contributes to the mess the Clinton and Lake St Clair currently are.

/sorry if that didn't make sense, kind of / very hungover right now
//EIP though, you're the first person I've *ever* seen on Fark to name drop Red Run, I think
 
2013-02-19 11:08:51 AM  
Next Weeks News Today:

"Entrepreneur Jin Zengmin committed suicide last night. Police report that it appears Mr Zengmin tied himself in a burlap sack, before shooting himself in the back of the head two times and throwing himself into the Ruian river."
 
2013-02-19 11:12:36 AM  

AnubisMan: What is this featured partner shiat one thread below this one?


You mean: 15 of the dirtiest pictures rivers on the internet (featured partner)?
 
2013-02-19 11:13:33 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: Set the Wayback Machine to 1979 and you're on:

[www.epa.gov image 600x450]


Or even 1966.
www.badrecordcovers.com
 
2013-02-19 11:17:56 AM  
content6.flixster.com
 
2013-02-19 11:21:09 AM  
What is wrong with a little hepatitis?
 
2013-02-19 11:24:32 AM  
I dare you to swim in the Ganges.
 
2013-02-19 11:26:58 AM  

Free Radical: Weaver95: one of the reasons (other than tax breaks and lower manufacturing costs) that prompted so many companies to move their manufacturing plants to china was due to the non-existence of any chinese environmental protection laws.  you can pretty much dump whatever you want straight into the ground water over there, no problem.  I think the only restriction is that it cant actually be on fire at the time you dump it.  other than that, pump whatever poison you want into the local water supply and have at it.

A Conservatives wet dream found only in China.

Oh the irony...


Not really ironic, China has many very "right wing" views (that is to say, authoritarian, money loving, sxternalities be damned, etc). views.  Don't let the "socialist" sign on the door fool you.

The main difference seems so far to me, as an outsider, that their power is held by the rich farks  in the government, instead of the rich farks lobbying the government, like back in the states.  Those guys are about equally accountable to the people in either case.
 
2013-02-19 11:29:28 AM  

jigger: I dare you to swim in the Ganges.


People bathe in it every day.

Cremated bodies make decent soap.

ts4.mm.bing.net
 
2013-02-19 12:24:24 PM  
still cleaner than some parts of the Hudson

/serious
 
2013-02-19 12:45:41 PM  
This being Fark, I'm surprised that nobody else thought of this Naked Gun reference

encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2013-02-19 01:02:37 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: ib_thinkin: $32,000? Yeah, I'd take that.

Someone died once when he fell into the Rouge River in Michigan.

I wouldn't take my chances in a polluted Chinese river for $32k.


I got drunk once by falling into the Red Ceader river that goes through East Lansing.
 
2013-02-19 01:10:44 PM  

Cloudchaser Sakonige the Red Wolf: This being Fark, I'm surprised that nobody else thought of this Naked Gun reference


I LOVE IT!
 
2013-02-19 02:46:04 PM  
He will gain incredible mutant powers from his exposure to toxins, and will become a giant, unstoppable MEGA BUREAUCRAT.
 
2013-02-19 02:50:36 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: ib_thinkin: $32,000? Yeah, I'd take that.

Someone died once when he fell into the Rouge River in Michigan.


What happens when you throw bleu cheese into the Rouge River?
 
2013-02-19 07:14:49 PM  
200,000 yuan? As a Chinese government official, that's chump change for him.
 
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