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(NFL Spin Zone)   There may still be a way to make the San Diego Chargers finish losing every single fan they have. Move to Texas   (nflspinzone.com) divider line 44
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2013-02-18 01:56:51 AM
sfcitizen.com
 
2013-02-18 02:08:34 AM
If or when they move, there is no way the Chargers would move to Texas with 2 other teams in that state and Los Angeles being wide open.
 
2013-02-18 02:37:08 AM
I hate San Antonio. Yeah, I said it. Farkers tried to scalp my Saints in our weakest moment.
 
2013-02-18 06:34:42 AM
This is all to keep that song.
 
2013-02-18 06:46:26 AM
FTA:  New York has 3 NFL teams

In other news, New York and New Jersey are the same state.
 
2013-02-18 07:15:53 AM

mikemoto: FTA:  New York has 3 NFL teams

In other news, New York and New Jersey are the same state.


May as well be.
 
2013-02-18 07:31:53 AM
Texas couldn't hold onto the Oilers.  You might as well have the team move to Mississippi and call them the Spooneaters.
 
2013-02-18 07:46:52 AM
The fact that Texas spawned an utter tool like Rick Perry is the only reason anyone would ever need to not move there.

Anyone who chooses to move to Texas raises the average IQ of both Texas and their place of origin by doing so.
 
2013-02-18 07:47:03 AM
The San Diego Chargers? Are they still a thing? Well, wotta ya know.
 
2013-02-18 07:49:27 AM
Wouldn't that require LA to move to Texas first?

/dnrtfao
 
2013-02-18 07:50:49 AM

SnarfVader: If or when they move, there is no way the Chargers would move to Texas with 2 other teams in that state and Los Angeles being wide open.


Why? Texas actually cares about professional sports. If they move to LA they would move out after five years.

Cant blame them.
 
2013-02-18 08:19:45 AM

great_tigers: SnarfVader: If or when they move, there is no way the Chargers would move to Texas with 2 other teams in that state and Los Angeles being wide open.

Why? Texas actually cares about professional sports. If they move to LA they would move out after five years.

Cant blame them.


Two things:
1. Will the "Texans caring about pro sports" thing carry over to San Antonio? I mean, there's gotta be a reason they don't have anything else, in my book.
2. The Chargers, at this point, almost need to go to LA just to get San Diego County to finally break down and build them a new stadium.  Nothing else has worked.
 
2013-02-18 08:19:48 AM
Jerry would never let a team move into San Antonio and the other owners would never let So Cal be without a team somewhere.
 
2013-02-18 08:20:18 AM

SnarfVader: If or when they move, there is no way the Chargers would move to Texas with 2 other teams in that state and Los Angeles being wide open.


Yeah, you can either move into the 30-something largest market of 1 to 2 million people where no one outside of San Antonio would pay attention to your team.

Or

You can move into the 2nd largest market home to numerous corporations where you would have a monopoly on the sport in a region full of 20 million people.

Tough call.
 
2013-02-18 08:22:31 AM

FriarReb98: 1. Will the "Texans caring about pro sports" thing carry over to San Antonio? I mean, there's gotta be a reason they don't have anything else, in my book.


Just look at the treatment the Texans get outside of Houston, which is very little. Even when they're good. The Cowboys run this state and they'll be damned if a third team comes in to try and take some of their thunder away.
 
2013-02-18 08:42:56 AM

FriarReb98: 1. Will the "Texans caring about pro sports" thing carry over to San Antonio? I mean, there's gotta be a reason they don't have anything else, in my book.


They have a 23,000 seat high school football stadium, so there may actually be a market for pro football there.
 
2013-02-18 08:51:43 AM
We already have the Padres AA team here, why not their AA NFL team?

And yes, we have no professional teams besides Los Spurs..........

 NBA - Los Spurs
 WNBA - Silver Stars
 MiLB - Missions (Padres AA)
 AHL - Rampage
 AFL - Talons
 NASL - Scorpions

And where would they play?  The Alamodome hosts UTSA and the Talons.
 
2013-02-18 08:53:30 AM
Ain't happening for 2 reasons.

1.  The league would never allow it.
2.  Texas would never support it, even the ones in SA.
And 3, ok three reasons it won't happen.
3.  You could build a better team from scratch by picking people up off the street outside homeless shelters.

The League would like to drop a team or two anyway, the talent pool is pretty thin these days and less teams to share the wealth means more wealth for those that remain.  Teams that are not producing decent cashflow (Chargers, Lions, etc.) are a drain on the League financially, and if it becomes chronic the League will not be sticking its neck out to save them.
 
2013-02-18 09:14:07 AM
MikeSass:  3.  You could build a better team from scratch by picking people up off the street outside homeless shelters.

Hey, dipshiat...the Chargers have had one losing record (7-9) in the past nine seasons. Try actually, you know, watching some football before you post.
 
2013-02-18 09:33:19 AM

MikeSass: 3. You could build a better team from scratch by picking people up off the street outside homeless shelters.


The Chargers have long been a pretty good team that can't take it all the way. Their window is probably closing for now, but they're by no means awful.
 
2013-02-18 09:34:46 AM

Mrtraveler01: SnarfVader: If or when they move, there is no way the Chargers would move to Texas with 2 other teams in that state and Los Angeles being wide open.

Yeah, you can either move into the 30-something largest market of 1 to 2 million people where no one outside of San Antonio would pay attention to your team.

Or

You can move into the 2nd largest market home to numerous corporations where you would have a monopoly on the sport in a region full of 20 million people.

Tough call.


Yet somehow, bot the Raiders and Rams failed in LA. Third time's the charm.

In addition, California doesn't have any money to spend on stadiums or stupid shiat like that. Texas is has a ton of cash and a low IQ.
 
2013-02-18 10:03:57 AM

Kyosuke: FriarReb98: 1. Will the "Texans caring about pro sports" thing carry over to San Antonio? I mean, there's gotta be a reason they don't have anything else, in my book.

They have a 23,000 seat high school football stadium, so there may actually be a market for pro football there.


And Jacksonville is kinda big on college football, and Florida is huge for HS football. The Jags still have no fan base.

Fans don't necessarily follow all levels of the sport.
 
2013-02-18 10:28:40 AM
As if I didn't have enough reasons to despise Rick Perry.  Or the Spanos brothers.
 
2013-02-18 10:34:03 AM

Komplex: Yet somehow, bot the Raiders and Rams failed in LA.


No, Al Davis didn't get his free stadium in time, so he left.

The guy who owned the Rams died and left the franchise to his wife, who was from Missouri, and she wanted to go back home so she turned the team to sh*t and basically was a less attractive version of the owner from Major League.

That's it. It's not that people didn't watch; it's that they had owners who didn't want to be there.
 
2013-02-18 10:38:55 AM

Komplex: In addition, California doesn't have any money to spend on stadiums or stupid shiat like that.


Yeah, I haven't followed the whole thing super closely, but it seems like Spanos wants to keep the team in SD. The problem is that the stadium was built in 1967 as a multipurpose Padres/Chargers facility, which was the trend at the time, but all of those types of stadiums (except Oakland?) have long been torn down, because they don't really suit the modern business model of lots of seats in optimal sight lines and luxury boxes. The last time I was there, ~20 years ago, it was really showing it's age, and frankly I'm surprised it still exists.

I'll probably shed a couple tears when it finally gets demolished, because when Ray Kroc owned the Padres, he did everything he could to get kids in the stands. He partnered with 7-Up for a deal where a kid could get a bleacher seat for 10 games for $10(!) and we roamed that stadium as if it were our own. Plus, after the 5th inning or so, we'd sneak down to field level seats...the ushers would look the other way and do everything but whistle innocently as we "snuck" past them. We thought we were pretty badass for doing that.

/CSB
 
2013-02-18 10:43:14 AM
Why not Mexico City?
 
2013-02-18 10:45:59 AM

iron_city_ap: Jerry would never let a team move into San Antonio and the other owners would never let So Cal be without a team somewhere.


THIS

The Cowboys market themselves heavily in San Antonio. Keeping at least half of training camp down there is no accident.
 
2013-02-18 10:48:31 AM
Jerry says no
 
2013-02-18 10:48:39 AM

Mrtraveler01: FriarReb98: 1. Will the "Texans caring about pro sports" thing carry over to San Antonio? I mean, there's gotta be a reason they don't have anything else, in my book.

Just look at the treatment the Texans get outside of Houston, which is very little. Even when they're good. The Cowboys run this state and they'll be damned if a third team comes in to try and take some of their thunder away.


They aren't going to Oklahoma, dumbass.
 
2013-02-18 11:06:32 AM
You could build a stadium in New Braunfels or San Marcos and draw from both Austin and San Antonio. If you combine both markets you're talking about well over 3 million people and a top 15 media market that's served by a whopping ONE pro-sports team. And thanks to Prop 30, California residents and businesses are moving to Texas in droves. Texas is 1.3 trillion dollar economy with 8 major pro teams. California's economy is bigger at 1.9 trillion but they have almost double the number of pro sports teams. Even Florida, whose economy is significantly smaller than Texas' has more pro sports teams than Texas.
 
2013-02-18 11:20:01 AM

Di Atribe: iron_city_ap: Jerry would never let a team move into San Antonio and the other owners would never let So Cal be without a team somewhere.

THIS

The Cowboys market themselves heavily in San Antonio. Keeping at least half of training camp down there is no accident.


Yup. People don't realize how bad Jerry works to monopolize the entire state. I'm sure he pitched a fit behind closed doors about the Texans, but, he stood no chance.
 
2013-02-18 11:49:15 AM

IAmRight: Komplex: Yet somehow, bot the Raiders and Rams failed in LA.

No, Al Davis didn't get his free stadium in time, so he left.

The guy who owned the Rams died and left the franchise to his wife, who was from Missouri, and she wanted to go back home so she turned the team to sh*t and basically was a less attractive version of the owner from Major League.

That's it. It's not that people didn't watch; it's that they had owners who didn't want to be there.


LA must be a hellhole.
 
2013-02-18 12:02:30 PM

iamskibibitz: You could build a stadium in New Braunfels or San Marcos and draw from both Austin and San Antonio. If you combine both markets you're talking about well over 3 million people and a top 15 media market that's served by a whopping ONE pro-sports team. And thanks to Prop 30, California residents and businesses are moving to Texas in droves. Texas is 1.3 trillion dollar economy with 8 major pro teams. California's economy is bigger at 1.9 trillion but they have almost double the number of pro sports teams. Even Florida, whose economy is significantly smaller than Texas' has more pro sports teams than Texas.


People don't realize the size of the Austin-San Antonio corridor until they witness it. It has virtually become one continuous city. I live in Indianapolis and there are 3 teams closer to me than any Texas team is to San Antonio. And I really don't live in a hotbed for pro football. There is a definite market in SA, but the Chargers? I think the Jags should be the team. That was a mistake to put them there. Besides, SA/Hou would be a good rivalry.
 
2013-02-18 02:06:48 PM

dripping with sarcasm: People don't realize the size of the Austin-San Antonio corridor until they witness it. It has virtually become one continuous city. I live in Indianapolis and there are 3 teams closer to me than any Texas team is to San Antonio. And I really don't live in a hotbed for pro football. There is a definite market in SA, but the Chargers? I think the Jags should be the team. That was a mistake to put them there. Besides, SA/Hou would be a good rivalry.


I don't think Jerry Jones would be open to the idea of any team, whether it's the Chargers or Jag-you-ares (as pronounced by many TV idiots), moving to Texas.
 
2013-02-18 02:09:18 PM

LessO2: dripping with sarcasm: People don't realize the size of the Austin-San Antonio corridor until they witness it. It has virtually become one continuous city. I live in Indianapolis and there are 3 teams closer to me than any Texas team is to San Antonio. And I really don't live in a hotbed for pro football. There is a definite market in SA, but the Chargers? I think the Jags should be the team. That was a mistake to put them there. Besides, SA/Hou would be a good rivalry.

I don't think Jerry Jones would be open to the idea of any team, whether it's the Chargers or Jag-you-ares (as pronounced by many TV idiots), moving to Texas.


For the right bribe maybe, but I'd think there are enough markets that wouldn't require a bribe that potential owners would just avoid Texas.
 
2013-02-18 02:17:35 PM
California has 3 NFL teams, New York has 3 NFL teams, and Florida also has 3 NFL teams. Well Texas Governor Rick Perry thinks there could be a home for a third NFL team in San Antonio.

It still boggles my mind how Missouri has two NFL teams.
 
2013-02-18 03:37:00 PM

oh_please: Komplex: In addition, California doesn't have any money to spend on stadiums or stupid shiat like that.

Yeah, I haven't followed the whole thing super closely, but it seems like Spanos wants to keep the team in SD. The problem is that the stadium was built in 1967 as a multipurpose Padres/Chargers facility, which was the trend at the time, but all of those types of stadiums (except Oakland?) have long been torn down, because they don't really suit the modern business model of lots of seats in optimal sight lines and luxury boxes. The last time I was there, ~20 years ago, it was really showing it's age, and frankly I'm surprised it still exists.

I'll probably shed a couple tears when it finally gets demolished, because when Ray Kroc owned the Padres, he did everything he could to get kids in the stands. He partnered with 7-Up for a deal where a kid could get a bleacher seat for 10 games for $10(!) and we roamed that stadium as if it were our own. Plus, after the 5th inning or so, we'd sneak down to field level seats...the ushers would look the other way and do everything but whistle innocently as we "snuck" past them. We thought we were pretty badass for doing that.

/CSB


There isn't a single town in Southern California that is going to build a stadium for the team with public money.

The downtown LA stadium is a done deal though, they just need a team to commit and they can break ground the same month. The Chargers are banking on people in San Diego seeing that and ponying up the dough but there's no appetite after they got burned with the Padres. Chargers are gone in 2 years at most.
 
2013-02-18 03:40:05 PM

LessO2: Jag-you-ares (as pronounced by many TV idiots)


And much of the rest of the world.

But you just go ahead and keep pronouncing it Jag-wire.
 
2013-02-18 03:46:32 PM

Kyosuke: LessO2: Jag-you-ares (as pronounced by many TV idiots)

And much of the rest of the world.

But you just go ahead and keep pronouncing it Jag-wire.


I thought it was Jag-wharrrrrrrrrrrrs
 
2013-02-18 03:53:44 PM

dripping with sarcasm: iamskibibitz: You could build a stadium in New Braunfels or San Marcos and draw from both Austin and San Antonio. If you combine both markets you're talking about well over 3 million people and a top 15 media market that's served by a whopping ONE pro-sports team. And thanks to Prop 30, California residents and businesses are moving to Texas in droves. Texas is 1.3 trillion dollar economy with 8 major pro teams. California's economy is bigger at 1.9 trillion but they have almost double the number of pro sports teams. Even Florida, whose economy is significantly smaller than Texas' has more pro sports teams than Texas.

People don't realize the size of the Austin-San Antonio corridor until they witness it. It has virtually become one continuous city. I live in Indianapolis and there are 3 teams closer to me than any Texas team is to San Antonio. And I really don't live in a hotbed for pro football. There is a definite market in SA, but the Chargers? I think the Jags should be the team. That was a mistake to put them there. Besides, SA/Hou would be a good rivalry.


I would hate to see New Braunfels marred with a pro football stadium.

Oh and Jerry will never let any NFL team settle in Austin, San Antonio, Oklahoma, or New Mexico. Maybe Arizona could get a team or somethin.
 
2013-02-18 04:08:40 PM

poughdrew: Why not Mexico City?


Yeah it's funny in madden when out of the blue a team decides to move there.
 
2013-02-18 04:51:42 PM

Lunchlady: there's no appetite after they got burned with the Padres


FARKING THIS! Yep, as soon as they got Petco, it was fire sale/AA league time, and it hasn't changed since. I really do think it's different with the Chargers, the Spanos(es) want to keep the team there but the taxpayers won't get fooled again, and there's no money to build a new stadium. It just sucks.
 
2013-02-19 06:06:55 PM
Voters in Mexico City aren't dumb enough to raise their own taxes and give the money to billionaires so they can build a stadium for millionaires to play in.
 
2013-02-20 12:22:08 PM

Anonymocoso: Voters in Mexico City aren't dumb enough to raise their own taxes and give the money to billionaires so they can build a stadium for millionaires to play in.


Yeah, I'm sure this bad boy just sprouted out of the ground for free
 
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