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(Oregon Live)   11-year-old cancer survivor at the hospital getting treated for a head wound catches on fire because of a combination of hand sanitizer and static electricity   (oregonlive.com) divider line 38
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2013-02-19 08:19:53 AM  
Is this where we post our deep thoughts around how everyone is too obsessed with hand washing?
 
2013-02-19 08:28:48 AM  
Ta-da!
 
2013-02-19 08:28:58 AM  
sounds like an extreme case of "freak accident"...not doubting it happened, but what are the odds, really?

i rarely use the hand sanitizer (only when it's convenient option and i'm in a hurry), but i often have far too much static electricity built up...i hate cold dry days...i shock myself on everything metal i encounter!

/don't touch me, cuz i'm electric, and if you touch me, you'll get SHOCKED!
 
2013-02-19 08:29:13 AM  
Aw geeze, that poor child.  Goddamnitsomuch!
 
2013-02-19 08:30:00 AM  
He must be part of the Pepsi generation.

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2013-02-19 08:32:00 AM  
Shocking.
 
2013-02-19 08:32:13 AM  
Bet you couldn't see the hand on fire.
 
2013-02-19 08:32:20 AM  
...twisted...
 
2013-02-19 08:40:35 AM  
I submitted this one to mythbusters.
 
2013-02-19 08:40:52 AM  
Pardon me while I burn and rise above the flames....
 
2013-02-19 08:41:45 AM  
I think the last place that hand sanitizer should be used is a hospital. We are sure breeding some good super bugs there arent we!

Dr's and Nurses wash your freaking hands between patients!
 
2013-02-19 08:41:55 AM  
Somebody apparently REALLY wants this kid dead.  Two bouts of kidney cancer, head wounds, and now she catches on fire.  Seriously, wtf.

This kid has had one of the shiattiest lives imaginable. Poor thing.
 
2013-02-19 08:43:01 AM  
And yet, hospital are still a bad place to catch all the latest bugs... you go in for a broken arm, you leave with hepatitis or H1N1.

Them hand sanitizers sure are effective.
 
2013-02-19 08:45:40 AM  
Man god must really hate that kid.
 
2013-02-19 08:46:03 AM  

Onkel Buck: Pardon me while I burn and rise above the flames....


that was stellar!
 
2013-02-19 08:48:22 AM  

imfallen_angel: And yet, hospital are still a bad place to catch all the latest bugs... you go in for a broken arm, you leave with hepatitis or H1N1.

Them hand sanitizers sure are effective.


You should read Puswhisperer.  On average, health professionals (even doctors) wash their hands less frequently than most fast food workers.

So yeah, sanitizer isn't as effective as hand washing, but it's something.
 
2013-02-19 08:49:06 AM  

Onkel Buck: Pardon me while I burn and rise above the flames....


i am sure he's had enough of these people mindless games
 
2013-02-19 09:00:27 AM  
Hand sanitizer: Great aginst most bacteria, some viruses and poor against fungi.
Soap and water: Great against most bacteria, most viruses and most fungi.
Hand wash pretending to be soap and water: Poor against bacteria, viruses and fungi.
Water: ok against most bacteria, viruses and some fungi.

Alcohol is a waste product of fungi.  They are happy living in it.
The big problem is real soap drys out the skin if used too much.
Lots of things love to live in oils near skin.
You're what is for dinner!
 
2013-02-19 09:09:16 AM  

DON.MAC: Hand sanitizer: Great aginst most bacteria, some viruses and poor against fungi.
Soap and water: Great against most bacteria, most viruses and most fungi.
Hand wash pretending to be soap and water: Poor against bacteria, viruses and fungi.
Water: ok against most bacteria, viruses and some fungi.

Alcohol is a waste product of fungi.  They are happy living in it.
The big problem is real soap drys out the skin if used too much.
Lots of things love to live in oils near skin.
You're what is for dinner!


I need to find a CDC sticker that states this along with handwashing instructions.  If I recall even be part of the literature on the hand sanitizers suggest hand washing whenever possible.  It really creeps me out to see hand sanitizer in the bathrooms.  Hand washing is better, and the thought of 'sanitary poop' smeared on someones hands really grosses me out.

Also a spark is rarely sustained long enough to reach a flash point so I'm skeptical.
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2013-02-19 09:11:13 AM  

DON.MAC: Hand sanitizer: Great aginst most bacteria, some viruses and poor against fungi.
Soap and water: Great against most bacteria, most viruses and most fungi.
Hand wash pretending to be soap and water: Poor against bacteria, viruses and fungi.
Water: ok against most bacteria, viruses and some fungi.

Alcohol is a waste product of fungi.  They are happy living in it.
The big problem is real soap drys out the skin if used too much.
Lots of things love to live in oils near skin.
You're what is for dinner!


citations needed...especially about the fungus amongus

/dries
 
2013-02-19 09:11:54 AM  
What an 11 year old pyromaniac cancer survivor may look like:
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2013-02-19 09:23:34 AM  
Kid goes by the name "Lucky"
 
2013-02-19 09:28:36 AM  
That's some Final Destination-level shenanigans there.
 
2013-02-19 09:32:10 AM  

bungle_jr: citations needed...especially about the fungus amongus


See if you can find the CDC advice mentioned by TheGogmagog
Or get a bottle of stuff and see what is in it.  Then see if any of that is a fungicide.
Water mostly works by flushing stuff away.  Soap works by breaking the bonds between stuff and your hands so the water can flush it away.
Most fungi are water proof, alcohol proof, and ion proof so they need to by physically removed and moving water does that very well.
 
2013-02-19 09:35:39 AM  

Babwa Wawa: On average, health professionals (even doctors) wash their hands less frequently than most fast food workers.


So if a doc uses these things all day and keeps adjusting his tie, is there a chance his neck will catch fire?

/Aren't doctor's ties still considered the least sanitary thing in a hospital?
 
2013-02-19 09:36:16 AM  
The drill last time I was in the hospital seemed to be: hand wash at beginning of shift and in between patients, and foam after touching anything not sanitized.

But the foam is basically ethyl alcohol that is quick to vaporize. ("quick drying")
 
2013-02-19 09:50:04 AM  

DON.MAC: bungle_jr: citations needed...especially about the fungus amongus

See if you can find the CDC advice mentioned by TheGogmagog
Or get a bottle of stuff and see what is in it.  Then see if any of that is a fungicide.
Water mostly works by flushing stuff away.  Soap works by breaking the bonds between stuff and your hands so the water can flush it away.
Most fungi are water proof, alcohol proof, and ion proof so they need to by physically removed and moving water does that very well.


what i really wanted an explanation of is "Alcohol is a waste product of fungi". the washing part i believe to be true. fungus, however, is not sugar. of all the things i've ever heard of alcohol being produced from (various grains, fruits, etc), never have i heard of mushroom alcohol. i could be wrong, not an alcohol expert, but i've never heard of it, nor have i found any mention of it in my googling, etc
 
2013-02-19 10:18:52 AM  
www.licklibrary.com

I appreciate you sanitizing before we shook hands, Bob.
 
2013-02-19 10:20:51 AM  
mommylife.net

Thank God this was pre-ObamaCare.
During the reign of terror known to historians as ObamaCare, he'd have been taxed for the privilege of having a burnt scalp, then evicted from his home when he could afford to pay the parking lot fees for the government doctors who came from trhe Death Panels to put him to sleep so he wouldn't be a burden on the nursing staff.
 
2013-02-19 11:06:59 AM  
 
2013-02-19 11:59:48 AM  

bungle_jr: what i really wanted an explanation of is "Alcohol is a waste product of fungi". the washing part i believe to be true. fungus, however, is not sugar. of all the things i've ever heard of alcohol being produced from (various grains, fruits, etc), never have i heard of mushroom alcohol. i could be wrong, not an alcohol expert, but i've never heard of it, nor have i found any mention of it in my googling, etc


You get alcohol from sugar by fermentation.

Fermentation is performed by microorganisms, most importantly yeast.

Yeast is a type of fungus. It consumes sugar, and excretes alcohol.

Alcohol will kill fungi with high enough concentration and long enough exposure. But a quick wipe with hand sanitizer will leave a lot more fungal survivors than bacterial survivors.
 
2013-02-19 12:02:17 PM  

LadyBelgara: Somebody apparently REALLY wants this kid dead.  Two bouts of kidney cancer, head wounds, and now she catches on fire.  Seriously, wtf.

This kid has had one of the shiattiest lives imaginable. Poor thing.


Seriously.  What god did her parents piss off?
 
2013-02-19 12:26:06 PM  

Babwa Wawa: Is this where we post our deep thoughts around how everyone is too obsessed with hand washing?


FTA: Ireland was due to leave the hospital the day of the fire. The last thing she recalls that day is using sanitizer to clean the table that rolled over her bed, where she had painted a wooden box as a gift for her nurses.
 
2013-02-19 01:21:07 PM  

booger42: Aw geeze, that poor child.  Goddamnitsomuch!


God has a plan for this child.  It's probably pro-choice.
 
2013-02-19 02:19:31 PM  
"Think someone could spend half their life in a slam fighting cancer with a horse bit in their mouth recent head injury and not believe? Think he could start out in some liquor store trash bin with an umbilical cord wrapped around his neck go to a hospital for treatment only to catch on fire, and not believe? Got it all wrong, holy man. I absolutely believe in God... And I absolutely hate the farker."

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2013-02-19 03:06:05 PM  
I always knew someone was eventually going to do this.  I was hoping it was a skeevy stripper or a soccer mom with a van full of kids.  I'm sad that it was a little cancer patient girl.  :(

What the fark, idiots.  You put FLAMMABLE LIQUID on your farking hands, what did you expect to happen?
 
2013-02-19 03:48:21 PM  
hospital are still a bad place to catch all the latest bugs

no, they are the BEST place to catch bugs
 
2013-02-19 07:34:30 PM  

bungle_jr: what i really wanted an explanation of is "Alcohol is a waste product of fungi". the washing part i believe to be true. fungus, however, is not sugar. of all the things i've ever heard of alcohol being produced from (various grains, fruits, etc), never have i heard of mushroom alcohol. i could be wrong, not an alcohol expert, but i've never heard of it, nor have i found any mention of it in my googling, etc


Yeast is a fungi. Alcohol is made by yeast from sugars.
 
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