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(Huffington Post)   What were you doing when you were 20 years old? This kid was raising $2.4 million on Kickstarter to fund an honest to goodness virtual reality headset   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 65
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2013-02-18 11:50:15 PM
I went to eality once. Rome in particular was awesome.
 
2013-02-19 12:05:28 AM
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2013-02-19 12:13:18 AM
I hate eels.
 
2013-02-19 12:37:54 AM
The Oculus Rift is an virtual reality simulator specifically for video games.

Yeah, this is never going to get made.
But hey, he's got $2.4 million so there's that.
 
2013-02-19 01:10:40 AM
Eh, not really virtual reality. More like a really, really expensive joystick with goggles.
 
2013-02-19 01:35:25 AM
Twenty years ago I was playing games using a virtual reality headset.  And I haven't since because people figured out that "virtual reality" pretty much sucks.

Of course, computing power and video technology has changed a lot over the last two decades. Make it fun and maybe people will play.  I'm doubtful, though, the market seems to indicate that people don't really like technologies that require them to wear shiat on their faces.
 
2013-02-19 02:57:31 AM
I think this is going to actually hit it big. It's going to have low latency and have a decent resolution.

this is a solid "DO WANT!"
 
2013-02-19 03:03:01 AM
Just because you gave someone $50 on Kickstarter doesn't guarantee that it'll actually get made. There's been quite a few times where someone promises to make something really awesome and give the donors cool perks as compensation, then take the money and produce nothing at all.

And $2.4 Million for a VR head set? Nintendo spent at least 10x that much (in 1995 dollars) on the Virtual Boy, and all we got was a headache-inducing, crimson-stained mess.
 
2013-02-19 03:05:35 AM
I like the idea of crowd-sourced funding that Kickstarter provides, but if I'm putting up capital, I'd like a little more return than a t-shirt or a newsletter. How about percentage of profits? Or equity?

I've been told that I don't "get it". But I get it. It's just that I have enough t-shirts already.
 
2013-02-19 03:22:12 AM
Kinect.

First-person shooter with kinect compatibility.

Big-ass projection TV.

Bare white wall, or wall that can be painted white.

Decent speakers.

Yeah... this is more like 4-500 bucks, 24mil$ is a bit high on development costs.

//Unless he's coming up with some magical way to cancel the momentum and feel of absurdly heavy goggles and shiat.
 
2013-02-19 03:27:50 AM

viscountalpha: I think this is going to actually hit it big. It's going to have low latency and have a decent resolution.

this is a solid "DO WANT!"


Depends.
Not many people want to hang an extra pound on their head for extended amounts of time.

When this gets as light as a pair of reading glasses you may see bigger adoption.
This is cool, but it's a step in the right direction and not the destination.
 
2013-02-19 03:36:45 AM

Virtual Pariah: viscountalpha: I think this is going to actually hit it big. It's going to have low latency and have a decent resolution.

this is a solid "DO WANT!"

Depends.
Not many people want to hang an extra pound on their head for extended amounts of time.

When this gets as light as a pair of reading glasses you may see bigger adoption.
This is cool, but it's a step in the right direction and not the destination.


As long as there are glasses of any sort, it's not going to catch on. Listen, I wear glasses every day in order to fumble my way through daily life. These glasses, light as they are, still require near-constant tweaks, cleanings, and balancing. Were these virtual reality glasses as light as a pair of reading glasses, I would still need to fit them in front of my normal glasses, much like how I - as a jackass - watched Avatar.
 
2013-02-19 03:59:59 AM
FTA: "As I have written before, technology seems to be getting better at a terrifying rate. "

Murray Rosenbaum, you are 15 years old. In terms of console gaming, you would have most likely gotten your start a few years before the current gen consoles were released (at the earliest)... very terrifying indeed.
 
2013-02-19 04:03:51 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Virtual Pariah: viscountalpha: I think this is going to actually hit it big. It's going to have low latency and have a decent resolution.

this is a solid "DO WANT!"

Depends.
Not many people want to hang an extra pound on their head for extended amounts of time.

When this gets as light as a pair of reading glasses you may see bigger adoption.
This is cool, but it's a step in the right direction and not the destination.

As long as there are glasses of any sort, it's not going to catch on. Listen, I wear glasses every day in order to fumble my way through daily life. These glasses, light as they are, still require near-constant tweaks, cleanings, and balancing. Were these virtual reality glasses as light as a pair of reading glasses, I would still need to fit them in front of my normal glasses, much like how I - as a jackass - watched Avatar.


Given that the glasses themselves would be generating the image, wouldn't it then be possible to enter in user customization data to account for most standard vision problems? You'd at least be down to just the one pair of glasses instead of two while using them.
 
2013-02-19 04:28:10 AM

Ramien: Given that the glasses themselves would be generating the image, wouldn't it then be possible to enter in user customization data to account for most standard vision problems? You'd at least be down to just the one pair of glasses instead of two while using them


If these glasses are generating an image that corrects for standard vision problems, this 20-year-old is a colossal moron for using the technology to play Super Mario Bros. instead of, you know, using the technology to create a pair of glasses that automatically adjusts to account for most vision problems. I love games and all, but you would have to be a farking moron to hold in your hands a pair of glasses that could be updated wirelessly to provide you with the clearest sight possible, and instead decide that playing Resident Evil in 3D was the best use of this technology.

It's not like wearing glasses is some rare disorder.
 
2013-02-19 04:37:17 AM
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Throw in NVGs, infra-red camera, noise cancelling earphones, silent cooling system, smartphone adapter, and eye control capability please.
 
2013-02-19 05:45:55 AM
Virtual reality? Oh man, I miss 1995!
 
2013-02-19 05:59:46 AM
I guess "3D printing" and "private space" have been mined out. Time to fleece suckers with more dead ideas from the past, I guess. Try Kickstarting the leisure society, please. At least pick some dead ideas that would actually be useful.
 
2013-02-19 06:13:46 AM

GranoblasticMan: Virtual reality? Oh man, I miss 1995!


Moore's Law would like a word with you.
 
2013-02-19 06:20:06 AM
I just once want to see someone writing an update from his newly bought personal island in a country with no extradition treaty thanking all the suckers for their money.

/yes, I have backed kickstarter projects
 
2013-02-19 06:22:30 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: I guess "3D printing" and "private space" have been mined out.


...Cause when we think of ideas that aren't panning out, we think of 3d printing and private space.

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Virtual reality found its uses in Universities, research groups, and with the military. But the cost of equipment kept these devices from being popular in the entertainment industry.   Bringing the costs down means you'll find more applications, especially in the game industry.

/I think its been a chicken and egg kind of problem.
/The device lacks its killer app because people won't spend absurd amounts of money on something without a killer app.
/Make one cheap enough to hock on those COD kiddies and you won't be found alive online without it.
 
2013-02-19 06:30:40 AM
What was I doing at 20?

Desert Storm
 
2013-02-19 06:49:06 AM
What were you doing when you were 20 years old?


Pulling my pud. Constantly.
 
2013-02-19 06:54:38 AM
There could be no pursuit more noble.
 
2013-02-19 06:58:27 AM
If he doesn't produce this, does that mean he will have to actually interact with real girls to get laid?
 
2013-02-19 07:08:04 AM
What were you doing when you were 20 years old?

Helping to protect this nation from the possibility of a sneak attack by monitoring the communications of a large communist foreign country.  That, and getting drunk and laid as often as possible.
 
2013-02-19 07:13:41 AM
What were you doing when you were 20 years old?

I was sitting in a tank near the Czech border, freezing my ass off.

This kid went to a site on the internet and asked for money.
Heroism indeed.
 
2013-02-19 07:14:57 AM

way south: Quantum Apostrophe: I guess "3D printing" and "private space" have been mined out.

...Cause when we think of ideas that aren't panning out, we think of 3d printing and private space.




More like when we think ideas that the media has got a boner for but 99.99% of people have no access to we think 3D printing a private space.
 
2013-02-19 07:16:46 AM
At around the age of twenty, I was reviewing plans for VR headsets and trying to decide if I was going to make one. This was around the year 2000, and I had no money, so in the end, I didn't bother.
 
2013-02-19 07:21:46 AM
This is actually going to be a big deal.He's come up with a cost effective and HIGHLY efficient design. The visual resolution and field of view in these things is better than any VR headset that's been released so far.

It's not only stereoscopic, but also 3D.

On top of that he's getting major backing from industry heavy weights like Valve, Epic, and ID software. This thing is legit.
 
2013-02-19 07:27:24 AM

mcgreggers99: This is actually going to be a big deal.


I've seen the public clamoring for it, but I still don't see the appeal. Then again, I never have any issues with immersion. It'd be a fun novelty, but I can't see actually using it to play games. Maybe I'm just old.
 
2013-02-19 07:28:50 AM

mcgreggers99: This is actually going to be a big deal.He's come up with a cost effective and HIGHLY efficient design. The visual resolution and field of view in these things is better than any VR headset that's been released so far.

It's not only stereoscopic, but also 3D.

On top of that he's getting major backing from industry heavy weights like Valve, Epic, and ID software. This thing is legit.


Exactly. Apparently no one in this thread can be bothered to look this thing up. Everyone that has touched the headset has loved it and the price point should be $300-$400. It'll be a BFD.
 
2013-02-19 07:32:15 AM
It will be niche if it ever actually gets produced.
 
2013-02-19 07:37:44 AM

doglover: way south: Quantum Apostrophe: I guess "3D printing" and "private space" have been mined out.

...Cause when we think of ideas that aren't panning out, we think of 3d printing and private space.

More like when we think ideas that the media has got a boner for but 99.99% of people have no access to we think 3D printing a private space.


You can go out there and buy a desktop sized 3d printer,  with money!
Yea its not as accessible as an inkjet due to the complexity, but give it time.

So far as space, that's going to take more doing. But its come a hell of alot further than we were in the nineties.  Government space programs weren't designed to turn a profit and their passenger lists were exclusive pools of top scientists and political favorites.
The general public can't afford tickets to space now (anymore than they could have afforded to fly across the Atlantic in the 1930's) but the industry is finally working in our direction.

Virtual reality was thought up in a day when computers and monitors were expensive and heavy.
The equipment has gotten better and the prices have come down.  Many people have cell phones that can run augmented reality apps.
Its not as big as leap to making a cheap vr headset as it used to be.
 
2013-02-19 07:40:03 AM
What was I doing?

RIP, IIRC, early 20 anyway.
 
2013-02-19 07:43:32 AM

way south: Its not as big as leap to making a cheap vr headset as it used to be.


I just don't understand why I'd want a cheap VR headset. I'd much rather be able to create a  shared space. I'm noticing a lot of technology lately has been focused on a solipsistic approach- creating a space where only you exist, and then using networking to allow others to experience it with you. I'd much rather be able to project a shared space on the physical world around me, like that XBox demo video that's been going around.
 
2013-02-19 07:43:44 AM

way south: Quantum Apostrophe: I guess "3D printing" and "private space" have been mined out.

...Cause when we think of ideas that aren't panning out, we think of 3d printing and private space.

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Virtual reality found its uses in Universities, research groups, and with the military. But the cost of equipment kept these devices from being popular in the entertainment industry.   Bringing the costs down means you'll find more applications, especially in the game industry.

/I think its been a chicken and egg kind of problem.
/The device lacks its killer app because people won't spend absurd amounts of money on something without a killer app.
/Make one cheap enough to hock on those COD kiddies and you won't be found alive online without it.


Yes, 20 year old technology that exists for professional use means that suddenly it will change the world when a bunch of hobbyists put a glue gun on a stepper motor in their living room. Communication satellites that have been going to the same place for 50 years mean that suddenly today we'll colonize the galaxy. Putting a TV screen in goggles suddenly means Lawnmower Man.

Be a realist is all I ask.
 
2013-02-19 07:51:39 AM
What was I doing at 20?

L.S.D....motorcycles...camping...L.S. D.
 
2013-02-19 07:54:01 AM

JRoo: What was I doing at 20?

L.S.D....motorcycles...camping...L.S. D.


So you were ahead of the curve on this virtual reality stuff. No goggles required.
 
2013-02-19 07:55:31 AM
The Occulus Rift is real, and I tried it at CES. It was actually pretty amazing, and more immersive than any virtual reality headset or video glasses I ever tried, though that might just be because higher resolution displays that can fit inside a headset are much easier to make now than, say, the 90's. It compared very favorably to Sony's latest 3D video glasses, though. Head tracking was spot-on, and the 3D effect worked really, really well (to the point that I really want a Mirror's Edge version that works with the Rift, so I can have the most fun barf fest ever). They're getting dev kits out, but we're still a ways off to seeing it in stores. If it was just a head-mounted display it would be fine, but the head tracking needs its own coding, which is why devs need at least a few months to work with the thing before it can be used by consumers at all.

Also, misused hero tag, and it's not exactly news.
 
2013-02-19 08:01:42 AM
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You'll forgive me if I don't stay around to watch. I just can't cope with the freaky stuff.
 
2013-02-19 08:05:25 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: Be a realist is all I ask.


A realist would notice that technology advances relative to the efforts put into it.
Who cares if the method seems simple. Doing complex things in simple ways is the holy grail of engineering. It makes these things more affordable and accessible to the consumer.

/The point of private space isn't that satellites still go to orbit, its that anyone can buy a ticket to orbit. Its about opening access to new markets.
/Bigger markets mean more development, and more effort to advancing these technologies.
 
2013-02-19 08:17:22 AM
Yes, because there's such a huge market here that various companies have been sitting on this tech for a decade and not trying to market it or develop it in to something they can market...

If all it took was a couple million to make VR viable, then it would already be here.
 
2013-02-19 08:18:08 AM

dittybopper: You'll forgive me if I don't stay around to watch. I just can't cope with the freaky stuff.


So if I use this thing I get to have kinky sex with Debbie Harry? I'm in.
 
2013-02-19 08:32:27 AM

randomjsa: Yes, because there's such a huge market here


To be fair, if there's one thing that large companies are terrible at, it's identifying new markets. Large companies are fairly primitive reward-seeking intelligences. Once they find a source of reward, they're going to quickly habituate to it, and they aren't going to seek out new sources. Instead, they'll optimize their exploitation of that specific economic niche. Hence the infinitude of Madden games, the copy-paste FPSes, and so on.

So no, I wouldn't expect anything groundbreaking in this field to come from an established peripheral maker or game company, except  maybe Valve, but Valve is run as a small company with a very flat organizational structure (much like Apple), which sort of becomes the exception that proves the rule. And Valve is tied up in improving the monetization of their online storefront (which is what the SteamBox is really about), so they're showing signs of turning into "a big boy" organization.
 
2013-02-19 08:33:14 AM

mcgreggers99: This is actually going to be a big deal.He's come up with a cost effective and HIGHLY efficient design. The visual resolution and field of view in these things is better than any VR headset that's been released so far.

It's not only stereoscopic, but also 3D.

On top of that he's getting major backing from industry heavy weights like Valve, Epic, and ID software. This thing is legit.


Well, if industry heavyweights back it, it must be wonderful.  As long as it works on my 3D TV and doesn't interfere with my Betamax and laserdisc player, I'm in!  Couple Arch deluxe burgers, a six pack of New Coke and I'm ready to be wowed by this sure-fire product hit.
 
2013-02-19 08:48:07 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: dittybopper: You'll forgive me if I don't stay around to watch. I just can't cope with the freaky stuff.

So if I use this thing I get to have kinky sex with Debbie Harry? I'm in.


You did see the end of the movie, right?

/All hail the new flesh.
 
2013-02-19 08:58:41 AM
At twenty, I was using my own virtual reality headset, it was called pot and I was buying it with my own money.

/and you call my country 'socialist'?
 
2013-02-19 09:25:35 AM
Its funny, most people don't realize what this kid has done. He literally strapped two iPhone's to your face. Boom best VR headset resolution to date.
 
2013-02-19 09:40:59 AM

dittybopper: Tyrone Slothrop: dittybopper: You'll forgive me if I don't stay around to watch. I just can't cope with the freaky stuff.

So if I use this thing I get to have kinky sex with Debbie Harry? I'm in.

You did see the end of the movie, right?

/All hail the new flesh.


It would be worth it.
 
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