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(Bubblews)   Scientists have found a possible treatment for deadly viruses, including HIV, which may prevent the onset of full-blown AIDS by blocking enzymes in cells. Still no cure for cancer   (bubblews.com ) divider line
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2013-02-18 07:21:44 AM  
Why use it only on AIDS? How about curing the common cold?
 
2013-02-18 07:22:49 AM  
HIV cures are the vaporware of pharmacology.
 
2013-02-18 07:33:11 AM  
this will instantly be opposed by Right wing groups as being unchristian and promoting Teh Homosex Agenda.
 
2013-02-18 07:38:45 AM  
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Sorry about last weekend.
 
2013-02-18 07:50:58 AM  
This is a repeat.
 
2013-02-18 07:54:25 AM  

Father_Jack: this will instantly be opposed by Right wing groups as being unchristian and promoting Teh Homosex Agenda.

 
2013-02-18 08:08:24 AM  
And by 'treatment' they mean another pill people will have to pay 500 dollars a month for for the rest of her life. Because we don't research cures anymore, just treatments.
 
2013-02-18 08:19:49 AM  
Relevant XKCD:

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/The current health system is about as corrupt as modern politics and religion. I'm sure we'll continue shoveling our money towards "treatments" for cancer and diseases such as HIV for quite some time. Hey, at the very least you can sleep soundly at night that you're keeping some suits bank account from ever running dry.
 
2013-02-18 08:27:34 AM  
There's already a vaccine for HIV. It's called dontinjectyourselfwithadirtyneedleorinfectedloadofsemen-zine.
 
2013-02-18 08:39:33 AM  
HIV is no big thing anymore, just ask the kids.  One kid at the office was telling me that it's just like taking a few aspirin in the morning except that you don't even have to buy the aspirin.  Bah, kids today don't appreciate a good AIDS scare.
 
2013-02-18 08:46:01 AM  
If I may be the only person on here to express happiness and hope at this discovery... This is great news and I hope this ends up a viable method of treating those with AIDS.  How wonderful.
 
2013-02-18 08:46:04 AM  
Well, AIDS gets a wildly disproportionate amount of funding compared to Cancer, subby, there's a lot more lobby power behind it that shift the allocations even though it doesn't affect anywhere near as many people.  It's also a single disease as opposed to a wide variety of biological failure mechanisms.

So not really surprising that it'd be closer to being solved.
 
2013-02-18 08:52:31 AM  
I liked the idea I read about in a scifi book once.  Some researcher started looking through prison records for people who've had HIV for at least 10 years, but weren't sick.  Her theory was that because HIV causes death (eventually) in 100% of it's hosts it would eventually mutate into something less lethal.  Similar to how in the 1500, syphilis would cause sores to erupt over your whole body, your face would slide off, and you'd be dead within 6 months, but now you can survive a case for decades almost without knowing (although it will still eventually turn your brain to swiss cheese).

Anyway, lo and behold, she found some gay prostitute who not only was not getting sick from his HIV, but most of the people he slept with didn't either.  In fact, some of the people who had already had a different strain got better after having sex with him.  Seems his not-so-bad virus kept the nasty version at bay.

Anyone know if this was ever looked into in real life or if it's complete BS?
 
2013-02-18 09:10:59 AM  
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2013-02-18 09:11:51 AM  

Karac: I liked the idea I read about in a scifi book once.  Some researcher started looking through prison records for people who've had HIV for at least 10 years, but weren't sick.  Her theory was that because HIV causes death (eventually) in 100% of it's hosts it would eventually mutate into something less lethal.  Similar to how in the 1500, syphilis would cause sores to erupt over your whole body, your face would slide off, and you'd be dead within 6 months, but now you can survive a case for decades almost without knowing (although it will still eventually turn your brain to swiss cheese).

Anyway, lo and behold, she found some gay prostitute who not only was not getting sick from his HIV, but most of the people he slept with didn't either.  In fact, some of the people who had already had a different strain got better after having sex with him.  Seems his not-so-bad virus kept the nasty version at bay.

Anyone know if this was ever looked into in real life or if it's complete BS?


While there is evidence that constant exposure to HIV can lead to a temporary immunity, that story you're talking about sounds pretty far-fetched.
 
2013-02-18 09:15:43 AM  
I could deal with a cure for deadly viruses...

Kills two birds with one stone,
1. I won't die from a deadly virus while waiting for them to cure cancer.
2. Gives them more time now to find a cure for cancer.
 
2013-02-18 09:18:07 AM  
I seem to recall studies that suggest a viral cause to many kinds of cancer.
 
2013-02-18 09:22:36 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Karac: I liked the idea I read about in a scifi book once.  Some researcher started looking through prison records for people who've had HIV for at least 10 years, but weren't sick.  Her theory was that because HIV causes death (eventually) in 100% of it's hosts it would eventually mutate into something less lethal.  Similar to how in the 1500, syphilis would cause sores to erupt over your whole body, your face would slide off, and you'd be dead within 6 months, but now you can survive a case for decades almost without knowing (although it will still eventually turn your brain to swiss cheese).

Anyway, lo and behold, she found some gay prostitute who not only was not getting sick from his HIV, but most of the people he slept with didn't either.  In fact, some of the people who had already had a different strain got better after having sex with him.  Seems his not-so-bad virus kept the nasty version at bay.

Anyone know if this was ever looked into in real life or if it's complete BS?

While there is evidence that constant exposure to HIV can lead to a temporary immunity, that story you're talking about sounds pretty far-fetched.


I don't think it'd be that far-fetched.  The switch from the face-melting to the no symptom syphilis I mentioned occurred between when Columbus brought it back from the New World in 1492 and 1546 - just 52 years.  We've got evidence of cases of HIV going back to the 1940's, and it reached epidemic levels in the 80's - 70 and 30 years ago.  With an extra 5 centuries of medical advances we should be able to at least detect if there is a form of HIV which doesn't eradicate a hosts immune system.

The only truly far-fetched part would be to assume that that strain would reverse damage from a different strain.
 
2013-02-18 09:22:41 AM  
It blocks enzymes??  In cells?? My god, that is brilliant! Why didn't we ever look at this before?
 
2013-02-18 09:28:26 AM  

Karac: I liked the idea I read about in a scifi book once.  Some researcher started looking through prison records for people who've had HIV for at least 10 years, but weren't sick.  Her theory was that because HIV causes death (eventually) in 100% of it's hosts it would eventually mutate into something less lethal.  Similar to how in the 1500, syphilis would cause sores to erupt over your whole body, your face would slide off, and you'd be dead within 6 months, but now you can survive a case for decades almost without knowing (although it will still eventually turn your brain to swiss cheese).

Anyway, lo and behold, she found some gay prostitute who not only was not getting sick from his HIV, but most of the people he slept with didn't either.  In fact, some of the people who had already had a different strain got better after having sex with him.  Seems his not-so-bad virus kept the nasty version at bay.

Anyone know if this was ever looked into in real life or if it's complete BS?


A virus reproduces by getting inside your cells and replicating until the cell explodes. A more mutually beneficial experience is unlikely.

Killing the host would be more limiting if AIDS didn't have a lengthy dormant period for it to spread, or if humans weren't so programmed to reproduce that they would do it knowing they could be killing their partner.

If AIDS already has an alarmingly high mutation rate, which is one of the reasons it is so hard to treat, but there are far more effective mutations, such as being transmitted more easily.
 
2013-02-18 09:37:08 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Well, AIDS gets a wildly disproportionate amount of funding compared to Cancer, subby, there's a lot more lobby power behind it that shift the allocations even though it doesn't affect anywhere near as many people.  It's also a single disease as opposed to a wide variety of biological failure mechanisms.

So not really surprising that it'd be closer to being solved.


And AIDS is one of if not the most preventable disease.
 
2013-02-18 10:09:23 AM  
Or, they could just use DRACO
 
2013-02-18 10:28:53 AM  

Mugato: Jim_Callahan: Well, AIDS gets a wildly disproportionate amount of funding compared to Cancer, subby, there's a lot more lobby power behind it that shift the allocations even though it doesn't affect anywhere near as many people.  It's also a single disease as opposed to a wide variety of biological failure mechanisms.

So not really surprising that it'd be closer to being solved.

And AIDS is one of if not the most preventable disease.


Tell that to 25% of Subsaharan Africa
 
2013-02-18 10:32:29 AM  

enochianwolf: Tell that to 25% of Subsaharan Africa


Doesn't mean it isn't easily preventable.
 
2013-02-18 10:36:55 AM  

Mugato: enochianwolf: Tell that to 25% of Subsaharan Africa

Doesn't mean it isn't easily preventable.


No sh*t, you think those of us living with it don't realize that after the fact?
 
2013-02-18 10:57:02 AM  

Mugato: enochianwolf: Tell that to 25% of Subsaharan Africa

Doesn't mean it isn't easily preventable.


There's an idea floating around that part of the world that having sex with a virgin will cure you of your own case of HIV.  That's not exactly 'preventable' from the point of view of the girl.
 
2013-02-18 11:04:14 AM  

Karac: Mugato: enochianwolf: Tell that to 25% of Subsaharan Africa

Doesn't mean it isn't easily preventable.

There's an idea floating around that part of the world that having sex with a virgin will cure you of your own case of HIV.  That's not exactly 'preventable' from the point of view of the girl.


Couple that with one of the largest charity organizations in the region telling them that condoms are an abomination before god ad you have a nice recipe for the hi-5.

Also, just because I saw in on Saturday:

(Hasa Diga Eebowai!)
Here's the bucher, he has AIDS
Here's the teacher, she has AIDS
Here's the doctor, he has AIDS -
Here's my daughter she has A...
...wonderful disposition!
She's all I have left in the world
And if either of you lays a hand on her -
I will give you my AIDS!
 
2013-02-18 11:20:55 AM  

SpdrJay: HIV cures are the vaporware of pharmacology.


They'd be losing customers with cures, so it's not good business.
 
2013-02-18 12:13:47 PM  
Can someone please tell what 'full-blown' AIDS is?    Is there something out there called, 'just sorta AIDS'?
 
2013-02-18 12:22:53 PM  
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2013-02-18 12:24:45 PM  

T.rex: Can someone please tell what 'full-blown' AIDS is?    Is there something out there called, 'just sorta AIDS'?


I get the feeling AIDS acts like a spectrum. It weakens your immune system over time until it effectively shuts it down at the "full blown" stage.
 
2013-02-18 12:34:18 PM  

MightyPez: T.rex: Can someone please tell what 'full-blown' AIDS is?    Is there something out there called, 'just sorta AIDS'?

I get the feeling AIDS acts like a spectrum. It weakens your immune system over time until it effectively shuts it down at the "full blown" stage.


It was a rhetorical question... AIDS is a very specific diagnosis occurring when the t-cell count is below 200 with the presence of an 'opportunistic infection' such as a herpes sore.    There's no wiggle room....   Someone might be walking down the street and appear totally healthy, or they might be on their death bed.... They both have the same 'full-blown' AIDS.
 
2013-02-18 12:38:44 PM  

T.rex: MightyPez: T.rex: Can someone please tell what 'full-blown' AIDS is?    Is there something out there called, 'just sorta AIDS'?

I get the feeling AIDS acts like a spectrum. It weakens your immune system over time until it effectively shuts it down at the "full blown" stage.

It was a rhetorical question... AIDS is a very specific diagnosis occurring when the t-cell count is below 200 with the presence of an 'opportunistic infection' such as a herpes sore.    There's no wiggle room....   Someone might be walking down the street and appear totally healthy, or they might be on their death bed.... They both have the same 'full-blown' AIDS.


So.... you didn't have a question, you just wanted a chance to rail against a widely used idiom?

Look out, "begs the question" you're next!
 
2013-02-18 12:51:35 PM  

MightyPez: T.rex: MightyPez: T.rex: Can someone please tell what 'full-blown' AIDS is?    Is there something out there called, 'just sorta AIDS'?

I get the feeling AIDS acts like a spectrum. It weakens your immune system over time until it effectively shuts it down at the "full blown" stage.

It was a rhetorical question... AIDS is a very specific diagnosis occurring when the t-cell count is below 200 with the presence of an 'opportunistic infection' such as a herpes sore.    There's no wiggle room....   Someone might be walking down the street and appear totally healthy, or they might be on their death bed.... They both have the same 'full-blown' AIDS.

So.... you didn't have a question, you just wanted a chance to rail against a widely used idiom?

Look out, "begs the question" you're next!


I literally saw that coming.
 
2013-02-18 01:49:46 PM  
I love receiving information in the form of bubbles, where every click generates $$ for the submitter.  If you're gonna spread the word about something, you may as well get paid for it.  Even if you're just regurgitating nutritional information about bananas.  Thanks Bubblews!
 
2013-02-18 02:10:38 PM  

Father_Jack: this will instantly be opposed by Right wing groups as being unchristian and promoting Teh Homosex Agenda.


Dirty little homosexuals with their big penises and right Lil bums.
 
2013-02-18 02:45:17 PM  
Every single month there's a new potential cure, or block for HIV...any yet, not a single one ever pans out and you never hear from them again....
It's just about grant money...that's all it is. When the AIDS scare was in full effect everyone was throwing money at the companies to make a cure....then AIDS stopped being so scary...so now these companies are saying "look, a cure is just out of our reach...we're almost there, we just need another trillion dollars..." and we keep falling for it.
We need to face facts...there will NEVER be a vaccine or cure for HIV...It just mutates too often and is too good at hiding in our bodies...

Mark my words, we'll never cure it.
 
2013-02-18 05:36:22 PM  

Wolf892: Every single month there's a new potential cure, or block for HIV...any yet, not a single one ever pans out and you never hear from them again....
It's just about grant money...that's all it is. When the AIDS scare was in full effect everyone was throwing money at the companies to make a cure....then AIDS stopped being so scary...so now these companies are saying "look, a cure is just out of our reach...we're almost there, we just need another trillion dollars..." and we keep falling for it.
We need to face facts...there will NEVER be a vaccine or cure for HIV...It just mutates too often and is too good at hiding in our bodies...

Mark my words, we'll never cure it.


Marked, what do I win from you if they cure it?
/If you say a free case of HIV; I am going to biatch slap you sooooo hard...
 
2013-02-18 07:34:03 PM  
We are sorry. All we have done taken a brand-new disease that caused almost certain, horrible death, and turned it into a chronic disease which can be kept at bay, improving quality and quantity of life for decades. Sometimes with just one pill, once a day.We are sorry that in the past thirty years we have not been able to provide a miraculous and ridiculously cheap cure.Apologetically,Academic Science, Modern Medicine, and Big Pharma
 
2013-02-18 07:39:18 PM  

Dalrint: And by 'treatment' they mean another pill people will have to pay 500 dollars a month for for the rest of her life. Because we don't research cures anymore, just treatments.


My cable, phone, and internet bill is around $150 a month.

I agree, paying more than THREE TIMES that amount to go on living is ridiculously expensive.
 
2013-02-19 01:52:48 AM  

Mugato: enochianwolf: Tell that to 25% of Subsaharan Africa

Doesn't mean it isn't easily preventable.


And so, we live in a truly just world.
 
2013-02-19 07:14:09 AM  

Karac: Anyone know if this was ever looked into in real life or if it's complete BS?


Points for creativity.  There are patients termed "long-term non-progressors" and "elite controllers," people who are HIV+ who either have low or undetectable viral loads, or whose CD4 counts never drop.  Some have wimpy viruses, some have unusual immune responses, but no magic bullets yet.

Pubmed sampling of studies on these phenomena.
 
2013-02-19 12:53:43 PM  
Given that people with HIV have a higher than normal incidence of some cancers I'd say this is also a cure, of sorts, for cancer.
 
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