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(CNN)   The guy who slapped a baby and called it racial slurs has been fired from his job. With previous assaulting a minor mugshot goodness   (cnn.com) divider line 200
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2013-02-18 03:45:49 AM  
i48.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-18 06:40:36 AM  
His company, which initially suspended him, said Sunday that Hundley no longer has his job.

i293.photobucket.com


Good call, AGC.
 
2013-02-18 06:47:04 AM  
Now this guy is going to go design fighter planes for the Confederacy!
 
2013-02-18 07:00:37 AM  
I wonder when he releases a statement where it turns out that he's actually the victim in all of this.
 
2013-02-18 07:42:03 AM  

log_jammin: I wonder when he releases a statement where it turns out that he's actually the victim in all of this.


"I would like to apologize to anyone who may have been offended by my actions.  You see, I come from a different world.  A world where the people know their place in society, a world where a man's worth can be measured by the number of teeth in his head.  A world where I tip the colored boy who bags my groceries a shiny dime; where I may slap my secretary on HER bottom (we won't be having any of those twinky boys handling our messages)."
 
2013-02-18 07:44:11 AM  
Where's this guy from again?

Hayden, Idaho

My surprised face... -_-
 
2013-02-18 08:05:18 AM  
He's lucky the father wasn't there . I would have beaten him to a bloody pulp.
 
2013-02-18 08:08:34 AM  
He ought to cut back on the 4chan.
 
2013-02-18 08:08:41 AM  
I bet they still have to pay out his contract.
 
2013-02-18 08:09:44 AM  
Good.
 
2013-02-18 08:09:59 AM  
fc04.deviantart.net
 
2013-02-18 08:11:09 AM  
They have Sex Offender registries for people who piss in alleys.

There needs to be an Asshat Registry for people like this.
 
2013-02-18 08:11:16 AM  

sithon: He's lucky the father wasn't there . I would have beaten him to a bloody pulp.


So the baby gets slapped and then you beat up the father?
Damn, that's cold.
 
2013-02-18 08:11:21 AM  
If the baby had been armed, this never would have happened.
 
Pav
2013-02-18 08:11:30 AM  
Where are all the farkers who claim crying babies on a plane should be shot?  How they paid their airfare and are entitled to a noise free plane ride?  Must be to early in the thread.  I'm sure they will show their self centered faces at some point.
 
2013-02-18 08:12:17 AM  
There's nothing in that article to indicate his previous assault charge involved a minor.
 
2013-02-18 08:15:25 AM  
moral of the story: if you're white, you should restrain yourself and only slap white babies in the face.
 
2013-02-18 08:16:14 AM  

swahnhennessy: There's nothing in that article to indicate his previous assault charge involved a minor.


Babies are typically minors.
 
2013-02-18 08:16:42 AM  
I can foresee his future job as a baby slapper for hire.

You want a smooth flight? Call him.
 
2013-02-18 08:17:05 AM  

Pav: Where are all the farkers who claim crying babies on a plane should be shot?  How they paid their airfare and are entitled to a noise free plane ride?  Must be to early in the thread.  I'm sure they will show their self centered faces at some point.


This guy said it best, around the 2:40 mark.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=ZcUstppH7Ek&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3 D ZcUstppH7Ek
 
2013-02-18 08:18:20 AM  

sithon: He's lucky the father wasn't there . I would have beaten him to a bloody pulp.


Apparently the father is black.
 
2013-02-18 08:18:44 AM  
I don't approve of his actions, but I loved him in The 'Burbs.

stuhayes2010: Babies are typically minors.


"Previous charge" typically implies "not the current charge".
 
2013-02-18 08:20:04 AM  

PainInTheASP: "I would like to apologize to anyone who may have been offended by my actions.  You see, I come from a different world.  A world where the people know their place in society, a world where a man's worth can be measured by the number of teeth in his head.  A world where I tip the colored boy who bags my groceries a shiny dime; where I may slap my secretary on HER bottom (we won't be having any of those twinky boys handling our messages)."


There is no way that guy has any teeth.
 
2013-02-18 08:20:24 AM  
Looks like a nice place to work. Keep an eye on this page this page for upcoming opportunities.
 
2013-02-18 08:21:54 AM  
I keep hearing the Debbie Downer trombone every time I look.
 
2013-02-18 08:22:12 AM  

SpdrJay: They have Sex Offender registries for people who piss in alleys.

There needs to be an Asshat Registry for people like this.



I thought that's what Total Fark was.
 
2013-02-18 08:22:29 AM  

special20: sithon: He's lucky the father wasn't there . I would have beaten him to a bloody pulp.

Apparently the father is black.


Father is white.  The baby is black.  The baby was adopted by a white couple as an accessory for the mom's designer hand bags.
 
2013-02-18 08:22:47 AM  
Some company fired this dude because he supposedly slapped a baby on a plane?

Note to self: be an asshole in private from now on!
 
2013-02-18 08:23:41 AM  

stuhayes2010: swahnhennessy: There's nothing in that article to indicate his previous assault charge involved a minor.

Babies are typically minors.


In China they are miners.
 
2013-02-18 08:24:51 AM  
 
2013-02-18 08:24:59 AM  

quatchi: Where's this guy from again?

Hayden, Idaho

My surprised face... -_-


If this goes to trial in idaho that baby is going to spend a long time in jail.
 
2013-02-18 08:25:22 AM  
They showed the father on TV this morning and he was a white guy. How did two white people make that baby??
 
2013-02-18 08:25:37 AM  
Enough is enough! I have had it with these motherfarking attractive and successful African American babies on this motherfarking plane!
 
2013-02-18 08:25:43 AM  
Fired? How is he supposed to keep his pimp hand strong?
 
2013-02-18 08:26:16 AM  

stuhayes2010: swahnhennessy: There's nothing in that article to indicate his previous assault charge involved a minor.

Babies are typically minors.


Which is why alway I ask for an I.D. before handing them a whiskey bottle.
 
2013-02-18 08:26:45 AM  
Keep your little crumb snatchers under control and this doesn't happen.
 
2013-02-18 08:27:08 AM  

JaCiNto: They showed the father on TV this morning and he was a white guy. How did two white people make that baby??


The father is black from the waist down. If you know what I mean. And I think you do.
 
2013-02-18 08:27:41 AM  
You see, if the older generation weren't so afraid of the technologies...he would have had an iSomething with headphones and just pushed them in his ears until they touched.

The only way to fly in blissful 'silence' is to create your own.
 
2013-02-18 08:27:48 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Enough is enough! I have had it with these motherfarking attractive and successful African American babies on this motherfarking plane!


I came here to say I've had it with these monkey-fighting babies on this Monday-to-Friday airplane, but you pretty much beat me to it.

/best tv-edit ever!
 
2013-02-18 08:28:08 AM  

Snarfangel: JaCiNto: They showed the father on TV this morning and he was a white guy. How did two white people make that baby??

The father is black from the waist down. If you know what I mean. And I think you do.


The dude doesn't understand the concept of adoption, so you might have to be more specific.
 
2013-02-18 08:29:26 AM  
maybe the child NEEDED to be slapped. Anybody think of THAT?
 
2013-02-18 08:30:57 AM  

GalFriday: special20: sithon: He's lucky the father wasn't there . I would have beaten him to a bloody pulp.

Apparently the father is black.

Father is white.  The baby is black.  The baby was adopted by a white couple as an accessory for the mom's designer hand bags.


Either adopted or Mommy and "Daddy" have an alternative lifestyle.
 
2013-02-18 08:31:02 AM  

You Are All Sheep: You see, if the older generation weren't so afraid of the technologies...he would have had an iSomething with headphones and just pushed them in his ears until they touched.

You want him to put icecream in his ears? Man, that's cold.

 
2013-02-18 08:31:19 AM  

YodaBlues: Snarfangel: JaCiNto: They showed the father on TV this morning and he was a white guy. How did two white people make that baby??

The father is black from the waist down. If you know what I mean. And I think you do.

The dude doesn't understand the concept of adoption, so you might have to be more specific.


I was thinking more along the lines of "Me, Myself, and Irene" type situation..
 
2013-02-18 08:33:53 AM  
Child Slapped.
Yes, let's all act like this is the crime of the century.
 
2013-02-18 08:35:13 AM  

JaCiNto: They showed the father on TV this morning and he was a white guy. How did two white people make that baby??


She keeps telling her husband the baby looks just like him. His friends look the other way and smirk
 
2013-02-18 08:35:57 AM  
To be sure, as a child, the slapper had been slapped himself.
 
2013-02-18 08:37:44 AM  
I wish for once I could read the mind of someone who thinks it's okay to call someone a racial slur on a public flight during a time when the President is black and it's been decades since the civil rights protest. And the guy was a business executive to boot.

What was he thinking, "And I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for these mulatto babies!"
 
2013-02-18 08:38:36 AM  
I just cannot bring myself to feel outraged over any part of this story

It's good that the racist was fired. Shows that we as a society will shun such ignorant idiots. However there is a part of society that feels its not the parents responsibility to teach their children how to act in public. If you. Cannot control your child then don't bring them on a plane
 
2013-02-18 08:39:12 AM  
Note ro self:  Slap a baby = federal crime with minimum 1 year prison
                      Get someone to slap my baby = Payday in court in a few months

Got it

/has no babies
 
2013-02-18 08:42:44 AM  

Mister Buttons: /has no babies


Thank FSM for small favors.
 
2013-02-18 08:42:56 AM  
What an asshole.
 
2013-02-18 08:43:10 AM  

log_jammin: I wonder when he releases a statement where it turns out that he's actually the victim in all of this.


This is an egregious violation of his Constitutional rights: the First Amendment gives him the Freedom of Speech to call babies the N-word, should he feel it necessary; the drunken slap is covered by the Second Amendment, which grants him the right to beer arms.

/IANAL
 
2013-02-18 08:43:31 AM  
While Idaho has an at-will employment law, they apparently also have "recognized a breach of an implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing as an exception to at-will employment". Couldn't he reasonably argue that presuming him guilty prior to trial breaches that implied covenant?


Wikipedia on this subject
 
2013-02-18 08:44:32 AM  
Quick! Someone get this man a Fox talk show gig, Stat!
 
2013-02-18 08:44:51 AM  

JaCiNto: YodaBlues: Snarfangel: JaCiNto: They showed the father on TV this morning and he was a white guy. How did two white people make that baby??

The father is black from the waist down. If you know what I mean. And I think you do.

The dude doesn't understand the concept of adoption, so you might have to be more specific.

I was thinking more along the lines of "Me, Myself, and Irene" type situation..


HAH! Wow, I totally missed that. Good show old chap.
 
2013-02-18 08:45:46 AM  

log_jammin: I wonder when he releases a statement where it turns out that he's actually the victim in all of this.


links below article foreshadow this inevitability;

Air rage: Passengers 'quicker to snap'
Kid-free 'Quiet Zones' launched on airline
 
2013-02-18 08:46:20 AM  
Doppelganger Disapproval:
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They fired him for that?!
 
2013-02-18 08:48:50 AM  
 
2013-02-18 08:49:46 AM  

Warlordtrooper: I just cannot bring myself to feel outraged over any part of this story

It's good that the racist was fired. Shows that we as a society will shun such ignorant idiots. However there is a part of society that feels its not the parents responsibility to teach their children how to act in public. If you. Cannot control your child then don't bring them on a plane

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It sounds like the child behaved himself just fine throughout the flight, but on descent, was having issues with the altitude change. What do you want the mother to do with a baby who's likely in pain? It's a baby. They don't yet understand directions, and even still, it's reacting to pain, not acting out. What, exactly do you propose that the kid's mother should have done about it. In the final leg of a flight, when you're supposed to be seated, in your seat belt, etc.
 
2013-02-18 08:50:51 AM  

YouPeopleAreCrazy: From the Daily Fail:
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Mom and dad
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www.hotflick.net
 
2013-02-18 08:53:46 AM  

SpdrJay: They have Sex Offender registries for people who piss in alleys.

There needs to be an Asshat Registry for people like this.


Love all the snarky political comments. Seriously, who does not know, today, that this would be inappropriate behavior under any circumstances? Even if the guy was a hard-core racist, it is simply beyond belief that he would not be able to control his emotional reactions to annoyance. Hey, Fark Experts, the guy sounds (and looks) bi-polar. (Why yes, there IS very often a certain "look" to many people that have bi-polar issues. Also schizophrenia. A lack of "cohesiveness" in the face.) He needs medication. Seriously, not snark.
 
2013-02-18 09:01:51 AM  
Kids have never bothered me on flights...I can ignore crying with some headphones. Adults, however, are another story. I sat next to a paranoid drug addict once who suddenly screamed at my friend and me for talking before the plane ever took off. Then she spaced out for a while before suddenly questioning my friend about his sex life. Another time, I had to spend a late flight next to two very drunk women who couldn't shut up, and kept knocking into me or getting stuff on me. So yeah, crying kids have nothing on idiot adults.

/I would have punched the s%^# out of that man if he had touched my kid.
 
2013-02-18 09:04:40 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: SpdrJay: They have Sex Offender registries for people who piss in alleys.

There needs to be an Asshat Registry for people like this.

Love all the snarky political comments. Seriously, who does not know, today, that this would be inappropriate behavior under any circumstances? Even if the guy was a hard-core racist, it is simply beyond belief that he would not be able to control his emotional reactions to annoyance. Hey, Fark Experts, the guy sounds (and looks) bi-polar. (Why yes, there IS very often a certain "look" to many people that have bi-polar issues. Also schizophrenia. A lack of "cohesiveness" in the face.) He needs medication. Seriously, not snark.


Boy did he ever come to the wrong place.
 
2013-02-18 09:12:21 AM  
I hate Illinois Nazis...

i48.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-18 09:15:18 AM  
Really? Have you guys not heard of adoption?
 
2013-02-18 09:16:03 AM  
Why can't people like this man end up on the no fly list?
 
2013-02-18 09:19:31 AM  
warehousestories.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-18 09:24:10 AM  

Pav: Where are all the farkers who claim crying babies on a plane should be shot?  How they paid their airfare and are entitled to a noise free plane ride?  Must be to early in the thread.  I'm sure they will show their self centered faces at some point.


The guy should have shot the kid instead of slapping him.

Happy now?

/I heard that the kid was adopted.
 
2013-02-18 09:26:29 AM  

doubled99: Child Slapped.
Yes, let's all act like this is the crime of the century.


Not to go all internet tough guy, but had this dude slapped my kid, it very well could have been the crime of the century. Watching your kid get messed with will cause most parents to hulk out with a quickness.

I once watched a guy shove a 5 year old at a football game because the kid was dancing over a touchdown scored by the opposing team. The kid's mom, who was probably 5'2" and 120 lbs, rearranged that man's face. It reminded me a lot of that scene from a Christmas Story.
 
2013-02-18 09:29:40 AM  
Prosecutor:  This violent racist viciously attacked a defensive infant and needs to be severely fined and punished.

Defense:  It was a screaming baby on a plane.

Jury:  Hmmmm . . . . can we return a verdict of "justifiable asshattery?"  He picks up trash for several weekends and babies are banned from all flights.

Judge:  I'll allow it.
 
2013-02-18 09:30:48 AM  
i50.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-18 09:30:55 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: Really? Have you guys not heard of adoption?


==============

That, or "dad" is the very definition of pwned.

Seriously, wanna bet this "millionaire job creator"  has been a very unpleasant kind of guy for most of his life?   Wanna bet the company he worked for kept him on primarily because he's an alpha-Galt ass kicker?  Here:s my take:  If this hadn't made the news, Slappy and his bosses would all be having a good laugh about it over 20 year old scotch and cuban cigars.

BTW, wanna bet this guy is a Republican?  A Republican who hates government?  Yup, a government hating Republican who was receiving a fat pay check from company that does all it's business with the government. In other words this is your typical Romney voter.
 
2013-02-18 09:31:57 AM  
Maybe he should have claimed he thought it was a chicken.
 
2013-02-18 09:35:56 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-18 09:37:46 AM  

SpdrJay: There needs to be an Asshat Registry for people like this.


A tattoo on their forehead or something.

Beware!
I enjoy assaulting people.
Including 19 month on N-word babbys.


Or whatever type of aggravated assault, such as: Including my wife; Including strangers on the street; Including blankety blank blank.
 
2013-02-18 09:38:30 AM  
He was able to get off the plane unscathed? Not if I would have been sitting there and that was my kid.
 
2013-02-18 09:44:04 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: SpdrJay: They have Sex Offender registries for people who piss in alleys.

There needs to be an Asshat Registry for people like this.

Love all the snarky political comments. Seriously, who does not know, today, that this would be inappropriate behavior under any circumstances? Even if the guy was a hard-core racist, it is simply beyond belief that he would not be able to control his emotional reactions to annoyance. Hey, Fark Experts, the guy sounds (and looks) bi-polar. (Why yes, there IS very often a certain "look" to many people that have bi-polar issues. Also schizophrenia. A lack of "cohesiveness" in the face.) He needs medication. Seriously, not snark.


You really should go fark yourself. Stick your self-appointed PhD in Psychiatry right in your bunghole, dipshiat. I'm not defending the old man on the plane. Understand?
 
2013-02-18 09:45:12 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: SpdrJay: They have Sex Offender registries for people who piss in alleys.

There needs to be an Asshat Registry for people like this.

Love all the snarky political comments. Seriously, who does not know, today, that this would be inappropriate behavior under any circumstances? Even if the guy was a hard-core racist, it is simply beyond belief that he would not be able to control his emotional reactions to annoyance. Hey, Fark Experts, the guy sounds (and looks) bi-polar. (Why yes, there IS very often a certain "look" to many people that have bi-polar issues. Also schizophrenia. A lack of "cohesiveness" in the face.) He needs medication. Seriously, not snark.


Jesus christ, you farking internet armchair psychiatrists kill me.  Well, Doctor, do tell us how our delicate flower waited until he was farking 60 years old to manifest his symptoms of schizophrenia, I would certainly love to hear the convoluted story behind that one. Tell us about "the look" (that just happens to mirror the typical "oh shiat, my drunk shennanigans are catching up with me" look). Not every farking bad behavior is a mental disorder. If you think a 60 year old man who has been drinking is more likely demonstrating new onset schizophrenia than typical drunken asshole behavior, then no. Just stop. Quit farking playing internet psychiatrist. He was a racist, drunken asshole. Deal with it and quit labeling it.
 
2013-02-18 09:46:52 AM  

bborchar: I sat next to a paranoid drug addict once who suddenly screamed at my friend and me for talking before the plane ever took off. Then she spaced out for a while before suddenly questioning my friend about his sex life.


LOL sounds like my girlfriend.
 
2013-02-18 09:48:04 AM  
Never EVER slap a crying baby.  You're supposed to shake them.
 
2013-02-18 09:53:50 AM  
This guy is a hero. Control your obnoxious loud kid . Mom should have slapped also. As for the racist remark that probally was a heat of the moment thing.

My mom had a wooden spoon in her purse for misbehaving kids. More should.
 
2013-02-18 09:54:14 AM  
I don't like to make assumptions about drunken, racist, abusive, violent people, but fortunately the facts alone make him seem terrible enough.

About the mother, though: I can only imagine the two reasons that she didn't pound this clown's face is because (1) she was consoling her baby and (2) because she was in shock.  Had he pulled that on a black woman a little less shocked at seeing racism thrown her way, I doubt he'd have been so pretty for his mugshot.
 
2013-02-18 09:55:14 AM  
Bender The Offender:

. He was a racist, drunken asshole. Deal with it and quit labeling it.

Remember: drinking doesnt make you an asshole. It just removes your ability to hide it.

Its amazing what happens when you remove the filter from somebody's brain with Alcohol... It allows their true colors to shine through.
 
2013-02-18 09:55:36 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: This guy is a hero. Control your obnoxious loud kid . Mom should have slapped also. As for the racist remark that probally was a heat of the moment thing.

My mom had a wooden spoon in her purse for misbehaving kids. More should.




Mom should have been slapped also
 
2013-02-18 10:00:51 AM  

Warlordtrooper: I just cannot bring myself to feel outraged over any part of this story

It's good that the racist was fired. Shows that we as a society will shun such ignorant idiots. However there is a part of society that feels its not the parents responsibility to teach their children how to act in public. If you. Cannot control your child then don't bring them on a plane


You are a total idiot.  There is no mitigating circumstance for you.  Total.  Otherwise, you would have read the article and been aware of pressure differential during descents that sometimes leads to excruciating pain for children and adults.  But, we know that you're excruciating pain comes from your congenital stupidity.  Good luck with that.
 
2013-02-18 10:01:06 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Mom should have been slapped also


Responding to your own alt?  That is some rookie trolling.
 
2013-02-18 10:01:57 AM  

Tat'dGreaser: Really? Have you guys not heard of adoption?


And what's the deal with sugar-free candy? How can there be candy...without sugar?
 
2013-02-18 10:02:40 AM  
Am I the only one who still wants to hear from someone other than the mother and someone who claims he saw it from six rows in front that this really happened, before crucifying the guy? Given the way they stuff people in like sardines, there has to have been someone else who can corroborate it.
 
2013-02-18 10:03:05 AM  

factoryconnection: Mid_mo_mad_man: Mom should have been slapped also

Responding to your own alt?  That is some rookie trolling.




Actually I was fixing an error
 
2013-02-18 10:04:50 AM  
I just cannot bring myself to feel outraged over any part of this story

It's good that the racist was fired. Shows that we as a society will shun such ignorant idiots. However there is a part of society that feels its not the parents responsibility to teach their children how to act in public. If you. Cannot control your child then don't bring them on a plane

You are a total idiot.  There is no mitigating circumstance for you.  Total.  Otherwise, you would have read the article and been aware of pressure differential during descents that sometimes leads to excruciating pain for children and adults.  But, we know that you're excruciating pain comes from your congenital stupidity.  Good luck with that.


God, what a whiny little biatch you are
 
2013-02-18 10:06:54 AM  
i48.tinypic.com

Every time I see his mugshot I hear the sad trombone sound.
 
2013-02-18 10:07:44 AM  

Magnus: Warlordtrooper: I just cannot bring myself to feel outraged over any part of this story

It's good that the racist was fired. Shows that we as a society will shun such ignorant idiots. However there is a part of society that feels its not the parents responsibility to teach their children how to act in public. If you. Cannot control your child then don't bring them on a plane

You are a total idiot.  There is no mitigating circumstance for you.  Total.  Otherwise, you would have read the article and been aware of pressure differential during descents that sometimes leads to excruciating pain for children and adults.  But, we know that you're excruciating pain comes from your congenital stupidity.  Good luck with that.


yeah yeah....your you're   caught myself.  I'm an idiot, too.  At least I'm not a douchebag idiot.
 
2013-02-18 10:08:35 AM  

Warlordtrooper: I just cannot bring myself to feel outraged over any part of this story

It's good that the racist was fired. Shows that we as a society will shun such ignorant idiots. However there is a part of society that feels its not the parents responsibility to teach their children how to act in public. If you. Cannot control your child then don't bring them on a plane


19 month old babies cannot control the pressure in their ears the same way older children can. This is a fact of life. If you can't handle a few minutes of crying at the end of a flight, perhaps it is YOU that shouldn't be flying, asshole.
 
2013-02-18 10:09:34 AM  

KickerOfElvis: moral of the story: if you're white, you should restrain yourself and only slap white babies in the face.

are already guilty of something offensive like serial muder, pedophilia or racism. Now this guy's only career choice is politician or car salesman.
 
2013-02-18 10:18:39 AM  

JaCiNto: They showed the father on TV this morning and he was a white guy. How did two white people make that baby??


The adopted the toddler.
 
2013-02-18 10:19:30 AM  

JaCiNto: They showed the father on TV this morning and he was a white guy. How did two white people make that baby??


Wow, it's almost like people can choose to raise children that they aren't the birth parents of.  Shocking!

/Adopted
 
2013-02-18 10:19:39 AM  

doubled99: I just cannot bring myself to feel outraged over any part of this story

It's good that the racist was fired. Shows that we as a society will shun such ignorant idiots. However there is a part of society that feels its not the parents responsibility to teach their children how to act in public. If you. Cannot control your child then don't bring them on a plane

You are a total idiot.  There is no mitigating circumstance for you.  Total.  Otherwise, you would have read the article and been aware of pressure differential during descents that sometimes leads to excruciating pain for children and adults.  But, we know that you're excruciating pain comes from your congenital stupidity.  Good luck with that.

God, what a whiny little biatch you are


Ha!  Riiiiight.   Move along, douchebag.  Go defend idiots elsewhere.
 
2013-02-18 10:21:18 AM  

Two16: [warehousestories.files.wordpress.com image 260x359]


I also love when people post that picture, because all's that it really shows is that you're a farking moron.
 
2013-02-18 10:22:51 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: JaCiNto: They showed the father on TV this morning and he was a white guy. How did two white people make that baby??

The adopted the toddler.


OK, how come rain makes my car even dirtier? YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN THAT
 
2013-02-18 10:35:45 AM  

GalFriday: special20: sithon: He's lucky the father wasn't there . I would have beaten him to a bloody pulp.

Apparently the father is black.

Father is white.  The baby is black.  The baby was adopted by a white couple as an accessory for the mom's designer hand bags.


Babies of color work better with designer accessories than white kids do. Who wants to be accused of wearing white after Labor Day? A child of color will always be fashionable.
 
2013-02-18 10:42:40 AM  

skinink: I wish for once I could read the mind of someone who thinks it's okay to call someone a racial slur on a public flight during a time when the President is black and it's been decades since the civil rights protest. And the guy was a business executive to boot.

What was he thinking, "And I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for these mulatto babies!"


The late sixties and early seventies seems to be the only time in this country where bigotry and prejudice were really being torn down. Since that time, and after the assassinations of some of the leadership for those causes pushing for equality, the racism has just been better concealed. The current manifestation of the most racially and economically bigoted movement that we have today is referred to as "The Tea Party", however, no assassinations of that group's leadership are expected to accomplish anything.
 
2013-02-18 10:44:15 AM  
On the one hand, I want to think this guy is the exception and somehow transported to our time from the past

On the other hand I have friends in the South and visit there often and see that in many ways nothing has changed. Same in the Midwest actually.
 
2013-02-18 10:48:50 AM  

Pav: Where are all the farkers who claim crying babies on a plane should be shot?  How they paid their airfare and are entitled to a noise free plane ride?  Must be to early in the thread.  I'm sure they will show their self centered faces at some point.


I think they're off plotting the demise of the self centered farkers who think that having reproduced is an achievement of some kind and that their precious snowflakes are entitled to disturb everyone within a 12' radius in a confined area.
 
2013-02-18 10:49:41 AM  

Fissile: Seriously, wanna bet this "millionaire job creator" has been a very unpleasant kind of guy for most of his life? Wanna bet the company he worked for kept him on primarily because he's an alpha-Galt ass kicker? Here:s my take: If this hadn't made the news, Slappy and his bosses would all be having a good laugh about it over 20 year old scotch and cuban cigars.


This. No way you can rise to an executive position without someone learning about your bigotry. He was fired for leaving his name and his employment history on the same internet that pointed out that time when he got drunk and punched a baby after calling it a horrible name.

Also, and this is in no way a defence for a racist dickbag who hits infants, but since when is it the employer's place to punish an employee for something he allegedly did? He's not a spokesman. It's not like he did it while dressed up as their mascot on national TV in the middle of the Don't Punch Babies Day Parade, or announced "On behalf of AGC Aerospace and Defense, I demand you shut that attractive and successful African-American baby up with the power of my fist and our innovative engineering!"

If someone asks "How can you keep employing this jerk?", the company should answer "He's a good whatever-he-does and we don't pay him to talk, he has the right to believe whatever odious crap he wants and the first time he even looks at at one of our thousands of diverse employees with an eye askance we're going to hoof him out of an eleventh floor window. Our code of ethics doesn't presume to tell our valued employees what they can do, say or think on their private time." Firing someone they almost certainly knew was a bigoted jerkoff for being a bigoted jerkoff is a two-faced PR move and has nothing to do with protecting their values and ethics.
 
2013-02-18 10:51:40 AM  
He *should* be fired from a cannon. Into the Sun, or a brick wall.
 
2013-02-18 10:51:57 AM  

AndreMA: Pav: Where are all the farkers who claim crying babies on a plane should be shot?  How they paid their airfare and are entitled to a noise free plane ride?  Must be to early in the thread.  I'm sure they will show their self centered faces at some point.

I think they're off plotting the demise of the self centered farkers who think that having reproduced is an achievement of some kind and that their precious snowflakes are entitled to disturb everyone within a 12' radius in a confined area.


The knowledge that the survivors of that war will be the ones responsible for changing their dressings and removing poop from their lower bodily areas in a timely fashion has not yet reached these people.
 
2013-02-18 10:54:49 AM  
He's 60.
You think this is the first time?
He's probably been getting away with crap like this for 50 years.
 
2013-02-18 10:55:38 AM  

Flakeloaf: Fissile: Seriously, wanna bet this "millionaire job creator" has been a very unpleasant kind of guy for most of his life? Wanna bet the company he worked for kept him on primarily because he's an alpha-Galt ass kicker? Here:s my take: If this hadn't made the news, Slappy and his bosses would all be having a good laugh about it over 20 year old scotch and cuban cigars.

This. No way you can rise to an executive position without someone learning about your bigotry. He was fired for leaving his name and his employment history on the same internet that pointed out that time when he got drunk and punched a baby after calling it a horrible name.

Also, and this is in no way a defence for a racist dickbag who hits infants, but since when is it the employer's place to punish an employee for something he allegedly did? He's not a spokesman. It's not like he did it while dressed up as their mascot on national TV in the middle of the Don't Punch Babies Day Parade, or announced "On behalf of AGC Aerospace and Defense, I demand you shut that attractive and successful African-American baby up with the power of my fist and our innovative engineering!"

If someone asks "How can you keep employing this jerk?", the company should answer "He's a good whatever-he-does and we don't pay him to talk, he has the right to believe whatever odious crap he wants and the first time he even looks at at one of our thousands of diverse employees with an eye askance we're going to hoof him out of an eleventh floor window. Our code of ethics doesn't presume to tell our valued employees what they can do, say or think on their private time." Firing someone they almost certainly knew was a bigoted jerkoff for being a bigoted jerkoff is a two-faced PR move and has nothing to do with protecting their values and ethics.


ha - that's cute -  you think corporations have values & ethics.
 
2013-02-18 10:56:40 AM  

0Icky0: sithon: He's lucky the father wasn't there . I would have beaten him to a bloody pulp.

So the baby gets slapped and then you beat up the father?
Damn, that's cold.


Wait, he may have been saying that he IS the father?
 
2013-02-18 10:59:04 AM  

Flakeloaf: AndreMA: Pav: Where are all the farkers who claim crying babies on a plane should be shot?  How they paid their airfare and are entitled to a noise free plane ride?  Must be to early in the thread.  I'm sure they will show their self centered faces at some point.

I think they're off plotting the demise of the self centered farkers who think that having reproduced is an achievement of some kind and that their precious snowflakes are entitled to disturb everyone within a 12' radius in a confined area.

The knowledge that the survivors of that war will be the ones responsible for changing their dressings and removing poop from their lower bodily areas in a timely fashion has not yet reached these people.


I think the majority that aren't self centered (or the mature offspring of self centered parents) -- who would be non-combatants -- would be the ones more likely to go into nursing or related fields.
 
2013-02-18 11:00:41 AM  
Jeez, you assault one toddler, and all of a sudden, you're a bad guy...

Man, the pussies nowadays who think that NOT assaulting toddlers is OK. Assaulting toddlers is what made this country great.
 
2013-02-18 11:01:10 AM  

Bender The Offender: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: SpdrJay: They have Sex Offender registries for people who piss in alleys.

There needs to be an Asshat Registry for people like this.

Love all the snarky political comments. Seriously, who does not know, today, that this would be inappropriate behavior under any circumstances? Even if the guy was a hard-core racist, it is simply beyond belief that he would not be able to control his emotional reactions to annoyance. Hey, Fark Experts, the guy sounds (and looks) bi-polar. (Why yes, there IS very often a certain "look" to many people that have bi-polar issues. Also schizophrenia. A lack of "cohesiveness" in the face.) He needs medication. Seriously, not snark.

Jesus christ, you farking internet armchair psychiatrists kill me.  Well, Doctor, do tell us how our delicate flower waited until he was farking 60 years old to manifest his symptoms of schizophrenia, I would certainly love to hear the convoluted story behind that one. Tell us about "the look" (that just happens to mirror the typical "oh shiat, my drunk shennanigans are catching up with me" look). Not every farking bad behavior is a mental disorder. If you think a 60 year old man who has been drinking is more likely demonstrating new onset schizophrenia than typical drunken asshole behavior, then no. Just stop. Quit farking playing internet psychiatrist. He was a racist, drunken asshole. Deal with it and quit labeling it.


Having the good fortune to witness someone succumbing to newly manifested schizophrenia symptoms, and watching someone waiting out his 20s while hoping the family time bomb didn't strike, godDAMMIT THIS.  What a amazingly wretched and strained grasping at straws.  And I have friends who are bipolar as well, and no, you can't tell by f--king looking at them.

He's a racist asshole. I've known kind racists (genuinely sweet older man but who still said things like "I don't like Obama, but I do have black friends..."), and equal opportunity assholes.  Both still suck, but not as much as racist assholes suck.
 
2013-02-18 11:01:33 AM  

SpdrJay: They have Sex Offender registries for people who piss in alleys.

There needs to be an Asshat Registry for people like this.


It's called the Hayden Phone Directory

/anything north of McCall, excepting Moscow, is a shiat stain upon life
 
2013-02-18 11:04:33 AM  

sithon: He's lucky the father wasn't there . I would have beaten him to a bloody pulp.


How about we replace the frail 60 year old with this guy...

local.content.compendiumblog.com

Now what do you do?
 
2013-02-18 11:08:55 AM  
I heard that a priest sitting nearby suggested that she give that man a piece of her mind.
 
2013-02-18 11:09:04 AM  

Source4leko: Two16: [warehousestories.files.wordpress.com image 260x359]

I also love when people post that picture, because all's that it really shows is that you're a farking moron.

 
2013-02-18 11:16:31 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: Now what do you do?


I'd ask what his boyfriend thinks about the steroid-induced testicular atrophy.
 
2013-02-18 11:17:18 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: Maybe he should have claimed he thought it was a chicken.


Given that he's a likely republican (mid-western defense contractor exec.), they wouldn't believe that he thought it was a chicken unless he farked it.
 
2013-02-18 11:22:43 AM  
Y'know, we really shouldn't be applauding companies for firing people based on accusations.  Wouldn't kill them to wait for a conviction.
 
2013-02-18 11:24:00 AM  

special20: The current manifestation of the most racially and economically bigoted movement that we have today is referred to as "The Tea Party".


I'm not teatarded, but I'd like to point out that the Democratic party is in fact the most racially and economically bigoted political party of all time.  They've done more to subjugate black people than any other group in history, and still do it to this day.  You couldn't come up with a better plan to tear people down than they use on minorities.
 
2013-02-18 11:25:13 AM  

Pav: Where are all the farkers who claim crying babies on a plane should be shot?  How they paid their airfare and are entitled to a noise free plane ride?  Must be to early in the thread.  I'm sure they will show their self centered faces at some point.


Well the difference here is that after the guy slapped the baby, it started crying even louder.  Doing it wrong.
 
2013-02-18 11:26:56 AM  

serial_crusher: Y'know, we really shouldn't be applauding companies for firing people based on accusations.  Wouldn't kill them to wait for a conviction.


But I'm angry now!
 
2013-02-18 11:30:15 AM  
Did he do it?

Or did she just say he did it?
 
2013-02-18 11:31:49 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: sithon: He's lucky the father wasn't there . I would have beaten him to a bloody pulp.

How about we replace the frail 60 year old with this guy...

[local.content.compendiumblog.com image 457x512]

Now what do you do?


hit hit once and then run away?  Those chicken legs would never keep up, and eventually he'd lose balance and topple over.
 
2013-02-18 11:35:28 AM  

Pav: Where are all the farkers who claim crying babies on a plane should be shot?  How they paid their airfare and are entitled to a noise free plane ride?  Must be to early in the thread.  I'm sure they will show their self centered faces at some point.


Babies on planes drive me bonkers but I wear earplugs and try to understand that the pressure hurts their ears.  My parents drove every where to visit family so others wouldn't have to deal with us trapped in a cylinder  if only most people were so considerate.
 
2013-02-18 11:38:01 AM  
" they believe Hundley should be punished beyond the loss of his job and possible one-year federal prison sentence."

Hmmm... no-fly list or TSA's mandatory strip-search list?
 
2013-02-18 11:42:27 AM  
Maybe the baby was being a dick?
 
2013-02-18 11:46:19 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-18 11:46:58 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: SpdrJay: They have Sex Offender registries for people who piss in alleys.

There needs to be an Asshat Registry for people like this.

Love all the snarky political comments. Seriously, who does not know, today, that this would be inappropriate behavior under any circumstances? Even if the guy was a hard-core racist, it is simply beyond belief that he would not be able to control his emotional reactions to annoyance. Hey, Fark Experts, the guy sounds (and looks) bi-polar. (Why yes, there IS very often a certain "look" to many people that have bi-polar issues. Also schizophrenia. A lack of "cohesiveness" in the face.) He needs medication. Seriously, not snark.


Dime to dollar, given his relatively peaceful adulthood and more recent descent into bad behavior, I'd wager he's got early onset dementia or something. Jail won't fix his problem, but court ordered psych visits may go a long way.
 
2013-02-18 11:50:24 AM  

PainInTheASP: log_jammin: I wonder when he releases a statement where it turns out that he's actually the victim in all of this.

"I would like to apologize to anyone who may have been offended by my actions.  You see, I come from a different world.  A world where the people know their place in society, a world where a man's worth can be measured by the number of teeth in his head.  A world where I tip the colored boy who bags my groceries a shiny dime; where I may slap my secretary on HER bottom (we won't be having any of those twinky boys handling our messages)."


Do you remember a time when chocolate chips came fresh from the oven? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Do you remember a time when women couldn't vote and certain people weren't allowed on golf courses? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
 
2013-02-18 11:52:17 AM  

Greek: Warlordtrooper: I just cannot bring myself to feel outraged over any part of this story

It's good that the racist was fired. Shows that we as a society will shun such ignorant idiots. However there is a part of society that feels its not the parents responsibility to teach their children how to act in public. If you. Cannot control your child then don't bring them on a plane
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It sounds like the child behaved himself just fine throughout the flight, but on descent, was having issues with the altitude change. What do you want the mother to do with a baby who's likely in pain? It's a baby. They don't yet understand directions, and even still, it's reacting to pain, not acting out. What, exactly do you propose that the kid's mother should have done about it. In the final leg of a flight, when you're supposed to be seated, in your seat belt, etc.


www.nobeliefs.com
 
2013-02-18 11:55:25 AM  

Two16: Source4leko: Two16: [warehousestories.files.wordpress.com image 260x359]

I also love when people post that picture, because all's that it really shows is that you're a farking moron.


Thanks for catching that.  You are still an idiot.  I have to live with a spelling mistake for the next 30 seconds, you have to live with being an idiot for the rest of your life.
 
2013-02-18 11:58:21 AM  

Molavian: I'm not teatarded, but I'd like to point out that the Democratic party is in fact the most racially and economically bigoted political party of all time.


No, you're not merely teatarded, you're teatard extraordinare.
 
2013-02-18 11:59:37 AM  

Clemkadidlefark: Did he do it?

Or did she just say he did it?


Stop defending your brother-in-kind... there were multiple witnesses.  This is a very strange person to white knight.
 
2013-02-18 12:02:25 PM  

jedikinkoid: Am I the only one who still wants to hear from someone other than the mother and someone who claims he saw it from six rows in front that this really happened, before crucifying the guy? Given the way they stuff people in like sardines, there has to have been someone else who can corroborate it.


Yeah, I have sincere doubts about the ability of somebody SIX ROWS AWAY to hear something happening during landing.  Was Superman on that flight?
 
2013-02-18 12:03:46 PM  
I've been on planes with crying babies, loud drunks and worse.  No different than a public bus or train.  It sucks but grin and bear it.  I brought my 2 year old once and she had a moment or two plus that was a sixteen hour flight.  We do what we can but sometimes it is impossible.

The old man never cried when he was a child?  Probably never had kids with an attitude like that.  I can picture him in his home being the local joke/target.

I am glad he lost his job, nowadays, behavior outside of work does come into play at work.  How many people have been axed for Facebook and the like?  He does work for the military technology... whatever.  You can't have a loose cannon like that being associated with that kind of employer, he's so gone; he'll miss his paycheck and blame it all on people of other ethnicities the rest of his life.

Yes, if it were my kid and I was there, I would have soooo clocked him.  A little mouse like him has no right to touch any kid.  Nobody has the right to touch anyone's children.   I hope he gets a year bunked with some guy named 'Diesel' or something.  Actually not but it was a nice thought.  :)
 
2013-02-18 12:05:09 PM  

Flakeloaf: Firing someone they almost certainly knew was a bigoted jerkoff for being a bigoted jerkoff is a two-faced PR move and has nothing to do with protecting their values and ethics.


Lolwut?
 
2013-02-18 12:06:10 PM  

Source4leko: Two16: Source4leko: Two16: [warehousestories.files.wordpress.com image 260x359]

I also love when people post that picture, because all's that it really shows is that you're a farking moron.

Thanks for catching that.  You are still an idiot.  I have to live with a spelling mistake for the next 30 seconds, you have to live with being an idiot for the rest of your life.


images.wikia.com
 
2013-02-18 12:07:05 PM  

Flakeloaf: Fissile: Seriously, wanna bet this "millionaire job creator" has been a very unpleasant kind of guy for most of his life? Wanna bet the company he worked for kept him on primarily because he's an alpha-Galt ass kicker? Here:s my take: If this hadn't made the news, Slappy and his bosses would all be having a good laugh about it over 20 year old scotch and cuban cigars.

This. No way you can rise to an executive position without someone learning about your bigotry. He was fired for leaving his name and his employment history on the same internet that pointed out that time when he got drunk and punched a baby after calling it a horrible name.

Also, and this is in no way a defence for a racist dickbag who hits infants, but since when is it the employer's place to punish an employee for something he allegedly did? He's not a spokesman. It's not like he did it while dressed up as their mascot on national TV in the middle of the Don't Punch Babies Day Parade, or announced "On behalf of AGC Aerospace and Defense, I demand you shut that attractive and successful African-American baby up with the power of my fist and our innovative engineering!"

If someone asks "How can you keep employing this jerk?", the company should answer "He's a good whatever-he-does and we don't pay him to talk, he has the right to believe whatever odious crap he wants and the first time he even looks at at one of our thousands of diverse employees with an eye askance we're going to hoof him out of an eleventh floor window. Our code of ethics doesn't presume to tell our valued employees what they can do, say or think on their private time." Firing someone they almost certainly knew was a bigoted jerkoff for being a bigoted jerkoff is a two-faced PR move and has nothing to do with protecting their values and ethics.


===================

Wanna bet this guy is a good Republican Romney voter?  I'm sure he believes in "right to work", which directly translates to "Workers have no rights at all, and can be dismissed at the whim of the employer."  Careful what you wish for, blah, blah, blah.

/Got taste of own medicine.
 
2013-02-18 12:13:43 PM  

serial_crusher: Y'know, we really shouldn't be applauding companies for firing people based on accusations.  Wouldn't kill them to wait for a conviction.


Yes, it could.
 
2013-02-18 12:14:26 PM  
Source4leko: Two16: [warehousestories.files.wordpress.com image 260x359]

I also love when people post that picture, because all's that it really shows is that you're a farking moron.

Thanks for catching that.  You are still an idiot.  I have to live with a spelling mistake for the next 30 seconds, you have to live with being an idiot for the rest of your life.



Yes, you are a true hero for taking your brave stance against racists who assault toddlers. If only there were more...
 
2013-02-18 12:14:55 PM  

baddogg: Nobody has the right to touch anyone's children.


I'll keep that in mind the next time you allow yours to run into traffic.
 
2013-02-18 12:18:50 PM  

Source4leko: Two16: Source4leko: Two16: [warehousestories.files.wordpress.com image 260x359]

I also love when people post that picture, because all's that it really shows is that you're a farking moron.

Thanks for catching that.  You are still an idiot.  I have to live with a spelling mistake for the next 30 seconds, you have to live with being an idiot for the rest of your life.



themcchins.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-18 12:23:29 PM  

Fissile:

Wanna bet this guy is a good Republican Romney voter?  I'm sure he believes in "right to work", which directly translates to "Workers have no rights at all ...

You mean me (Canadian pro-weed liberal hippie) or him? I don't see how his employer fits into the criminal justice system and I have no idea why it's their place to punish him for being subhuman unless he was doing it on their time. If this was a company-paid flight then yeah, go nuts, can the jerk. If he was on his own time then what he does and says isn't his employer's damn business. TFA I read doesn't specify if he was on his own time or not.

The My Little Pony Killer: Flakeloaf: Firing someone they almost certainly knew was a bigoted jerkoff for being a bigoted jerkoff is a two-faced PR move and has nothing to do with protecting their values and ethics.

Lolwut?


You can fire a guy because you don't want a racist dickbag working for you, or you can fire him because you don't want to be called out for employing a racist dickbag  when the truth is you really don't care what he believes as long as he makes you money. I'm suggesting the company is doing the second one and calling it the first. The time to fire him for his beliefs was many moons ago when a pretty obvious bias showed itself; Fissile's earlier post about the old boys laughing this one off was probably spot-on.
 
2013-02-18 12:24:14 PM  
If the mother was black he would have gotten his arse kicked. Since the mother is white all she did was whine. Granted if I were on the flight and saw him hit the child I would probably be sitting in jail for turning the old racist into cracker crumbs.
 
2013-02-18 12:27:29 PM  

Fissile: Tat'dGreaser: Really? Have you guys not heard of adoption?

==============

That, or "dad" is the very definition of pwned.

Seriously, wanna bet this "millionaire job creator"  has been a very unpleasant kind of guy for most of his life?   Wanna bet the company he worked for kept him on primarily because he's an alpha-Galt ass kicker?  Here:s my take:  If this hadn't made the news, Slappy and his bosses would all be having a good laugh about it over 20 year old scotch and cuban cigars.

BTW, wanna bet this guy is a Republican?  A Republican who hates government?  Yup, a government hating Republican who was receiving a fat pay check from company that does all it's business with the government. In other words this is your typical Romney voter.


The aviation industry basically depends on ex-(or strongly pro-)military dick-swinging males. Spend any time at all around pilots or planes and you'll learn not to express any center-left political views. The only aviation enthusiast I know who's a Democrat only flies R/C.
 
2013-02-18 12:29:01 PM  
If the mother was black he would have gotten his arse kicked. Since the mother is white all she did was whine. Granted if I were on the flight and saw him hit the child I would probably be sitting in jail for turning the old racist into cracker crumbs.

I can see how much you despise racism.
 
2013-02-18 12:30:18 PM  
when did he take his KKK cap off?
 
2013-02-18 12:36:50 PM  
Slapping a baby is pointless, crude, and completely unnecessary when you have a perfectly good toilet in the back to shove the screeching crotchloaf into and flush.
 
2013-02-18 12:37:17 PM  
i48.tinypic.com
www.ontopmag.com
Separated at birth? (Gov. of Michigan, so they are both pretty much losers in life)
 
2013-02-18 12:37:42 PM  

quatchi: Where's this guy from again?

Hayden, Idaho

My surprised face... -_-


Land of Taters and Haters.
 
2013-02-18 12:40:44 PM  

JaCiNto: They showed the father on TV this morning and he was a white guy. How did two white people make that baby??


www.cracked.com
 
2013-02-18 12:46:24 PM  
The physics of the assault are mind boggling.

1. The guy who clearly heard the idiot say the N-word was 12 rows away, while the engines were screaming in preperation for landing
2. Somehow the idiot managed to "turn around" in a coach seat, and slap a baby to his right, scratching him below the right eye.
3. The President of a government contracting Aircraft Parts company was not only flying Coach, but regular Coarch, not Economy Comfort.
4. Delta allowed either a 19 month or 2 years (depending on the source) child to be seating the row behind an exit row. This is explicetly against their travelling with infant policy.
5. The family's lawyer is a specialist not in personal injury (as if they would be litigating against the idiot) but a specialist in Business Disputes, so looks like the lawsuit will land on Delta's lap.

Did he do it? A-yup, looks like it, but it does need to make a bit more sense.
 
2013-02-18 01:07:48 PM  

i upped my meds-up yours: Fissile: Tat'dGreaser: Really? Have you guys not heard of adoption?

==============

That, or "dad" is the very definition of pwned.

Seriously, wanna bet this "millionaire job creator"  has been a very unpleasant kind of guy for most of his life?   Wanna bet the company he worked for kept him on primarily because he's an alpha-Galt ass kicker?  Here:s my take:  If this hadn't made the news, Slappy and his bosses would all be having a good laugh about it over 20 year old scotch and cuban cigars.

BTW, wanna bet this guy is a Republican?  A Republican who hates government?  Yup, a government hating Republican who was receiving a fat pay check from company that does all it's business with the government. In other words this is your typical Romney voter.

The aviation industry basically depends on ex-(or strongly pro-)military dick-swinging males. Spend any time at all around pilots or planes and you'll learn not to express any center-left political views. The only aviation enthusiast I know who's a Democrat only flies R/C.


===========

I'm sure.  I'm also sure that the aerospace industry wouldn't exist but for tax dollars.

/Ironic pilots are ironic.
 
2013-02-18 01:08:55 PM  
I'm most dismayed that he slapped the child as they were in approach mode for their destination. Not that an adult should ever slap a baby for any reason, but if you MUST slap a baby, do it half-way through a trans-Pacific flight. You know, when it might do some good.
In this case, the racist old dude should have just sucked it up and dealt with it for 10 minutes.
His loss of job is a pleasant surprise, if ya ask me.
 
2013-02-18 01:11:34 PM  

Flakeloaf: You can fire a guy because you don't want a racist dickbag working for you, or you can fire him because you don't want to be called out for employing a racist dickbag when the truth is you really don't care what he believes as long as he makes you money. I'm suggesting the company is doing the second one and calling it the first. The time to fire him for his beliefs was many moons ago when a pretty obvious bias showed itself; Fissile's earlier post about the old boys laughing this one off was probably spot-on.


Do you really think he wouldn't have been fired if he just hadn't used the n-word?
 
2013-02-18 01:24:21 PM  
Whar hero tag?
 
2013-02-18 01:31:39 PM  

Flakeloaf: when the truth is you really don't care what he believes as long as he makes you money.


Bullshiat. It's plain to see that you've never owned a business if that's what you believe. If my company's name had been in the news for something like this I would've fired his ass quickly. I fired an employee for slapping his wife once and this is much worse. Just the fact that people linked my business with him was enough. And this asshats employer wasn't it the news for inventing a new product, or doing a commmunity service, they were in the news for someone who represents thier public image slapping a child and using a racial slur. Just because you aren't on the clock doesn't mean that you aren't the face of your employer to the public. That's just how it works.
 
2013-02-18 01:39:44 PM  

draa: Flakeloaf: when the truth is you really don't care what he believes as long as he makes you money.

Bullshiat. It's plain to see that you've never owned a business if that's what you believe. If my company's name had been in the news for something like this I would've fired his ass quickly. I fired an employee for slapping his wife once and this is much worse. Just the fact that people linked my business with him was enough. And this asshats employer wasn't it the news for inventing a new product, or doing a commmunity service, they were in the news for someone who represents thier public image slapping a child and using a racial slur. Just because you aren't on the clock doesn't mean that you aren't the face of your employer to the public. That's just how it works.


So having committed a crime means you forever lose the ability to ever be employed.
 
2013-02-18 02:03:00 PM  

Flakeloaf: So having committed a crime means you forever lose the ability to ever be employed.


No. But having a felony on your record is an automatic no hire for probably 90% of white collar jobs.  And having your employers names splashed across the screen in a very negative light is a good way to get fire. Like the asshat that went to Chick-fil-A and and made an ass of himself. As soon as the name of the company he worked for was made public, he was fired.
 
2013-02-18 02:12:11 PM  
Is non-racist baby slapping still OK though?  I've got some flights soon and want to keep my options open...
 
2013-02-18 02:14:53 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: Maybe he should have claimed he thought it was a chicken.


That would have worked if he had choked it
 
2013-02-18 02:17:05 PM  

JaCiNto: They showed the father on TV this morning and he was a white guy. How did two white people make that baby??


there's this thing call adoption. you might want to look it up on Merriam.
 
2013-02-18 02:21:51 PM  

factoryconnection: I don't like to make assumptions about drunken, racist, abusive, violent people, but fortunately the facts alone make him seem terrible enough.

About the mother, though: I can only imagine the two reasons that she didn't pound this clown's face is because (1) she was consoling her baby and (2) because she was in shock.  Had he pulled that on a black woman a little less shocked at seeing racism thrown her way, I doubt he'd have been so pretty for his mugshot.


I wouldn't be surprised had the mom been black the perp probably would've restrained himself better. He probably thought he could have gotten a way with it (and he did) since the mom is white.
 
2013-02-18 02:29:19 PM  

Warlordtrooper: I just cannot bring myself to feel outraged over any part of this story

It's good that the racist was fired. Shows that we as a society will shun such ignorant idiots. However there is a part of society that feels its not the parents responsibility to teach their children how to act in public. If you. Cannot control your child then don't bring them on a plane


Babies on planes tend to cry because the pressure is causing them pain and\or they're scared of being somewhere new.

Yep, totally the fault of a kid not even out of diapers for crying when they're in pain or terrified! Evil, evil children! And for our next act, we'll slap you for screaming if you break your leg, since you shouldn't be allowed in public if you can't control yourself!
 
2013-02-18 02:50:34 PM  
pro-tip: always pack earplugs in your carry-on bag.

CSS time:

A year or two ago, I was on a flight where I had the middle seat. Guy next to me on the aisle was an alleged ex-NFL player, so big he spilled into my seat. Huge Irish-American dude, fake joker personality. McExNFL was dipping into chewing tobacco, drinking beers, and high on medical marijuana candy. At one point he was flipping his head all over the place.

But McExNFL managed to play Angry Birds with those fat sausage fingers of his while all kinds of high, so he's still got that going for him, which is nice.

\did not slap 300 lb intoxicated man, who probably could've snapped my neck and left me dead in my seat without anybody noticing until everybody else had gotten off the plane
 
2013-02-18 02:53:49 PM  
Shein said that even if her client did use the slur, it does not make him a racist.

i8.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-18 02:55:08 PM  

0Icky0: sithon: He's lucky the father wasn't there . I would have beaten him to a bloody pulp.

So the baby gets slapped and then you beat up the father?
Damn, that's cold.


No the old man's father.  You think this guy is an Ahole, you need to meet his dad.
 
2013-02-18 03:01:13 PM  
i209.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-18 03:02:12 PM  

hitmanric: Maybe the baby was being a dick?


Just so people know where you're coming from.
 
2013-02-18 03:04:12 PM  

Flakeloaf: The My Little Pony Killer: Flakeloaf: Firing someone they almost certainly knew was a bigoted jerkoff for being a bigoted jerkoff is a two-faced PR move and has nothing to do with protecting their values and ethics.

Lolwut?

You can fire a guy because you don't want a racist dickbag working for you, or you can fire him because you don't want to be called out for employing a racist dickbag  when the truth is you really don't care what he believes as long as he makes you money. I'm suggesting the company is doing the second one and calling it the first. The time to fire him for his beliefs was many moons ago when a pretty obvious bias showed itself; Fissile's earlier post about the old boys laughing this one off was probably spot-on.


Most high ranking employees have a morality clause in their employment contracts (most high ranking corporate employees also have contracts) that generally state if the person does anything that will reflect poorly on the company, the company can fire them without consequence.  The suspension period was a way to distance the company from the guy while the legal team reviewed the contract and made sure this event qualified.
The company was fine with him being a dickbag until he made the news about it.
 
2013-02-18 03:16:55 PM  
You know, when I read this story the first time around I said to myself, "I could see this happening".  I work for an Aircraft Manufacturer, and I've seen some of the management staff "in action"...  Yep.  Yeeeeeeep....

FTA: The attorney for the child's family, John Thompson, said the family has not decided yet whether to sue.

Well that's easy.  He's rolling in it.  And it's not like you're going to get a humanitarian award for not suing...

FTA: But he said Monday family members believe Hundley should be punished beyond the loss of his job and possible one-year federal prison sentence.

Assault on a minor really warrants that?  Honest question.  I think the guy's a douche, mind you.  I'm just not sure he's a douche that needs to do time in a federal lock-up.  For instance, you have:

FTA: InSession legal analyst Joey Jackson said he doesn't think there's a significant case because the child was not seriously harmed.

So yeah, might be overkill here.

FTA: "The family wants to make sure that Mr. Hundley and anyone like Mr. Hundley never does something like that again," he said on CNN's "Starting Point."

Yeah...  Good luck with that.
 
2013-02-18 03:27:25 PM  

SkunkWerks: You know, when I read this story the first time around I said to myself, "I could see this happening".  I work for an Aircraft Manufacturer, and I've seen some of the management staff "in action"...  Yep.  Yeeeeeeep....

FTA: The attorney for the child's family, John Thompson, said the family has not decided yet whether to sue.

Well that's easy.  He's rolling in it.  And it's not like you're going to get a humanitarian award for not suing...

FTA: But he said Monday family members believe Hundley should be punished beyond the loss of his job and possible one-year federal prison sentence.

Assault on a minor really warrants that?  Honest question.  I think the guy's a douche, mind you.  I'm just not sure he's a douche that needs to do time in a federal lock-up.  For instance, you have:

FTA: InSession legal analyst Joey Jackson said he doesn't think there's a significant case because the child was not seriously harmed.

So yeah, might be overkill here.

FTA: "The family wants to make sure that Mr. Hundley and anyone like Mr. Hundley never does something like that again," he said on CNN's "Starting Point."

Yeah...  Good luck with that.


Not just any minor, but a minor of color. They're special, they have an entire sets of laws (hate crime legislation) just for them.
 
2013-02-18 03:30:26 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: I wouldn't be surprised had the mom been black the perp probably would've restrained himself better. He probably thought he could have gotten a way with it (and he did) since the mom is white.


I'm inclined to agree.  If he's the type to use the "n-word" in public he's ironically most likely quite afraid of black people.  That he's one to slap a baby already screams "coward."

SkunkWerks: Assault on a minor really warrants that? Honest question. I think the guy's a douche, mind you. I'm just not sure he's a douche that needs to do time in a federal lock-up.


Assault is the crime that happened here, and in the air it is under federal jurisdiction.  Were it battery, with significant injuries that come along with it, the possible sentence would have been considerably more severe.  The real stitch for him is that you have to serve a minimum of (IIRC) 90% of a federal sentence before being eligible for parole.

roc6783: Most high ranking employees have a morality clause in their employment contracts (most high ranking corporate employees also have contracts) that generally state if the person does anything that will reflect poorly on the company, the company can fire them without consequence.


Hell, they may have a "no drinking during business hours" and his drunken behavior may have made for a clear-cut case of violation of explicit rules based on when the flight was.

FTA: Hundley's attorney, Marcia Shein, said her client is being unfairly portrayed.  "This has escalated into a racist issue and I want to be clear he is not a racist," Shein said.

Who else would just have the phrase "n*gger baby" standing by for casual use?  I mean, I've heard black guys call toddlers on the playground "little n*gga" before but even that seemed really strange without this jackass's obvious malice.  I know that lawyers have to practice damage control in public, but seriously this is a stretch that only $200+ /hour can empower.
 
2013-02-18 04:51:16 PM  

NathanAllen: The physics of the assault are mind boggling.

...while the engines were screaming in preperation for landing

...

I'm not a professional airline pilot, but I was under the impression that you want to REDUCE speed in preparation for landing. Any pilots want to weigh in on this?
 
2013-02-18 04:51:23 PM  

Warlordtrooper: However there is a part of society that feels its not the parents responsibility to teach their children how to act in public. If you. Cannot control your child then don't bring them on a plane


Let me see if I can clear this up for you.

A. Babies cry.

B. Sometimes babies have to travel.

C. A baby crying on a plane is not necessarily (and probably not) a reflection of poor parenting.

D. Suck it up. You're an adult in civil society. Buy some good headphones if you're that completely incapable of hearing a noise.
 
2013-02-18 04:51:46 PM  

doubled99: Child Slapped.
Yes, let's all act like this is the crime of the century.


Well, did you see where the woman's attorney is considering pushing for a year in federal prison?
 
2013-02-18 04:54:46 PM  

roc6783: Most high ranking employees have a morality clause in their employment contracts (most high ranking corporate employees also have contracts) that generally state if the person does anything that will reflect poorly on the company, the company can fire them without consequence. The suspension period was a way to distance the company from the guy while the legal team reviewed the contract and made sure this event qualified.
The company was fine with him being a dickbag until he made the news about it.


Well in that case, fark him.
 
2013-02-18 05:04:05 PM  

Savage Belief: Warlordtrooper: I just cannot bring myself to feel outraged over any part of this story

It's good that the racist was fired. Shows that we as a society will shun such ignorant idiots. However there is a part of society that feels its not the parents responsibility to teach their children how to act in public. If you. Cannot control your child then don't bring them on a plane

19 month old babies cannot control the pressure in their ears the same way older children can. This is a fact of life. If you can't handle a few minutes of crying at the end of a flight, perhaps it is YOU that shouldn't be flying, asshole.


Hell, sometimes adults can't control the pressure, either. I once flew with an ear infection and I was pretty much crying myself.
 
2013-02-18 05:20:06 PM  

Molavian: hitmanric: Maybe the baby was being a dick?

Just so people know where you're coming from.


I never thought that reference would needed to be explained. Especially on fark.

Thanks for the backup.
 
2013-02-18 06:26:30 PM  

bborchar: Kids have never bothered me on flights...I can ignore crying with some headphones. Adults, however, are another story. I sat next to a paranoid drug addict once who suddenly screamed at my friend and me for talking before the plane ever took off. Then she spaced out for a while before suddenly questioning my friend about his sex life. Another time, I had to spend a late flight next to two very drunk women who couldn't shut up, and kept knocking into me or getting stuff on me. So yeah, crying kids have nothing on idiot adults.

/I would have punched the s%^# out of that man if he had touched my kid.


VIOLENC YEAH!!!
 
2013-02-18 06:34:27 PM  
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2013-02-18 07:34:41 PM  

JaCiNto: They showed the father on TV this morning and he was a white guy. How did two white people make that baby??


This post was so stupid that I think I lost a few brain cells.
 
2013-02-18 07:38:36 PM  
Holy shiat! This story makes my blood boil.  If I saw that, they'd be pulling two of us off that flight in handcuffs.
 
2013-02-18 07:41:00 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: jedikinkoid: Am I the only one who still wants to hear from someone other than the mother and someone who claims he saw it from six rows in front that this really happened, before crucifying the guy? Given the way they stuff people in like sardines, there has to have been someone else who can corroborate it.

Yeah, I have sincere doubts about the ability of somebody SIX ROWS AWAY to hear something happening during landing.  Was Superman on that flight?


TFA claims an air marshal witnessed it as well, and that several passengers came to the woman's assistance.
 
2013-02-18 08:48:41 PM  

GalFriday: special20: sithon: He's lucky the father wasn't there . I would have beaten him to a bloody pulp.

Apparently the father is black.

Father is white.  The baby is black.  The baby was adopted by a white couple as an accessory for the mom's designer hand bags.


That's some ignorant crap there. Most children up for adoption in the US are black or Hispanic. My husband and I are considering adopting a child because we feel that squirting out two is plenty when there are so many children in need of a home. But of course, I'd hate to be trendy. Douchebag.
 
2013-02-18 08:59:53 PM  

Egalitarian: pro-tip: always pack earplugs in your carry-on bag.

CSS time:

A year or two ago, I was on a flight where I had the middle seat. Guy next to me on the aisle was an alleged ex-NFL player, so big he spilled into my seat. Huge Irish-American dude, fake joker personality. McExNFL was dipping into chewing tobacco, drinking beers, and high on medical marijuana candy. At one point he was flipping his head all over the place.

But McExNFL managed to play Angry Birds with those fat sausage fingers of his while all kinds of high, so he's still got that going for him, which is nice.

\did not slap 300 lb intoxicated man, who probably could've snapped my neck and left me dead in my seat without anybody noticing until everybody else had gotten off the plane


I don't care how big you are, if you're sitting next to me on airplane, you ain't dipping.
 
2013-02-18 09:31:59 PM  

Fissile: Tat'dGreaser: Really? Have you guys not heard of adoption?

==============

BTW, wanna bet this guy is a Republican?  A Republican who hates government?  Yup, a government hating Republican who was receiving a fat pay check from company that does all it's business with the government. In other words this is your typical Romney voter.


No, because there's no evidence in the story either way and it's entirely irrelevant to the story.
 
2013-02-18 10:51:41 PM  

Molavian: special20: The current manifestation of the most racially and economically bigoted movement that we have today is referred to as "The Tea Party".

I'm not teatarded, but I'd like to point out that the Democratic party is in fact the most racially and economically bigoted political party of all time.  They've done more to subjugate black people than any other group in history, and still do it to this day.  You couldn't come up with a better plan to tear people down than they use on minorities.


No, I think that what you're referring to is a myth propagated by the Koch brothers and their interests.
 
2013-02-18 10:57:40 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Yeah...  Good luck with that.


I expect plenty of e-mails from the usual corners entitled "RE: Re: RE: Fwd: Fwd: RE: Don't slap that baby!!!!!!"  with bad photoshops of african american babys attached along with some whaaargabl about them being a protected species thanks to Obama.
 
2013-02-18 11:41:47 PM  

Flakeloaf: Fissile:

Wanna bet this guy is a good Republican Romney voter?  I'm sure he believes in "right to work", which directly translates to "Workers have no rights at all ...

You mean me (Canadian pro-weed liberal hippie) or him? I don't see how his employer fits into the criminal justice system and I have no idea why it's their place to punish him for being subhuman unless he was doing it on their time. If this was a company-paid flight then yeah, go nuts, can the jerk. If he was on his own time then what he does and says isn't his employer's damn business. TFA I read doesn't specify if he was on his own time or not.

The My Little Pony Killer: Flakeloaf: Firing someone they almost certainly knew was a bigoted jerkoff for being a bigoted jerkoff is a two-faced PR move and has nothing to do with protecting their values and ethics.

Lolwut?

You can fire a guy because you don't want a racist dickbag working for you, or you can fire him because you don't want to be called out for employing a racist dickbag  when the truth is you really don't care what he believes as long as he makes you money. I'm suggesting the company is doing the second one and calling it the first. The time to fire him for his beliefs was many moons ago when a pretty obvious bias showed itself; Fissile's earlier post about the old boys laughing this one off was probably spot-on.


Honey, the company values profit.  They're saving their profit by firing the racist douchebag.  They are thinking of their values.  My lolwut stands.
 
2013-02-18 11:50:50 PM  

Wayne 985: The My Little Pony Killer: jedikinkoid: Am I the only one who still wants to hear from someone other than the mother and someone who claims he saw it from six rows in front that this really happened, before crucifying the guy? Given the way they stuff people in like sardines, there has to have been someone else who can corroborate it.

Yeah, I have sincere doubts about the ability of somebody SIX ROWS AWAY to hear something happening during landing.  Was Superman on that flight?

TFA claims an air marshal witnessed it as well, and that several passengers came to the woman's assistance.


Where in TFA do you get an air marshal witnessing it? The word marshal doesn't even appear in the article. And "assistance" doesn't mean they witnessed anything, just that they came over and said "Are you all right, sweetie?" after someone started (justifiably, if all this is true) making a scene about it.
 
2013-02-19 12:06:29 AM  

firefly212: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: SpdrJay: They have Sex Offender registries for people who piss in alleys.

There needs to be an Asshat Registry for people like this.

Love all the snarky political comments. Seriously, who does not know, today, that this would be inappropriate behavior under any circumstances? Even if the guy was a hard-core racist, it is simply beyond belief that he would not be able to control his emotional reactions to annoyance. Hey, Fark Experts, the guy sounds (and looks) bi-polar. (Why yes, there IS very often a certain "look" to many people that have bi-polar issues. Also schizophrenia. A lack of "cohesiveness" in the face.) He needs medication. Seriously, not snark.

Dime to dollar, given his relatively peaceful adulthood and more recent descent into bad behavior, I'd wager he's got early onset dementia or something. Jail won't fix his problem, but court ordered psych visits may go a long way.


Thank you. A refreshing change from the other two hate-filled rants, Yes, I hadn't considered EOD or similar, since I am more personally cand closely connected with things like schizophrenia and bi-polar...
 
2013-02-19 08:06:08 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: SkunkWerks: You know, when I read this story the first time around I said to myself, "I could see this happening".  I work for an Aircraft Manufacturer, and I've seen some of the management staff "in action"...  Yep.  Yeeeeeeep....

FTA: The attorney for the child's family, John Thompson, said the family has not decided yet whether to sue.

Well that's easy.  He's rolling in it.  And it's not like you're going to get a humanitarian award for not suing...

FTA: But he said Monday family members believe Hundley should be punished beyond the loss of his job and possible one-year federal prison sentence.

Assault on a minor really warrants that?  Honest question.  I think the guy's a douche, mind you.  I'm just not sure he's a douche that needs to do time in a federal lock-up.  For instance, you have:

FTA: InSession legal analyst Joey Jackson said he doesn't think there's a significant case because the child was not seriously harmed.

So yeah, might be overkill here.

FTA: "The family wants to make sure that Mr. Hundley and anyone like Mr. Hundley never does something like that again," he said on CNN's "Starting Point."

Yeah...  Good luck with that.

Not just any minor, but a minor of color. They're special, they have an entire sets of laws (hate crime legislation) just for them.


God, f*ck you. The man slapped a baby for god's sake and all you can do is be a dickhead and bring your petty grievances about race and the law into  it.
 
2013-02-19 08:08:43 AM  

technofiend: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Yeah...  Good luck with that.

I expect plenty of e-mails from the usual corners entitled "RE: Re: RE: Fwd: Fwd: RE: Don't slap that baby!!!!!!"  with bad photoshops of african american babys attached along with some whaaargabl about them being a protected species thanks to Obama.


With Dow Jones composing the original email
 
2013-02-19 09:31:18 AM  

Wayne 985: JaCiNto: They showed the father on TV this morning and he was a white guy. How did two white people make that baby??

This post was so stupid that I think I lost a few brain cells.


Your inability to follow the thread and see that I clarified my post with a "Me, Myself, and Irene" reference leads me to believe that you have precious few brain cells left...
 
2013-02-19 11:06:28 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: They're special, they have an entire sets of laws (hate crime legislation) just for them.


Never got the butthurt about stuff like this.  If we still didn't have this occasionally predilection for treating such people (different people) as subhuman (I think "shut that n*gger baby up"- particularly when followed by assault on a minor- qualifies), laws like this wouldn't be necessary.

It really is just that simple.  I'm not in any "special" class of person and even I get this.

factoryconnection: Assault is the crime that happened here, and in the air it is under federal jurisdiction. Were it battery, with significant injuries that come along with it, the possible sentence would have been considerably more severe. The real stitch for him is that you have to serve a minimum of (IIRC) 90% of a federal sentence before being eligible for parole.


I guess that answers my question then.  Federal Prison on a technicality it is then.  Can't say I'm feeling much sympathy here.  The guy seems to have been thoroughly soused and well aware he's had issues with "tact" in the past.

Still, it just seemed a bit extreme, and possibly an abuse of federal resources.  Meh.
 
2013-02-19 11:07:41 AM  

technofiend: I expect plenty of e-mails from the usual corners entitled "RE: Re: RE: Fwd: Fwd: RE: Don't slap that baby!!!!!!" with bad photoshops of african american babys attached along with some whaaargabl about them being a protected species thanks to Obama.


It's what I sift through my dad's e-mail for...  well, that and he keeps breaking his damn computer.
 
2013-02-19 02:12:05 PM  

Greek: It sounds like the child behaved himself just fine throughout the flight, but on descent, was having issues with the altitude change. What do you want the mother to do with a baby who's likely in pain?


Oh I don't know. Maybe KEEP IT OUT OF FARKING ENCLOSED METAL TUBES FILLED WITH OTHER PEOPLE UNTIL IT IS OLD ENOUGH TO BEHAVE IN PUBLIC? You're probably right though. It would be way too much work to be considerate to others, so fark them. They can just STFU and deal with the noise created by my unrestrained screaming shiat machine.
 
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