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(Guardian)   Mistrust between Sunni and Shia reaches boiling point in Pakistan. So much for their peace and love of 'I've got you babe'   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 49
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2013-02-18 08:23:13 AM  
Big surprise.  They've only been slitting each others throats since the 12th century.
 
2013-02-18 09:38:00 AM  
Uh, when was that?
 
2013-02-18 09:39:47 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Big surprise.  They've only been slitting each others throats since the 12th century.


The best case scenario for the world? Sunni and Shia go full nuclear retard on one another.
 
jty
2013-02-18 09:40:13 AM  
Took me a second. Very nicely done, subby.
 
2013-02-18 09:42:08 AM  
Could be great news, maybe they will kill each other and leave the kufar alone.
 
2013-02-18 09:42:48 AM  
Is it groundhog day again?
 
2013-02-18 09:43:52 AM  
Painful headline subby, I hope you ski into a tree.
 
2013-02-18 09:46:30 AM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Big surprise.  They've only been slitting each others throats since the 12th century.


Like good followers of Allah.
Definitely the sort of maniac you want to give aid to and welcome into your country.
If you are FAKING CRAZY.
 
2013-02-18 09:47:48 AM  
Well it's obvious.  Shia doesn't have a double consonant and the I is in the wrong place.
Obviously zionist infidels.

Silence!  I KEEELLL YOUUUU!

These morons have been at war for thousands of years, they know nothing else as far back as they care to remember.
They hate because that's what they do.
 
2013-02-18 09:50:13 AM  
Pakistan's rulers under fire after Quetta bombing

Either this author is the biggest idiot in journalism or the biggest genius.  Not quite sure yet.
 
2013-02-18 09:52:44 AM  
Religious people that are religion-hating.
i.imgur.com

What will they think of next?
 
2013-02-18 09:54:24 AM  
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sunni and shia?
 
2013-02-18 09:54:44 AM  
What a bunch of dumbasses.

Seriously. We'd be better off avoiding that whole region of the world as much as possible.
 
2013-02-18 09:55:45 AM  

bighairyguy: Painful headline subby, I hope you ski into a tree.


/sees what you did there
 
2013-02-18 09:57:09 AM  
Pakistan has been such a stablizing force in that region too.
 
2013-02-18 09:58:44 AM  

WelldeadLink: bighairyguy: Painful headline subby, I hope you ski into a tree.

/sees what you did there


A chorus of "BOOOOOOOO!" for everyone, then.
 
2013-02-18 09:58:56 AM  
Muslim on muslim violence. Mud people problem.
 
2013-02-18 10:02:27 AM  
Groan worthy but funny Subby. +1
 
2013-02-18 10:21:55 AM  
I feel sorry for those trapped in the violence over there.  I worked closely with several Pakistanis in my previous job.  All of them were very level-headed, well educated and some of the nicest and most generous people I've met.  When I visited Karachi in April 2012, the city was suffering from a series of general strikes called by the various political parties.  This usually meant no bus or taxi service and the office was sparsely populated.  No real violence or safety issues during these strikes.  A few buses were burned, but that was about it.  I returned in September and all was quiet until the youtube protests started several days after the rest of the region.  Then things got weird.  The live TV feed had footage of the police firing on the protesters and retreating towards the US consulate.  That's when I left.  3 days of violent protests ensued, followed by a national day of peaceful protest (which it was compared to the previous days).  What I noticed were the protesters were the chronically impoverished who had been worked into a froth by their religious leaders.  The line between political party and religious sects were rather blurry.  My co-workers were not part of this and were ashamed that the situation had degraded so.

While I'm no expert, I had conversations with my co-workers about the situation prior to the September violence and their thoughts were that part of the problem is the rampant endemic corruption in the government.  Another part of the problem is that it is easy for the religious leaders to influence the under-educated and chronically poor that their situation is because the West is oppressing them.  I would bet my right nut that 99% of the protesters in Karachi in mid September had never seen the youtube video in question, and 98% of them had never seen youtube.  I'm not sure if more than a handful of them have even seen the internet.  There is some crushing poverty in that part of the world.  It was a major inconvenience when the political parties were calling strikes to protest each other.  It was a question of my safety as an American when the youtube protests started and western interests were at risk, but it was still an "us against the west" mentality.  Now it's Shia versus Sunni -- it will not get better.  It's no longer "the government factions are corrupt" or "the west is oppressing us".  They've gone back to the original operating system code now.  This will not end well.

I hope that my Pakistani friends and former co-workers and their families stay safe.
 
2013-02-18 10:28:27 AM  
"Jew babe...I got Jew babe..."
 
2013-02-18 10:31:59 AM  
I don't understand... how can this be?

i45.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-18 10:35:17 AM  
The only thing that surprises me is that I wouldn't have thought there were that many shiates in Pakistan.
 
2013-02-18 10:38:33 AM  
So...that whole Caliphate thing the wingnuts told me to worry about isn't happening this week, either?
 
2013-02-18 10:42:43 AM  
When did we develop this Islam fetish, America?

/Religion: Just an excuse for murder.
 
2013-02-18 10:44:28 AM  

ArkPanda: The only thing that surprises me is that I wouldn't have thought there were that many shiates in Pakistan.


"shiate" is wingnut code for IRAN.
 
2013-02-18 10:44:47 AM  

gorrck: What I noticed were the protesters were the chronically impoverished who had been worked into a froth by their religious leaders.


AKA, the easily-exploited dumbasses of the world.
 
2013-02-18 10:51:47 AM  
I remember watching The Sunni and Shia Show back when I was a kid.
 
2013-02-18 10:52:26 AM  
I'm glad they've found something more worthwhile to do than burn American flags.

Sit back, stoke the fires.
 
2013-02-18 10:54:18 AM  

vudukungfu: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Big surprise.  They've only been slitting each others throats since the 12th century.

Like good followers of Allah.
Definitely the sort of maniac you want to give aid to and welcome into your country.
If you are FAKING CRAZY.


It's really no different than Protestants and Catholics. One group thinks than the invisible sky wizard only talks to a select group of people, and the other group thinks the wizard talks to everyone.
 
2013-02-18 10:57:28 AM  

computerguyUT: These morons have been at war for thousands of years, they know nothing else as far back as they care to remember.
They hate because that's what they do.


No.  You know who I blame?  The queers (nsfw language).

Somehow, if we could stop the gays from getting married, everything else would turn out just fine!
 
2013-02-18 11:06:01 AM  
Well done, subby.
 
2013-02-18 11:19:14 AM  
"I've got your back" =  bulletinoftheoppressionofwomen.com
 
2013-02-18 11:25:32 AM  
No no, Pakistan is quite different. Their version is "I've got your baby.... and I'm going to slaughter it like a goat."
 
2013-02-18 11:54:52 AM  
Late 20th century: US vs USSR / "Capitalism" vs "Communism" proxy wars

Early 20th century: Saudi Arabia vs Iran / Sunni vs Shia proxy wars.

Go, lemmings, go!
 
2013-02-18 12:12:44 PM  
My rule for civilization:

If you're still fighting as "tribes" in the 21st Century, then the rest of the world doesn't need you. Hurry up and annihilate each other so the rest of us all get more food.
 
2013-02-18 12:44:44 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: vudukungfu: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Big surprise.  They've only been slitting each others throats since the 12th century.

Like good followers of Allah.
Definitely the sort of maniac you want to give aid to and welcome into your country.
If you are FAKING CRAZY.

It's really no different than Protestants and Catholics. One group thinks than the invisible sky wizard only talks to a select group of people, and the other group thinks the wizard talks to everyone.


This.  I asked my Iraqi pastor the difference between sunni and shia.  He said Protestants and Catholics.  Wasn't expecting an answer like that.  He was shia originally, then atheist, evangelical.

At one time his tribe was negotiating with another tribe on something that would benefit them both.  The talks failed.  He said, I knew we couldn't make it because we can't even agree when we both benefit.
 
2013-02-18 12:52:55 PM  

Felix_T_Cat: It's really no different than Protestants and Catholics. One group thinks than the invisible sky wizard only talks to a select group of people, and the other group thinks the wizard talks to everyone.

This.  I asked my Iraqi pastor the difference between sunni and shia.  He said Protestants and Catholics.  Wasn't expecting an answer like that.  He was shia originally, then atheist, evangelical.

At one time his tribe was negotiating with another tribe on something that would benefit them both.  The talks failed.  He said, I knew we couldn't make it because we can't even agree when we both benefit.


Exactly.
None of them have any value at all.
they have no validity.
they are nothing but trouble
and if you belong to any group with an invisible friend, just do us all a favor and drink the farking kool-aid already.
Stay the fark off my planet and go live on your own.
/Not just my farking yard.
//My farking PLANET, assholes with sky wizards.
///Join your god. Be invisible, too.
 
2013-02-18 01:15:11 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: vudukungfu: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Big surprise.  They've only been slitting each others throats since the 12th century.

Like good followers of Allah.
Definitely the sort of maniac you want to give aid to and welcome into your country.
If you are FAKING CRAZY.

It's really no different than Protestants and Catholics. One group thinks than the invisible sky wizard only talks to a select group of people, and the other group thinks the wizard talks to everyone.

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m00
2013-02-18 01:46:52 PM  

vudukungfu: Exactly.
None of them have any value at all.
they have no validity.
they are nothing but trouble
and if you belong to any group with an invisible friend, just do us all a favor and drink the farking kool-aid already.
Stay the fark off my planet and go live on your own.
/Not just my farking yard.
//My farking PLANET, assholes with sky wizards.
///Join your god. Be invisible, too.


When religious wars come to North America (and I mean bombings, beheadings, and so forth on a massive scale), then you may have a point. Until then 2/10
 
2013-02-18 01:48:57 PM  
Ah - the religion of peace.
 
2013-02-18 01:51:19 PM  

m00: vudukungfu: Exactly.
None of them have any value at all.
they have no validity.
they are nothing but trouble
and if you belong to any group with an invisible friend, just do us all a favor and drink the farking kool-aid already.
Stay the fark off my planet and go live on your own.
/Not just my farking yard.
//My farking PLANET, assholes with sky wizards.
///Join your god. Be invisible, too.

When religious wars come to North America (and I mean bombings, beheadings, and so forth on a massive scale), then you may have a point. Until then 2/10


Christians sects have mostly outgrown this sectarian self-destruction, but only within the last few hundred years. Protestants and Catholics wage war for hundreds of years over their differences. The comparison is spot-on.
 
2013-02-18 02:09:35 PM  
Religion is about things that make people feel good. Community, life beyond the destruction of the body, being reunited with deceased relatives, good works.

It is also about POWER.

The difference between Sunni and Shia? The difference over which they slaughter countless innocent men, women and children? Read on:

"The division between Sunnis and Shi'as is the largest and oldest in the history of Islam.

They both agree on the fundamentals of Islam and share the same Holy Book (The Qur'an), but there are differences mostly derived from their different historical experiences, political and social developments, as well as ethnic composition.

These differences originate from the question of who would succeed the Prophet Muhammad as leader of the emerging Muslim community after his death.



-- BBC Religions
-- Sunni and Shia
-- Last Updated 2009-08-19


Never forget the power component.
 
2013-02-18 02:14:16 PM  

Pollexter: m00: vudukungfu: Exactly.
None of them have any value at all.
they have no validity.
they are nothing but trouble
and if you belong to any group with an invisible friend, just do us all a favor and drink the farking kool-aid already.
Stay the fark off my planet and go live on your own.
/Not just my farking yard.
//My farking PLANET, assholes with sky wizards.
///Join your god. Be invisible, too.

When religious wars come to North America (and I mean bombings, beheadings, and so forth on a massive scale), then you may have a point. Until then 2/10

Christians sects have mostly outgrown this sectarian self-destruction, but only within the last few hundred years. Protestants and Catholics wage war for hundreds of years over their differences. The comparison is spot-on.


 pointing to hundreds year old stupidity to justify current stupidity is just stupid and Tu Quoque.
 
2013-02-18 04:04:01 PM  
Smitty, you deserve a nice, cold beer for that headline. well played.
 
2013-02-18 06:32:04 PM  
Sunni's believe you can be saved from hell
shiates believe once your in hell.  your in hell forever

gee
i wonder why they fight
 
2013-02-18 06:42:34 PM  
good headline
 
2013-02-18 06:48:48 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: Sunni's believe you can be saved from hell
shiates believe once your in hell.  your in hell forever

gee
i wonder why they fight


A northern Baptist says there is no hell.
A southern Baptist say the hell there ain't.

Piss on them all for indoctrinating our children with anything other than science, and don't be a dick.
 
2013-02-18 07:21:03 PM  

Felix_T_Cat: Tyrone Slothrop: vudukungfu: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Big surprise.  They've only been slitting each others throats since the 12th century.

Like good followers of Allah.
Definitely the sort of maniac you want to give aid to and welcome into your country.
If you are FAKING CRAZY.

It's really no different than Protestants and Catholics. One group thinks than the invisible sky wizard only talks to a select group of people, and the other group thinks the wizard talks to everyone.

This.  I asked my Iraqi pastor the difference between sunni and shia.  He said Protestants and Catholics.  Wasn't expecting an answer like that.  He was shia originally, then atheist, evangelical.

At one time his tribe was negotiating with another tribe on something that would benefit them both.  The talks failed.  He said, I knew we couldn't make it because we can't even agree when we both benefit.


The exact reason Israel still exists.
 
2013-02-18 09:16:03 PM  
Yes, definitely an early candidate for headline of the year.

Props!
 
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