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		School shooting massacre averted. List found targeting six elementary school students including one girl because she was annoying. Suspects are two ten-year-olds who brought a gun and knife to school (articles.latimes.com)		208
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gja		2013-02-17 10:51:46 PM

BigBurrito		2013-02-17 11:05:15 PM

FTA: "To me, 10- and 11-year-olds do bad things," he said. "They throw rocks through windows. They shoot BB guns at people's cars. They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. Those are things that children do. But this was a plot to kill."

Is this really a thing? Cats on fire? What the hell is wrong with people.

Dinki		2013-02-17 11:08:22 PM

BigBurrito: FTA: "To me, 10- and 11-year-olds do bad things," he said. "They throw rocks through windows. They shoot BB guns at people's cars. They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. Those are things that children do. But this was a plot to kill."

Is this really a thing? Cats on fire? What the hell is wrong with people.

You can pretty much bet that any kid that sets cats on fire is going to end up killing people later in life.

Lsherm		2013-02-18 12:06:07 AM

Dinki: BigBurrito: FTA: "To me, 10- and 11-year-olds do bad things," he said. "They throw rocks through windows. They shoot BB guns at people's cars. They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. Those are things that children do. But this was a plot to kill."

Is this really a thing? Cats on fire? What the hell is wrong with people.

You can pretty much bet that any kid that sets cats on fire is going to end up killing people later in life.

Pretty much, but people are delusional about kids these days.

DarkLancelot		2013-02-18 12:07:19 AM

BigBurrito: FTA: "To me, 10- and 11-year-olds do bad things," he said. "They throw rocks through windows. They shoot BB guns at people's cars. They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. Those are things that children do. But this was a plot to kill."

Is this really a thing? Cats on fire? What the hell is wrong with people.

Glad I wasn't the only one that noticed that. "They do kid's stuff. Set the cat on fire. Rain thermonuclear death over our neighbors. You know, kid's stuff."

quatchi		2013-02-18 12:08:34 AM

"I was going to kill her with the knife and [the other boy] was supposed to use the gun to keep anyone from trying to stop me or mess up our plan," the older boy told detectives.

That's purely farked up. Why stab and not just shoot?

The older boy said he had been friends with the girl for several months "but that he hated her now." He said the girl "had recently become rude and would pick on him."

Ah, it's personal.

davidphogan		2013-02-18 12:16:04 AM

BigBurrito: FTA: "To me, 10- and 11-year-olds do bad things," he said. "They throw rocks through windows. They shoot BB guns at people's cars. They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. Those are things that children do. But this was a plot to kill."

Is this really a thing? Cats on fire? What the hell is wrong with people.

Rural Washington is not right. It's a state that had to pass a law against having sex with animals because of Mr. Hands.

Relatively Obscure		2013-02-18 12:31:39 AM

"To me, 10- and 11-year-olds do bad things," he said. "They throw rocks through windows. They shoot BB guns at people's cars. They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. [...]"

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unlikely		2013-02-18 12:52:19 AM

How many of these school killers were first bully targets? Like what percentage?

Just curious.

Amos Quito		2013-02-18 01:11:22 AM

I blame the knife.

vygramul		2013-02-18 01:40:17 AM

The assault weapons ban would have prevented this.

The My Little Pony Killer		2013-02-18 01:41:14 AM

"This was a plan. And it was a plan to kill,"

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quatchi		2013-02-18 01:42:37 AM

vygramul: The assault weapons ban would have prevented this.

Nope, but a gun lock and a responsible gun owner might have.

Would love to be a fly on the wall when they haul in whoever's gun this was and ask how this 10 yo stole his gun.

GAT_00		2013-02-18 01:46:43 AM

quatchi: Nope

That was his point.

But nobody has ever pretended that an AWB bill would solve everything. And it's pretty clear at this point that we can't simply tell gun owners to be more responsible and think we've solved all the rest of the problems.

L.D. Ablo		2013-02-18 02:16:14 AM

Whatever happened to ostracizing, humiliating and making fun of the unpopular?

/back in my day...

quatchi		2013-02-18 02:39:52 AM

GAT_00: quatchi: Nope

That was his point.

But nobody has ever pretended that an AWB bill would solve everything. And it's pretty clear at this point that we can't simply tell gun owners to be more responsible and think we've solved all the rest of the problems.

In point of fact I don't give a flying fart about the AWB. I've hoped since the beginning that this was just a chip on the table that will be taken off the table at some point and traded for of more money for mental health care (Which the NRA itself now endorses ,you'll note) and closing the gun sale loophole. The brick and mortar gun guys want to see the loophole closed as it forces more people into their big box ergo the GOP gets to say they stopped the AWB, more crazy folks get help, the loophole gets closed clearing up a grey area that's been rife for abuse and maybe dampening the more gung-ho nutty portions of the gun culture and hte cops get a better database to do their jobs. Some common sense registration stuff would be a cherry on the top there but regardless in that scenario everybody gets to say they've won and things get not perfect but better. This is what I hope.

/It should probably be noted that I'm also hoping for a hot steamy night-long romp with Scar Jo and Rachel Weiss later on this evening but that probably isn't gonna happen.
//I hope for a lot of things.
///Right now I'm hoping there's still a piece of cherry pie inna fridge. Mmmm ...Pie.

Uchiha_Cycliste		2013-02-18 02:46:55 AM

I think I would love to see a ten year old try to shoot a .45

IlGreven		2013-02-18 02:48:46 AM

DarkLancelot: BigBurrito: FTA: "To me, 10- and 11-year-olds do bad things," he said. "They throw rocks through windows. They shoot BB guns at people's cars. They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. Those are things that children do. But this was a plot to kill."

Is this really a thing? Cats on fire? What the hell is wrong with people.

Glad I wasn't the only one that noticed that. "They do kid's stuff. Set the cat on fire. Rain thermonuclear death over our neighbors. You know, kid's stuff."

Hell, I was wondering what kind of kid shot BB guns at people's cars, myself...

DarkSoulNoHope		2013-02-18 02:49:13 AM

I'm going to math class, COVER ME!

mikaloyd		2013-02-18 02:49:28 AM

BigBurrito: FTA: "To me, 10- and 11-year-olds do bad things," he said. "They throw rocks through windows. They shoot BB guns at people's cars. They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. Those are things that children do. But this was a plot to kill."

Is this really a thing? Cats on fire? What the hell is wrong with people.

Cats are not worshipped as much in Hillbilly Holler Washington as they are on FARK. Its a regional thing.

Giltric		2013-02-18 02:50:55 AM

The firearm doesn't create the disregard for human life.
People are broken...address that first before more firearm legislation.

namatad		2013-02-18 02:51:22 AM

School authorities said two fifth-grade boys planned to use the weapons to lure another student outside the school and kill her "because she was really annoying."
We are experiencing the end of the US.

Charge the kids and the parents. Charge the school as co-conspirators. Clearly the school allowed the weapons into the school. They must have been part of the plan. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Seriously.

How does this not continue to escalate?
OR is this just national awareness of "minor" events?
How many events like this have there been, by year, for the last 50 years?
How many events like this are never reported and dealt with locally without getting national full blown media nutty?
Over the last 50 years, we can assume that the reporting has changed, right?

wildsnowllama		2013-02-18 02:51:24 AM

We've all made lists like this. I keep mine off paper, scratch it into my leg.

IlGreven		2013-02-18 02:51:27 AM

quatchi: mental health care (Which the NRA itself now endorses ,you'll note)

...no, they don't. They just say they do to take the heat off. But as long as they keep national health organizations and HMOs on their "enemies of the 2nd amendment" watchlist for deigning to have the opinion that perhaps fewer guns would save us millions in healthcare costs, don't believe it for a second.

adenosine		2013-02-18 02:54:32 AM

WTF Collville, are you trying to make Spokane look good?

strangeluck		2013-02-18 02:55:47 AM

"The plan was nipped in the bud by other students who saw something and said something," Cashion said.

LDM90		2013-02-18 02:57:20 AM

namatad: School authorities said two fifth-grade boys planned to use the weapons to lure another student outside the school and kill her "because she was really annoying."
We are experiencing the end of the US.

Charge the kids and the parents. Charge the school as co-conspirators. Clearly the school allowed the weapons into the school. They must have been part of the plan. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Seriously.

How does this not continue to escalate?
OR is this just national awareness of "minor" events?
How many events like this have there been, by year, for the last 50 years?
How many events like this are never reported and dealt with locally without getting national full blown media nutty?
Over the last 50 years, we can assume that the reporting has changed, right?

You forgot to say LOLOLOLOLOL.

Oh wait you got that covered.

mikaloyd		2013-02-18 02:58:01 AM

quatchi: "I was going to kill her with the knife and [the other boy] was supposed to use the gun to keep anyone from trying to stop me or mess up our plan," the older boy told detectives.

That's purely farked up. Why stab and not just shoot?

The older boy said he had been friends with the girl for several months "but that he hated her now." He said the girl "had recently become rude and would pick on him."

Ah, it's personal.

Girl troubles

quatchi		2013-02-18 02:59:02 AM

IlGreven: quatchi: mental health care (Which the NRA itself now endorses ,you'll note)

...no, they don't. They just say they do to take the heat off. But as long as they keep national health organizations and HMOs on their "enemies of the 2nd amendment" watchlist for deigning to have the opinion that perhaps fewer guns would save us millions in healthcare costs, don't believe it for a second.

The NRA used their ridiculous amount of power over Congress to prevent for years any studies being done linking mental health and gun violence. I'm aware of that. The enmity there goes back a ways. Just the fact that their shills had to come out and say it's part of the problem is a win at this point in the debate regardless of their actual position on the issue they have ostensibly come out for it.

The left can use that.

But yeah, your point that they are lying sacks of shiat when they say that stands.

I should have clarified.

Benevolent Misanthrope		2013-02-18 03:03:45 AM

To me, 10- and 11-year-olds do bad things," he said. "They throw rocks through windows. They shoot BB guns at people's cars. They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. Those are things that children do. But this was a plot to kill.

Put me in the "WTF??" Brigade on this. This guy was that kid who didn't know the difference between chucking a stone at a cat and setting it on fire. I bet he looked up dolls' dresses.

namatad		2013-02-18 03:06:28 AM

1) take the children from the parents - FOREVER
2) toss the parents in prison - FOREVER (also sterilize them, just in case)
3) the kids should probably be sterilized just to be safe
4) the kids should be moved to another part of the country or planet and never have contact with anyone who was in their life previously

seriously
when do we actually start doing things differently?
or do are we just willingly accepting a certain amount of shrinkage in the system?

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist		2013-02-18 03:07:23 AM

I'm starting to understand why nobody publicizes suicides because of the risk that others will do the same.

James F. Campbell		2013-02-18 03:09:10 AM

Children who set cats on fire should be executed.

/Not kidding.

namatad		2013-02-18 03:11:31 AM

When questioned separately shortly after the weapons were discovered, the boys admittedtheir plot, authorities said. "I was going to kill her with the knife and [the other boy] was supposed to use the gun to keep anyone from trying to stop me or mess up our plan," the older boy told detectives.

WHAT THE fark PARENTS?!!!
1) you NEVER EVER talk to the cops
2) did the "detectives" talk to the kids without the parents present? No parents = all charges will be dropped.
3) parents let the kids talk? ARE YOU INSANE??

ok, I stand by earlier posting.
remove the kids, life prison for the parents

super_grass		2013-02-18 03:11:39 AM

Children and family of gun owners and NRA supporters deserve be executed on pay-per-view with all the profits going to the relatives of the people being senselessly killed by guns in this country.

I'd watch the hell out of it and laugh myself to sleep every night knowing that those homicidal nut jobs are suffering like their victims.

*sigh*, a person can dream :)

TomD9938		2013-02-18 03:13:02 AM

Uchiha_Cycliste: I think I would love to see a ten year old try to shoot a .45

Yeah, my thought as well. And Remington 1911? Thought that was just Colt.

While nothing came of this incident, it still may be a good idea to put these two in a comfortable cage for the rest of their lives.

If we dont, and they finally go ahead and cause actual damage when they're 20 year old tweakers, people will ask why these two nut-bags werent coralled earlier.

JRoo		2013-02-18 03:14:06 AM

L.D. Ablo: Whatever happened to ostracizing, humiliating and making fun of the unpopular?

/back in my day...

Everyone victimized by people like you went crazy and bought guns.

Smoking GNU		2013-02-18 03:14:44 AM

America is broken.

TomD9938		2013-02-18 03:15:52 AM

super_grass		2013-02-18 03:17:57 AM

TomD9938: super_grass: Children and family of gun owners and NRA supporters deserve be executed on pay-per-view with all the profits going to the relatives of the people being senselessly killed by guns in this country.

I'd watch the hell out of it and laugh myself to sleep every night knowing that those homicidal nut jobs are suffering like their victims.

*sigh*, a person can dream :)

You need new material.

You need better ways to compensate for you lack of manhood.

Uchiha_Cycliste		2013-02-18 03:18:23 AM

TomD9938: Uchiha_Cycliste: I think I would love to see a ten year old try to shoot a .45

Yeah, my thought as well. And Remington 1911? Thought that was just Colt.

While nothing came of this incident, it still may be a good idea to put these two in a comfortable cage for the rest of their lives.

If we dont, and they finally go ahead and cause actual damage when they're 20 year old tweakers, people will ask why these two nut-bags werent coralled earlier.

Maybe, maybe not, What if they are just little shiats because of bad parents and we can get them better guardians? Otherwise you my be right.

\I imagine a little kid shooting a .45 to be a slap-sticky good time.

Satan's Dumptruck Driver		2013-02-18 03:18:39 AM

L.D. Ablo: Whatever happened to ostracizing, humiliating and making fun of the unpopular?

/back in my day...

Still happens. The difference is that kids can't fight back, or rather they are not allowed to push back to a reasonable degree. (Busted lip for example.) So it just builds, and builds, and builds....

Can't learn the boundaries of what is acceptable when you aren't allowed near them.

andynz81		2013-02-18 03:18:42 AM

America, you crazy.

GranoblasticMan		2013-02-18 03:19:05 AM

Smoking GNU: America is broken.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

The Snow Dog		2013-02-18 03:20:01 AM

The real story here is that our educational system is NOT failing. 10-year-olds organized enough to make lists? C'mon, it's gotta make yo u proud.

namatad		2013-02-18 03:21:34 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: I'm starting to understand why nobody publicizes suicides because of the risk that others will do the same.

sort of
but it also means that we dont do anything to change the system.

suicide - reporting on suicides without doing anything to deal with the underlying issues behind suicides ... well
at least if we start reporting them, there might be hope that we would deal with the health issue

mass shootings - is there any evidence that reporting leads to an increase? there will always be copycats and attention whores. my guess is that they dont really need the news to get ideas for their mass shooting or suicide missions. tv shows and movies should be enough ...

same for rape and murder and abuse and gay and the list goes on
without reporting on problems, problems never get fixed

perfect example is police corruption. how many police shootings happen each year which are never investigated properly. Of all the shootings, what percentage lead to an officer being charged AND convicted? What percentage SHOULD be charged? probably much higher that what happens ...

Oznog		2013-02-18 03:22:33 AM

But that's actually NOT as concrete as it sounds. Kids like to fantasize about lots of stuff, including violence. Certainly actually having a gun is a bad sign, but it's not conclusive that they were really going to do it.

I should be in the kitchen		2013-02-18 03:22:48 AM

Dinki: BigBurrito: FTA: "To me, 10- and 11-year-olds do bad things," he said. "They throw rocks through windows. They shoot BB guns at people's cars. They hit people with sticks, they set a cat on fire. Those are things that children do. But this was a plot to kill."

Is this really a thing? Cats on fire? What the hell is wrong with people.

You can pretty much bet that any kid that sets cats on fire is going to end up killing people later in life.

Yeah, this. Torturing animals is not a normal activity.

namatad		2013-02-18 03:23:51 AM

super_grass: Children and family of gun owners and NRA supporters deserve be executed on pay-per-view with all the profits going to the relatives of the people being senselessly killed by guns in this country.

I'd watch the hell out of it and laugh myself to sleep every night knowing that those homicidal nut jobs are suffering like their victims.

*sigh*, a person can dream :)

I have always argued that the death penalty should happen at noon on the stairs in front of city hall, broadcast live and free for everyone to see.
You want it to be a deterrent, people should actually see it.

/but but but

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom		2013-02-18 03:24:41 AM

super_grass: Children and family of gun owners and NRA supporters deserve be executed on pay-per-view with all the profits going to the relatives of the people being senselessly killed by guns in this country.

I'd watch the hell out of it and laugh myself to sleep every night knowing that those homicidal nut jobs are suffering like their victims.

*sigh*, a person can dream :)

Well that's a perfectly reasonable position. Best of luck to you on making it a reality.

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