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(BBC)   Apparently trees are more important than people, as environmentalists set fire to Greek gold mine   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 37
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2013-02-17 12:04:16 PM  
6 votes:
Subby, let me know when you can eat gold.
2013-02-17 01:58:59 PM  
5 votes:
These folks are unmoved by the lure of jobs and money, preferring unemployment and poverty rather than risk potential environmental damage that might occur in the future.  At least they're sticking by their principles.
2013-02-17 12:05:24 PM  
5 votes:
People need trees in order to have their carbon dioxide recycled back into breathable oxygen.  People need gold like they need another hole in the head.
2013-02-17 02:23:52 PM  
4 votes:
Bingham Canyon Mine
liberals see this as crime against humanity.
normal people understand it is the most productive use of remote and otherwise unusable land imaginable and it allows us to enjoy the high standard of living and low mortality rates we are accustomed to without giving up very much at all.
this mine has employed thousands of people every year (at times up to 10,000 just in direct mining) for 140 years.
after hundreds of years of operation, it still supplies 15% of u.s. demand for copper (about 50% of copper comes from recycling, so around 30% of demand for new copper in the u.s. comes from these 1900 acres that only a handful of people would have otherwise ever even stepped foot on).
over it's life it has produced 217 billion in copper, gold, and molybdenum.
that's $114 million per acre in materials needed to create a modern society.

www.usmra.com

they'd prefer it and mines like it never existed and therefore the electrification of the united states and the world as we know it never took place.

you can't expect rational thought get good governance out of ideological zealots.
2013-02-17 02:17:32 PM  
4 votes:
I love how it has to be one or the other.  Is it a big deal to require companies to be a good steward of the land?  Is it a big deal for people to calm the fark down about every single tree and see that modern society needs to do certain things to be, you know, a modern society?
2013-02-17 02:05:59 PM  
4 votes:
There are crack houses that are less harmful to people than gold mines, and people set fire to them all of the time.

/didn't read article
//not on crack
2013-02-17 01:51:06 PM  
4 votes:
So is this about the time the hippies show up to fark? seriously... a gold mine operation would bring jobs to the area. Greece has been suffering from high unemployment for quite some time now and they need those jobs.

If you are so against mining, be sure to abandon your vehicle and get off the computer. those components inside of them were brought to you by mining.
2013-02-17 03:30:15 PM  
3 votes:

2wolves: Subby, let me know when you can eat gold.


The weird part is that most of the gold produced is destined never to be "used".  It will most likely be dug up to be smelted into a 0.999 brick under the careful watch of armed security, and then locked on a shelf in a cold, dark vault for the same sort of eternal stasis it enjoyed in the ground.

There it will do nothing but exist.  It will likely never be eaten or worn or refined into electronics plating.  For security reasons, there will surely be tight controls and only a handful of inventory people are brought in to swear to its mere existence in the first place.

I understand the economy and all.  I'm just seeing some Hitchhiker's Guide perverse weirdness in destroying an area for a commodity no one actually uses.
2013-02-17 02:08:31 PM  
3 votes:
Well as mining waste for gold is really toxic I can understand. How about they release the type of mining they are going to do.
2013-02-17 01:59:48 PM  
3 votes:

gravebayne2: If you are so against mining, be sure to abandon your vehicle and get off the computer. those components inside of them were brought to you by mining.


Hmm, oxygen, or my computer. Tough choice.
2013-02-17 11:56:53 AM  
3 votes:
Mining companies don't give a damn about people either.

The latest mining technique invlves destructions of mountain tops... And they don't even try to do a restoration when it's over.
2013-02-17 03:44:46 PM  
2 votes:

Hack Patooey: I love how it has to be one or the other.  Is it a big deal to require companies to be a good steward of the land?  Is it a big deal for people to calm the fark down about every single tree and see that modern society needs to do certain things to be, you know, a modern society?


This. I HATE these choices. Would you prefer poverty and unemployment, or a landscape ruined by industrial waste? I want neither! Isn't there another choice?
2013-02-17 02:49:21 PM  
2 votes:

2wolves: Subby, let me know when you can eat gold.


You can. It's merely a technicality...

The most famous case of Shuar "insolence" occurred in 1599, when the Spanish governor of Maca demanded a gold tax from local Indians to fund a celebration of the coronation of Philip III. The night before the tax was due, Shuar armies slaughtered every adult male in the Spanish hamlets and surrounded the governor's home. They tied the governor to his bed and used a bone to push freshly melted gold down his throat, laughing and demanding to know if he had finally sated his thirst.
http://www.salon.com/2013/02/10/to_get_the_gold_they_will_h ave_to_kill _every_one_of_us/
2013-02-17 02:10:50 PM  
2 votes:
Trees ARE more important than people. EVERYONE knows that.
2013-02-17 02:00:44 PM  
2 votes:
Liberals are funny and sad at the same time...
2013-02-17 01:56:24 PM  
2 votes:
Depends on the person and the tree, really.
2013-02-17 01:51:10 PM  
2 votes:
I wonder what archaeological sites they're going to trash for this.
2013-02-17 12:24:28 PM  
2 votes:
Trees are more important than people. A tree is never critical. A tree will always be your friend. A tree will hold still for sex.
2013-02-17 04:16:03 PM  
1 votes:
Trees provide me oxygen.

People compete with me for resources.

The choice is clear.
2013-02-17 04:12:29 PM  
1 votes:

relcec: iaazathot: you can't expect rational thought get good governance out of ideological zealots.

That's a mighty nice straw man you have there.


most of these dimwits would prefer open pit mining and mountain top removal (by far the most efficient mining possible), never mind mining that just requires cutting down trees, never existed and would ban it if given the opportunity to the detriment of the entire human population.

Frank Parnell: Hmm, oxygen, or my computer. Tough choice.

Darth_Lukecash [TotalFark]: Mining companies don't give a damn about people either. The latest mining technique invlves destructions of mountain tops... And they don't even try to do a restoration when it's over.

Herr Docktor Heinrich Wisenheimer [TotalFark]: Lead, mercury, and arsenic are good for you citizen! Rich people who don't live nearby need more shiny rocks!

The My Little Pony Killer: People need trees in order to have their carbon dioxide recycled back into breathable oxygen.  People need gold like they need another hole in the head.

2wolves: Subby, let me know when you can eat gold.

that's no strawman, it's how many think around here.
there's no question of cost versus benefit or possible mitigation strategies. just pure unadulterated froth and nonsense from a bunch of childish zealots.
/tell me the turth, wouldn't you yourself actually rather Bingham Canyon Mine never existed. doesn't it actually look like a terrible scar on the bosom of mother earth rather than am efficient and necessary extraction of resources in the name of technological and human progress to you?


It is ugly as sin but it does serve its purpose.

That being said, I vote for a middle ground in which the mining can be done without causing too much harm and damage to the environment.

Guess that's a crazy thing to ask for.
2013-02-17 04:08:31 PM  
1 votes:

iaazathot: you can't expect rational thought get good governance out of ideological zealots.

That's a mighty nice straw man you have there.



most of these dimwits would prefer open pit mining and mountain top removal (by far the most efficient mining possible), never mind mining that just requires cutting down trees, never existed and would ban it if given the opportunity to the detriment of the entire human population.

Frank Parnell: Hmm, oxygen, or my computer. Tough choice.

Darth_Lukecash [TotalFark]: Mining companies don't give a damn about people either. The latest mining technique invlves destructions of mountain tops... And they don't even try to do a restoration when it's over.

Herr Docktor Heinrich Wisenheimer [TotalFark]: Lead, mercury, and arsenic are good for you citizen! Rich people who don't live nearby need more shiny rocks!

The My Little Pony Killer: People need trees in order to have their carbon dioxide recycled back into breathable oxygen.  People need gold like they need another hole in the head.

2wolves: Subby, let me know when you can eat gold.

that's no strawman, it's how many think around here.
there's no question of cost versus benefit or possible mitigation strategies. just pure unadulterated froth and nonsense from a bunch of childish zealots.
/tell me the turth, wouldn't you yourself actually rather Bingham Canyon Mine never existed. doesn't it actually look like a terrible scar on the bosom of mother earth rather than am efficient and necessary extraction of resources in the name of technological and human progress to you?
2013-02-17 04:03:02 PM  
1 votes:
I think that the world would do better without man than it would without trees, so yeah, in a sense, trees are more important than people.

:-D
2013-02-17 03:57:50 PM  
1 votes:
You can print money, but you can't make more trees.

Good for the environmentalists.  The mining company was probably avoiding taxes and replacing equipment will net more jobs.
2013-02-17 03:42:05 PM  
1 votes:

J. Frank Parnell: Mister Peejay: We've been able to do that for a while, but it's far cheaper to just dig it out of a hole in the ground.

Interestingly, the very first people to do it back in 2007 claimed they could make tonnes of gold cheaply and relatively fast, but as you'll notice most of the articles have since been removed from the internet. Must just be a coincidence, because conspiracies never happen.


I also note with tinfoil-hatted interest that there has been a huge smear campaign against the author of that article.  Google searches for more of Mr. Ben Dover's articles only gets pornography and facetious commentary.
2013-02-17 03:36:14 PM  
1 votes:

Mister Peejay: We've been able to do that for a while, but it's far cheaper to just dig it out of a hole in the ground.


Interestingly, the very first people to do it back in 2007 claimed they could make tonnes of gold cheaply and relatively fast, but as you'll notice most of the articles have since been removed from the internet. Must just be a coincidence, because conspiracies never happen.
2013-02-17 03:35:58 PM  
1 votes:

Oznog: There it will do nothing but exist.  It will likely never be eaten or worn or refined into electronics plating.  For security reasons, there will surely be tight controls and only a handful of inventory people are brought in to swear to its mere existence in the first place.

I understand the economy and all.  I'm just seeing some Hitchhiker's Guide perverse weirdness in destroying an area for a commodity no one actually uses.



So while it is sitting in those vaults, is no one using it for anything?  Seems like a waste.  Why bother to dig it up in the first place?
2013-02-17 03:10:19 PM  
1 votes:

relcec: Bingham Canyon Mine
liberals see this as crime against humanity.


www.theinternational.org

Difference is Greece is a major holiday destination for the rest of Europe. Would you holiday here?
2013-02-17 03:08:25 PM  
1 votes:

relcec: Bingham Canyon Mine
liberals see this as crime against humanity.
normal people understand it is the most productive use of remote and otherwise unusable land imaginable and it allows us to enjoy the high standard of living and low mortality rates we are accustomed to without giving up very much at all.
this mine has employed thousands of people every year (at times up to 10,000 just in direct mining) for 140 years.
after hundreds of years of operation, it still supplies 15% of u.s. demand for copper (about 50% of copper comes from recycling, so around 30% of demand for new copper in the u.s. comes from these 1900 acres that only a handful of people would have otherwise ever even stepped foot on).
over it's life it has produced 217 billion in copper, gold, and molybdenum.
that's $114 million per acre in materials needed to create a modern society.

[www.usmra.com image 500x354]

they'd prefer it and mines like it never existed and therefore the electrification of the united states and the world as we know it never took place.

you can't expect rational thought get good governance out of ideological zealots.


That'sa mighty nice straw man you have there.
2013-02-17 03:02:23 PM  
1 votes:

relcec: Bingham Canyon Mine
liberals see this as crime against humanity.
normal people understand it is the most productive use of remote and otherwise unusable land imaginable and it allows us to enjoy the high standard of living and low mortality rates we are accustomed to without giving up very much at all.
this mine has employed thousands of people every year (at times up to 10,000 just in direct mining) for 140 years.
after hundreds of years of operation, it still supplies 15% of u.s. demand for copper (about 50% of copper comes from recycling, so around 30% of demand for new copper in the u.s. comes from these 1900 acres that only a handful of people would have otherwise ever even stepped foot on).
over it's life it has produced 217 billion in copper, gold, and molybdenum.
that's $114 million per acre in materials needed to create a modern society.

[www.usmra.com image 500x354]

they'd prefer it and mines like it never existed and therefore the electrification of the united states and the world as we know it never took place.

you can't expect rational thought get good governance out of ideological zealots.


So your point is that since mines like this exist, we should obviously build them in every possible location on earth?  No that wasn't your point?  Then you aren't making any sense, as we weren't talking about a remote mine.

Are you just too ignorant to understand the actual controversy?
2013-02-17 02:49:47 PM  
1 votes:
Greco-terrorists?
2013-02-17 02:39:30 PM  
1 votes:

The My Little Pony Killer: People need trees in order to have their carbon dioxide recycled back into breathable oxygen.  People need gold like they need another hole in the head.


By extension to that, we can always use more trees for more oxygen production, habitat development, and occasional fuel source.

We need more people for...hmm...exactly nothing.
2013-02-17 02:35:11 PM  
1 votes:

Kibbler: Mining companies value human life above all things.


Not sure if serious.

Either way, funny'd.

Kibbler: Environmentalists care for nothing but murder murder murder.


The extremists really screw up what is a legitimate concern.
2013-02-17 02:34:57 PM  
1 votes:

Kibbler: Mining companies value human life above all things.

Environmentalists care for nothing but murder murder murder.


I also frequent freerepublic.com
2013-02-17 02:27:10 PM  
1 votes:
Trees' of course are more important than anything you've ever produced Subby.

/dumb submitter
2013-02-17 02:02:38 PM  
1 votes:
Subsistence living is how everyone who is not me should live.
2013-02-17 02:01:29 PM  
1 votes:
You need gold for electronics. My smartphone is worth more than some Greek babby
2013-02-17 12:59:14 PM  
1 votes:
Lead, mercury, and arsenic are good for you citizen! Rich people who don't live nearby need more shiny rocks!
 
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