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(Chron)   The Alamo will exhibit the historic "victory or death" letter written by Lt. Col. William Travis. The letter will be displayed in the Alamo's basement   (chron.com) divider line 19
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2013-02-17 03:05:59 PM  
3 votes:
I'll go check it out, after I find my bicycle.
2013-02-17 06:02:47 PM  
2 votes:
It seems typical of American rhetoric that "Liberty or Death" is their battle cry when one of their grievances was the fact they couldn't keep slaves.  Did no one back then even notice this?  It's almost like the First Amendment should have been the right to cognitive dissonance.
2013-02-17 04:29:56 PM  
2 votes:

calbert: [farm9.staticflickr.com image 640x350]

/obscure?


It's so obscure it's directly referenced in the headline and in every comment thereafter.
2013-02-17 04:02:06 PM  
2 votes:
farm9.staticflickr.com

/obscure?
2013-02-17 02:57:05 PM  
2 votes:
In a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of Leopard?
2013-02-17 10:41:23 PM  
1 votes:

hasty ambush: TheBigLie: They may have had a very valid point, but still. They were rebelling against the government of the country they voluntarily moved to.

They were rebelling against a dictator who took over the government of the country they moved to.  Santa Anna disolved congress and established a dictatorship. American immigrant Texans were not the ony ones who rebelled. Mamy Mexicans in Texas , as well as several other Mexican states also rebelled, among them:  Coahuila y Tejas, San Luis Potosí, Querétaro, Durango, Guanajuato, Michoacán, Yucatán, Jalisco, Nuevo León, Tamaulipas, and Zacatecas.

 Texas was the only one that succeeded.  Had they failed the people of the US Southwest would now be enjoying the same high standard of living now enjoyed by the people of Mexico.

The rebellion started out as an effort to restore the Constitution of 1824 not gain independence.


/The more you know.


You forgot the slavery part.
2013-02-17 09:44:14 PM  
1 votes:
Growing up in 1960s San Antonio us school kids were treated to several field trips to the Alamo every year where we were indoctrinated to the myth that the evil, arch villain Santa Ana and Mexicans had unfairly slaughtered our freedom loving heroes in an epic battle of monumental proportions. As we all know now it was just a little squabble, the real battle for Texas Independence happened in San Jacinto.

Turns out those freedom fighters had all immigrated to the country of Mexico from Europe and agreed by law to become Catholics in exchange for free land and protection from the savage Comanches marauding the land at the time. Then, when the government of Mexico got tired of the settlers subverting society by worshiping a pagan deity (imagine that) and started enforcing the law, they decided they'd rather be part of the United States. Yea, I know, everyone thinks Texas was an independent country and that's what it wanted. But that's wrong. The whole idea was to get statehood. But the government of the US at the time didn't want their stinking asses.

It warms my heart that The Alamo is such a great internet meme/joke involving Ozzy Osbourne and Pee Wee Herman. Because for so many years those old biatches who guarded the place wouldn't even let a picture be taken inside its walls. It wasn't until around 2004 they allowed the Today Show and Jane Pauley to do a sit down interview inside. I mean, it's pretty damn obvious what they've been doing to maintain the charade all these years.

As a historic battle site the Alamo has enjoyed a level of sacredness few other houses of worship enjoy. And they let you know it with the plaque on the front door
farm8.staticflickr.com
They act like you're visiting the Vatican or something.
2013-02-17 08:26:31 PM  
1 votes:
Isn't it nice that these Progs hate everything that even smacks of honor and pride in the American Ideal? They are absolutely compelled to attack and mock the slightest hint of legendary American myth.

The beauty of it all, tho, is that they have long since reduced themselves to subhuman status. Their hatred of non-socialists has resulted in a reaction that they will find to be historic, and massive...

By all means, keep it up. No one would dream of building new gas tight showers and crematoriums, and processing units based on Leftist voter rolls and union memberships lists...
2013-02-17 08:20:51 PM  
1 votes:

Zarquon's Flat Tire: In a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying Beware of Leopard?


Don't be silly.  That's where we keep the bypass plans.
2013-02-17 07:59:29 PM  
1 votes:

Avenger: Any 26 year old soldier in 2013 would be ridiculed and tossed aside based solely on age, much less lead an army or small force. It's hard for me to understand why we venerate young people in the past and constantly defecate on them in the present.


Because to too many people their children are precious snow flakes that must be nursed until they turn 30, then they can't get them out of the house fast enough.
2013-02-17 07:53:19 PM  
1 votes:
Any 26 year old soldier in 2013 would be ridiculed and tossed aside based solely on age, much less lead an army or small force. It's hard for me to understand why we venerate young people in the past and constantly defecate on them in the present.
2013-02-17 07:43:49 PM  
1 votes:
Ya.  The general idea I had on the Texas revolution was a bunch of Americans moved there, Santa Anna turned it into a craphole, so they said we wanna be part of America now.  They may have had a very valid point, but still.  They were rebelling against the government of the country they voluntarily moved to.  If this happened in modern times most people here on fark would tell em to move back to their own country and quit whining.

FTA it makes me think of medication ads   Zit-be-gone.  removes acne.  side effects may include headache, nausea, death, rash
Liberty for Texas!!  Santa Anna's a dick, treats us like crap, several legitimate gripes, wont let us keep slaves, turned this country into a slum.  LIBERTY
2013-02-17 06:58:25 PM  
1 votes:
What's surprising to learn is that those who took a stand at the Alamo didn't last very long at all.  Once the Mexican Army decided to attack they lasted something like 90 minutes.  Small surprise, really, given how enormously outnumbered they were.
2013-02-17 06:56:49 PM  
1 votes:

TheBigLie: It seems typical of American rhetoric that "Liberty or Death" is their battle cry when one of their grievances was the fact they couldn't keep slaves.  Did no one back then even notice this?  It's almost like the First Amendment should have been the right to cognitive dissonance.


The Texans were just demonstrating the time-honored principle that when you immigrate to another country you speak their language, adopt their customs, and above all, obey their laws.
2013-02-17 06:53:31 PM  
1 votes:

TheBigLie: It seems typical of American rhetoric that "Liberty or Death" is their battle cry when one of their grievances was the fact they couldn't keep slaves.  Did no one back then even notice this?  It's almost like the First Amendment should have been the right to cognitive dissonance.


Slavery was not the central reason.  There were several other Mexican states that rebeled at the same time, and slavery had been conceded prior to the revolution.   The Bexar Remonstrance outlines most of the issues which were complicated when Santa Anna centeralized the government.
2013-02-17 06:20:28 PM  
1 votes:

aerojockey: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: calbert: /obscure?

Are you retarded?

How does the hook in your mouth feel?


Like a garbage truck dropped off the Empire State Building.
2013-02-17 06:13:24 PM  
1 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: calbert: /obscure?

Are you retarded?


How does the hook in your mouth feel?
2013-02-17 05:56:06 PM  
1 votes:
I'm guessing that the answer was "Death", amirite?
2013-02-17 05:48:19 PM  
1 votes:
I'll never fully understand why the first Taco Bell meant so much to Texas settlers, but here we are.
 
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