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2013-02-18 02:58:32 PM
You misspelled "brown", Subby.
 
2013-02-18 03:00:20 PM
so you really can flog a one eyed pope?!
 
2013-02-18 03:12:38 PM
"you must be this swarthy to be pope or his constituents"

i780.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-18 03:33:43 PM
encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

RIP
 
2013-02-18 03:41:18 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: so you really can flog a one eyed pope?!


Can't he just touch himself and miraculously heal it?
 
2013-02-18 03:41:23 PM
God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass
 
2013-02-18 03:42:17 PM
Reported by the Inquisitr? I bet he didn't expect that.
 
2013-02-18 03:42:31 PM

ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass


I always hoped for a lightning bolt, myself
 
2013-02-18 03:43:33 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass

I always hoped for a lightning bolt, myself


For bonus points, the bolt needs to hit about 5 seconds after the Pope says something homophobic.
 
2013-02-18 03:44:46 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass

I always hoped for a lightning bolt, myself


a57.foxnews.com
Lightning bolts are too Greek. Yaweh likes his fire and brimstone.
 
2013-02-18 03:45:52 PM
I have as much authority as the Pope.
I just don't have as many people who believe it.
 
2013-02-18 03:46:23 PM

ha-ha-guy: MaudlinMutantMollusk: ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass

I always hoped for a lightning bolt, myself

For bonus points, the bolt needs to hit about 5 seconds after the Pope says something homophobic.


Hehe...

"And don't listen to the jews! They'll try to tell you their religion was first! But ours is the one TRUE religion!"

ZAP
 
2013-02-18 03:48:57 PM
"Benedict, 85, has had an assortment of health challenges during his time as head of the Catholic Church which resulted for one thing in a secret procedure to install a pacemaker and later a new battery."

Does anybody else find this an incredibly confusingly written sentence?
 
2013-02-18 03:49:01 PM
What about the one-eyed bishop?
 
2013-02-18 03:49:15 PM
Nobody expects the Inquisitr!
 
2013-02-18 03:51:31 PM
Upon his retirement he will be given an eye patch and a parrot.
 
2013-02-18 03:52:53 PM
The Obvious tag taking a late lunch?
 
2013-02-18 03:53:14 PM

ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass


I love that when he steps down, he 'loses infallibility'. A term I found hilarious ever since John Paul II fell down the stairs and injured himself. "But he's infallible!!"

Hahahaha..... ok... well I think its HILARIOUS.


please don't judge me
 
2013-02-18 03:54:28 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass

I always hoped for a lightning bolt, myself


But, only after a golf game.
 
2013-02-18 03:54:49 PM

epoch_destroi: Does anybody else find this an incredibly confusingly written sentence?


Pope. Caught sayof sex abuse scandals. Is he Third Eye Blind? Inquisitr says yes.
 
JFC
2013-02-18 03:55:19 PM
Incarcerate the half-blind child-rapist protecting farker.
 
2013-02-18 03:56:39 PM
www.depa.net.au
 
2013-02-18 03:56:58 PM
I'm sure there's something in the Bible about this.
 
2013-02-18 03:58:05 PM
Eh, his body is checking out. He might as well too. That must've been the thinking behind his decision to quit.
 
2013-02-18 04:00:46 PM

Oznog: The Stealth Hippopotamus: so you really can flog a one eyed pope?!

Can't he just touch himself and miraculously heal it?


Based on what I have heard about the papal porn stash, he needs to take some time not touching himself to let it heal.
 
2013-02-18 04:01:47 PM

Acharne: ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass

I love that when he steps down, he 'loses infallibility'. A term I found hilarious ever since John Paul II fell down the stairs and injured himself. "But he's infallible!!"

Hahahaha..... ok... well I think its HILARIOUS.


please don't judge me


Sadly these days the Pope is only infallible when speaking on religious issues and exercising his office.  At one point was supposedly 24/7, but I guess that presented some problems, so now it is only when making rulings or publishing works.
 
2013-02-18 04:01:52 PM
" 'His body had become so thin that the tailors had difficulty in keeping up with newly fitted clothes .. I'd never seen him so exhausted-looking, so worn down ...' "

What, it's a farking robe. It's not like it needs to be tailored to fit.
 
2013-02-18 04:02:17 PM

Acharne: ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass

I love that when he steps down, he 'loses infallibility'. A term I found hilarious ever since John Paul II fell down the stairs and injured himself. "But he's infallible!!"

Hahahaha..... ok... well I think its HILARIOUS.


please don't judge me


Hey now; the pope is only infallible sometimes. He has to be wearing his special Pope hat (Miter), have his special Pope staff(ferula), sit in his special Pope chair( the chair of st.peter), wear his special Pope scarf( no idea)and speak only regarding matters of the faith. Then and only then is the Pope is infallible.
 
2013-02-18 04:02:24 PM
Hearing all this guys health problems now, it sounds like he will be dead before they even pick a new pope.
 
2013-02-18 04:03:49 PM
So turns out God's a biatch when it comes to giving his messenger a little better health

/no preferential treatment I guess?
 
2013-02-18 04:04:10 PM

ha-ha-guy: /I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass


ITT - Those classy atheists!
 
2013-02-18 04:06:48 PM

Corvus: Hearing all this guys health problems now, it sounds like he will be dead before they even pick a new pope.


Could be 2 weeks.
 
2013-02-18 04:07:04 PM
cdn.inquisitr.com
 
2013-02-18 04:07:56 PM

iheartscotch: Acharne: ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass

I love that when he steps down, he 'loses infallibility'. A term I found hilarious ever since John Paul II fell down the stairs and injured himself. "But he's infallible!!"

Hahahaha..... ok... well I think its HILARIOUS.


please don't judge me

Hey now; the pope is only infallible sometimes. He has to be wearing his special Pope hat (Miter), have his special Pope staff(ferula), sit in his special Pope chair( the chair of st.peter), wear his special Pope scarf( no idea)and speak only regarding matters of the faith. Then and only then is the Pope is infallible.


*Inphallible.
 
2013-02-18 04:08:31 PM
THE POPE HAS FULL BLOWN AIDS
 
2013-02-18 04:08:33 PM

Oznog: The Stealth Hippopotamus: so you really can flog a one eyed pope?!

Can't he just touch himself and miraculously heal it?


Or he could get a little boy to touch him. I am not sure what healing properties it has, but the priests tell the Pope that it works great!
 
2013-02-18 04:09:47 PM
It is amazing how the subtleties of language fail even the most powerful... Suffer the little children != make the little children suffer.
 
2013-02-18 04:10:10 PM

WhoopAssWayne: ha-ha-guy: /I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass

ITT - Those classy atheists!


Why do you assume I'm an atheist?
 
2013-02-18 04:10:34 PM
Literally watching a doc about this topic right now.  http://www.cbc.ca/passionateeye/episode/mea-maxima-culpa-silence-in-t h e-house-of-god.html  (sorry, Canada  only I think).  The title is "Mea maxima culpa: Silence in the house of god" and it's worth seeking out. Tons of interviews and info I'd never heard about.
 
2013-02-18 04:10:48 PM

vernonFL: [encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 252x200]

RIP


I don't get it, he's resigning so his next surgery can be a sex change?
 
2013-02-18 04:11:15 PM

JFC: Incarcerate the half-blind child-rapist protecting farker.


until after the trial.
then hang his scummy ass in the streets.
nazi kid toucher.
 
2013-02-18 04:12:55 PM

ha-ha-guy: Acharne: ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass

I love that when he steps down, he 'loses infallibility'. A term I found hilarious ever since John Paul II fell down the stairs and injured himself. "But he's infallible!!"

Hahahaha..... ok... well I think its HILARIOUS.


please don't judge me

Sadly these days the Pope is only infallible when speaking on religious issues and exercising his office.  At one point was supposedly 24/7, but I guess that presented some problems, so now it is only when making rulings or publishing works.


Actually, the Pope is not considered infallible even when speaking on religious issues.  Only certain special statements of dogma are considered infallible.  Benedict has not issued any such statements during his time as Pope.
 
2013-02-18 04:15:02 PM
I'm sure when JC founded his church on a rock, he envisioned a church with its own country, bureaucracy and court system. Billions of dollars of assets. Gilded everything. Idol worship. And the power to deny naughty people entrance into heaven.
 
2013-02-18 04:16:10 PM

xaratherus: iheartscotch: Acharne: ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass

I love that when he steps down, he 'loses infallibility'. A term I found hilarious ever since John Paul II fell down the stairs and injured himself. "But he's infallible!!"

Hahahaha..... ok... well I think its HILARIOUS.


please don't judge me

Hey now; the pope is only infallible sometimes. He has to be wearing his special Pope hat (Miter), have his special Pope staff(ferula), sit in his special Pope chair( the chair of st.peter), wear his special Pope scarf( no idea)and speak only regarding matters of the faith. Then and only then is the Pope is infallible.

*Inphallible.


Look, I know he's not your lord and savior, the emperor of earth, the greatest man who ever lived and the son of the sun god; but he deserves a better penis joke than that.

I mean, come on! That's only one step higher than comparing the hooked end of a crosier to the floppy bits of a donkey.
 
2013-02-18 04:16:50 PM

Acharne: ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass

I love that when he steps down, he 'loses infallibility'. A term I found hilarious ever since John Paul II fell down the stairs and injured himself. "But he's infallible!!"

Hahahaha..... ok... well I think its HILARIOUS.


please don't judge me


Infalible only in church doctrine. Otherwise he's gotta obey the laws of gravity.
 
2013-02-18 04:18:56 PM

vudukungfu: JFC: Incarcerate the half-blind child-rapist protecting farker.

until after the trial.
then hang his scummy ass in the streets.
nazi kid toucher.


And those are his good points, imo.

If you give the church a cent, you're saying child rape is OK with you.
Put them out of business, and in prison.
 
2013-02-18 04:21:12 PM

xaratherus: iheartscotch: Acharne: ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass

I love that when he steps down, he 'loses infallibility'. A term I found hilarious ever since John Paul II fell down the stairs and injured himself. "But he's infallible!!"

Hahahaha..... ok... well I think its HILARIOUS.


please don't judge me

Hey now; the pope is only infallible sometimes. He has to be wearing his special Pope hat (Miter), have his special Pope staff(ferula), sit in his special Pope chair( the chair of st.peter), wear his special Pope scarf( no idea)and speak only regarding matters of the faith. Then and only then is the Pope is infallible.

*Inphallible.


Infallible sounds best in a Daffy Duck voice.
 
2013-02-18 04:22:04 PM

JFC: Incarcerate the half-blind child-rapist protecting farker.


What, you find out the pope's a cyborg nazi cyclops and suddenly you want to burn him alive?
 
2013-02-18 04:23:26 PM
jokesprank.com
 
2013-02-18 04:23:40 PM
Soooo...he had a stroke? Or a few? Or cancer with mets to the brain?
 
2013-02-18 04:26:22 PM

DrowningLessons: Reported by the Inquisitr? I bet he didn't expect that.


So this. My first thought as well.
 
2013-02-18 04:28:52 PM
I guess his faith was not strong enough.
 
2013-02-18 04:29:24 PM
So... brain tumor, or strokes?
 
2013-02-18 04:33:06 PM

dv-ous: So... brain tumor, or strokes?


A Pope in the eye with a sharp stick?
 
2013-02-18 04:34:22 PM
You'd think God would have taken care of that for him.. you know.. for the effort.
 
2013-02-18 04:34:24 PM

Inflatable Rhetoric: If you give the church a cent, you're saying child rape is OK with you.
Put them out of business, and in prison.


agreed
 
2013-02-18 04:38:39 PM

epoch_destroi: "Benedict, 85, has had an assortment of health challenges during his time as head of the Catholic Church which resulted for one thing in a secret procedure to install a pacemaker and later a new battery."

Does anybody else find this an incredibly confusingly written sentence?


Journalism is dead, as near as I can tell.

I wondering why God didn't power his pacemaker. Or his heart, for that matter. Surely if you need a pacemaker, that's God's way of telling you that you're supposed to die? I hate religion. It's all just such a crock of shiat.
 
2013-02-18 04:39:21 PM

vudukungfu: Inflatable Rhetoric: If you give the church a cent, you're saying child rape is OK with you.
Put them out of business, and in prison.

agreed


Too bad we can't burn a few of them at the stake, something they were good at for disagreeing with them.
 
2013-02-18 04:39:21 PM
Hmm, sounds like he had Baby Bonnet's Syndrome
 
2013-02-18 04:40:47 PM
So, Popeye the Pope went to Mount Olive....r
 
2013-02-18 04:42:25 PM

vudukungfu: Inflatable Rhetoric: If you give the church a cent, you're saying child rape is OK with you.
Put them out of business, and in prison.

agreed


With that logic; you shouldn't buy anything from Germany, Japan, Russia or China. Because of past atrocities.

With that logic; you shouldn't support the Democratic Party. Because of slavery.

/ That would be absolutely silly.
 
2013-02-18 04:42:48 PM
Literally!
 
2013-02-18 04:45:56 PM
Well, his mother did warn him.
 
2013-02-18 04:49:46 PM
Andrew Sullivan had an interesting comment from Joseph Bottum about Benedict. He was very against him resigning, because we need to see that being old doesn't mean you have to be shuffled offstage to die out of sight.  Hadn't thought of it that way, but it's an interesting way to see it.

Personally, in Ratzinger's case, I think we should shuffle him off to a prison where he can die out of sight (in both the figurative and apparently literal senses)  Sadly, since there's no God and no justice he'll live out his life in comfort
 
2013-02-18 04:52:32 PM

ha-ha-guy: At one point was supposedly 24/7, but I guess that presented some problems, so now it is only when making rulings or publishing works.


It was never 24/7.  It wasn't even defined as church dogma until the late 1800's.
 
2013-02-18 04:54:43 PM

iheartscotch: vudukungfu: Inflatable Rhetoric: If you give the church a cent, you're saying child rape is OK with you.
Put them out of business, and in prison.

agreed

With that logic; you shouldn't buy anything from Germany, Japan, Russia or China. Because of past atrocities.

With that logic; you shouldn't support the Democratic Party. Because of slavery.

/ That would be absolutely silly.


No, it wouldn't, and your analogy is weak.
 
2013-02-18 04:56:03 PM
Man, god sure has a poor health plan for his #1 PR guy.
 
2013-02-18 04:56:49 PM

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: Eh, his body is checking out. He might as well too. That must've been the thinking behind his decision to quit.


No no, it's a conspiracy. Or maybe some kind of scandal. You get out of here with your mundane, sensible explanations.
 
2013-02-18 05:00:57 PM
Retiring because he heard there was going to be a new Star Wars Movie
 
2013-02-18 05:01:13 PM

OldManDownDRoad: [www.depa.net.au image 387x600]


Isn't that where the phrase 'turn a blind eye' originated?



"I really can not see the signal"

Adm. Horatio Nelson
 
2013-02-18 05:01:37 PM
I sorta hope there's a God, and he looks something like this:

www.alicia-logic.com

And he waits at the Heavenly Gates with a few surprises for the newly-arrived.

Muslim suicide bomber: "Where's my 72 virgins?"

Supreme Being: "You were sadly misinformed. However, given your interest in sex, we do have a nice position open in a barrel on board the Flying Dutchman. And we do have some pork fat to help you get accustomed to things."

Former Pope: "Hey, what happened to all my jewels and robes?"

Supreme Being: "Silly man. Did you not see that bit in The Book about taking care of the poor? However, I do have a spot open in the Pearly Gates McDonalds, where you can try to make your rent in the Hereafter. Blow it just once, and off to the fiery pit you go."
 
2013-02-18 05:01:48 PM
We all knew that the church would try to play off the child abuse scandal by claiming health problems.

Standard tactic....
 
2013-02-18 05:04:15 PM
i1171.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-18 05:06:00 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: dv-ous: So... brain tumor, or strokes?

A Pope in the eye with a sharp stick?


Neither..

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2013-02-18 05:16:48 PM

Inflatable Rhetoric: iheartscotch: vudukungfu: Inflatable Rhetoric: If you give the church a cent, you're saying child rape is OK with you.
Put them out of business, and in prison.

agreed

With that logic; you shouldn't buy anything from Germany, Japan, Russia or China. Because of past atrocities.

With that logic; you shouldn't support the Democratic Party. Because of slavery.

/ That would be absolutely silly.

No, it wouldn't, and your analogy is weak.


How so?

For many years the Germans refused to acknolage the second world war. Many, to this day, skate over the actions of the Japanise towards the Chinese. The Russians have never made public the numbers that Stalin's purges cost them. And china refuses to acknolage that they are a human rights violator. The Democratic Party is the party that succeeded.

As organizations/countries; are they somehow less responsible for their actions than the catholic church?

Yes, I'm talking about some things that are long past; but, my point still stands. Saying that supporting the Catholic Church is supporting pedophilia is just as ridiculous as saying that supporting the Democratic Party is supporting slavery.

/ if a limb is gangrenous; do you cut off the whole body?
 
2013-02-18 05:18:21 PM
It's time for the truth to be known! When he was young, he was injected with an experimental Nazi retrovirus. Over the years, the medication he's been taking to suppress it has been slowly losing its effect. Already his body is transforming. You can see in his latest pictures that a little bit of a Charlie Chaplin mustache is beginning to sprout.
 
2013-02-18 05:22:01 PM
"There has been much made - perhaps too much - of the fact that his Vatican residence will make him immune from any child abuse-related legal prosecutions, if any. "

Bullshiat.  There's no such thing as "making too much" about an organization protecting child molesters and their enablers.

If anything, it hasn't been focused on enough.
 
2013-02-18 05:22:06 PM

Acharne: ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass

I love that when he steps down, he 'loses infallibility'. A term I found hilarious ever since John Paul II fell down the stairs and injured himself. "But he's infallible!!"

Hahahaha..... ok... well I think its HILARIOUS.


please don't judge me


Papal infallibility has only been invoked a couple of times: That Mary was born without original sin and that she was assumed into heaven. Neither of these appear in the Bible, but Catholic tradition over the millennia gave them the force of doctrine which Popes later articulated. Nobody thinks the Pope is right all the time, but when one makes a specific ex cathedra statement (basically the Pope has to say, "this is an infallible position"), Catholics must accept it.
 
2013-02-18 05:26:14 PM

iheartscotch: acknolage


That spelling is an atrocity against the human race.
 
2013-02-18 05:28:05 PM

iheartscotch: Inflatable Rhetoric: iheartscotch: vudukungfu: Inflatable Rhetoric: If you give the church a cent, you're saying child rape is OK with you.
Put them out of business, and in prison.

agreed

With that logic; you shouldn't buy anything from Germany, Japan, Russia or China. Because of past atrocities.

With that logic; you shouldn't support the Democratic Party. Because of slavery.

/ That would be absolutely silly.

No, it wouldn't, and your analogy is weak.

How so?

For many years the Germans refused to acknolage the second world war. Many, to this day, skate over the actions of the Japanise towards the Chinese. The Russians have never made public the numbers that Stalin's purges cost them. And china refuses to acknolage that they are a human rights violator. The Democratic Party is the party that succeeded.

As organizations/countries; are they somehow less responsible for their actions than the catholic church?

Yes, I'm talking about some things that are long past; but, my point still stands. Saying that supporting the Catholic Church is supporting pedophilia is just as ridiculous as saying that supporting the Democratic Party is supporting slavery.

/ if a limb is gangrenous; do you cut off the whole body?


The church claims some special relationship with god, that makes it different.  The standards are higher, as they should be.  The whole body might not be corrupt, but the head is, so cut that off.

All the church claims to provide as its "product" is ludicrous.  They can't prove any connection with any god, or any reason to believe that they've gotten anyone into heaven.  They are useless and should be disbanded.  Taxing them would be a start.
 
2013-02-18 05:30:27 PM

StoPPeRmobile: [i1171.photobucket.com image 850x636]


Invisible altar boy?

/aisle seat, please
 
2013-02-18 05:33:37 PM

iheartscotch: i don't know past/present


lrn2dictionary
 
2013-02-18 05:35:39 PM
www.keslingbriarpipes.com
R.I.P. Pope Eye
 
2013-02-18 05:37:52 PM
Its fun to have threads where you make fun of stereotypical white people because you are allowed to say whatever you want.
 
2013-02-18 05:38:29 PM
Ishmael approves:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7heIx8FV5U">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=E7heIx8FV5U
 
2013-02-18 05:44:24 PM

Inflatable Rhetoric: iheartscotch: Inflatable Rhetoric: iheartscotch: vudukungfu: Inflatable Rhetoric: If you give the church a cent, you're saying child rape is OK with you.
Put them out of business, and in prison.

agreed

With that logic; you shouldn't buy anything from Germany, Japan, Russia or China. Because of past atrocities.

With that logic; you shouldn't support the Democratic Party. Because of slavery.

/ That would be absolutely silly.

No, it wouldn't, and your analogy is weak.

How so?

For many years the Germans refused to acknolage the second world war. Many, to this day, skate over the actions of the Japanise towards the Chinese. The Russians have never made public the numbers that Stalin's purges cost them. And china refuses to acknolage that they are a human rights violator. The Democratic Party is the party that succeeded.

As organizations/countries; are they somehow less responsible for their actions than the catholic church?

Yes, I'm talking about some things that are long past; but, my point still stands. Saying that supporting the Catholic Church is supporting pedophilia is just as ridiculous as saying that supporting the Democratic Party is supporting slavery.

/ if a limb is gangrenous; do you cut off the whole body?

The church claims some special relationship with god, that makes it different.  The standards are higher, as they should be.  The whole body might not be corrupt, but the head is, so cut that off.

All the church claims to provide as its "product" is ludicrous.  They can't prove any connection with any god, or any reason to believe that they've gotten anyone into heaven.  They are useless and should be disbanded.  Taxing them would be a start.


I agree; the church should hold itself to a higher standard. I agree that the actions of some of the leaders of the church are despicable. I agree that they, probably, should be taxed.

However..

Should the many be sentenced for the crimes of the few? Can you prove that they don't have the ear of some great invisible sky wizard? I would say that the church does provide a service. They feed the starving, they cloth the naked and they give the elderly a hope for eternity. Should an organization that has survived for 2000 years, done innumerable acts of kindness, and inspired the greatest artists ever; be disbanded for the acts of a few?

/ I'm not saying some in the church don't deserve punishment; far from it.
 
2013-02-18 05:44:28 PM
I don't suppose it matters that he was canonized (sp?) in 2005 ish. But the cases started to appear in 1983 and on. The real media explosion around 2001-2003. Not a Rat-boy fan, or even Catholic, but I don't get people's hate for him.
 
2013-02-18 05:44:30 PM
It's not blind eye, it's armpit


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2013-02-18 05:48:31 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: iheartscotch: i don't know past/present

lrn2dictionary


When criticizing someone for grammar; it might be best to spell your criticism without using numbers in the place of words.

/ just sayin
 
2013-02-18 05:48:44 PM
Someone say Poope?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhpvWuWUgpg">http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=jhpvWuWUgpg

Sorry kids, I've been out for a while. Lost the vision in my right eye. Seriously.  ; [
 
2013-02-18 05:52:03 PM
"Turns out that Pope Benedict literally turned a blind eye to the Catholic sex abuse scandals"

Yeah, but he knew the skinny on what was happening.

/Extra Irony points for this story coming out via site named inquisitr.com

www.midwesttvguy.com
 
2013-02-18 05:52:38 PM

epoch_destroi: "Benedict, 85, has had an assortment of health challenges during his time as head of the Catholic Church which resulted for one thing in a secret procedure to install a pacemaker and later a new battery."

Does anybody else find this an incredibly confusingly written sentence?


No, but I'm wondering how a battery implanted in his chest managed to pop out and hit his head in Mexico

Benedict, 85, has had an assortment of health challenges during his time as head of the Catholic Church which resulted for one thing in a secret procedure to install a pacemaker and later a new battery. It's been reported that hit his head during a visit to Mexico.
 
2013-02-18 05:53:37 PM

iheartscotch: Yes, I'm talking about some things that are long past; but, my point still stands. Saying that supporting the Catholic Church is supporting pedophilia is just as ridiculous as saying that supporting the Democratic Party is supporting slavery.


The difference between the church and your examples is that 1) the church is still actively covering up and protecting pedophiles, 2) there doesn't seem to be much separation of the different parts of the church, meaning it's difficult to just support the non-rapey parts without supporting the whole, and 3) the issues seem to be coming from the leadership down, meaning you can't just jettison the bad guys and still leave the rest of the organization. I mean, we're talking about the friggin' pope here. When it comes to leaders, he's the literal second in command. There's only one step higher you can go, and that guy is notoriously difficult to subpoena.

/To borrow your analogy, how do you only cut off the gangrenous limb if you can't tell the difference between the limb and the body? Or, why stop at one limb if the disease has spread everywhere else? Or, how do you cut off the diseased limb without killing the body when the head is the gangrenous part?
 
2013-02-18 05:54:50 PM

Ed Finnerty: You misspelled "brown", Subby.


Done in one, you win the thread.
 
2013-02-18 05:55:27 PM
Hmm, the head of a theocratic corporation turning a blind eye to child buggering to avoid scandal that would confuse the sheeple that bow down to his holiness and cost his business money? Say it ain't so!!

/and yes, i rtfa.
 
2013-02-18 05:55:45 PM

BrotherMalcolm: I don't suppose it matters that he was canonized (sp?) in 2005 ish. But the cases started to appear in 1983 and on. The real media explosion around 2001-2003. Not a Rat-boy fan, or even Catholic, but I don't get people's hate for him.


Because he's been involved in protecting molesters since long before he was made Pope.

"The Wisconsin case involved an American priest, the Rev. Lawrence C. Murphy, who worked at a renowned school for deaf children from 1950 to 1974. But it is only one of thousands of cases forwarded over decades by bishops to the Vatican office called the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, led from 1981 to 2005 by Cardinal Ratzinger. It is still the office that decides whether accused priests should be given full canonical trials and defrocked.  "

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/world/europe/25vatican.html?pagewa nt ed=all
 
2013-02-18 05:58:11 PM

iheartscotch: be disbanded for the acts of a few


I brought this up in my other reply to you, but I'll reiterate it: while I don't think the majority deserve the backlash from the few, in this case the few are so high up and committed such heinous crimes that some collateral damage is going to be inevitable. The few cannot be left unpunished, and that unfortunately means the many are going to catch some of the backlash. You can't blame the people doling out the punishment for that, the blame lies solely with the leaders that allowed their crimes to affect their followers.
 
2013-02-18 05:58:56 PM
Poop thread!
 
2013-02-18 06:00:00 PM
You know who else was deaf and blind...

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-18 06:00:18 PM
images.firstcovers.com

Cant believe I'm first
 
2013-02-18 06:00:48 PM

piltdown: Because he's been involved in protecting molesters since long before he was made Pope.


Wasn't he also a Hitler Youth, although of undetermined enthusiasm? While that might not be a damning blot, it's certainly not a character reference.
 
2013-02-18 06:01:20 PM

JFC: Incarcerate the half-blind child-rapist protecting farker.


him and his entire band of molesting and molester protector ilk worldwide.
 
2013-02-18 06:05:14 PM
If you give me $1,000,000,000, I too can feed a lot of people for, say, $500,000,000.  Deal?
 
2013-02-18 06:12:35 PM

epoch_destroi: "Benedict, 85, has had an assortment of health challenges during his time as head of the Catholic Church which resulted for one thing in a secret procedure to install a pacemaker and later a new battery."

Does anybody else find this an incredibly confusingly written sentence?


It was translated into Chinese from the original Italian after being converted into Latin, and then back again via Babelfish. Other than that, it's perfectly clear.
 
2013-02-18 06:25:19 PM
When did Agent Coulson become part of the Popes security detail?
 
2013-02-18 06:25:45 PM
dl.dropbox.com
 
2013-02-18 06:27:03 PM

iheartscotch: When criticizing someone for grammar; it might be best to spell your criticism without using numbers in the place of words.

/ just sayin


It wasn't a grammar critique, and it wasn't really spelling - I was performing an avant-garde mockery of your logical deficiencies disguised as a spelling check disguised as a spelling fail disguised as twitterspeak. I understand if it was too much for you.
 
2013-02-18 06:28:42 PM

Jument: I wondering why God didn't power his pacemaker. Or his heart, for that matter. Surely if you need a pacemaker, that's God's way of telling you that you're supposed to die? I hate religion. It's all just such a crock of shiat.


The funny thing is the technology for a pacemaker is okay. But the technology for birth control is not.

How is the line drawn I wonder?

My impression is the rule of thumb is that if rich, lazy old white guys benefit from it, there is nothing against it in the Bible. If women, poor people, young people, or non-white people benefit from it, there will be a way of reading some line somewhere in the Bible that will be against it, if you sort of squint and reinvent the meaning of all the words involved in the phrase while taking it complete out of context
 
2013-02-18 06:41:00 PM
www.mentalhealthy.co.uk

America utterly DESTROYED her career, because she DARED say out loud that the Catholic Church was covering up systematic child sex abuse... in 1992.
 
2013-02-18 06:42:02 PM

xria: Jument: I wondering why God didn't power his pacemaker. Or his heart, for that matter. Surely if you need a pacemaker, that's God's way of telling you that you're supposed to die? I hate religion. It's all just such a crock of shiat.

The funny thing is the technology for a pacemaker is okay. But the technology for birth control is not.

How is the line drawn I wonder?

My impression is the rule of thumb is that if rich, lazy old white guys benefit from it, there is nothing against it in the Bible. If women, poor people, young people, or non-white people benefit from it, there will be a way of reading some line somewhere in the Bible that will be against it, if you sort of squint and reinvent the meaning of all the words involved in the phrase while taking it complete out of context


It's expounding on the sins of Onan, who refused to give his dead brother's wife a child.

Also, some forms of birth control prevent implantation, not conception.
 
2013-02-18 06:42:20 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: iheartscotch: Yes, I'm talking about some things that are long past; but, my point still stands. Saying that supporting the Catholic Church is supporting pedophilia is just as ridiculous as saying that supporting the Democratic Party is supporting slavery.

The difference between the church and your examples is that 1) the church is still actively covering up and protecting pedophiles, 2) there doesn't seem to be much separation of the different parts of the church, meaning it's difficult to just support the non-rapey parts without supporting the whole, and 3) the issues seem to be coming from the leadership down, meaning you can't just jettison the bad guys and still leave the rest of the organization. I mean, we're talking about the friggin' pope here. When it comes to leaders, he's the literal second in command. There's only one step higher you can go, and that guy is notoriously difficult to subpoena.

/To borrow your analogy, how do you only cut off the gangrenous limb if you can't tell the difference between the limb and the body? Or, why stop at one limb if the disease has spread everywhere else? Or, how do you cut off the diseased limb without killing the body when the head is the gangrenous part?


Frankly? It was mostly the work of some of the American bishops. They had the responsibility to inform the police the moment accusations became known. They shuffled the pedo priests from diocese to diocese.

I agree; the upper echelon that actually made the decision not to go to the police are also responsible. But, how much did Benedict know and when did he know it? Did the order come down from JPII or one of his handlers to bury it? Who knew what when? It would damage the church, surely; but, as long as one bishop remained; it wouldn't destroy the organization.
 
2013-02-18 06:43:16 PM
gonna live with immunity on Vatican grounds.
 
2013-02-18 06:43:53 PM

epoch_destroi: "Benedict, 85, has had an assortment of health challenges during his time as head of the Catholic Church which resulted for one thing in a secret procedure to install a pacemaker and later a new battery."

WTF!Seriously? I thought only middle school students and GED grads were guilty of this.

Does anybody else find this an incredibly confusingly written sentence?

Benedict, the 85 year old leader of the Catholic church, has been plagued with various health issues which have included the unreported installation of a pacemaker and later, a replacement battery.

Got nothing
 
2013-02-18 06:45:53 PM
Where is the obvious tag when we need it?
 
2013-02-18 06:49:48 PM

Ima10urin8: gonna live with immunity on Vatican grounds.


Immunity being an Italian altar boy
 
2013-02-18 06:51:58 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: dv-ous: So... brain tumor, or strokes?

A Pope in the eye with a sharp stick?


Heh.
 
2013-02-18 06:57:49 PM

iheartscotch: Inflatable Rhetoric: iheartscotch: vudukungfu: Inflatable Rhetoric: If you give the church a cent, you're saying child rape is OK with you.
Put them out of business, and in prison.

agreed

With that logic; you shouldn't buy anything from Germany, Japan, Russia or China. Because of past atrocities.

With that logic; you shouldn't support the Democratic Party. Because of slavery.

/ That would be absolutely silly.

No, it wouldn't, and your analogy is weak.

How so?

For many years the Germans refused to acknolage the second world war. Many, to this day, skate over the actions of the Japanise towards the Chinese. The Russians have never made public the numbers that Stalin's purges cost them. And china refuses to acknolage that they are a human rights violator. The Democratic Party is the party that succeeded.

As organizations/countries; are they somehow less responsible for their actions than the catholic church?

Yes, I'm talking about some things that are long past; but, my point still stands. Saying that supporting the Catholic Church is supporting pedophilia is just as ridiculous as saying that supporting the Democratic Party is supporting slavery.

/ if a limb is gangrenous; do you cut off the whole body?


From the gangrenous limb's point of view? Yes.
 
2013-02-18 07:01:00 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: iheartscotch: When criticizing someone for grammar; it might be best to spell your criticism without using numbers in the place of words.

/ just sayin

It wasn't a grammar critique, and it wasn't really spelling - I was performing an avant-garde mockery of your logical deficiencies disguised as a spelling check disguised as a spelling fail disguised as twitterspeak. I understand if it was too much for you.


Ah; avant-garde eh?

I heard a funny joke the other day: why did the hipster burn his mouth on a slice of pizza?

Because, he ate it before it was cool.

Tell me; ever burn your mouth on a slice of pizza?
 
2013-02-18 07:06:07 PM

iheartscotch: Noticeably F.A.T.: iheartscotch: Yes, I'm talking about some things that are long past; but, my point still stands. Saying that supporting the Catholic Church is supporting pedophilia is just as ridiculous as saying that supporting the Democratic Party is supporting slavery.

The difference between the church and your examples is that 1) the church is still actively covering up and protecting pedophiles, 2) there doesn't seem to be much separation of the different parts of the church, meaning it's difficult to just support the non-rapey parts without supporting the whole, and 3) the issues seem to be coming from the leadership down, meaning you can't just jettison the bad guys and still leave the rest of the organization. I mean, we're talking about the friggin' pope here. When it comes to leaders, he's the literal second in command. There's only one step higher you can go, and that guy is notoriously difficult to subpoena.

/To borrow your analogy, how do you only cut off the gangrenous limb if you can't tell the difference between the limb and the body? Or, why stop at one limb if the disease has spread everywhere else? Or, how do you cut off the diseased limb without killing the body when the head is the gangrenous part?

Frankly? It was mostly the work of some of the American bishops. They had the responsibility to inform the police the moment accusations became known. They shuffled the pedo priests from diocese to diocese.

I agree; the upper echelon that actually made the decision not to go to the police are also responsible. But, how much did Benedict know and when did he know it? Did the order come down from JPII or one of his handlers to bury it? Who knew what when? It would damage the church, surely; but, as long as one bishop remained; it wouldn't destroy the organization.


The body responsible for tagging, reporting, disciplining, and moving about pedo priests since the 90s was chaired by Pedopope Bennie. JP2 signed a decree that ALL pedo claims went directly to Bennie, and ONLY to Bennie.

When he conveniently 'passes' or 'retires' or whatever happens, he will conveniently disappear the lions share of the evidence, information, and / or data at all linking the Catholic church as an institution from the baby buggering of the last 30 years, and all who ever had a claim filed (or even just reported and not formally filed).

He's the one man that knows ALL of it, and has been the one man, for decades. When he dies, so does the proof.
 
2013-02-18 07:09:53 PM
If I were a god, I would heal and help the religious leaders who lead my worshipers, not leave them out to rot and suffer horribly.
 
2013-02-18 07:12:30 PM

Stoker: I guess his faith was not strong enough.


I find that ...disturbing.
 
2013-02-18 07:19:02 PM

BullBearMS: [dl.dropbox.com image 279x279]


Regardless of Ratzinger's proclivities or culpability, that GIF is awesome.
 
2013-02-18 07:19:44 PM

NutWrench: I have as much authority as the Pope.
I just don't have as many people who believe it.


Care to share any other jokes you've stolen and tried to pass off as your own?
 
2013-02-18 07:21:50 PM

weltallica: [www.mentalhealthy.co.uk image 435x320]

America utterly DESTROYED her career, because she DARED say out loud that the Catholic Church was covering up systematic child sex abuse... in 1992.


The first widely acknowledged and documented cover-up of child rape was in 400 AD.
 
2013-02-18 07:22:53 PM

ha-ha-guy: Acharne: ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass

I love that when he steps down, he 'loses infallibility'. A term I found hilarious ever since John Paul II fell down the stairs and injured himself. "But he's infallible!!"

Hahahaha..... ok... well I think its HILARIOUS.


please don't judge me

Sadly these days the Pope is only infallible when speaking on religious issues and exercising his office.  At one point was supposedly 24/7, but I guess that presented some problems, so now it is only when making rulings or publishing works.


I've heard about this.

What a cop out.
 
2013-02-18 07:24:28 PM
Pobrecito!  I feel so sorry for that child molester abettor.  Not.
 
2013-02-18 07:28:43 PM

SpikeStrip: "you must be this swarthy to be pope or his constituents"

[i780.photobucket.com image 665x385]


Dude in the front of the car is missing from the set of Lost.

And looking at the back of the car, the crew of Serenity is missing their pilot.
 
2013-02-18 07:32:32 PM
Just by reading this message, you are an officially ordained Discordian Pope.

You're welcome.

   - MrEricFNORDSir
 
2013-02-18 07:32:53 PM

xaks: iheartscotch: Noticeably F.A.T.: iheartscotch: Yes, I'm talking about some things that are long past; but, my point still stands. Saying that supporting the Catholic Church is supporting pedophilia is just as ridiculous as saying that supporting the Democratic Party is supporting slavery.

The difference between the church and your examples is that 1) the church is still actively covering up and protecting pedophiles, 2) there doesn't seem to be much separation of the different parts of the church, meaning it's difficult to just support the non-rapey parts without supporting the whole, and 3) the issues seem to be coming from the leadership down, meaning you can't just jettison the bad guys and still leave the rest of the organization. I mean, we're talking about the friggin' pope here. When it comes to leaders, he's the literal second in command. There's only one step higher you can go, and that guy is notoriously difficult to subpoena.

/To borrow your analogy, how do you only cut off the gangrenous limb if you can't tell the difference between the limb and the body? Or, why stop at one limb if the disease has spread everywhere else? Or, how do you cut off the diseased limb without killing the body when the head is the gangrenous part?

Frankly? It was mostly the work of some of the American bishops. They had the responsibility to inform the police the moment accusations became known. They shuffled the pedo priests from diocese to diocese.

I agree; the upper echelon that actually made the decision not to go to the police are also responsible. But, how much did Benedict know and when did he know it? Did the order come down from JPII or one of his handlers to bury it? Who knew what when? It would damage the church, surely; but, as long as one bishop remained; it wouldn't destroy the organization.

The body responsible for tagging, reporting, disciplining, and moving about pedo priests since the 90s was chaired by Pedopope Bennie. JP2 signed a decree that ALL pedo claims went directly to Bennie, and ONLY to Bennie.

When he conveniently 'passes' or 'retires' or whatever happens, he will conveniently disappear the lions share of the evidence, information, and / or data at all linking the Catholic church as an institution from the baby buggering of the last 30 years, and all who ever had a claim filed (or even just reported and not formally filed).

He's the one man that knows ALL of it, and has been the one man, for decades. When he dies, so does the proof.


Indeed? Or is Benedict really a fall guy? Those records won't just disappear. The Vatican has records dating back over a thousand years; some in its original context. I imagine they are gathering dust on a hard drive/ in a filing cabinet somewhere.

The difficulty is; the Vatican is its own country; completely independent of any other power. Thus, most of its major players would have diplomatic immunity. The Vatican could give them up; but, probably won't. The countries of the world could declare them persona non-grata until they give up the info and the conspirators; but, that probably won't happen either.

/ which makes an elderly, possibly dying former pope the perfect fall guy; thus ridding the church of blame.
 
2013-02-18 07:34:11 PM
Headline of the year, wtg subbie
 
2013-02-18 07:37:25 PM
I hope he's the one who finally excommunicates Hitler. It will add so much to future Fark threads.
 
2013-02-18 07:38:08 PM

AndreMA: piltdown: Because he's been involved in protecting molesters since long before he was made Pope.

Wasn't he also a Hitler Youth, although of undetermined enthusiasm? While that might not be a damning blot, it's certainly not a character reference.


At that time and in that country, membership was compulsory for his age.

*shrug*
 
2013-02-18 07:38:36 PM

Noticeably F.A.T.: iheartscotch: be disbanded for the acts of a few

I brought this up in my other reply to you, but I'll reiterate it: while I don't think the majority deserve the backlash from the few, in this case the few are so high up and committed such heinous crimes that some collateral damage is going to be inevitable. The few cannot be left unpunished, and that unfortunately means the many are going to catch some of the backlash. You can't blame the people doling out the punishment for that, the blame lies solely with the leaders that allowed their crimes to affect their followers.


If the entire RC church, and all the others, went out of business, what would we lose?
We would still have Santa and the Tooth Fairy, both of whom are a lot nicer than god.
 
2013-02-18 07:50:25 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass

I always hoped for a lightning bolt, myself


Close enough?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/12/lightning-strikes-st-peters -b asilica-rome-photo_n_2668850.html
 
2013-02-18 07:52:28 PM
 
2013-02-18 07:56:29 PM
It amuses me that so many people are arguing over whether or not the Catholic church should be supported because they actively covered up paedophilia in the preisthood and not whether or not the Church should be supported because they believe in a magical undead Jew on a stick who is his own father and will sometimes grant you wishes and take you to a mystical paradise dimension when you die if you telepathically tell him he's really awesome.

Would it be reasonable to expect a rational person to report child abuse to the authorities? Of course it would, but why would you expect reason from a person so irrational that they believe the fantasies of what were essentially the comic book superheroes of ancient peoples?

I mean sure, don't give the Church your money because they hushed up the kid diddling and all, but more importantly don't give the Church your money because when it comes right down to it they're delusional.
 
2013-02-18 08:03:44 PM

over_and_done: SpikeStrip: "you must be this swarthy to be pope or his constituents"

i780.photobucket.com

Dude in the front of the car is missing from the set of Lost.

And looking at the back of the car, the crew of Serenity is missing their pilot.


The back two look right at home at the Vatican:
3.bp.blogspot.comwww.aceshowbiz.com
 
2013-02-18 08:08:55 PM

weltallica: [www.mentalhealthy.co.uk image 435x320]

America utterly DESTROYED her career, because she DARED say out loud that the Catholic Church was covering up systematic child sex abuse... in 1992.


I'm somewhat skeptical of this, given that Catholics in the US were still de facto barred from public office in many parts of the states as late as the 1980s, it was frequently as bad as being an atheist.

Basically, insulting the Pope is more likely to  boost your career in the USA than  destroy it.
 
2013-02-18 08:11:51 PM

iheartscotch: / which makes an elderly, possibly dying former pope the perfect fall guy; thus ridding the church of blame.


Sheep go to heaven, goats go to hell
 
2013-02-18 08:22:43 PM

Oznog: The Stealth Hippopotamus: so you really can flog a one eyed pope?!

Can't he just touch himself and miraculously heal it?


Miracle is a 9th level spell. I don't think we've seen a level 20 cleric in a long time.
 
2013-02-18 08:24:09 PM
My dream vacation: Vatican City, with a pass-key, a monk's disguise, and a map. During the conclave would be so awesome!
 
2013-02-18 08:37:01 PM

Acharne: ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass

I love that when he steps down, he 'loses infallibility'. A term I found hilarious ever since John Paul II fell down the stairs and injured himself. "But he's infallible!!"

Hahahaha..... ok... well I think its HILARIOUS.


please don't judge me


I don't think that's what infallible is supposed to mean...

/It's supposed to mean his word is the Word of God, because apparently we've never heard of anything influencing the human mind before.
 
2013-02-18 08:41:45 PM

PsiChick: Acharne: ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass

I love that when he steps down, he 'loses infallibility'. A term I found hilarious ever since John Paul II fell down the stairs and injured himself. "But he's infallible!!"

Hahahaha..... ok... well I think its HILARIOUS.


please don't judge me

I don't think that's what infallible is supposed to mean...

/It's supposed to mean his word is the Word of God, because apparently we've never heard of anything influencing the human mind before.


I find it humourous everyone who replied to me defined and clarified 'infallibility' for me. Part of the reason I find it funny is because I know what infallible means, if I didn't, I would be able to find the idea of the pope falling down stairs so funny. I know what it means, it's funny as a result :)

This joint is infallible.
 
2013-02-18 08:41:49 PM

weltallica: [www.mentalhealthy.co.uk image 435x320]

America utterly DESTROYED her career, because she DARED say out loud that the Catholic Church was covering up systematic child sex abuse... in 1992.


I think you mean that people of their own freewill stopped buying her music because she decided it would be cool to make a political statement on live TV and tore up a picture of the Pope.

NEWSFLASH: No one was is is obligated in anyway to buy anyone's music, ever.
 
2013-02-18 08:53:16 PM
So long as he's healthy enough to be buried alive.
 
2013-02-18 09:10:19 PM
Pope Benedict anagram : epic bent pedo
 
2013-02-18 09:20:32 PM

Acharne: PsiChick: Acharne: ha-ha-guy: God is not being kind to his chosen mouthpiece.

/I've always wanted a Pope to go out with a heart attack during a major speech or mass

I love that when he steps down, he 'loses infallibility'. A term I found hilarious ever since John Paul II fell down the stairs and injured himself. "But he's infallible!!"

Hahahaha..... ok... well I think its HILARIOUS.


please don't judge me

I don't think that's what infallible is supposed to mean...

/It's supposed to mean his word is the Word of God, because apparently we've never heard of anything influencing the human mind before.

I find it humourous everyone who replied to me defined and clarified 'infallibility' for me. Part of the reason I find it funny is because I know what infallible means, if I didn't, I would be able to find the idea of the pope falling down stairs so funny. I know what it means, it's funny as a result :)

This joint is infallible.


Ah. No, I mean that I fully believe laypeople are saying that, and they're idiots. Wasn't commenting so much on your knowledge.

...pass that shiat on over.
 
2013-02-18 09:20:53 PM

Acharne: A term I found hilarious ever since John Paul II fell down the stairs and injured himself. "But he's infallible!!"


That's pretty damned funny, I agree.
 
2013-02-18 09:24:32 PM

BrotherMalcolm: I don't suppose it matters that he was canonized (sp?) in 2005 ish. But the cases started to appear in 1983 and on. The real media explosion around 2001-2003. Not a Rat-boy fan, or even Catholic, but I don't get people's hate for him.


Not canonized.  Saints are canonized.  Deacons, Priests and Bishops are ordained.  Cardinals are appointed or installed.  Popes are elected.
 
2013-02-18 09:29:24 PM
If you keep doing that, you'll go blind.

Told you so.
 
2013-02-18 09:59:15 PM

PsiChick: ...pass that shiat on over.


*Cough*..... *HACK*......"ok....here....."
 
gja [TotalFark]
2013-02-18 10:06:29 PM
The church is in and of itself, the problem with the church. And the pope is the front-man for the entire gig.
Their refusal to acknowledge a massively changed world in need of some direction with some real attempt at building bridges and helping each other is what drove me literally out of the pew and into the car.

PsiChick: /It's supposed to mean his word is the Word of God, because apparently we've never heard of anything influencing the human mind before.

^^^THIS^^^
Because there are more versions of the bible then Sybil had personalities. And of course none of them reflect any influence from the people putting the pages together (riiiiight).
 
2013-02-18 10:13:14 PM

gja: The church is in and of itself, the problem with the church. And the pope is the front-man for the entire gig.
Their refusal to acknowledge a massively changed world in need of some direction with some real attempt at building bridges and helping each other is what drove me literally out of the pew and into the car.

PsiChick: /It's supposed to mean his word is the Word of God, because apparently we've never heard of anything influencing the human mind before.
^^^THIS^^^
Because there are more versions of the bible then Sybil had personalities. And of course none of them reflect any influence from the people putting the pages together (riiiiight).


Purty sure that's what happened with Paul. I'm religious, so yeah, I'll buy people talking to the Divine, even the Divine going by Yaweh--but HOLY FARK, some of the shiat in that religion, not to mention Paul's rampant asshattery. That, that is what it looks like when something gets lost in translation, even if you're religious.
 
2013-02-18 10:15:32 PM
He was kind'a shy, on account of his bad eye, but a real nice guy was he.
 
2013-02-18 10:59:37 PM
I heard he quit because he was seeing people on the side.
 
2013-02-18 11:08:45 PM

MrEricSir: Just by reading this message, you are an officially ordained Discordian Pope.

You're welcome.

   - MrEricFNORDSir


Get your official Papal ID here
 
2013-02-18 11:31:48 PM

iheartscotch: xaks: iheartscotch: Noticeably F.A.T.: iheartscotch: Yes, I'm talking about some things that are long past; but, my point still stands. Saying that supporting the Catholic Church is supporting pedophilia is just as ridiculous as saying that supporting the Democratic Party is supporting slavery.

The difference between the church and your examples is that 1) the church is still actively covering up and protecting pedophiles, 2) there doesn't seem to be much separation of the different parts of the church, meaning it's difficult to just support the non-rapey parts without supporting the whole, and 3) the issues seem to be coming from the leadership down, meaning you can't just jettison the bad guys and still leave the rest of the organization. I mean, we're talking about the friggin' pope here. When it comes to leaders, he's the literal second in command. There's only one step higher you can go, and that guy is notoriously difficult to subpoena.

/To borrow your analogy, how do you only cut off the gangrenous limb if you can't tell the difference between the limb and the body? Or, why stop at one limb if the disease has spread everywhere else? Or, how do you cut off the diseased limb without killing the body when the head is the gangrenous part?

Frankly? It was mostly the work of some of the American bishops. They had the responsibility to inform the police the moment accusations became known. They shuffled the pedo priests from diocese to diocese.

I agree; the upper echelon that actually made the decision not to go to the police are also responsible. But, how much did Benedict know and when did he know it? Did the order come down from JPII or one of his handlers to bury it? Who knew what when? It would damage the church, surely; but, as long as one bishop remained; it wouldn't destroy the organization.

The body responsible for tagging, reporting, disciplining, and moving about pedo priests since the 90s was chaired by Pedopope Bennie. JP2 signed a decree that ALL ...


Six months or a year from now, when the newsies are talking about the 'mysterious fire' that destroyed the physical records, or the 'freak earthquake' that levelled a storage bunker, or the "legal action preventing them from disclosing"....

Remember I called it here.

The Catholics you're talking about have been at it for 2000 years. If you don't think they have this kind of shiat planned out ahead of time...
 
2013-02-19 12:43:00 AM

Acharne: I love that when he steps down, he 'loses infallibility'.


In matters of doctrine.

/atheist, but hang with a few papists.
 
2013-02-19 12:57:26 AM

SpikeStrip: "you must be this swarthy to be pope or his constituents"

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Wait, the guy in the foreground...is that Agent Coulson?
 
2013-02-19 01:26:57 AM
As much as I've known that the King of Thailand has been king since 1946, I've recently found out that he too has been blind in one eye all these years due to a car accident in his youth.
 
2013-02-19 01:29:56 AM

xaks: Six months or a year from now, when the newsies are talking about the 'mysterious fire' that destroyed the physical records, or the 'freak earthquake' that levelled a storage bunker, or the "legal action preventing them from disclosing"....

Remember I called it here.

The Catholics you're talking about have been at it for 2000 years. If you don't think they have this kind of shiat planned out ahead of time...


Wow, you've hit new levels of paranoia, my friend. If there's anything the Vatican does, it's keep records. They've still got multiple copies of every torture the Inquisition inflicted, and an accurate record of every Jew they burned; I really don't think they're going to mysteriously vanish anything they've got about this particular scandal. They've been weathering scandals a lot bigger and worse than this one--the Avignon papacy was, for the time, more of a scandal than kiddie-diddling priests will ever be--and survived the Protestant reformation and the Great Schism.

Why? Because nobody can go willy-nilly into the Vatican archives and go rummaging around for details. The Vatican is a sovereign nation with its own laws, and they don't have to give anyone access who they don't want to have access. What's going to happen is they're going to say "Molestation? What molestation?" and the rest of us are going to have to like it, or declare war on the Holy See.
 
2013-02-19 01:40:52 AM
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2013-02-19 02:14:16 AM

Gyrfalcon: xaks: Six months or a year from now, when the newsies are talking about the 'mysterious fire' that destroyed the physical records, or the 'freak earthquake' that levelled a storage bunker, or the "legal action preventing them from disclosing"....

Remember I called it here.

The Catholics you're talking about have been at it for 2000 years. If you don't think they have this kind of shiat planned out ahead of time...

Wow, you've hit new levels of paranoia, my friend. If there's anything the Vatican does, it's keep records. They've still got multiple copies of every torture the Inquisition inflicted, and an accurate record of every Jew they burned; I really don't think they're going to mysteriously vanish anything they've got about this particular scandal. They've been weathering scandals a lot bigger and worse than this one--the Avignon papacy was, for the time, more of a scandal than kiddie-diddling priests will ever be--and survived the Protestant reformation and the Great Schism.

Why? Because nobody can go willy-nilly into the Vatican archives and go rummaging around for details. The Vatican is a sovereign nation with its own laws, and they don't have to give anyone access who they don't want to have access. What's going to happen is they're going to say "Molestation? What molestation?" and the rest of us are going to have to like it, or declare war on the Holy See.


Expect to see the records on this opened up in, oh, about the year 2500 or so, when it's a distant historical curiosity.
 
2013-02-19 02:57:48 AM

iheartscotch: Noticeably F.A.T.: iheartscotch: Yes, I'm talking about some things that are long past; but, my point still stands. Saying that supporting the Catholic Church is supporting pedophilia is just as ridiculous as saying that supporting the Democratic Party is supporting slavery.

The difference between the church and your examples is that 1) the church is still actively covering up and protecting pedophiles, 2) there doesn't seem to be much separation of the different parts of the church, meaning it's difficult to just support the non-rapey parts without supporting the whole, and 3) the issues seem to be coming from the leadership down, meaning you can't just jettison the bad guys and still leave the rest of the organization. I mean, we're talking about the friggin' pope here. When it comes to leaders, he's the literal second in command. There's only one step higher you can go, and that guy is notoriously difficult to subpoena.

/To borrow your analogy, how do you only cut off the gangrenous limb if you can't tell the difference between the limb and the body? Or, why stop at one limb if the disease has spread everywhere else? Or, how do you cut off the diseased limb without killing the body when the head is the gangrenous part?

Frankly? It was mostly the work of some of the American bishops. They had the responsibility to inform the police the moment accusations became known. They shuffled the pedo priests from diocese to diocese.

I agree; the upper echelon that actually made the decision not to go to the police are also responsible. But, how much did Benedict know and when did he know it? Did the order come down from JPII or one of his handlers to bury it? Who knew what when? It would damage the church, surely; but, as long as one bishop remained; it wouldn't destroy the organization.


Wrong. Irish schools were also to blame. In fact as far as I can tell every religious boarding school from before a couple decades ago have been show to have been centers of child abuse, particularly sexual abuse. It isn't just the Catholics. Look at the stories from the Indian boarding schools in the US, almost all of them run by various denominations. Some of them the rates of abuse were estimated at 75% and that's just the sexual abuse.

The difference is that those schools were shut down years ago, and the Catholic priests were still abusing when the stories started coming to light. My understanding is that the Irish schools, for example, were shuttered before official allegations were made by victims.
 
2013-02-19 05:30:25 AM

BolloxReader: The difference is that those schools were shut down years ago


// went to anglican boarding school (Dilworth, Auckland New Zealand), and that one is STILL running
/ our priest was still working there 20 years after I escaped from that shiathole it was my unfulfilled dream to kill that man
 
2013-02-19 06:43:02 AM

iheartscotch: vudukungfu: Inflatable Rhetoric: If you give the church a cent, you're saying child rape is OK with you.
Put them out of business, and in prison.

agreed

With that logic; you shouldn't buy anything from Germany, Japan, Russia or China. Because of past atrocities.

With that logic; you shouldn't support the Democratic Party. Because of slavery.

/ That would be absolutely silly.


Um, you seem to be having trouble with the difference between "past" and "ongoing coverup of current".
 
2013-02-19 06:49:49 AM

Lsherm: BrotherMalcolm: I don't suppose it matters that he was canonized (sp?) in 2005 ish. But the cases started to appear in 1983 and on. The real media explosion around 2001-2003. Not a Rat-boy fan, or even Catholic, but I don't get people's hate for him.

Not canonized.  Saints are canonized.  Deacons, Priests and Bishops are ordained.  Cardinals are appointed or installed.  Popes are elected.


I've heard the word 'installed' used for a pope, too.
Makes me think it's like installing a dishwasher, you know, hooking up the electrical and plumbing, and bolting him to the cabinetry.
 
2013-02-19 06:51:03 AM

iheartscotch: Inflatable Rhetoric: iheartscotch: vudukungfu: Inflatable Rhetoric: If you give the church a cent, you're saying child rape is OK with you.
Put them out of business, and in prison.

agreed

With that logic; you shouldn't buy anything from Germany, Japan, Russia or China. Because of past atrocities.

With that logic; you shouldn't support the Democratic Party. Because of slavery.

/ That would be absolutely silly.

No, it wouldn't, and your analogy is weak.

How so?

For many years the Germans refused to acknolage the second world war. Many, to this day, skate over the actions of the Japanise towards the Chinese. The Russians have never made public the numbers that Stalin's purges cost them. And china refuses to acknolage that they are a human rights violator. The Democratic Party is the party that succeeded.

As organizations/countries; are they somehow less responsible for their actions than the catholic church?

Yes, I'm talking about some things that are long past; but, my point still stands. Saying that supporting the Catholic Church is supporting pedophilia is just as ridiculous as saying that supporting the Democratic Party is supporting slavery.

/ if a limb is gangrenous; do you cut off the whole body?


Your points, in order, are:  True but irrelevant, true, but ignore official apologies, and false.  Go read Bloodlands; it relies on newly-opened Soviet-era archives, among other things.

Your point about China IS correct...an ethical person should try to avoid doing business with China AND the Vatican.

Your point about the Democrats is about 130 years out of date, but I'll give you a C for effort.

You're missing the point that by extending current diplomatic immunity, the Vatican is continuing the criminal child abuse problem, and directly rewarding the perpetrators and those who abetted them.
 
2013-02-19 06:54:52 AM

Lsherm: ha-ha-guy: At one point was supposedly 24/7, but I guess that presented some problems, so now it is only when making rulings or publishing works.

It was never 24/7.  It wasn't even defined as church dogma until the late 1800's.


Yes, but they used terms that had been around for hundreds of years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility#Dogmatic_definition _o f_1870

Not like this was some new-fangled modern idea.
 
2013-02-19 06:59:11 AM

BrotherMalcolm: I don't suppose it matters that he was canonized (sp?) in 2005 ish. But the cases started to appear in 1983 and on. The real media explosion around 2001-2003. Not a Rat-boy fan, or even Catholic, but I don't get people's hate for him.


I think people have an inherent dislike for hypocrites...I know I do.

Don't set yourself up as a moral arbiter, and then shelter pedophiles and their enablers.

Personally, I've been appalled by the Vatican since they pinned a gold medal on Krupp for 'service to humanity'...after his slave labor conviction at Nuremburg.

You screw one goat...
 
2013-02-19 07:36:28 AM
Hearing aids? Blind in one eye?

THAT'S why he's stepping down! He's going out on the professional pinball circuit!
 
2013-02-19 09:51:00 AM
Religion = Superstition + $$$$$

All you need to know about that.
 
2013-02-19 01:26:57 PM
Inflatable Rhetoric: Catholic Religion = Superstition + $$$$$ + pedophilia

All you need to know about that.

FTFY
 
2013-02-21 02:49:27 PM

iheartscotch: vudukungfu: Inflatable Rhetoric: If you give the church a cent, you're saying child rape is OK with you.
Put them out of business, and in prison.

agreed

With that logic; you shouldn't buy anything from Germany, Japan, Russia or China. Because of past atrocities.

With that logic; you shouldn't support the Democratic Party. Because of slavery.


If the people responsible for those atrocities were still in charge, damn right it'd be logical.
 
2013-02-21 10:23:45 PM

PunGent: Lsherm: ha-ha-guy: At one point was supposedly 24/7, but I guess that presented some problems, so now it is only when making rulings or publishing works.

It was never 24/7.  It wasn't even defined as church dogma until the late 1800's.

Yes, but they used terms that had been around for hundreds of years:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility#Dogmatic_definition _o f_1870

Not like this was some new-fangled modern idea.


But it wasn't ever meant to be 24/7, as in the Pope would never make a mistake.  There are less than ten instances of what scholars consider infallibility and only two that meet the official definition.

It never meant the Pope couldn't make a mistake, which is what idiots, Southern Baptists, and militant fark atheists keep trying to peddle in an attempt to further their own cause.
 
2013-02-21 10:28:35 PM

Day_Old_Dutchie: Lsherm: BrotherMalcolm: I don't suppose it matters that he was canonized (sp?) in 2005 ish. But the cases started to appear in 1983 and on. The real media explosion around 2001-2003. Not a Rat-boy fan, or even Catholic, but I don't get people's hate for him.

Not canonized.  Saints are canonized.  Deacons, Priests and Bishops are ordained.  Cardinals are appointed or installed.  Popes are elected.

I've heard the word 'installed' used for a pope, too.
Makes me think it's like installing a dishwasher, you know, hooking up the electrical and plumbing, and bolting him to the cabinetry.


The Pope gets installed after he is elected.  Cardinals are not necessarily voted on, so they are usually referred to as "installed."  There are offices that Cardinals have to be elected to, and they are installed into those as well.

Ordination is the last sacrament, installation or appointment is paperwork.
 
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