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2013-02-18 12:04:18 AM  
Hey, maybe he was going over best places to hide.
 
2013-02-18 12:09:10 AM  
I'd love to hear him explain why he thought this was a good idea?
 
2013-02-18 12:13:14 AM  

davidphogan: I'd love to hear him explain why he thought this was a good idea?


He was probably just teaching them why they should join the NRA.
 
2013-02-18 01:10:43 AM  
What exactly did he do wrong?
 
2013-02-18 01:14:14 AM  
It's hard to explain things to kids.

Why did the bad man hurt those people? Because he was crazy! Why was he crazy? Because he had a chemical imbalance. Why? Because he was born that way.

/ so, maybe this guy was trying to contextualize what happened at sandy hook in a way the kids could understand. Shoulda known better not to use pretend firearms
 
2013-02-18 01:14:48 AM  
Those poor kids.

They went to the school library and all they got are a few magazines.
 
2013-02-18 01:15:15 AM  
LOL! That is hilarious.
 
2013-02-18 01:16:05 AM  
JesusJuice: What exactly did he do wrong?

left witnesses
 
2013-02-18 01:17:52 AM  

JesusJuice: What exactly did he do wrong?


Became a band teacher.
 
2013-02-18 01:21:28 AM  
grungepaintball.com

Should've just used one of these...
 
2013-02-18 01:25:05 AM  

RatMaster999: [grungepaintball.com image 810x294]

Should've just used one of these...


An aluminum club?
 
2013-02-18 01:25:28 AM  
Overprotecting kids is not a good idea. They'll grow up to be weaklings who get scared easily. When the time comes that they are being bullied or threatened, all they'd do is open their mouths ready to suck whatever the bad villains can shove there.
 
2013-02-18 01:27:11 AM  

GreenSun: Overprotecting kids is not a good idea. They'll grow up to be weaklings who get scared easily. When the time comes that they are being bullied or threatened, all they'd do is open their mouths ready to suck whatever the bad villains can shove there.


You have odd views regarding children.
 
2013-02-18 01:28:29 AM  
So... He tried to teach children how to protect themselves by hiding from an active shooter?  He used a game to communicate with children....the need to hide, rather than be shot?!?  He tried to educate children, in the only way they would understand, how to protect themselves in the worst case scenario ?!?!  We should totally execute that guy!!!!
 
2013-02-18 01:34:28 AM  

davidphogan: I'd love to hear him explain why he thought this was a good idea?


I love to read an article that has a damn detail or two.
 
2013-02-18 01:35:43 AM  
It doesn't speak highly of a town when even the charter schools are crazy.
 
2013-02-18 01:39:15 AM  

mikaloyd: GreenSun: Overprotecting kids is not a good idea. They'll grow up to be weaklings who get scared easily. When the time comes that they are being bullied or threatened, all they'd do is open their mouths ready to suck whatever the bad villains can shove there.

You have odd views regarding children.


Generations before this were taught all about guns. Some of them brought rifles to class to go hunting afterwards, some schools even had gun clubs on campus. Result? The greatest generation fought world war 2, before that they colonized the west, before that they fought a civil war, before that they had the audacity to sail across an unknown ocean to a new land.

Now? We are so afraid of telling them things that they dont do shiat, they accomplish shiat.
 
2013-02-18 01:42:40 AM  
the guy is a band director subbing as a 1st grade PE teacher. what does this exercise have to do with PE? i can't even remember 1st grade gym class, but i'm pretty sure we never played hide and seek. and it hardly seems like the time or place to discuss shootings.
 
2013-02-18 01:45:59 AM  

atomicmask: mikaloyd: GreenSun: Overprotecting kids is not a good idea. They'll grow up to be weaklings who get scared easily. When the time comes that they are being bullied or threatened, all they'd do is open their mouths ready to suck whatever the bad villains can shove there.

You have odd views regarding children.

Generations before this were taught all about guns. Some of them brought rifles to class to go hunting afterwards, some schools even had gun clubs on campus. Result? The greatest generation fought world war 2, before that they colonized the west, before that they fought a civil war, before that they had the audacity to sail across an unknown ocean to a new land.

Now? We are so afraid of telling them things that they dont do shiat, they accomplish shiat.


Sort of like not talking about contraception, and wondering why teens get pregnant.
 
2013-02-18 01:47:47 AM  

wallywam1: davidphogan: I'd love to hear him explain why he thought this was a good idea?

I love to read an article that has a damn detail or two.


That would be nice.
 
2013-02-18 01:48:03 AM  
You know what would really scare the shiat out of those kids? If someone burst in and shot a lot of them with a Mac-10!
 
2013-02-18 01:48:28 AM  

atomicmask: mikaloyd: GreenSun: Overprotecting kids is not a good idea. They'll grow up to be weaklings who get scared easily. When the time comes that they are being bullied or threatened, all they'd do is open their mouths ready to suck whatever the bad villains can shove there.

You have odd views regarding children.

Generations before this were taught all about guns. Some of them brought rifles to class to go hunting afterwards, some schools even had gun clubs on campus. Result? The greatest generation fought world war 2, before that they colonized the west, before that they fought a civil war, before that they had the audacity to sail across an unknown ocean to a new land.

Now? We are so afraid of telling them things that they dont do shiat, they accomplish shiat.


Not that part. The part where you were sticking things in their mouths.
 
2013-02-18 01:49:16 AM  
He wasn't educating the kids about anything. He was a substitute teacher, who decided to have the kids play "hide-n-seek" instead of doing what they were supposed to be doing. He was the one "seeking". As he found each kid, he did the index finger and thumb "Bang, you're dead".
 
2013-02-18 01:55:18 AM  

davidphogan: wallywam1: davidphogan: I'd love to hear him explain why he thought this was a good idea?

I love to read an article that has a damn detail or two.

That would be nice.


i thought this at first, but what more detail do you need? ignore the sandy shiat. this is a guy that has no idea what he's doing (can't blame him i guess). he decided to have the kids play hide and seek. for physical education. oof.

the whole sandy hook theme makes the whole thing even more weird and unnecessary.
 
2013-02-18 01:57:02 AM  
Gosh. I hope those kids take advantage of the counseling being offered. I'd hate to think that one of these snowflakes was severely traumatized.
 
2013-02-18 01:58:44 AM  

fourthsword: So... He tried to teach children how to protect themselves by hiding from an active shooter?  He used a game to communicate with children....the need to hide, rather than be shot?!?  He tried to educate children, in the only way they would understand, how to protect themselves in the worst case scenario ?!?!  We should totally execute that guy!!!!


Even assuming you are not trolling, there is a time, place and manner for such lessons. This was neither the appropriate time, nor the proper place, nor the correct manner, for such a lesson; and a band teacher subbing for the regular PE teacher is hardly the ideal person to be conveying such a lesson.
 
2013-02-18 02:00:05 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Gosh. I hope those kids take advantage of the counseling being offered. I'd hate to think that one of these snowflakes was severely traumatized.


We should watch for tell-tale signs... like, say, the score on their point & shoot video games dropping off in the next week or two.
 
2013-02-18 02:00:46 AM  
Still less violent than slaughterball in PE
 
2013-02-18 02:01:57 AM  

Gyrfalcon: fourthsword: So... He tried to teach children how to protect themselves by hiding from an active shooter?  He used a game to communicate with children....the need to hide, rather than be shot?!?  He tried to educate children, in the only way they would understand, how to protect themselves in the worst case scenario ?!?!  We should totally execute that guy!!!!

Even assuming you are not trolling, there is a time, place and manner for such lessons. This was neither the appropriate time, nor the proper place, nor the correct manner, for such a lesson; and a band teacher subbing for the regular PE teacher is hardly the ideal person to be conveying such a lesson.


Yeah. Kids never play bang-bang games for fun on the playground or in their own backyards! The inhuMANity! Mah goodness, the vapahs ah makin' mah knees all afluttah!
 
2013-02-18 02:04:15 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Gyrfalcon: fourthsword: So... He tried to teach children how to protect themselves by hiding from an active shooter?  He used a game to communicate with children....the need to hide, rather than be shot?!?  He tried to educate children, in the only way they would understand, how to protect themselves in the worst case scenario ?!?!  We should totally execute that guy!!!!

Even assuming you are not trolling, there is a time, place and manner for such lessons. This was neither the appropriate time, nor the proper place, nor the correct manner, for such a lesson; and a band teacher subbing for the regular PE teacher is hardly the ideal person to be conveying such a lesson.

Yeah. Kids never play bang-bang games for fun on the playground or in their own backyards! The inhuMANity! Mah goodness, the vapahs ah makin' mah knees all afluttah!


you are describing recess. this is gym class.
 
2013-02-18 02:04:23 AM  

atomicmask: mikaloyd: GreenSun: Overprotecting kids is not a good idea. They'll grow up to be weaklings who get scared easily. When the time comes that they are being bullied or threatened, all they'd do is open their mouths ready to suck whatever the bad villains can shove there.

You have odd views regarding children.

Generations before this were taught all about guns. Some of them brought rifles to class to go hunting afterwards, some schools even had gun clubs on campus. Result? The greatest generation fought world war 2, before that they colonized the west, before that they fought a civil war, before that they had the audacity to sail across an unknown ocean to a new land.

Now? We are so afraid of telling them things that they dont do shiat, they accomplish shiat.


I got a varsity letter for being on the rifle team in high school.  Graduated in 1996.
 
2013-02-18 02:10:37 AM  
anyone here play backboard bombardment in school?

dodgeball with nerf footballs played on a basketball court. anytime you hit the backboard one eliminated player gets back in the game. if you make one through the hoop the whole team refreshes. best game ever.
 
2013-02-18 02:11:16 AM  
Read the comments on there, all the nutjobs think what he did was perfectly fine!
 
2013-02-18 02:11:38 AM  

mikaloyd: Still less violent than slaughterball in PE


I thought I was the only survivor
 
2013-02-18 02:12:17 AM  
It's no more than a modern version of "got your nose."
 
2013-02-18 02:14:31 AM  

Notabunny: mikaloyd: Still less violent than slaughterball in PE

I thought I was the only survivor


I too have played slaughterball and still bear the wounds and haunted memories of 100 mph volleyballs pummelling me
 
2013-02-18 02:16:14 AM  

Insurgent: anyone here play backboard bombardment in school?

dodgeball with nerf footballs played on a basketball court. anytime you hit the backboard one eliminated player gets back in the game. if you make one through the hoop the whole team refreshes. best game ever.


to clarify: the half-court line divided each team. and you had to hit the opposing team's backboard/hoop.
 
2013-02-18 02:17:50 AM  

mikaloyd: Notabunny: mikaloyd: Still less violent than slaughterball in PE

I thought I was the only survivor

I too have played slaughterball and still bear the wounds and haunted memories of 100 mph volleyballs pummelling me


It's where I learned what mortality means, and that Lord Of The Flies was a documentary
 
2013-02-18 02:19:38 AM  

Notabunny: mikaloyd: Notabunny: mikaloyd: Still less violent than slaughterball in PE

I thought I was the only survivor

I too have played slaughterball and still bear the wounds and haunted memories of 100 mph volleyballs pummelling me

It's where I learned what mortality means, and that Lord Of The Flies was a documentary


Indeed. Those are the fires that either prove you or burn you forever. Or both.
 
2013-02-18 02:25:43 AM  

Insurgent: you are describing recess. this is gym class.


Replacement gym class, which is "keep the kids active for 45 minutes by playing a game."
 
2013-02-18 02:27:23 AM  

Notabunny: mikaloyd: Still less violent than slaughterball in PE

I thought I was the only survivor


Being the smallest kid for years and years was actually an advantage. The bullies couldn't hit me when I curled up into a tiny ball behind someone bigger.
 
2013-02-18 02:28:22 AM  

Insurgent: Insurgent: anyone here play backboard bombardment in school?

dodgeball with nerf footballs played on a basketball court. anytime you hit the backboard one eliminated player gets back in the game. if you make one through the hoop the whole team refreshes. best game ever.

to clarify: the half-court line divided each team. and you had to hit the opposing team's backboard/hoop.


In slaughterball you use volleyballs pumped up extra hard for pain. And the entire basketball court is no mans land. Th only save zone is between the end of the basketball court and the end wall of the gymnasium. If one side gets all the volleyballs and has your side  against the wall they are twenty feet away blasting at you and collecting rebounds exploding off the wall behind you. Much blood is shed from noses and many volleyballs hit testicles in slaughterball. It is evil.
 
2013-02-18 02:28:37 AM  

Insurgent: davidphogan: wallywam1: davidphogan: I'd love to hear him explain why he thought this was a good idea?

I love to read an article that has a damn detail or two.

That would be nice.

i thought this at first, but what more detail do you need? ignore the sandy shiat. this is a guy that has no idea what he's doing (can't blame him i guess). he decided to have the kids play hide and seek. for physical education. oof.

the whole sandy hook theme makes the whole thing even more weird and unnecessary.


Enough articles turn out to be a total load of shiat that I'd like to start seeing the entire sorry instead of waiting for a follow up.
 
2013-02-18 02:30:46 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Notabunny: mikaloyd: Still less violent than slaughterball in PE

I thought I was the only survivor

Being the smallest kid for years and years was actually an advantage. The bullies couldn't hit me when I curled up into a tiny ball behind someone bigger.


Amen, brother. When I graduated from high school I was 6'00" and weighed 104lbs. All I had to do was turn sideways and I'd disappear.
 
2013-02-18 02:31:01 AM  

davidphogan: I'd love to hear him explain why he thought this was a good idea?


There are 7.2 million teachers in the US.  Thanks to statistics its guaranteed that a certain percentage of them are completely fark'n nuts.  I'm surprise we don't see more of these stories every day.
 
2013-02-18 02:39:42 AM  

phrawgh: It's no more than a modern version of "got your nose."


Hey, what the--? SHIAT, GIVE IT BACK ASSHOLE!
 
2013-02-18 02:47:10 AM  
Yea, fark public schools.

If it's not communist teachers trying to infect the kids mind, it's some asshole trying to shoot them/steal their ipod/make sexy time with them.
 
2013-02-18 02:52:40 AM  
He should have used another approach to get the point across.   In other news, the USA is turning into a bunch of liberal, pansy, non offensive douche bags! This is what we are raising to lead our country's future?? We have become a nation of candy assess.

Remember the good old days when kids played games involving dying of black plague?
 
2013-02-18 03:03:22 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Insurgent: you are describing recess. this is gym class.

Replacement gym class, which is "keep the kids active for 45 minutes by playing a game."


a game that involves sitting or standing still for as long as you can. again, how is this physical education? the goal is to find the best way to avoid physical activity.
 
2013-02-18 03:09:39 AM  

davidphogan: Insurgent: davidphogan: wallywam1: davidphogan: I'd love to hear him explain why he thought this was a good idea?

I love to read an article that has a damn detail or two.

That would be nice.

i thought this at first, but what more detail do you need? ignore the sandy shiat. this is a guy that has no idea what he's doing (can't blame him i guess). he decided to have the kids play hide and seek. for physical education. oof.

the whole sandy hook theme makes the whole thing even more weird and unnecessary.

Enough articles turn out to be a total load of shiat that I'd like to start seeing the entire sorry instead of waiting for a follow up.


the source for the article is fox news, so you may be correct. the article has certainly inspired some very patriotic comments.

my theory is that fox published a legit story hoping that it would rile up gun owners. reasonable people will realize that this substitute teacher was out of line.
 
2013-02-18 03:14:17 AM  

Insurgent: Lenny_da_Hog: Insurgent: you are describing recess. this is gym class.

Replacement gym class, which is "keep the kids active for 45 minutes by playing a game."

a game that involves sitting or standing still for as long as you can. again, how is this physical education? the goal is to find the best way to avoid physical activity.


It *isn't*. It's a music teacher playing with the kids for a little while because the gym teacher is out and they have to do *something* with the kids for that time.

Just like when a sub teacher walks in and sits at the desk and tells you to study or something for that class for the day. OMG! He's not teaching us biology! Burn him!" Big deal.
 
2013-02-18 03:22:15 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Insurgent: Lenny_da_Hog: Insurgent: you are describing recess. this is gym class.

Replacement gym class, which is "keep the kids active for 45 minutes by playing a game."

a game that involves sitting or standing still for as long as you can. again, how is this physical education? the goal is to find the best way to avoid physical activity.

It *isn't*. It's a music teacher playing with the kids for a little while because the gym teacher is out and they have to do *something* with the kids for that time.

Just like when a sub teacher walks in and sits at the desk and tells you to study or something for that class for the day. OMG! He's not teaching us biology! Burn him!" Big deal.


yes. the instructor was being lazy. what about the sandy hook part? is that liberal mouthpiece known as fox news making shiat up?
 
2013-02-18 03:35:18 AM  
Q: Why was the pirate crumpy?

A: He had a Sandy Hook!
 
2013-02-18 03:38:24 AM  
Seriously, that was one of the shiattiest, most uninformative articles I've seen in awhile. It's like a Fark comment that someone got paid for. Why was he playing hide and seek? What kind of "training" is this teacher undergoing that could possibly have any bearing on this? What was he "trying to teach them about Sandy Hook"? It's like this dude skimmed the news, re-posted about 1/10 of what he read, and then decided that counted as "reporting" the story.

At least the linked source story is a little better. This shiat reminds me of that "Yahoo Contributor" garbage we get saddled with, where they let any moron with a keyboard pretend to be a journalist, saving themselves a ton of money while deluding people into the mistaken belief that "anybody" can write news...
 
2013-02-18 03:39:15 AM  
"The suspended teacher will have to undergo training, while the kids have been offered counselling."

Counselling? Really? 'Cuz a teacher pointed a finger at you and went, "bang?" Really? No wonder kids today are a bunch of bed-wetting sissies.
 
2013-02-18 03:45:25 AM  

atomicmask: some schools even had gun clubs on campus.


Yep, We had a shooting course, on campus, where they provided us with rifles(bolt action .22s). And at the rural high school in my home town, it wasn't unusual to see rifle racks in the back windows of pickups...with a rifle or shotgun in it. And this was in the early to mid '80s.

WTH has happened to people in the last 20 years that causes them to crap their pants every time they see a firearm?
 
2013-02-18 04:09:55 AM  
familyguycutaways.com

Don't even try to run.  Don't try to hide.

Gary the No-Trash Cougar WILL find you!
 
2013-02-18 04:15:14 AM  

PacManDreaming: atomicmask: some schools even had gun clubs on campus.

Yep, We had a shooting course, on campus, where they provided us with rifles(bolt action .22s). And at the rural high school in my home town, it wasn't unusual to see rifle racks in the back windows of pickups...with a rifle or shotgun in it. And this was in the early to mid '80s.

WTH has happened to people in the last 20 years that causes them to crap their pants every time they see a firearm?


Idunno. Lots of death?
 
2013-02-18 05:39:51 AM  

Notabunny: PacManDreaming: atomicmask: some schools even had gun clubs on campus.

Yep, We had a shooting course, on campus, where they provided us with rifles(bolt action .22s). And at the rural high school in my home town, it wasn't unusual to see rifle racks in the back windows of pickups...with a rifle or shotgun in it. And this was in the early to mid '80s.

WTH has happened to people in the last 20 years that causes them to crap their pants every time they see a firearm?

Idunno. Lots of death?


Statistically speaking, there are fewer deaths.

/But we do have 24 hour non stop news coverage of those deaths...
 
2013-02-18 05:50:55 AM  

way south: /But we do have 24 hour non stop news coverage of those deaths...


I imagine Hitler might've won if people here had been watching CNN during WWII.
 
2013-02-18 07:13:00 AM  
Are they traumatized yet?  It's unethical to stick a mic in their face until they're traumatized.
 
2013-02-18 07:31:28 AM  

RatMaster999: way south: /But we do have 24 hour non stop news coverage of those deaths...

I imagine Hitler might've won if people here had been watching CNN during WWII.




He was a master of media manipulation in his day.
I agree.
 
2013-02-18 09:16:22 AM  

RatMaster999: Should've just used one of these...


AK-47. Niiice!
 
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2013-02-18 09:55:48 AM  
I remember my teacher talking about school killings in second grade (1970s). It was a lesson in how some people aren't nice. I thought he was a cool teacher but he didn't last. Conservative town.

We also learned how to draw classic cars in that class. Unfortunately I did not retain the skill.
 
2013-02-18 10:18:02 AM  

davidphogan: I'd love to hear him explain why he thought this was a good idea?


fourthsword: So... He tried to teach children how to protect themselves by hiding from an active shooter?  He used a game to communicate with children....the need to hide, rather than be shot?!?  He tried to educate children, in the only way they would understand, how to protect themselves in the worst case scenario ?!?!  We should totally execute that guy!!!!


meh
 
2013-02-18 12:10:45 PM  

way south: Notabunny: PacManDreaming: atomicmask: some schools even had gun clubs on campus.

Yep, We had a shooting course, on campus, where they provided us with rifles(bolt action .22s). And at the rural high school in my home town, it wasn't unusual to see rifle racks in the back windows of pickups...with a rifle or shotgun in it. And this was in the early to mid '80s.

WTH has happened to people in the last 20 years that causes them to crap their pants every time they see a firearm?

Idunno. Lots of death?

Statistically speaking, there are fewer deaths.

/But we do have 24 hour non stop news coverage of those deaths...


So the problem isn't lots of deaths, but rather that we know there are lots of deaths?
 
2013-02-18 12:14:49 PM  
<b>subby</b>:

i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-18 12:33:13 PM  

Notabunny: way south: Notabunny: PacManDreaming: atomicmask: some schools even had gun clubs on campus.

Yep, We had a shooting course, on campus, where they provided us with rifles(bolt action .22s). And at the rural high school in my home town, it wasn't unusual to see rifle racks in the back windows of pickups...with a rifle or shotgun in it. And this was in the early to mid '80s.

WTH has happened to people in the last 20 years that causes them to crap their pants every time they see a firearm?

Idunno. Lots of death?

Statistically speaking, there are fewer deaths.

/But we do have 24 hour non stop news coverage of those deaths...

So the problem isn't lots of deaths, but rather that we know there are lots of deaths?




Fear is based on the perception of danger.
Media makes money by exaggerating the risks.

Crime is down, by the numbers, but people are more fearful than ever.
So, yes, ignorance can be its own kind of bliss. We used to live in a much more dangerous society but saw no need for gun laws. The danger didn't affect most of the nation, it rarely heard about it.
The felt benefits of gun ownership outweigh the risks even more than they used to. But that isn't what you're told on the news.
You get a drumbeat of constant violence and danger.

It's safer now than it used to be, but everyone's afraid to go outside.
 
2013-02-18 12:34:01 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Gosh. I hope those kids take advantage of the counseling being offered. I'd hate to think that one of these snowflakes was severely traumatized.


Someone formed a gun shape with their hand and said "bang" here at work a while ago.  I had to take a week off, and I'm still in therapy.
 
2013-02-18 12:36:34 PM  

PacManDreaming: atomicmask: some schools even had gun clubs on campus.

Yep, We had a shooting course, on campus, where they provided us with rifles(bolt action .22s). And at the rural high school in my home town, it wasn't unusual to see rifle racks in the back windows of pickups...with a rifle or shotgun in it. And this was in the early to mid '80s.

WTH has happened to people in the last 20 years that causes them to crap their pants every time they see a firearm?

 a shooting spree is re-enacted for 6 year olds by a stranger brandishing a fake gun at them.


\Your usual teacher is sick so I'll be taking over the health class today.  Now, who'd like to come up and allow me to demonstrate a breast exam?
 
2013-02-18 01:16:13 PM  

way south: Notabunny: way south: Notabunny: PacManDreaming: atomicmask: some schools even had gun clubs on campus.

Yep, We had a shooting course, on campus, where they provided us with rifles(bolt action .22s). And at the rural high school in my home town, it wasn't unusual to see rifle racks in the back windows of pickups...with a rifle or shotgun in it. And this was in the early to mid '80s.

WTH has happened to people in the last 20 years that causes them to crap their pants every time they see a firearm?

Idunno. Lots of death?

Statistically speaking, there are fewer deaths.

/But we do have 24 hour non stop news coverage of those deaths...

So the problem isn't lots of deaths, but rather that we know there are lots of deaths?

Fear is based on the perception of danger.
Media makes money by exaggerating the risks.

Crime is down, by the numbers, but people are more fearful than ever.
So, yes, ignorance can be its own kind of bliss. We used to live in a much more dangerous society but saw no need for gun laws. The danger didn't affect most of the nation, it rarely heard about it.
The felt benefits of gun ownership outweigh the risks even more than they used to. But that isn't what you're told on the news.
You get a drumbeat of constant violence and danger.

It's safer now than it used to be, but everyone's afraid to go outside.


i think I heard that the CDC said there are something like 31,000 gun-related deaths in the US annually. Whether that number is going up, down, or isn't moving is irrelevant. That's a lot of deaths. Also, individual gun-related deaths and annual totals have been reported for decades. It's hardly a topic for which anyone can claim ignorance.
 
2013-02-18 01:46:39 PM  
Probably not an age appropriate activity.  Maybe the PE teacher should have left sub plans.
 
2013-02-18 07:56:22 PM  
Well, that certainly was odd, I see.
 
2013-02-18 09:03:20 PM  

Notabunny: way south: Notabunny: way south: Notabunny: PacManDreaming: atomicmask: some schools even had gun clubs on campus.

Yep, We had a shooting course, on campus, where they provided us with rifles(bolt action .22s). And at the rural high school in my home town, it wasn't unusual to see rifle racks in the back windows of pickups...with a rifle or shotgun in it. And this was in the early to mid '80s.

WTH has happened to people in the last 20 years that causes them to crap their pants every time they see a firearm?

Idunno. Lots of death?

Statistically speaking, there are fewer deaths.

/But we do have 24 hour non stop news coverage of those deaths...

So the problem isn't lots of deaths, but rather that we know there are lots of deaths?

Fear is based on the perception of danger.
Media makes money by exaggerating the risks.

Crime is down, by the numbers, but people are more fearful than ever.
So, yes, ignorance can be its own kind of bliss. We used to live in a much more dangerous society but saw no need for gun laws. The danger didn't affect most of the nation, it rarely heard about it.
The felt benefits of gun ownership outweigh the risks even more than they used to. But that isn't what you're told on the news.
You get a drumbeat of constant violence and danger.

It's safer now than it used to be, but everyone's afraid to go outside.

i think I heard that the CDC said there are something like 31,000 gun-related deaths in the US annually. Whether that number is going up, down, or isn't moving is irrelevant. That's a lot of deaths. Also, individual gun-related deaths and annual totals have been reported for decades. It's hardly a topic for which anyone can claim ignorance.


About as many people are taken out by drunk drivers, and two thirds of that lot aren't suicidal or involved in criminal activities at the time.
These numbers are also published and you'd think its a well known thing, but you don't see many people avoiding cars or begging for solutions.

/You might if every news venue was highlighting the damage that alcoholics cause to this nation.
/There was a time when they did, and the result of public outcry and political action was prohibition.
/Things got worse, people realized the cure was more disastrous than the disease, and the laws were repealed.
/Moral of the story: Knowing the statistics doesn't mean you understand the true nature of your problem.
 
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