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2013-02-18 12:01:18 AM  
Because nothing says awesome gaming like 320x240 graphics.....
 
2013-02-18 12:09:07 AM  

cretinbob: Because nothing says awesome gaming like 320x240 graphics.....


More like 1024x768.  Still, I'm not sure how cool this game could be..
 
2013-02-18 12:18:20 AM  
I was raised by Nintendo, and I never thought gaming would leave me behind. Whether or not it's this game or one in the future, I know I won't make the switch to gaming on touch screens. But we have a generation coming up that will be.
 
2013-02-18 12:20:46 AM  

Lsherm: cretinbob: Because nothing says awesome gaming like 320x240 graphics.....

More like 1024x768.  Still, I'm not sure how cool this game could be..


Yes, mobile displays are pretty decent, just small.

But tap/swipe interfaces? Hm. Good luck! I look forward to it in any event. (It's easy to drop money on lots of these mobile apps, even if they turn out to not be worth it, what the heck, it's not like you just spent $60 on the next Modern Special Ops Call of WarDuty FareCraft Apalooza 16.
 
2013-02-18 12:30:18 AM  
I love to play games where my thumbs are covering up a third of the screen. That makes sense.
 
2013-02-18 12:32:08 AM  
Turn based? Multi-player? Not sure I learned much about this upcoming game, except that it's launching on mobile devices. That isn't a whole lot of information.
 
2013-02-18 12:32:53 AM  
Because when I think Call of Duty, I think "creative" and "strategy."
 
2013-02-18 12:34:35 AM  
Cool: New tactical game being released. Awesome: developed by Call of Duty creative strategist. Bring me a change of pants false alarm, nothing to see here: game is coming directly to mobile devices

Just because you can't spend three seconds away from your smartphone doesn't mean they aren't still massively inferior to pretty much any other type electronic gaming platform currently being sold, subby.
 
2013-02-18 12:46:00 AM  
I wonder if they're shooting more for tablets than for phones.  Either way, meh.

Some of these games can be cute distractions, but I've yet to find an all-out AWESOME one, especially on a phone.
 
2013-02-18 12:52:33 AM  

Relatively Obscure: I wonder if they're shooting more for tablets than for phones.  Either way, meh.

Some of these games can be cute distractions, but I've yet to find an all-out AWESOME one, especially on a phone.


I've played both GTA III and GTA:VC on my Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 7. They just bog down on the phone, they are okay on the tablet. On the tablet I can use the phone as a bluetooth game pad, which helps. Really the only scenario I can see playing it that way for any period of time is waiting at an airport and near a power jack.

/GTA III era PC engine was never great, seems to be what was ported to Android
 
2013-02-18 01:04:02 AM  
Apparently if the sponsor pays enough, Drew will post these without the "sponsored link" indicator. Nothing to see here.
 
2013-02-18 01:04:12 AM  
Who?  Oh, Robert Bowling?  The guy Kotick was relying on selling out the rest of Infinity Ward during the IW/Activision dispute?  The guy who became Creative Director of Call of Duty after everyone and their mother left IW for Respawn?  One of the few (if not the only) that never got the invite for Respawn?

To quote another man who has pissed on his predecessors: "Fark that loser."
 
2013-02-18 01:14:22 AM  
So another FPS where I get to shoot turrists?

Not interested, especially not on a small screen and (probably) only iOS or Android.
 
2013-02-18 01:25:40 AM  
Why do you need a pair of pants?  It's a mobile device.  Just play it on the pot.
 
2013-02-18 01:45:40 AM  

Emposter: Just because you can't spend three seconds away from your smartphone doesn't mean they aren't still massively inferior to pretty much any other type electronic gaming platform currently being sold, subby.


Your post should make this a fun thread.  I wonder who will show up first?  The person who plays ignores everyone else while playing games on their phone in public and insists you're being anti-social by playing games at home?  The person who claims phones can do experiences just as good as consoles and computers, failing to realize that input scheme has and always will be the problem?  Or the people who think having rudimentary knowledge of video games makes you a nerd with no life?
 
2013-02-18 01:47:50 AM  
I was going to make a multiplayer game where one player taps a name on the screen, and causes the selected player to sit at a penalty screen, where the selectors name is presented and selectee has the option to tap for "Shout racial epithet" "Rage quit" or "Try again" but these guys probably beat me to it.
 
2013-02-18 01:51:48 AM  

Zyng: Apparently if the sponsor pays enough, Drew will post these without the "sponsored link" indicator.


cdn.overclock.net
/nothing new about payola
//kinda taking over the site now, though
///paid links with comments disabled are super-lame
////let me complain about stuff I'm not paying for, dammit
 
2013-02-18 02:14:48 AM  

cretinbob: Because nothing says awesome gaming like 320x240 graphics.....


My Nexus 10 laughs at your assumptions

i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-18 02:25:42 AM  

cretinbob: Because nothing says awesome gaming like 320x240 graphics.....


"TheRetina display oniPad features a 2048-by-1536resolution "
 
2013-02-18 02:32:48 AM  
So a guy who worked on one of the most generic franchises in the most generic genre of video games is making something on the platform least suitable for gaming.  Woohoo?
 
2013-02-18 02:32:52 AM  
I'm not 100% certain but 'creative strategist' seems like corporate-speak for 'guy from sales/marketing'. Not really what I would consider an exciting selling point for a tactical combat game.
 
2013-02-18 02:43:35 AM  
So if you read the article you find out it's like XCOM - but against terrorists instead of Aliens.

Which doesn't sound like a bad idea.
 
2013-02-18 02:46:33 AM  

BStorm: I'm not 100% certain but 'creative strategist' seems like corporate-speak for 'guy from sales/marketing'. Not really what I would consider an exciting selling point for a tactical combat game.


Robert Bowling was the Infinity Ward community manager, i.e. "I say complete bullshiat and take the blame for it, despite the fact everything I say is authored by the higher-ups."  So yeah, pretty much.
 
2013-02-18 02:51:14 AM  

cretinbob: Because nothing says awesome gaming like 320x240 graphics.....



Hey grampa, trade in your jitterbug already.

Current phone - since last year: 1280x720 (720p)
Phone for the previous two years: 800x480 (WVGA)
Two years before that: 480x320 (1/2 VGA)

Nevermind the tablets, which even the cheaper models have fairly high res screens. For $350 you can have a Galaxy Tab 2 with a 1280x800 screen. My experience with gaming on touchscreen is that only certain types of games work on the smaller screens of phones - turn based are great since your fingers won't be in the way of the action, so a game like X-Com I could see playing on my Galaxy S3. Tablets are a little more forgiving, but if the game isn't turned based on the tablet then the controls better be REALLY damn simple, so you're not intruding with your fingers in to the action at any time.  Galaxy on Fire 2 for tablets I had a blast with - it has very simple controls with only a few functions so even while you're steering your ship you never have to put your fingers in the way of the view, they just stay in the bottom corners.
 
2013-02-18 03:14:52 AM  
img43.imageshack.us
img707.imageshack.us
 
2013-02-18 03:47:45 AM  

styckx: cretinbob: Because nothing says awesome gaming like 320x240 graphics.....

My Nexus 10 laughs at your assumptions

[i.imgur.com image 850x531]


that was cool.
/my mouse wheel thanks you
 
2013-02-18 04:10:56 AM  
While shooters and other action games are usually clumsy and awkward on touch screens, a turn-based X-Com style tactical strategy came could actually work pretty well on smartphones and tablets if done right.  I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this game.

Someone also needs to make a good Civilization-style 4X game for smartphones.
 
2013-02-18 04:32:09 AM  

Lsherm: cretinbob: Because nothing says awesome gaming like 320x240 graphics.....

More like 1024x768.  Still, I'm not sure how cool this game could be..


Leap into last year, man.  My mobile devices have 1280x720 (phone) and 2560x1600 (tablet) displays.  And my phone's from 2011.  My gaming rig is 7680x1440.
 
2013-02-18 05:27:25 AM  
Cool: New tactical game being released. Meh: developed by Call of Duty creative strategist. Who fracking cares: game is coming directly to mobile devices
 
2013-02-18 06:00:12 AM  

Emposter: Cool: New tactical game being released. Awesome: developed by Call of Duty creative strategist. Bring me a change of pants false alarm, nothing to see here: game is coming directly to mobile devices

Just because you can't spend three seconds away from your smartphone doesn't mean they aren't still massively inferior to pretty much any other type electronic gaming platform currently being sold, subby.


There are genres that are perfect for touch interfaces like board games, word games, trivia, castle defense, or other types of strategy that require frequent menu navigation. You're correct though that it is clearly inferior for any game requiring complex twitch movement, and obviously the visuals don't compare, but that's not to say that the tablet/smart phone platform is devoid of quality gaming. Kingdom Rush, Plague, Infinity blade are all brilliant on the platform.
 
2013-02-18 06:17:23 AM  

styckx: cretinbob: Because nothing says awesome gaming like 320x240 graphics.....

My Nexus 10 laughs at your assumptions

[i.imgur.com image 850x531]


Those look like Wii-caliber graphics, and I can't imagine controlling a racing game with a touchscreen is a pleasant experience.

red5ish: [img43.imageshack.us image 798x450]
[img707.imageshack.us image 798x450]


That's an awesome setup, particularly for flight-sims.  But I think the bezels would annoy me while playing a FPS.
 
2013-02-18 06:17:53 AM  

red5ish: [img43.imageshack.us image 798x450]
[img707.imageshack.us image 798x450]


The edges of the monitors would drive me nuts
 
2013-02-18 06:26:40 AM  
Meh.
 
2013-02-18 07:18:48 AM  

darkjezter: While shooters and other action games are usually clumsy and awkward on touch screens, a turn-based X-Com style tactical strategy came could actually work pretty well on smartphones and tablets if done right.  I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this game.

Someone also needs to make a good Civilization-style 4X game for smartphones.


Try Orion on iOS. It's basically Master of Orion for iPhone/iPad. They are doing a kickstarter now to port to Android/PC and Mac

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1481683631/starbase-orion-now-co lo nizing-android-pc-mac?ref=live
 
2013-02-18 07:23:52 AM  
Should be voice activated, you have to yell "pew-pew-pew" to shoot
 
2013-02-18 07:30:41 AM  
MEH!

I guess its a sign of me getting old, but I'm tired of smart phone games.  I like a good time-waster as much as anyone but we've moved on now to people anticipating a shiatty cell phone game just like us old schoolers anticipated the next Final Fantasy (or whatever). I weep for our youth, who will squee every time a new angry birds comes out.

/off my lawn!
 
2013-02-18 08:22:42 AM  

Kimpak: MEH!

I guess its a sign of me getting old, but I'm tired of smart phone games.  I like a good time-waster as much as anyone but we've moved on now to people anticipating a shiatty cell phone game just like us old schoolers anticipated the next Final Fantasy (or whatever). I weep for our youth, who will squee every time a new angry birds comes out.

/off my lawn!




I think the difference is which demographic is doing the squeeing.

In our day we were the hard core pc gamers, console nerds, and authentic geek dom that cheered on RPGs and such. The segment begging for angry birds updates is the one that used to play bejeweled and deer hunter.

The tragedy is that games like cod and FF that used to be targeted for geeks are now being tuned to cash in on the non geek market... Who could care less about the history.
Dare a modern rpg not be a linear "click the goddamned arrow you moron!" Adventure, it never sells enough to compete with simpler titles.
 
2013-02-18 08:40:40 AM  
"Breach & Clear puts gamers in control of a team of Special Operations agents as they raid enemy bases. The gameplay emphasizes strategic planning, smart execution, and 12 year olds throwing around racial slurs at people when they lose."
 
2013-02-18 08:45:06 AM  

way south: Kimpak: MEH!

I guess its a sign of me getting old, but I'm tired of smart phone games.  I like a good time-waster as much as anyone but we've moved on now to people anticipating a shiatty cell phone game just like us old schoolers anticipated the next Final Fantasy (or whatever). I weep for our youth, who will squee every time a new angry birds comes out.

/off my lawn!

I think the difference is which demographic is doing the squeeing.

In our day we were the hard core pc gamers, console nerds, and authentic geek dom that cheered on RPGs and such. The segment begging for angry birds updates is the one that used to play bejeweled and deer hunter.

The tragedy is that games like cod and FF that used to be targeted for geeks are now being tuned to cash in on the non geek market... Who could care less about the history.
Dare a modern rpg not be a linear "click the goddamned arrow you moron!" Adventure, it never sells enough to compete with simpler titles.


I can't agree more.  Even the titles I onced craved are turning to mush.  Zelda for instance, the designers go to all the trouble of making interesting puzzles, but then undo it all by inserting some 'Navi' like character that blatantly tells you how to get past the puzzle you're on.  I wish I could turn that feature off and struggle through the puzzles on my own brain power.
 
2013-02-18 08:46:48 AM  
dinkyphone fail
 
2013-02-18 08:51:04 AM  

Neondistraction: That's an awesome setup, particularly for flight-sims.  But I think the bezels would annoy me while playing a FPS.


You get used to stuff like that and don't "see" it after using it for a while.

/don't have a games rig like that, but university I went used to have a similar setup for visualizing protein structures across multiple screens
 
2013-02-18 09:23:42 AM  
Can we deploy burners, and burn people alive?
 
2013-02-18 09:24:51 AM  
The biggest problem I have with mobile games is the control interface. If someone can figure out a way to do a first-person shooter without creating virtual joysticks, I'll give it a try.
 
kab
2013-02-18 09:34:32 AM  

qorkfiend: The biggest problem I have with mobile games is the control interface. If someone can figure out a way to do a first-person shooter without creating virtual joysticks, I'll give it a try.


You're doing it wrong.
 
2013-02-18 09:36:00 AM  

kab: qorkfiend: The biggest problem I have with mobile games is the control interface. If someone can figure out a way to do a first-person shooter without creating virtual joysticks, I'll give it a try.

You're doing it wrong.


Do tell.
 
2013-02-18 09:55:18 AM  

bukketmaster: Zyng: Apparently if the sponsor pays enough, Drew will post these without the "sponsored link" indicator.

[cdn.overclock.net image 200x200]
/nothing new about payola
//kinda taking over the site now, though
///paid links with comments disabled are super-lame
////let me complain about stuff I'm not paying for, dammit


I used to pay for it, but I certainly never will again. I'm actually grateful that fark is bent on destroying itself now. I've wasted way too much time here. I know the sponsored links are nothing new. They used to be done in entertaining way though.
 
2013-02-18 09:59:26 AM  

Kimpak: way south: Kimpak: MEH!

I guess its a sign of me getting old, but I'm tired of smart phone games.  I like a good time-waster as much as anyone but we've moved on now to people anticipating a shiatty cell phone game just like us old schoolers anticipated the next Final Fantasy (or whatever). I weep for our youth, who will squee every time a new angry birds comes out.

/off my lawn!

I think the difference is which demographic is doing the squeeing.

In our day we were the hard core pc gamers, console nerds, and authentic geek dom that cheered on RPGs and such. The segment begging for angry birds updates is the one that used to play bejeweled and deer hunter.

The tragedy is that games like cod and FF that used to be targeted for geeks are now being tuned to cash in on the non geek market... Who could care less about the history.
Dare a modern rpg not be a linear "click the goddamned arrow you moron!" Adventure, it never sells enough to compete with simpler titles.

I can't agree more.  Even the titles I onced craved are turning to mush.  Zelda for instance, the designers go to all the trouble of making interesting puzzles, but then undo it all by inserting some 'Navi' like character that blatantly tells you how to get past the puzzle you're on.  I wish I could turn that feature off and struggle through the puzzles on my own brain power.



I remember when you had to buy a Nintendo power if you wanted a map of a difficult zone. No cheating with the internet. Either draw it out yourself or wait for the mail.   Now they offer you fully annotated maps the moment you click the menu, and the maps might as well be strait lines.

If they are going to do that they should have the decency make new IP to do it. Not ruin well known titles.

/One of the things thats irked my subconscious is when a game says "Press START to continue".
/But it continues anyway, no matter what key you press.
/It should stay right there, on that screen, and force all you damn monkeys to press the start key.
/Its right next to the Select key...
 
2013-02-18 10:02:26 AM  

Doctor Funfrock: I was raised by Nintendo, and I never thought gaming would leave me behind. Whether or not it's this game or one in the future, I know I won't make the switch to gaming on touch screens. But we have a generation coming up that will be.


Touchscreen Zelda left me empty every time
 
2013-02-18 10:04:02 AM  

qorkfiend: kab: qorkfiend: The biggest problem I have with mobile games is the control interface. If someone can figure out a way to do a first-person shooter without creating virtual joysticks, I'll give it a try.

You're doing it wrong.

Do tell.


This joker is telling you to use mouse and keyboard
 
2013-02-18 10:18:17 AM  
I've made the decision to stop keeping up with new games starting with the next console generation.

DLC...touchscreens...mobile devices...no disks or used games....

Al of these developments have me settled. I can't keep up.

Hand me a PS 3 controller or a GBA. I'll never play a game on a cell phone.
 
2013-02-18 10:42:45 AM  
Overwatch.  Overwatch. Overwatch. Overwatch. Overwatch....
 
2013-02-18 11:14:21 AM  
I'd be all for a nicely done tactical turn based game sort of like XCOM. My hopes for it actually happening are very low, however.
 
2013-02-18 11:19:50 AM  

Kimpak: way south: Kimpak: MEH!

I guess its a sign of me getting old, but I'm tired of smart phone games.  I like a good time-waster as much as anyone but we've moved on now to people anticipating a shiatty cell phone game just like us old schoolers anticipated the next Final Fantasy (or whatever). I weep for our youth, who will squee every time a new angry birds comes out.

/off my lawn!

I think the difference is which demographic is doing the squeeing.

In our day we were the hard core pc gamers, console nerds, and authentic geek dom that cheered on RPGs and such. The segment begging for angry birds updates is the one that used to play bejeweled and deer hunter.

The tragedy is that games like cod and FF that used to be targeted for geeks are now being tuned to cash in on the non geek market... Who could care less about the history.
Dare a modern rpg not be a linear "click the goddamned arrow you moron!" Adventure, it never sells enough to compete with simpler titles.

I can't agree more.  Even the titles I onced craved are turning to mush.  Zelda for instance, the designers go to all the trouble of making interesting puzzles, but then undo it all by inserting some 'Navi' like character that blatantly tells you how to get past the puzzle you're on.  I wish I could turn that feature off and struggle through the puzzles on my own brain power.


The ds zeldas didn't have the navi. I repeat it over again: getting the impression of a seal was an exercise that made me feel like king haggard the first time he saw a unicorn: the earth was made new and it was like the first time I ever solved a trial and error puzzle from an interface that said "screw you." I was transported to games like Castlevania 2, where the only thing to do to progress is to equip useless items and stand at certain dead ends. Or the final boss of strider for the nes, who kills you because he is too fast and damaging to beat, unless you stand still and charge your laser sword, whereupon for no reason he stands still for his execution.
 
2013-02-18 12:12:22 PM  
Is my sarcasm detector on the fritz or are you serious, subby?
 
2013-02-18 01:11:55 PM  

SuperChuck: I'd be all for a nicely done tactical turn based game sort of like XCOM. My hopes for it actually happening are very low, however.


There's actually some turn based tactical games on mobile that aren't too bad right now(Rad Soldiers and Frontline Tactics come to mind). Granted they aren't as in-depth as X-Com(they're primarily multiplayer focused), and I honestly think a game like X-Com would be right at home on a mobile device. When I started playing Enemy Unknown the first thing that jumped into my head was "why don't they have a tablet version of this? Touch screen controls would be the shiat for this game!"

Here's hoping this new one pulls it off, but considering the pedigree of the dev(CoD.. yawn) I'm not holding my breath. It will probably be all flash and no depth.
 
2013-02-18 01:13:04 PM  
Cool: New tactical game being released. Awesome: developed by Call of Duty creative strategist. Bring me a change of pants: Fark: game is coming directly to mobile devices

That is how is goes subby, come on!
 
Xai
2013-02-18 01:13:59 PM  
call of duty has a 'creative stratagist'?

He must have sat down when writing black ops and gone 'the player is too stupid, let's force them to do do what we planned
 
2013-02-18 01:54:38 PM  

cretinbob: Because nothing says awesome gaming like 320x240 graphics.....


My Nexus 4 does 1280x768.  I think it's time for you to upgrade.
 
2013-02-18 02:49:58 PM  
ouyadb.com


Proof that COD alumni can put together good things.

/browser and mobile games are the future
//touch screen ain't usually that bad once you get used to it, though sometimes slight modifications to the controls help
///can get bluetooth controllers if you hare having that much difficulty adjusting
 
2013-02-18 03:06:29 PM  
I was with you until "mobile devices". Stupid...
 
2013-02-18 07:47:12 PM  
red5ish: I have that trackball! (and used it to select your name)/still only use 1 monitor for development... and it's the builtin laptop monitor.//Yes, I use a trackball with a laptop. X11 middle button paste!
 
2013-02-18 11:41:47 PM  
Another mass-shooting training app? Excellent.
 
2013-02-19 12:14:04 AM  

red5ish: [img43.imageshack.us image 798x450]
[img707.imageshack.us image 798x450]


I like the widescreen eyefinity myself.  If you're just standing them up on end you could get close to the same resolution with one dual driven monitor.
 
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