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2013-02-17 10:59:28 PM

Radioactive Ass: To those who want to compare the threat of lynching done decades ago in order to strike fear into the hearts of black people to todays black on black violence I'd think that there are plenty more black people in the slums, ghettos, hoods or whatever you want to call them that are in fear of their lives from black on black crime than there ever were from the KKK.

The hood thugs of today ARE the comparative equal to the KKK of yesteryear and are far more deadly and pervasive than the KKK ever was. That is this guys message.


There is, however, an issue of the type of deaths that were inflicted. Go to Wikipedia and type "lynching". Then read the entire page and be prepared to lose sleep.

Castrating blacks, shoving burning pokers into their eye sockets, amputating body parts, etc. I'd rather be shot.
 
2013-02-17 11:02:14 PM

Wayne 985: Radioactive Ass: To those who want to compare the threat of lynching done decades ago in order to strike fear into the hearts of black people to todays black on black violence I'd think that there are plenty more black people in the slums, ghettos, hoods or whatever you want to call them that are in fear of their lives from black on black crime than there ever were from the KKK.

The hood thugs of today ARE the comparative equal to the KKK of yesteryear and are far more deadly and pervasive than the KKK ever was. That is this guys message.

There is, however, an issue of the type of deaths that were inflicted. Go to Wikipedia and type "lynching". Then read the entire page and be prepared to lose sleep.

Castrating blacks, shoving burning pokers into their eye sockets, amputating body parts, etc. I'd rather be shot.


Well if you want to thrown down about horrifying Wikipedia articles then go read up about the Rape of Nanking.
 
2013-02-17 11:03:04 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Gergesa: A while ago I was interested in reading up on this (years ago, forget why) anyway an article or two I came across said it was white people's fault.  And by white people they meant everyone that wasn't black.

The argument ran something like this: black people kill black people because no one cares.  Black people can't kill members of another race because that brings police reprisal.  White people control the judiciary and will punish black people for killing anyone that isn't black.  Therefore white people are to blame for black on black violence.

Obviously it has been years since I read the article but that was pretty much the argument they were making.

Do you remember the source?  Was it "Idiots Guide to Idiotic Thoughts" ?


I recently read something very similar in the Toronto Star, by a BLACK woman.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gt a/2013/02/13/qa_donna_harrow_discusses_t he_crisis_in_the_black_community.html
 
2013-02-17 11:09:42 PM

Wayne 985: There is, however, an issue of the type of deaths that were inflicted. Go to Wikipedia and type "lynching". Then read the entire page and be prepared to lose sleep.

Castrating blacks, shoving burning pokers into their eye sockets, amputating body parts, etc. I'd rather be shot.


There is not going to be a perfect American comparison however that is the message that he's trying to send and I think that he has a point.
 
2013-02-17 11:10:30 PM

Gergesa: A while ago I was interested in reading up on this (years ago, forget why) anyway an article or two I came across said it was white people's fault.  And by white people they meant everyone that wasn't black.

The argument ran something like this: black people kill black people because no one cares.  Black people can't kill members of another race because that brings police reprisal.  White people control the judiciary and will punish black people for killing anyone that isn't black.  Therefore white people are to blame for black on black violence.

That is an all-time high for stupidity.
If "black people kill black people because no one cares" - then they must care less about black people than others do.

This argument says they are killing for the heck of it but chose to kill blacks because they will get in less trouble.

Taking that stupid argument further, let's say that whites didn't control the judiciary and blacks are now killing whites as well as blacks.  It must be no ones fault since blacks weren't to blame when they were only killing blacks.

 
2013-02-17 11:12:52 PM

Rufus Lee King: Bastard Toadflax: ScreamingHangover: Fark Rye For Many Whores: Rufus Lee King: Well, I'e said it before, and I'll say it again:

If any of you "peace and love" white folks really want to take care of the racial problem, why don't you go to the nearest ghetto and tell the dudes on the street corners how much you love them, and share their concern for racial harmony.

Before you do this, however, be sure to stop and sign one of those "pre-need" things at your local funeral parlor.

You're exaggerating, they'll just get scammed for a few dollars and laughed at.

THIS

The dudes on the corner know they can safely rip off a white kid from the burbs, and the cops won't do much. However, kill a white kid, and the police will swarm that neighborhood like Bin Laden was back.


You're missing the point: Becuse some black people don't like white people, that means no one should care about racism in general.

Yeah, you're probably right.

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Are you having trouble just saying what I think you're saying? Be brave. Say it.
 
2013-02-17 11:13:05 PM

Rufus Lee King: You know, this is one of the problems I have with FARK.

Every day, there is at least one race-baiting thread which proclaims white people are evil incarnate.

Listen, I have never knowing "oppressed" a black person in my entire life. Seriously, I wouldn't know how to even go about it.

Carry on, though.


You don't have to be racist personally (though you probably are in unconscious ways, just like almost all of us) for society to be racist. Our society is still fraught with racist policies despite our efforts to change or mitigate them. 1 in 4 black men spends time in prison, often for crimes that would net a white guy a slap on the wrist. That one factor alone is enough to cause a cycle of crime, violence, and oppressive atmosphere that is self-sustaining. When you add the economic policies, drug laws, public assistance imbalances, and the idea that "hitting the lottery" of pro sports or pop stardom is the only way out on top of it, you end up with a large portion of black kids that have practically no chance to be anything but criminals.

"You're either slingin' crack rock, or you got a wicked jump shot"

You don't just get to label yourself "not racist" and conclude that it's all good. The only way to really combat this problem is to attack it economically. College needs to be free to anyone who can't afford it. Poor families need to be able to make enough money at unskilled labor that their kids can make it through high school without having to sell drugs.

Assistance and education for poor and disadvantaged people (of all colours) would benefit everyone in the long run. We have plenty of people at the top of our economy getting obscenely rich off the misfortunes of others, that could easily afford to pitch in some higher taxes to take care of this problem.
 
2013-02-17 11:16:04 PM

KrispyKritter: my grandparents grew up in the days when the bulk of the country was dirt poor and hungry. people did what they had to do to put food on the table and it didn't include robbing neighbors' stores, slinging dope on the street cornerrunning moonshine, shooting each other in bulk quantities and parenting six children with four babbys mommas. there is was not a huge difference between being poor and being a hoodlum.


FTFM, maybe not FTFY but FTFM
 
2013-02-17 11:17:32 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: lohphat: tinfoil-hat maggie: Violence in poverty stricken areas imagine that, who would have thought.

Did the poor Irish, Italian, and Jewish ghettos of NY in the early 20th century have this level of violence and misogeny? Yeah there was the Mob but it even they had their standards of behavior.

I think a big difference is education, I mean, those communities were already established and with a lot of European middle class. Also there was no war on drugs which really brings up the violence.


Not true.  Eventually those groups climbed out of extreme poverty and ignorance, but during their respective "big waves" of immigration, they were a pretty sorry lot.  The Irish came over in big bunches first, giving them a head start on the Italians (who came later).  Both were actually explicitly compared to American blacks (they were each called, albeit at different periods, "inside-out [people who annoy you]."

Racial propaganda of the time even used the exact same terms to denigrate the Irish and African-Americans (brutish, ape-like, low intelligence, etc.  Check out How the Irish Became White).  In general, immigrants who came in large waves without much by way of education or wealth were racialized as being non-white, even if they "fit" phenotypically.  The difference, of course, is that after some accumulated wealth and education, those immigrant groups could easily leave behind their stigma because they could blend.  African-Americans, however, have always been saddled with their skin color, which remains a marker of social class in America.
 
2013-02-17 11:18:40 PM

Radioactive Ass: Wayne 985: There is, however, an issue of the type of deaths that were inflicted. Go to Wikipedia and type "lynching". Then read the entire page and be prepared to lose sleep.

Castrating blacks, shoving burning pokers into their eye sockets, amputating body parts, etc. I'd rather be shot.

There is not going to be a perfect American comparison however that is the message that he's trying to send and I think that he has a point.


I think the point is that the current culture of black on black violence is a far bigger problem than the KKK right now
 
2013-02-17 11:20:42 PM

Z-clipped: Rufus Lee King: You know, this is one of the problems I have with FARK.

Every day, there is at least one race-baiting thread which proclaims white people are evil incarnate.

Listen, I have never knowing "oppressed" a black person in my entire life. Seriously, I wouldn't know how to even go about it.

Carry on, though.

You don't have to be racist personally (though you probably are in unconscious ways, just like almost all of us) for society to be racist. Our society is still fraught with racist policies despite our efforts to change or mitigate them. 1 in 4 black men spends time in prison, often for crimes that would net a white guy a slap on the wrist. That one factor alone is enough to cause a cycle of crime, violence, and oppressive atmosphere that is self-sustaining. When you add the economic policies, drug laws, public assistance imbalances, and the idea that "hitting the lottery" of pro sports or pop stardom is the only way out on top of it, you end up with a large portion of black kids that have practically no chance to be anything but criminals.

"You're either slingin' crack rock, or you got a wicked jump shot"

You don't just get to label yourself "not racist" and conclude that it's all good. The only way to really combat this problem is to attack it economically. College needs to be free to anyone who can't afford it. Poor families need to be able to make enough money at unskilled labor that their kids can make it through high school without having to sell drugs.

Assistance and education for poor and disadvantaged people (of all colours) would benefit everyone in the long run. We have plenty of people at the top of our economy getting obscenely rich off the misfortunes of others, that could easily afford to pitch in some higher taxes to take care of this problem.


"Wahh! White people should feel guilty! fark rich people!"
 
2013-02-17 11:23:54 PM
By far, the biggest factor in violent crime rates is poverty.

That's a pretty popular myth but...

dickinabox.net
 
2013-02-17 11:27:36 PM

Z-clipped: Assistance and education for poor and disadvantaged people (of all colours) would benefit everyone in the long run.


Yeah, maybe we should have a law that says that everyone gets a free K-12 education.
 
2013-02-17 11:28:09 PM

ScreamingHangover: Fark Rye For Many Whores: Rufus Lee King: Well, I'e said it before, and I'll say it again:

If any of you "peace and love" white folks really want to take care of the racial problem, why don't you go to the nearest ghetto and tell the dudes on the street corners how much you love them, and share their concern for racial harmony.

Before you do this, however, be sure to stop and sign one of those "pre-need" things at your local funeral parlor.

You're exaggerating, they'll just get scammed for a few dollars and laughed at.

THIS

The dudes on the corner know they can safely rip off a white kid from the burbs, and the cops won't do much. However, kill a white kid, and the police will swarm that neighborhood like Bin Laden was back.


Nope. Cops don't care about tweekers either. One of my night drivers witnessed a white dude get blown away by black drug dealers on Tacoma's hilltop. Took the cops 30 mins to show up.
 
2013-02-17 11:29:53 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: Also I would just like to leave the story of a white great uncle in Texas here. He was a gambler and a drunk from all accounts and one night he hears a noise outside and wakes up in his booze soaked haze. He peers out the window and sees white sheets outside, and just knows the Klan has come to get him so he loads his shotgun, opens the door and fires into his wifes/girlfriends sheets that were on the cloths line drying.


That's a good story.
 
2013-02-17 11:33:48 PM

Rufus Lee King: You know, this is one of the problems I have with FARK.

Every day, there is at least one race-baiting thread which proclaims white people are evil incarnate.

Listen, I have never knowing "oppressed" a black person in my entire life. Seriously, I wouldn't know how to even go about it.

Carry on, though.


You sound like you have a lot of rage and anger to release. Please tell me the injustice of it all that time a black person called you a cracker and how outraged you were that you couldn't called him a nergro.
 
2013-02-17 11:34:42 PM

calbert: [fitsnews.com image 713x468]


Now that's the way to do it.  Bam - right off the bat.  Impressive Farkers, impressive.
 
2013-02-17 11:34:54 PM

lohphat: Z-clipped: lohphat: Shaggy_C: It's not a skin colour thing it is a poverty thing. Anyone who puts race at the forefront of the issue is missing the point.

I would say it's more of a culture problem. If you embrace violence and misogyny and reject education you're not going the break the cycle of poverty that encourages.

A culture of misogyny and violence? If this nonsense were true, there would be an epidemic of Republican-on-Republican murder.

By far, the biggest factor in violent crime rates is poverty.

The slums of Rio and Calcutta contain the poorest of the poor. Yes, there's violence, but not at the same scale as in the US's poor population.



Yeah, in Rio the government sanctions death squads to outright kill the poorest of the poor.  I can see how that's VERY similar to what happens amongst the US' poor.
 
2013-02-17 11:36:41 PM

lamecomedian: tinfoil-hat maggie: lohphat: tinfoil-hat maggie: Violence in poverty stricken areas imagine that, who would have thought.

Did the poor Irish, Italian, and Jewish ghettos of NY in the early 20th century have this level of violence and misogeny? Yeah there was the Mob but it even they had their standards of behavior.

I think a big difference is education, I mean, those communities were already established and with a lot of European middle class. Also there was no war on drugs which really brings up the violence.

Not true.  Eventually those groups climbed out of extreme poverty and ignorance, but during their respective "big waves" of immigration, they were a pretty sorry lot.  The Irish came over in big bunches first, giving them a head start on the Italians (who came later).  Both were actually explicitly compared to American blacks (they were each called, albeit at different periods, "inside-out [people who annoy you]."

Racial propaganda of the time even used the exact same terms to denigrate the Irish and African-Americans (brutish, ape-like, low intelligence, etc.  Check out How the Irish Became White).  In general, immigrants who came in large waves without much by way of education or wealth were racialized as being non-white, even if they "fit" phenotypically.  The difference, of course, is that after some accumulated wealth and education, those immigrant groups could easily leave behind their stigma because they could blend.  African-Americans, however, have always been saddled with their skin color, which remains a marker of social class in America.


Okay he said 20th century not the 19th and when a lot of the Irish and Germans came then there happened to be a big war and well. The Irish Brigade maybe how did that happen?
 
2013-02-17 11:38:18 PM

pete1729: tinfoil-hat maggie: Also I would just like to leave the story of a white great uncle in Texas here. He was a gambler and a drunk from all accounts and one night he hears a noise outside and wakes up in his booze soaked haze. He peers out the window and sees white sheets outside, and just knows the Klan has come to get him so he loads his shotgun, opens the door and fires into his wifes/girlfriends sheets that were on the cloths line drying.

That's a good story.


Thanks :D
/Family history is weird.
 
2013-02-17 11:38:24 PM
Whatever.

Anything that shortens my time waiting in line a KFC is okay by me.


/jk!
 
2013-02-17 11:38:54 PM

wildcardjack: How much black-on-black violence is related the anti-drug laws enacted by Klansmen in the 1920's and 30's?


Most black-on-black violence is related to proximity, in much the same reason that white-on-white violence seems to be most prevalent in the suburbs, and hispanic-on-hispanic violence is common in the barrio.

You beat, rob and murder the people nearest to you. There's no reason to start blaming it on anything else.
 
2013-02-17 11:39:13 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Z-clipped: Assistance and education for poor and disadvantaged people (of all colours) would benefit everyone in the long run.

Yeah, maybe we should have a law that says that everyone gets a free K-12 education.


Free? It's funny how we can spend more money per child than any other country on Earth to provide them a free education. And by "funny", I mean "it's not free".
 
2013-02-17 11:40:26 PM

lohphat: Z-clipped: lohphat: Shaggy_C: It's not a skin colour thing it is a poverty thing. Anyone who puts race at the forefront of the issue is missing the point.

I would say it's more of a culture problem. If you embrace violence and misogyny and reject education you're not going the break the cycle of poverty that encourages.

A culture of misogyny and violence? If this nonsense were true, there would be an epidemic of Republican-on-Republican murder.

By far, the biggest factor in violent crime rates is poverty.

The slums of Rio and Calcutta contain the poorest of the poor. Yes, there's violence, but not at the same scale as in the US's poor population.


You've got to be kidding with this shiat.  Brazil is one of the top 20 countries in the world in homicide rate.  They have about 8 times the number of homicides per capita that the US has, much of it gang-related.  They also happen to be one of the few developed countries in the world with a higher Gini coefficient than the US.   Have you ever actually  been to Rio, or did you just pull this out of your ass?  Yes, the rate there dropped recently, but it's on its way back up again.  This is just an idiotic example.

India has a slightly lower homicide rate than we do, but they also have a MUCH lower Gini coefficient.  Calcutta happens to have an unusually low crime rate, even for India, but the fact that outlying data exists doesn't make what I said wrong.  Poverty (especially relative poverty) is generally the largest factor in crime rates.  Combating poverty is the most efficient solution to the problem.
 
2013-02-17 11:41:39 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: How many black men lynch other black men because they're black and the keep other blacks fearful for their lives?


Watched a doc on Netflix about how lots of black males never leave the streets they grew up on in Compton and Watts because they were fearful they would be stopped by gang members and asked where they were from and be shot for it. So in a sort of way Yes!
 
2013-02-17 11:42:05 PM
Sad but true. They kill the shiat out of one another more than any klan killing ever did,

lamecomedian: By far, the biggest factor in violent crime rates is poverty.

That's a pretty popular myth but...

/Wrong, the biggest factor in violent crime is uneducated smack talking gutter trash shooting up convenient stores, drive by shootings, revenge killings, robberies...etc. In other words, inner city gangs and uneducated thugs that see a life of crime as more profitable and easier than having a real job that pays a shiatty wage. So in other other words...laziness and greed and stupidity.

 
2013-02-17 11:43:03 PM

Shaggy_C: It's not a skin colour thing it is a poverty thing. Anyone who puts race at the forefront of the issue is missing the point.



Anyone who says it's just "a poverty thing" has never looked at poverty statistics.

Poor "whites" outnumber poor blacks by more than 2 to 1.

/FBI counts Hispanics as "white"
//Blacks make up 13% of the US population
///Do the math
 
2013-02-17 11:44:14 PM

Z-clipped: Combating poverty is the most efficient solution to the problem.


Shows what you know. The most efficient solution is to follow the example laid out by Baron Karza in the Micronauts fictional universe. It was a utopian society.
 
2013-02-17 11:44:35 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Z-clipped: Assistance and education for poor and disadvantaged people (of all colours) would benefit everyone in the long run.

Yeah, maybe we should have a law that says that everyone gets a free K-12 education.


Yeah, because clearly that's sufficient.

You don't know fark all about what kids have to deal with to get through  K-12 in low income areas, so shut your trolling piehole.  The number of poor black kids with twice your IQ that end up in jail because they had to sell drugs to eat would blow your tiny, stupid mind.
 
2013-02-17 11:46:14 PM

Greta_VanHouten: tenpoundsofcheese: Gergesa: A while ago I was interested in reading up on this (years ago, forget why) anyway an article or two I came across said it was white people's fault.  And by white people they meant everyone that wasn't black.

The argument ran something like this: black people kill black people because no one cares.  Black people can't kill members of another race because that brings police reprisal.  White people control the judiciary and will punish black people for killing anyone that isn't black.  Therefore white people are to blame for black on black violence.

Obviously it has been years since I read the article but that was pretty much the argument they were making.

Do you remember the source?  Was it "Idiots Guide to Idiotic Thoughts" ?

I recently read something very similar in the Toronto Star, by a BLACK woman.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gt a/2013/02/13/qa_donna_harrow_discusses_t he_crisis_in_the_black_community.html


That entire article was a plea for money and nothing else.
 
2013-02-17 11:47:04 PM

Z-clipped: lohphat: Z-clipped: lohphat: Shaggy_C: It's not a skin colour thing it is a poverty thing. Anyone who puts race at the forefront of the issue is missing the point.

I would say it's more of a culture problem. If you embrace violence and misogyny and reject education you're not going the break the cycle of poverty that encourages.

A culture of misogyny and violence? If this nonsense were true, there would be an epidemic of Republican-on-Republican murder.

By far, the biggest factor in violent crime rates is poverty.

The slums of Rio and Calcutta contain the poorest of the poor. Yes, there's violence, but not at the same scale as in the US's poor population.

You've got to be kidding with this shiat.  Brazil is one of the top 20 countries in the world in homicide rate.  They have about 8 times the number of homicides per capita that the US has, much of it gang-related.  They also happen to be one of the few developed countries in the world with a higher Gini coefficient than the US.   Have you ever actually  been to Rio, or did you just pull this out of your ass?  Yes, the rate there dropped recently, but it's on its way back up again.  This is just an idiotic example.

India has a slightly lower homicide rate than we do, but they also have a MUCH lower Gini coefficient.  Calcutta happens to have an unusually low crime rate, even for India, but the fact that outlying data exists doesn't make what I said wrong.  Poverty (especially relative poverty) is generally the largest factor in crime rates.  Combating poverty is the most efficient solution to the problem.


Not to mention how much more difficult it is to acquire a firearm in places like India and Brazil.
 
2013-02-17 11:55:10 PM
Than the KKK ever killed? According to whom? Who kept accurate records of the orgy of lynchings after the Civil War? You, subby?

/I'm the real racist
 
2013-02-17 11:55:20 PM

Fallout Boy: Z-clipped: lohphat: Z-clipped: lohphat: Shaggy_C: It's not a skin colour thing it is a poverty thing. Anyone who puts race at the forefront of the issue is missing the point.

I would say it's more of a culture problem. If you embrace violence and misogyny and reject education you're not going the break the cycle of poverty that encourages.

A culture of misogyny and violence? If this nonsense were true, there would be an epidemic of Republican-on-Republican murder.

By far, the biggest factor in violent crime rates is poverty.

The slums of Rio and Calcutta contain the poorest of the poor. Yes, there's violence, but not at the same scale as in the US's poor population.

You've got to be kidding with this shiat.  Brazil is one of the top 20 countries in the world in homicide rate.  They have about 8 times the number of homicides per capita that the US has, much of it gang-related.  They also happen to be one of the few developed countries in the world with a higher Gini coefficient than the US.   Have you ever actually  been to Rio, or did you just pull this out of your ass?  Yes, the rate there dropped recently, but it's on its way back up again.  This is just an idiotic example.

India has a slightly lower homicide rate than we do, but they also have a MUCH lower Gini coefficient.  Calcutta happens to have an unusually low crime rate, even for India, but the fact that outlying data exists doesn't make what I said wrong.  Poverty (especially relative poverty) is generally the largest factor in crime rates.  Combating poverty is the most efficient solution to the problem.

Not to mention how much more difficult it is to acquire a firearm in places like India and Brazil.



by Giovanni Dubon

"Brazil has begun to teeter on the brink of human rights violations" as it begins to clear 1.5 million poor citizens from their neighborhoods in preparation for the 2014 World Cup and the 2016 Olympics. Killings of favela residents far exceed police violence, even in the United States. "Everyone knows the police here in Rio de Janeiro... nearly all of them abuse their authority.... The shooting cases you hear about, most of them are executions...It's all premeditated-very cold-blooded and calculated"
 
2013-02-17 11:56:43 PM

GUTSU: Z-clipped: Rufus Lee King: You know, this is one of the problems I have with FARK.

Every day, there is at least one race-baiting thread which proclaims white people are evil incarnate.

Listen, I have never knowing "oppressed" a black person in my entire life. Seriously, I wouldn't know how to even go about it.

Carry on, though.

You don't have to be racist personally (though you probably are in unconscious ways, just like almost all of us) for society to be racist. Our society is still fraught with racist policies despite our efforts to change or mitigate them. 1 in 4 black men spends time in prison, often for crimes that would net a white guy a slap on the wrist. That one factor alone is enough to cause a cycle of crime, violence, and oppressive atmosphere that is self-sustaining. When you add the economic policies, drug laws, public assistance imbalances, and the idea that "hitting the lottery" of pro sports or pop stardom is the only way out on top of it, you end up with a large portion of black kids that have practically no chance to be anything but criminals.

"You're either slingin' crack rock, or you got a wicked jump shot"

You don't just get to label yourself "not racist" and conclude that it's all good. The only way to really combat this problem is to attack it economically. College needs to be free to anyone who can't afford it. Poor families need to be able to make enough money at unskilled labor that their kids can make it through high school without having to sell drugs.

Assistance and education for poor and disadvantaged people (of all colours) would benefit everyone in the long run. We have plenty of people at the top of our economy getting obscenely rich off the misfortunes of others, that could easily afford to pitch in some higher taxes to take care of this problem.

"Wahh! White people should feel guilty! fark rich people!"


"I take credit for my country's virtues, but none of the bad stuff is my fault! America, Fark yeah!"

But "fark rich people"? Yeah, lately, pretty much.
 
2013-02-17 11:58:54 PM

Rufus Lee King: Listen, I have never knowing "oppressed" a black person in my entire life. Seriously, I wouldn't know how to even go about it.



Not "knowingly" oppressing black people is the WORST kind of oppression against black people.


/You bastard
 
2013-02-18 12:01:58 AM

hasty ambush: SoxSweepAgain: I see this message.  The call for the ending of black-black shootings needs to end.

That said, the biggest part of this problem is that when there is little opportunity for legitimate employment, people resort to illegitimate employment.

Illegitimate employment means that there's an added business expense that involves lawyers, guns and money.   Which means guns get shot a lot.

Which decades of spending trillions of dollars in social welfare spending along with racial quotas and "affirmative action" have done nothing to correct.  It may have made it worse by replacing the traditional family sturcuture with government social programs.  Welfare went from being temporary assistance to a mutli-generational entitlement and career choice

It is a cultural problem that will not change until the culture is changed from one is which academic achievement is "acting white", the culture of thuggism is no longer celebrated by things like rap "music" and single motherhood is no longer the norm .



^ THIS guy gets it ^
 
2013-02-18 12:03:46 AM

untaken_name: tenpoundsofcheese: Z-clipped: Assistance and education for poor and disadvantaged people (of all colours) would benefit everyone in the long run.

Yeah, maybe we should have a law that says that everyone gets a free K-12 education.

Free? It's funny how we can spend more money per child than any other country on Earth to provide them a free education. And by "funny", I mean "it's not free".


duh...I never implied that the teachers weren't getting paid or the buildings were building themselves.

you don't have to pay to have your child educated.

Some people pay a lot of taxes to cover those costs and may have no kids, some people pay nothing and may have 2 kids.
 
2013-02-18 12:04:08 AM

wildcardjack: How much black-on-black violence is related the anti-drug laws enacted by Klansmen in the 1920's and 30's?


Prohibition was the genius idea of the Progressives.

So was abortion, actually.  Progressives promoted abortion as an instrument of eugenics.

These were the same people who brought economic collectivism to America.

Progressives have done such wonderful things for black people, amiright?
 
2013-02-18 12:05:30 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: Not true.
I remember way back one of my friends made the mistake of wearing the SAME color sweater as Rodgers had on that day.
Never saw him after that day.
No one ever made that mistake again.


www.rainiervalleypost.com

Farkin' Rodgers and his sweaters.


/gangsta.
 
2013-02-18 12:06:54 AM

Z-clipped: GUTSU: Z-clipped: Rufus Lee King: You know, this is one of the problems I have with FARK.

Every day, there is at least one race-baiting thread which proclaims white people are evil incarnate.

Listen, I have never knowing "oppressed" a black person in my entire life. Seriously, I wouldn't know how to even go about it.

Carry on, though.

You don't have to be racist personally (though you probably are in unconscious ways, just like almost all of us) for society to be racist. Our society is still fraught with racist policies despite our efforts to change or mitigate them. 1 in 4 black men spends time in prison, often for crimes that would net a white guy a slap on the wrist. That one factor alone is enough to cause a cycle of crime, violence, and oppressive atmosphere that is self-sustaining. When you add the economic policies, drug laws, public assistance imbalances, and the idea that "hitting the lottery" of pro sports or pop stardom is the only way out on top of it, you end up with a large portion of black kids that have practically no chance to be anything but criminals.

"You're either slingin' crack rock, or you got a wicked jump shot"

You don't just get to label yourself "not racist" and conclude that it's all good. The only way to really combat this problem is to attack it economically. College needs to be free to anyone who can't afford it. Poor families need to be able to make enough money at unskilled labor that their kids can make it through high school without having to sell drugs.

Assistance and education for poor and disadvantaged people (of all colours) would benefit everyone in the long run. We have plenty of people at the top of our economy getting obscenely rich off the misfortunes of others, that could easily afford to pitch in some higher taxes to take care of this problem.

"Wahh! White people should feel guilty! fark rich people!"

"I take credit for my country's virtues, but none of the bad stuff is my fault! America, Fark yeah!"

But "fark ...


My family came over in the 1920's and 40's, I don't feel any guilt because a bunch of blacks sold a different bunch of blacks to the dutch who sold them to americans. I have never once claimed any credit for american exceptionalism, and I sure as hell ain't going to feel bad about something I had no control over. Hey, you can rag on rich people all you want, but if someone threw 10 million dollars into your lap you wouldn't throw it away.
 
2013-02-18 12:09:16 AM

Z-clipped: tenpoundsofcheese: Z-clipped: Assistance and education for poor and disadvantaged people (of all colours) would benefit everyone in the long run.

Yeah, maybe we should have a law that says that everyone gets a free K-12 education.

Yeah, because clearly that's sufficient.

You don't know fark all about what kids have to deal with to get through  K-12 in low income areas, so shut your trolling piehole.  The number of poor black kids with twice your IQ that end up in jail because they had to sell drugs to eat would blow your tiny, stupid mind.


oh look, some one is making stuff up again.
do you have a citation for the distribution of IQs among kids who are in jail?  No?   Figures you are lying again.

do you have a citation for how many kids sell drugs in order to eat ?  No?  Figures that you are lying again.

Any stats or citations for how many of those kids don't have access to programs for food?  No?

Stop being such a racist by stereotyping people.
 
2013-02-18 12:10:02 AM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: lohphat: tinfoil-hat maggie: Violence in poverty stricken areas imagine that, who would have thought.

Did the poor Irish, Italian, and Jewish ghettos of NY in the early 20th century have this level of violence and misogeny? Yeah there was the Mob but it even they had their standards of behavior.

Now I'm trying to figure out if you don't like black-on-woman violence or black-on-woman cooperative violence followed by babies.


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2013-02-18 12:10:23 AM

GilRuiz1: ultraholland: so vote Republican? I don't get it.

Why must it be Republican vs Democrat?  Why can't it just be a journalist making a statement on crime and violence without reference to political party?


Because a Liberal can't make a mindless derp statement without using a pointless jab to make it seem like their IQ is above 60.
 
2013-02-18 12:10:44 AM
if i recall correctly from the bureau of justice statistics ,  about 50% of all murder victims and murders are black, but blacks are 13% of the overall population.
 
2013-02-18 12:12:19 AM
It is a cultural problem that will not change until the culture is changed from one is which academic achievement is "acting white", the culture of thuggism is no longer celebrated by things like rap "music" and single motherhood is no longer the norm .

(Let me fix that for you)

After white people decide to stop twisting children's minds to make a buck using obvious misdirected emotional appeals  we'll keep having generations of children who, in the absence of a strong male role models, due to insanely biased incarceration statistics and economic outlook suck up as much thuggery as old white men can sell to them, all before they have a chance to learn the Tooth Fairy isn't real. Things won't change until that changes.
 
2013-02-18 12:12:26 AM

Z-clipped: lohphat: Z-clipped: lohphat: Shaggy_C: It's not a skin colour thing it is a poverty thing. Anyone who puts race at the forefront of the issue is missing the point.

I would say it's more of a culture problem. If you embrace violence and misogyny and reject education you're not going the break the cycle of poverty that encourages.

A culture of misogyny and violence? If this nonsense were true, there would be an epidemic of Republican-on-Republican murder.

By far, the biggest factor in violent crime rates is poverty.

The slums of Rio and Calcutta contain the poorest of the poor. Yes, there's violence, but not at the same scale as in the US's poor population.

You've got to be kidding with this shiat.  Brazil is one of the top 20 countries in the world in homicide rate.  They have about 8 times the number of homicides per capita that the US has, much of it gang-related.  They also happen to be one of the few developed countries in the world with a higher Gini coefficient than the US.   Have you ever actually  been to Rio, or did you just pull this out of your ass?  Yes, the rate there dropped recently, but it's on its way back up again.  This is just an idiotic example.

India has a slightly lower homicide rate than we do, but they also have a MUCH lower Gini coefficient.  Calcutta happens to have an unusually low crime rate, even for India, but the fact that outlying data exists doesn't make what I said wrong.  Poverty (especially relative poverty) is generally the largest factor in crime rates.  Combating poverty is the most efficient solution to the problem.


The Gini coefficient is not a measure of poverty, it's a measure of wealth inequality.  Two countries can have the same GCo, but have very different standards of living.

Once again: poverty is not the main factor driving crime rates.
 
2013-02-18 12:15:56 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: untaken_name: tenpoundsofcheese: Z-clipped: Assistance and education for poor and disadvantaged people (of all colours) would benefit everyone in the long run.

Yeah, maybe we should have a law that says that everyone gets a free K-12 education.

Free? It's funny how we can spend more money per child than any other country on Earth to provide them a free education. And by "funny", I mean "it's not free".

duh...I never implied that the teachers weren't getting paid or the buildings were building themselves.

you don't have to pay to have your child educated.

Some people pay a lot of taxes to cover those costs and may have no kids, some people pay nothing and may have 2 kids.


College motherfarker, did you go to it?

/why am I replying to this troll?
 
2013-02-18 12:16:49 AM

GF named my left testicle thundercles: if i recall correctly from the bureau of justice statistics ,  about 50% of all murder victims and murders are black, but blacks are 13% of the overall population.


And yet it's the racist court systems fault that there are so many blacks in prison... The willful disconnect that some people show is amazing to me.
 
2013-02-18 12:19:26 AM
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2013-02-18 12:19:50 AM
This was twenty-five years ago.  And pretty much the only thing that's changed since then is that kids are jacking iPhones from each other now instead of gold chains.
 
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