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(Daily Kos)   Rush Limbaugh loses over 2,500 sponsors. They were probably just a bunch of sluts, anyway   (dailykos.com) divider line 341
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2013-02-18 10:51:56 AM
Limbaugh is still working?

I thought he had retar'd years ago.
 
2013-02-18 10:53:21 AM
Limbaugh would deny it to his dying breath, but he knows he's in serious trouble.  that man isn't stupid, plus he's as greedy as they come.  He knows down to the dollar how much he's losing in ad revenue.  But he can't back down or change his show format in even the smallest manner.  if he does, his own people will eat him alive - because that's how he's trained them.  No mercy...not even for Rush Limbaugh.

I honestly don't know if Limbaugh will be knocked off the air.  what I do know is that the efforts to remove his sponsors is costing Rush a metric assload of cash.  so much so that it's beginning to bleed over and hurt the rest of talk radio.  Advertisers are pulling money out of that market segment and looking for less controversial alternatives.  most are doing so quietly.  they want to sell a product, not buy into a controversy.  And Limbaugh knows how much he's losing and I have no doubt he feels the loss of each and every dollar right down to his toes.  Money is his religion, it's how he measures his self worth.  Every dollar lost hurts him in a way that most of us wouldn't understand.

In some ways...I find that more satisfying than if Clear Channel had just yanked the plug on el Rushbo.  having to sit there, KNOWING that you're dying the death of a 1000 cuts and being unable to do anything about it...that has to be very frustrating for the man.  And I think that's wonderful.
 
2013-02-18 10:54:55 AM
Uh, does DailyKos not understand the concept of normal attrition? No where in this article does it state how many of these companies "pulled their ads" and how many simply stopped advertising either because their campaign ended, marketing dollars dried up, change in direction, etc. The majority of these ads are local ads sold by the individual stations, which only run for a short period of time in the first place. Also, no where is it mentioned how many new ads are replacing the old ones.

Now granted, I'm not defending Limbaugh here, but I am defending honesty in journalism, but I guess that's too much to ask from DailyKos. 20 million people listen to Rush every day, and I'd be willing to be at least half of that is liberals who claim to hate him. As long as people keep listening, the ad dollars will keep coming in, controversy or not.
 
2013-02-18 10:56:32 AM

Weaver95: Limbaugh would deny it to his dying breath, but he knows he's in serious trouble.  that man isn't stupid, plus he's as greedy as they come.  He knows down to the dollar how much he's losing in ad revenue.  But he can't back down or change his show format in even the smallest manner.  if he does, his own people will eat him alive - because that's how he's trained them.  No mercy...not even for Rush Limbaugh.



Just like they turned oh him when he got busted with illegal prescription drugs...

/oh wait
//his audience is brainwashed
 
2013-02-18 10:57:44 AM

spman: Uh, does DailyKos not understand the concept of normal attrition? No where in this article does it state how many of these companies "pulled their ads" and how many simply stopped advertising either because their campaign ended, marketing dollars dried up, change in direction, etc. The majority of these ads are local ads sold by the individual stations, which only run for a short period of time in the first place. Also, no where is it mentioned how many new ads are replacing the old ones.

Now granted, I'm not defending Limbaugh here, but I am defending honesty in journalism, but I guess that's too much to ask from DailyKos. 20 million people listen to Rush every day, and I'd be willing to be at least half of that is liberals who claim to hate him. As long as people keep listening, the ad dollars will keep coming in, controversy or not.


I don't think Rush is replacing lost ad revenue.  certainly not at any rate nearly what he needs to reverse the money he's losing.  Again, Limbaugh keeps the hard data on his show's ratings very close to the vest, as well as keeping as much of his fiscal details off air as he can.  that said...Clear Channel (which owns him via subsidiary) is losing money in a big way.  so we can infer that Limbaugh is not just going down the drain on his own - he's taking a LOT of talk radio with him.
 
2013-02-18 10:57:46 AM
The idea that he ever had that many sponsors is depressing.
 
2013-02-18 10:59:26 AM
Nickster79:
Just like they turned oh him when he got busted with illegal prescription drugs...

/oh wait
//his audience is brainwashed


actually, I think he DID take an audience hit over that story.  notice how he's completely STFU about the war on drugs sine then?  he's walked close to it a couple/few times but....he never talks about drug abuse anymore.
 
2013-02-18 11:00:14 AM
...a racist, sexist, gay-hating, lying bigot

Nailed it.

I can't believe any company in the US who knows how to  read a balance sheet  would dare tie their cart to this dying horse.

Weaver95: ...the death of a 1000 cuts,

Yer right, it's actually much better this way.

/A'ight,  nuff farking around. I'ma go do stuff now. La'erz.
 
2013-02-18 11:00:19 AM
I absolutely can't stand Limbaugh, I disagree with everything he says and I think he is a terrible human being.

BUT

Some rebuff,"Freedom of Speech!" And to that I say,"Amen!" However, many of us don't believe The First Amendment was created to guarantee a hate monger like Limbaugh, his own radio show on our public airways, to stage and promote racism and misogyny while making millions.
No, I don't think that is what We The People had in mind.


This scares me.
 
2013-02-18 11:03:38 AM

spman: Uh, does DailyKos not understand the concept of normal attrition? No where in this article does it state how many of these companies "pulled their ads" and how many simply stopped advertising either because their campaign ended, marketing dollars dried up, change in direction, etc. The majority of these ads are local ads sold by the individual stations, which only run for a short period of time in the first place. Also, no where is it mentioned how many new ads are replacing the old ones.

Now granted, I'm not defending Limbaugh here, but I am defending honesty in journalism, but I guess that's too much to ask from DailyKos. 20 million people listen to Rush every day, and I'd be willing to be at least half of that is liberals who claim to hate him. As long as people keep listening, the ad dollars will keep coming in, controversy or not.


He's losing sponsors faster than he can replace them. Even if they're staying on until the end of their contracts instead of dumping Rush the moment he spews forth more of his verbal feces, they still aren't renewing their contracts.

It isn't simple attrition, it's rats fleeing a sinking ship.
 
2013-02-18 11:04:36 AM

vernonFL: I absolutely can't stand Limbaugh, I disagree with everything he says and I think he is a terrible human being.

BUT

Some rebuff,"Freedom of Speech!" And to that I say,"Amen!" However, many of us don't believe The First Amendment was created to guarantee a hate monger like Limbaugh, his own radio show on our public airways, to stage and promote racism and misogyny while making millions.
No, I don't think that is what We The People had in mind.

This scares me.


Yeah, that is not a positive development.  I believe the Constitution guarantees the right to completely suck.
 
2013-02-18 11:06:09 AM

spman: Now granted, I'm not defending Limbaugh here,


You're just concerned and you have some questions.
 
2013-02-18 11:07:08 AM

vernonFL: I absolutely can't stand Limbaugh, I disagree with everything he says and I think he is a terrible human being.

BUT

Some rebuff,"Freedom of Speech!" And to that I say,"Amen!" However, many of us don't believe The First Amendment was created to guarantee a hate monger like Limbaugh, his own radio show on our public airways, to stage and promote racism and misogyny while making millions.
No, I don't think that is what We The People had in mind.

This scares me.


think of it this way - Limbaugh has the right to pontificate at length about the evils of gays, liburls, abortion, Occupy Wall Street or whatever else is on his mind.  the government cannot shut him down now matter HOW offensive he is, or what he says.  But....we don't have to listen.  we can walk away.  we can also tell his advertisers that if they keep supporting Rush Limbaugh, then we won't be buying their products or using their services.  Nor will our friends and families.  And that's fine too.

at no point is the government involved in any of this.  it's the free market at work.  Rush gets to say whatever he wants to say...and we can (and will) take his empire apart brick by brick and watch him slide into oblivion.  everyone is happy (well, except for Limbaugh of course), and the system works as intended.
 
2013-02-18 11:09:22 AM
He'll die from poor health before he's off the air.

But what's up with all the college sponsors?  Bleh.
 
2013-02-18 11:10:10 AM

King Something: spman: Uh, does DailyKos not understand the concept of normal attrition? No where in this article does it state how many of these companies "pulled their ads" and how many simply stopped advertising either because their campaign ended, marketing dollars dried up, change in direction, etc. The majority of these ads are local ads sold by the individual stations, which only run for a short period of time in the first place. Also, no where is it mentioned how many new ads are replacing the old ones.

Now granted, I'm not defending Limbaugh here, but I am defending honesty in journalism, but I guess that's too much to ask from DailyKos. 20 million people listen to Rush every day, and I'd be willing to be at least half of that is liberals who claim to hate him. As long as people keep listening, the ad dollars will keep coming in, controversy or not.

He's losing sponsors faster than he can replace them. Even if they're staying on until the end of their contracts instead of dumping Rush the moment he spews forth more of his verbal feces, they still aren't renewing their contracts.

It isn't simple attrition, it's rats fleeing a sinking ship.


Limbaugh is on close to 600 stations across the country. Unless you can get data from every single one of those stations, you don't know that. With an audience the size of Limbaugh's, the ad dollars are still going to come in, controversy or not. It seems every year we get these articles about how Rush Limbaugh makes some controversial hyperbolic statement and how it's going to lead to the end of his career, but yet still he remains. The next headline is going to read "This is not a repeat from 1992, 1994, 1996, 1997 etc.".
 
2013-02-18 11:10:37 AM
GOOD
 
2013-02-18 11:11:50 AM
What's it going to take? We need more sponsor contact, we need a public outcry,

OK! Sounds good. Hit him where it hurts.

and we need help from the FCC for regulations broken. Some rebuff,"Freedom of Speech!" And to that I say,"Amen!" However, many of us don't believe The First Amendment was created to guarantee a hate monger like Limbaugh, his own radio show on our public airways, to stage and promote racism and misogyny while making millions.

No, I don't think that is what We The People had in mind.


Aaannndd ya lost me.

Get bent, fascist.
 
2013-02-18 11:12:09 AM

Rapmaster2000: vernonFL: This scares me.

Yeah, that is not a positive development.  I believe the Constitution guarantees the right to completely suck.


As long as their efforts to silence him remain squarely within the exercise of their first amendment rights, there's no problem.

Here in Canada, he would have had to justify his behaviour in front of a human rights commission a long time ago.  As repugnant as it is from an American point of view, being a colossal douchebag impugning the rights of others is a fireable offense here.
 
2013-02-18 11:13:47 AM

spman: Uh, does DailyKos not understand the concept of normal attrition? No where in this article does it state how many of these companies "pulled their ads" and how many simply stopped advertising either because their campaign ended, marketing dollars dried up, change in direction, etc. The majority of these ads are local ads sold by the individual stations, which only run for a short period of time in the first place. Also, no where is it mentioned how many new ads are replacing the old ones.

Now granted, I'm not defending Limbaugh here, but I am defending honesty in journalism, but I guess that's too much to ask from DailyKos.


They make their bones being tendentious - same as Rush. For them and Media Matters it's a symbiotic relationship with Rush. And good for all of them if the mutual-trolling business model is profitable.

Weaver95: Clear Channel (which owns him via subsidiary) is losing money in a big way. so we can infer that Limbaugh is not just going down the drain on his own - he's taking a LOT of talk radio with him.


This makes more sense. They've had a real nice run, but eventually the advertising had to broaden beyond the easy pickings like hair-loss products and borderline-quack medicine, and that didn't happen. Instead they took the path of least resistance to a dead end, and now that there's more competition for time they can't keep up. He started this gig in his 30's and now he's in his 60's, and it shows in his program. It's not offensive. It's boring. It's slow, and not in the Paul Harvey dramatic-pause sense of the word.
 
2013-02-18 11:14:24 AM

Amos Quito: Limbaugh is still working?

I thought he had retar'd years ago.


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2013-02-18 11:15:47 AM

Diogenes: He'll die from poor health before he's off the air.

But what's up with all the college sponsors?  Bleh.




there are large numbers of home schoolers, helicopter parents, and others listening that colleges target for admissions
 
2013-02-18 11:15:55 AM

spman: Limbaugh is on close to 600 stations across the country. Unless you can get data from every single one of those stations, you don't know that. With an audience the size of Limbaugh's, the ad dollars are still going to come in, controversy or not. It seems every year we get these articles about how Rush Limbaugh makes some controversial hyperbolic statement and how it's going to lead to the end of his career, but yet still he remains. The next headline is going to read "This is not a repeat from 1992, 1994, 1996, 1997 etc.".


actually, we can kinda/sorta guess how Limbaugh is doing by looking at the fiscal reporting of the companies that back him.  And they are not doing well at all.  so can we be precise?  no.  Can we confidently say that Limbaugh is in serious financial trouble?  oh hells ya!  in fact most of talk radio isn't doing very well right now.

you do raise a valid point - Limbaugh has been around for a long, long time.  its taken him decades to build his media empire...which means it'll probably take him a while to fall from his perch.  he's not going away tomorrow or any time in the immediate future.  But he's definitely sliding into decline.  the question you should be asking is this: can Rush Limbaugh reverse his slide into slow death?  For my part...I think he'll try like hell to stay on top...but all things must come to an end, and even Rush Limbaugh can and will finally fall.
 
2013-02-18 11:16:30 AM

vernonFL: I absolutely can't stand Limbaugh, I disagree with everything he says and I think he is a terrible human being.

BUT

Some rebuff,"Freedom of Speech!" And to that I say,"Amen!" However, many of us don't believe The First Amendment was created to guarantee a hate monger like Limbaugh, his own radio show on our public airways, to stage and promote racism and misogyny while making millions.
No, I don't think that is what We The People had in mind.

This scares me.


The FCC has not and will not act to silence Limbaugh from exercising his right to protected speech.  The bleeding of sponsors is not related to the First Amendment, indeed it is the First Amendment in action.

Rush has the right to be the complete and total douchebag he is, and while I think he toes the line on the advocation of violence or the overthrow of the government, he's clever enough to keep it on the safe side of that line.
 
2013-02-18 11:18:37 AM
He could retire with whatever dignity he has left. He has to have enough money, unless he's on the junk again. Then again what do I care, the more he speaks the more moronic he and his ilk appear to be.
 
2013-02-18 11:19:03 AM
Is this drug-addled chickenhawk still on Armed Forces Radio?
 
2013-02-18 11:23:04 AM
Weaver95: spman: Limbaugh is on close to 600 stations across the country. Unless you can get data from every single one of those stations, you don't know that. With an audience the size of Limbaugh's, the ad dollars are still going to come in, controversy or not. It seems every year we get these articles about how Rush Limbaugh makes some controversial hyperbolic statement and how it's going to lead to the end of his career, but yet still he remains. The next headline is going to read "This is not a repeat from 1992, 1994, 1996, 1997 etc.".

actually, we can kinda/sorta guess how Limbaugh is doing by looking at the fiscal reporting of the companies that back him.  And they are not doing well at all.  so can we be precise?  no.  Can we confidently say that Limbaugh is in serious financial trouble?  oh hells ya!  in fact most of talk radio isn't doing very well right now.

you do raise a valid point - Limbaugh has been around for a long, long time.  its taken him decades to build his media empire...which means it'll probably take him a while to fall from his perch.  he's not going away tomorrow or any time in the immediate future.  But he's definitely sliding into decline.  the question you should be asking is this: can Rush Limbaugh reverse his slide into slow death?  For my part...I think he'll try like hell to stay on top...but all things must come to an end, and even Rush Limbaugh can and will finally fall.


The companies that advertise on Rush and most talk radio shows in general aren't exactly Fortune 500 caliber in the first place. The majority of the ads that run nationally are for investment scams, quack medicine, timeshares, insurance, and useless services that cater towards the paranoid and technologically impaired seniors that make up most of the audience, such as Carbonite and LifeLock. Most of these companies always exist on the brink of solvency in the first place, and once they go bankrupt, they just get replace by other equally shady advertisers.

This is also the reason why claiming that you will boycott Rush's advertisers isn't going to have any affect. No one with a brain is going to patronize any of these scams to begin with.
 
2013-02-18 11:23:05 AM

Mugato: He could retire with whatever dignity he has left. He has to have enough money, unless he's on the junk again. Then again what do I care, the more he speaks the more moronic he and his ilk appear to be.


nah.  my gut feeling is that Limbaugh would die without his radio show.  he NEEDS that attention.  he can't live without it.  even negative attention keeps him going.  he's an extreme narcissist.  even if you are insulting him, he thrives on the attention and disgust he generates.  he loves having powerful political leaders on his show, he gets off on being invited to big time political events, parties or whatnot.
 
2013-02-18 11:24:53 AM
spman:
The companies that advertise on Rush and most talk radio shows in general aren't exactly Fortune 500 caliber in the first place. The majority of the ads that run nationally are for investment scams, quack medicine, timeshares, insurance, and useless services that cater towards the paranoid and technologically impaired seniors that make up most of the audience, such as Carbonite and LifeLock. Most of these companies always exist on the brink of solvency in the first place, and once they go bankrupt, they just get replace by other equally shady advertisers.

you can keep moving those goal posts all you want...the fact remains that there is sufficient evidence to indicate Limbaugh (and talk radio) is having some serious cash flow issues...and those issues aren't getting any better.  Limbaugh is in trouble, his industry is in trouble...and I think Rush knows it.
 
2013-02-18 11:29:57 AM

vernonFL: I absolutely can't stand Limbaugh, I disagree with everything he says and I think he is a terrible human being.

BUT

Some rebuff,"Freedom of Speech!" And to that I say,"Amen!" However, many of us don't believe The First Amendment was created to guarantee a hate monger like Limbaugh, his own radio show on our public airways, to stage and promote racism and misogyny while making millions.
No, I don't think that is what We The People had in mind.

This scares me.


I agree with the defense of free speech, but Limpbaugh does serious harm with his propaganda. You have the right to walk down the street, but not if you make yourself king of the corner by bullying and haranging passers by.

Anyway, as others have pointed out, the petition does not represent the government interfering with his right to speak. It represents other people exercising their right to free speech. It's the glorious Free Market speaking.
 
2013-02-18 11:30:24 AM

Weaver95: Nickster79:
Just like they turned oh him when he got busted with illegal prescription drugs...

/oh wait
//his audience is brainwashed

actually, I think he DID take an audience hit over that story.  notice how he's completely STFU about the war on drugs sine then?  he's walked close to it a couple/few times but....he never talks about drug abuse anymore.


Good point
 
2013-02-18 11:32:58 AM

Weaver95: spman:
The companies that advertise on Rush and most talk radio shows in general aren't exactly Fortune 500 caliber in the first place. The majority of the ads that run nationally are for investment scams, quack medicine, timeshares, insurance, and useless services that cater towards the paranoid and technologically impaired seniors that make up most of the audience, such as Carbonite and LifeLock. Most of these companies always exist on the brink of solvency in the first place, and once they go bankrupt, they just get replace by other equally shady advertisers.

you can keep moving those goal posts all you want...the fact remains that there is sufficient evidence to indicate Limbaugh (and talk radio) is having some serious cash flow issues...and those issues aren't getting any better.  Limbaugh is in trouble, his industry is in trouble...and I think Rush knows it.


Isn't that what happened to Glenn Beck? His sponsors finally got down to 1-800-Buy-Gold and other shiate, and that was right around the time he shut down.  Perhaps Rush is planning to launch his own "university."
 
2013-02-18 11:34:15 AM
My comment from the Rush Mocks Children thread:

I've lost several good friends to Rush.

Normal, intelligent, likable people, who have inexplicably become bitter, narrow-minded, spewers of his rhetoric.

I'm not sure how this happens.  There must be some sort of genetic circuit breaker in white males over the age of 50 that trips, and turns off the rational portions of their brains.

################################

So now the question will be if and when Rush goes off the air, what happens to the millions of similar listeners?
 
2013-02-18 11:35:52 AM

MrBallou: I agree with the defense of free speech, but Limpbaugh does serious harm with his propaganda. You have the right to walk down the street, but not if you make yourself king of the corner by bullying and haranging passers by.


If you don't like Limbaugh, don't listen to him.  Yes he has infected a certain percentage of the public with lies and nonsense.  That's part of the equation, and you have to believe that in the end, truth will win out.

The alternative of government picking and choosing acceptable political speech is too terrible to contemplate.
 
2013-02-18 11:36:14 AM

Weaver95: spman:
The companies that advertise on Rush and most talk radio shows in general aren't exactly Fortune 500 caliber in the first place. The majority of the ads that run nationally are for investment scams, quack medicine, timeshares, insurance, and useless services that cater towards the paranoid and technologically impaired seniors that make up most of the audience, such as Carbonite and LifeLock. Most of these companies always exist on the brink of solvency in the first place, and once they go bankrupt, they just get replace by other equally shady advertisers.

you can keep moving those goal posts all you want...the fact remains that there is sufficient evidence to indicate Limbaugh (and talk radio) is having some serious cash flow issues...and those issues aren't getting any better.  Limbaugh is in trouble, his industry is in trouble...and I think Rush knows it.


I am not moving goalposts. My point is that there are an endless number of well funded, ethically dubious businesses that are more than willing to buy ad space on Rush, and don't care about controversy because they themselves are running scams. As long as Rush continues to be propped up by these junk advertisers, he will continue to be on the air. You can't beat him by attacking the advertisers, the only way to take him down is by going after the individual stations that carry him, and convince them to drop him.

If I had access to a wider range of newspaper archives going back 20 years, I can guarantee you that I would find the same exact article linked here, word for word from 1993. The market for controversy is huge, and as long as people keep listening, it will continue to exist.
 
2013-02-18 11:36:52 AM
God Is My Co-Pirate:
Isn't that what happened to Glenn Beck? His sponsors finally got down to 1-800-Buy-Gold and other shiate, and that was right around the time he shut down.  Perhaps Rush is planning to launch his own "university."

its hard to pin down the specifics with these guys but...yeah.  Beck finally went to far even for Fox News and starting causing them cash flow issues.  he left the network right before they fired his ass.

In limbaugh's case, I suspect the details of his next contract renewal (if there ever IS one at this point) are going to be kept under wraps as much as possible and will result in a significant pay cut for Mr. Limbaugh.
 
2013-02-18 11:37:44 AM

markie_farkie: So now the question will be if and when Rush goes off the air, what happens to the millions of similar listeners?


Nature abhors a vacuum.  They'll start listening to Hannity, or maybe some upstart we haven't really heard of yet.
 
2013-02-18 11:37:50 AM
Glen Beck seen grinning and nodding slowly while rubbing his hands together.
 
2013-02-18 11:39:55 AM

spman: I am not moving goalposts. My point is that there are an endless number of well funded, ethically dubious businesses that are more than willing to buy ad space on Rush, and don't care about controversy because they themselves are running scams. As long as Rush continues to be propped up by these junk advertisers, he will continue to be on the air. You can't beat him by attacking the advertisers, the only way to take him down is by going after the individual stations that carry him, and convince them to drop him.

If I had access to a wider range of newspaper archives going back 20 years, I can guarantee you that I would find the same exact article linked here, word for word from 1993. The market for controversy is huge, and as long as people keep listening, it will continue to exist.


...so vote Republican...?

look - Rush is in trouble.  serious trouble.  He actually had to give an apology ON AIR to Sandra Fluke.  ok, granted it was the lamest sort of non-apology ever but...he's NEVER done that before.  Never in 20 years has the lord gawd almighty of talk radio lowered himself to say 'I'm sorry' to one of the people he's attacked during his show.  smart money might ponder what could force such a (literally!) unprecedented event to happen....
 
2013-02-18 11:40:39 AM

gilgigamesh: MrBallou: I agree with the defense of free speech, but Limpbaugh does serious harm with his propaganda. You have the right to walk down the street, but not if you make yourself king of the corner by bullying and haranging passers by.

If you don't like Limbaugh, don't listen to him.  Yes he has infected a certain percentage of the public with lies and nonsense.  That's part of the equation, and you have to believe that in the end, truth will win out.

The alternative of government picking and choosing acceptable political speech is too terrible to contemplate.


I don't listen to him, but I do hear lots of people repeating his toxic ideas, sometimes word for word (when I've gone back to check).

Nobody is advocating the government shutting Rush or anybody else up. I'm just glad enough people are catching on to him that he may finally stop making a profit from his lies.
 
2013-02-18 11:41:42 AM

Weaver95: Never in 20 years has the lord gawd almighty of talk radio lowered himself to say 'I'm sorry' to one of the people he's attacked during his show.


Sure he has.  I don't know if he's ever apologized personally to someone he mocked -- I don't think he really did that with Fluke either -- but he's had to apologize for his on-air comments several times.
 
2013-02-18 11:41:53 AM

Weaver95: look - Rush is in trouble.  serious trouble.  He actually had to give an apology ON AIR to Sandra Fluke.  ok, granted it was the lamest sort of non-apology ever but...he's NEVER done that before.  Never in 20 years has the lord gawd almighty of talk radio lowered himself to say 'I'm sorry' to one of the people he's attacked during his show.  smart money might ponder what could force such a (literally!) unprecedented event to happen....


So much THIS.
 
2013-02-18 11:43:16 AM

MrBallou: I don't listen to him, but I do hear lots of people repeating his toxic ideas, sometimes word for word (when I've gone back to check).

Nobody is advocating the government shutting Rush or anybody else up. I'm just glad enough people are catching on to him that he may finally stop making a profit from his lies.


Well, I meant 'you' in the objective sense.  Like 'one'.  Toward the general point that if one does not like Limbaugh, one need only not listen.

And yes, someone was advocating shutting Rush up.  It was right there in tfa, in fact.
 
2013-02-18 11:44:09 AM
Specifically: tfa was advocating the FCC citing Rush for obscenity or something.
 
2013-02-18 11:44:20 AM

gilgigamesh: Weaver95: Never in 20 years has the lord gawd almighty of talk radio lowered himself to say 'I'm sorry' to one of the people he's attacked during his show.

Sure he has.  I don't know if he's ever apologized personally to someone he mocked -- I don't think he really did that with Fluke either -- but he's had to apologize for his on-air comments several times.


He has NEVER apologized.  not once.  Ever.  not in 20 years.  And yet...he did just that.  plus he hired a media consultant to help him clean up his image.   none of which he did on his own mind you...he was forced to take those actions by his bosses at clear channel.  so even if Limbaugh himself is willing to ride his show into a massive crater, his corporate overlords aren't willing to follow him on that particular death ride.  THEY are certainly concerned at the damage he's done to the industry.  which should tell you something right there.
 
2013-02-18 11:47:17 AM

gilgigamesh: Specifically: tfa was advocating the FCC citing Rush for obscenity or something.


Yeah, make him a 1st amendment martyr, like Howard Stern was in the '80s or '90s.
 
2013-02-18 11:47:57 AM

Weaver95: gilgigamesh: Weaver95: Never in 20 years has the lord gawd almighty of talk radio lowered himself to say 'I'm sorry' to one of the people he's attacked during his show.

Sure he has.  I don't know if he's ever apologized personally to someone he mocked -- I don't think he really did that with Fluke either -- but he's had to apologize for his on-air comments several times.

He has NEVER apologized.  not once.  Ever.  not in 20 years.  And yet...he did just that.  plus he hired a media consultant to help him clean up his image.   none of which he did on his own mind you...he was forced to take those actions by his bosses at clear channel.  so even if Limbaugh himself is willing to ride his show into a massive crater, his corporate overlords aren't willing to follow him on that particular death ride.  THEY are certainly concerned at the damage he's done to the industry.  which should tell you something right there.




I specifically recall him apologizing for the "white house dog" crack about Chelsea Clinton. And there were others:

The last six times Limbaugh apologized
 
2013-02-18 11:48:39 AM

Mugato: gilgigamesh: Specifically: tfa was advocating the FCC citing Rush for obscenity or something.

Yeah, make him a 1st amendment martyr, like Howard Stern was in the '80s or '90s.


He'd probably love nothing more right now.
 
2013-02-18 11:50:29 AM

gilgigamesh: Well, I meant 'you' in the objective sense. Like 'one'. Toward the general point that if one does not like Limbaugh, one need only not listen.


My point it that, if you listen to politics at all, you have to hear Rush-generated idea being pushed by our elected officials. It's why Congress doesn't work any more.

And yes, someone was advocating shutting Rush up. It was right there in tfa, in fact.

Yes, by individuals, not the government. Again: NOT THE GOVERNMENT. Does it say that they want government intervention anywhere in tfa?
 
2013-02-18 11:51:09 AM
gilgigamesh:
I specifically recall him apologizing for the "white house dog" crack about Chelsea Clinton. And there were others:

The last six times Limbaugh apologized


huh.  can't say I ever remember that happening before.  I stand corrected...but even so, in all his time on air, it's RARE for Limbaugh to apologize.  6 (now 7) apologies in 20+ years on air?  And in each and every one of those instances it looks as if Limbaugh was forced into those non-apologies by someone further up the corporate food chain from him.
 
2013-02-18 11:52:44 AM
gilgigamesh:
And yes, someone was advocating shutting Rush up.  It was right there in tfa, in fact.

private individuals, yes.  not the government.  if you and I can find a way to force Limbaugh off the air without government help, then it's all good.
 
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