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2013-02-17 12:37:56 PM
Just kill Andrea, please.
 
2013-02-17 12:43:50 PM
Prediction:  Andrea becomes pregnant with the Governor's zombie baby.
 
2013-02-17 12:56:27 PM
As crazy as Rick was in the comics (and he was pretty damn crazy), he was mostly able to keep that shiat to himself.

Television-Rick is going nuts right in front of everybody and making it tough to believe that everybody should still look to him as a leader.
 
2013-02-17 02:34:21 PM
This show just sucks now. Maybe I should keep a list of characters they've totally ruined;

Dale
Lori (kind of sucked in the comic too)
Andrea
The Governor
Tyrese*
Rick*

* because they're trying to ruin them
 
2013-02-17 02:45:10 PM

justtray: This show just sucks now. Maybe I should keep a list of characters they've totally ruined;

Dale
Lori (kind of sucked in the comic too)
Andrea
The Governor
Tyrese*
Rick*

* because they're trying to ruin them


It's hard to say the show has been ruined given the massive ratings, but I do wonder if the overall quality is suffering from the turnover in showrunners.  Darabont was doing some really interesting and innovative things in the first season until interference from AMC led to the weaknesses of season 2.  Mazzara got the show back on track but in the process made it more formulaic.  I have no idea what the next guy is going to do, but I fear it's going to end up like the comics where it becomes so nihilistic that the audience just gets tired of it.  It seems they write themselves into corners with characters and then take the easy way out by killing them off.  Still love the show, but I wonder how much more staying power it has after this season.
 
2013-02-17 02:45:53 PM

justtray: This show just sucks now. Maybe I should keep a list of characters they've totally ruined;

Dale
Lori (kind of sucked in the comic too)
Andrea
The Governor
Tyrese*
Rick*

* because they're trying to ruin them


I don't think they've totally ruined the Governor.  I think the show version of him is fine.  Tyreese hasn't been around long enough to say whether or not the show version is worse/better than the comic version.

Andrea is the worst adaptation from the comic.  I guess some of her traits shifted towards Carol, but it still would have been nice to have the badass sniper from the comic.
 
2013-02-17 02:50:05 PM

NeoCortex42: I don't think they've totally ruined the Governor. I think the show version of him is fine. Tyreese hasn't been around long enough to say whether or not the show version is worse/better than the comic version.

Andrea is the worst adaptation from the comic. I guess some of her traits shifted towards Carol, but it still would have been nice to have the badass sniper from the comic.


The Governor in the comics was too much of a sadistic Snidely Whiplash.  I think they've done a much better job with the show version.  They ruined Lori though.  After last season, they had no choice but to kill the character because it was impossible to take her seriously anymore.
 
2013-02-17 03:04:00 PM

Mentat: NeoCortex42: I don't think they've totally ruined the Governor. I think the show version of him is fine. Tyreese hasn't been around long enough to say whether or not the show version is worse/better than the comic version.

Andrea is the worst adaptation from the comic. I guess some of her traits shifted towards Carol, but it still would have been nice to have the badass sniper from the comic.

The Governor in the comics was too much of a sadistic Snidely Whiplash.  I think they've done a much better job with the show version.  They ruined Lori though.  After last season, they had no choice but to kill the character because it was impossible to take her seriously anymore.


Comic Lori wasn't that much better.  Offing her in the comic was just as necessary.
 
2013-02-17 03:09:35 PM
Comic book Darryl and Merle were better than TV show Darryl and Merle
 
2013-02-17 03:26:22 PM
Looks like Talking Dead tonight is going to feature Kirkman as a guest.  Could be interesting.  Also, the guy that plays Alcide on True Blood.  So, there's that, I guess.

I like the show-related guests on Talking Dead, but could do without some of the random other people.
 
2013-02-17 04:00:34 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Just kill Andrea, please.


Hell no, she's got a banging body.
 
2013-02-17 04:55:06 PM

Popcorn Johnny: thismomentinblackhistory: Just kill Andrea, please.

Hell no, she's got a banging body.


Maggie's the hot one. And in real life she has a British accent, not that bad southern drawl.
 
2013-02-17 05:34:51 PM

Popcorn Johnny: thismomentinblackhistory: Just kill Andrea, please.

Hell no, she's got a banging body.


Then just fark Andrea. Don't care if she's sloppy gubernatorial seconds.
 
2013-02-17 06:15:02 PM
I haven't read the books, so the only frame of reference I have is the show--which is so far a good show.  So, pardon me if this ruffles feathers but a possible rest of the season based on the show dynamics so far:

www.amctv.com

Feeling like he's totally losing it goes into exile, perhaps even self-imposed.

static1.businessinsider.com

Meet the new ever-suffering voice of reason, now with less Carl-centered hand-wrining.

latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com

Guess who finds Rick and helps him come back from insanity and certain death.

zombieresearchsociety.com

"Hey guys."

wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net

"Hey Daryl.  What happened to Merle?"

zombieresearchsociety.com

"He didn't make it through the expository subplot about redemption and family. How's Glenn doing? His card should be just about punched at this point."

t2.gstatic.com

"Oh, sh*t."

www.pinkraygun.com

"Oh sh*t, I let myself become annoying, didn't I?  Just give me a nice melodramatic send-off, okay?"


Or something like that.
 
2013-02-17 06:33:54 PM
"The horror....the horror...."

www.amctv.com
 
2013-02-17 07:10:56 PM
I have my problems with the show, but damn am I glad I never read the comic.

/I have to read them now don't I?
 
2013-02-17 07:14:43 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Just kill Andrea, please.


LOL Whatever...

i521.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-17 07:16:48 PM

NeoCortex42: Mentat: NeoCortex42: I don't think they've totally ruined the Governor. I think the show version of him is fine. Tyreese hasn't been around long enough to say whether or not the show version is worse/better than the comic version.

Andrea is the worst adaptation from the comic. I guess some of her traits shifted towards Carol, but it still would have been nice to have the badass sniper from the comic.

The Governor in the comics was too much of a sadistic Snidely Whiplash.  I think they've done a much better job with the show version.  They ruined Lori though.  After last season, they had no choice but to kill the character because it was impossible to take her seriously anymore.

Comic Lori wasn't that much better.  Offing her in the comic was just as necessary.


One Bad Apple: Comic book Darryl and Merle were better than TV show Darryl and Merle


Then just read the comic and STFU
 
2013-02-17 07:26:07 PM

One Bad Apple: Comic book Darryl and Merle were better than TV show Darryl and Merle


Did they show up later? I read through 60 or so issues over Christmas break and didn't see them even after the prison. Maybe I missed them.
 
2013-02-17 07:49:10 PM
LET THE DARRYL AND MERLE REDNECK ROAD WARRIOR EXTRAVAGANZA COMMENCE!!!!

/geeking out for some apocalyptic Dukes of Hazzard action, if you can't tell
 
2013-02-17 07:58:16 PM

Madbassist1: thismomentinblackhistory: Just kill Andrea, please.

LOL Whatever...

[i521.photobucket.com image 500x433]


Pussies.  Real zombie survivors by this time should have kill counts in the high hundreds if not thousands.
 
2013-02-17 08:04:05 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: One Bad Apple: Comic book Darryl and Merle were better than TV show Darryl and Merle

Did they show up later? I read through 60 or so issues over Christmas break and didn't see them even after the prison. Maybe I missed them.


No. I think he's trolling.

Daryl Dixon is a fictional character from the American television series The Walking Dead, portrayed by Norman Reedus. He is an original character and has no comic counterpart.
Same for Merle.
 
2013-02-17 08:20:47 PM

Kentucky Fried Children: LET THE DARRYL AND MERLE REDNECK ROAD WARRIOR EXTRAVAGANZA COMMENCE!!!!

/geeking out for some apocalyptic Dukes of Hazzard action, if you can't tell


I, for one, would like to see zombie Daisy.

/Zombie Boss Hogg was in the well
 
2013-02-17 08:27:04 PM

Madbassist1: thismomentinblackhistory: Just kill Andrea, please.

LOL Whatever...

[i521.photobucket.com image 500x433]


Meh.  Carl killed 1,123 just on the way to the infirmary.
 
2013-02-17 08:27:08 PM
Quite a pity about Andrea, she's easily the biggest badass in the books.
 
2013-02-17 08:44:04 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: One Bad Apple: Comic book Darryl and Merle were better than TV show Darryl and Merle

Did they show up later? I read through 60 or so issues over Christmas break and didn't see them even after the prison. Maybe I missed them.


No. Apparently Daryl will be showing up in the near future, though.
 
2013-02-17 08:51:42 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: Just kill Andrea, please.


No, not yet. She's pretty awesome in the comic, and I'm hoping they do the same on the TV series.
 
2013-02-17 08:51:45 PM
dammit to hell. it's 10 to 9:00, missed it again. why don't they wait till farking cartoons are over to broadcast the WD? dooshbags.

/ piss me off
 
2013-02-17 08:54:34 PM

KrispyKritter: dammit to hell. it's 10 to 9:00, missed it again. why don't they wait till farking cartoons are over to broadcast the WD? dooshbags.

/ piss me off


No, you didn't miss anything. The new episode doesn't come on for another six minutes.
 
2013-02-17 08:57:29 PM

KrispyKritter: dammit to hell. it's 10 to 9:00, missed it again. why don't they wait till farking cartoons are over to broadcast the WD? dooshbags.

/ piss me off


L2Timezone
 
2013-02-17 09:02:12 PM
Tyrese should be the new leader, while Rick recuperates.
Maybe Tyrese and Merle can have the T-Dog/Merle showdown we were cheated out of in the fall.

Andrea is dead to me.

Glenn needs to get his act together, as well.  Getting constant access to pussy ruined his character.

Morgan needs to come back so Carl and Duane can trade bad-ass survival stories.

Morgan's wife can be the semi-intelligent zombie every zombie story leads up to.Morgan can pull her teeth out for a less creepy version of what happened in the comics with the Governor and his niece.

Carol needs to continue on her quiet trajectory of being the bad ass in the background, the dark horse.

Hershel needs to keep being cool old man.

Milton needs to join the prison, and find true love with that boy in Tyrese's group.  Or the dad.  Either or. We need a homo couple to root for.  No, I'm not kidding.

Schubert needs to follow his heart and rescue his true love Michonne from Rick's continued bad treatment of her (come on, locking her in her own cell *still*? total bullshiat).  And then Tyrese and Schubert can have uneasy alpha male scenes while the audience tries to guess who's going to be The Next N To Die.
 
2013-02-17 09:02:29 PM
Ghost Lori is hot.
 
2013-02-17 09:02:44 PM
Ghost Lori is as annoying as Live Lori.
 
2013-02-17 09:03:26 PM
Aaaaaannd Rick is completely insane.
 
2013-02-17 09:03:32 PM
Um, I have it on AMC. The AMC logo is in the bottom right corner. The DVR says Walking Dead is on right now. And Anaconda is playing........a little help?
 
2013-02-17 09:03:46 PM

psychicdeath99: Ghost Lori is as annoying as Live Lori.


She dresses nicer at least
 
2013-02-17 09:03:54 PM
WTF?
 
2013-02-17 09:03:58 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Ghost Lori is hot.


Is that a body double
 
2013-02-17 09:04:27 PM
Pull it together, dude. I couldn't stand your wife when she was alive. I'm starting to hate her even more dead.
 
2013-02-17 09:04:39 PM

justtray: This show just sucks now. Maybe I should keep a list of characters they've totally ruined;

Dale
Lori (kind of sucked in the comic too)
Andrea
The Governor
Tyrese*
Rick*

* because they're trying to ruin them


Per what I implied earlier (and this has nothing to do with the comics):

Dale:

t3.gstatic.com

Made this face one too many times on his long spiral into complete uselessness.
Annoying scale-- 10  Result:  Horrible death.

Lori:

media.comicvine.com

Fate was sealed from this exact point, anyway, but expertise in repeatedly losing her child without having to face any outraged judgment was the big loud boring cherry on top.
Annoyance scale--9 (-1 for realistic and accessible hotness) Result:  Gut wrenchingly horrific death


Andrea:

cdn2.mamapop.com

Destructively poor taste in men.

Annoyance level 2 (sexiness, badassery almost negates tiresome behavior) Result: still ticking


The Governor:

wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net

"What the f*ck am I doing on this list, gooberboy?"

Annoyance level--0 Solid villain Result--still kickin

static1.businessinsider.com

"What the governor said."
Annoyance level-- -10.  Seriously man. The guy who brought us Cutty Wise is untouchable.


Rick:

juliekenner.com

"My annoying wife's dead, I killed my best friend, my little brat turned into a sociopathic force of death, I sawed that judgmental veterinarian's foot off, and I kept Glenn alive just long enough to outstay his welcome.  WTF can you possibly want from me?"

I have heard that the show has been consistently and dramatically different than the books, which makes a discussion of them moot.  I'm not sure how things worked in them, but it is apparent that in the televised Walking Dead universe, life expectancy is directly related to boring screentime, and annoyance level is directly related to the brutality involved in killing said character off.  If that's not a show that cares about its audience, I don't know what is.
 
2013-02-17 09:04:47 PM
WHAR WALKING DEAD, WHAR?
 
2013-02-17 09:04:51 PM
Hey, the conversation's up here, buddy.
 
2013-02-17 09:04:52 PM

megalynn44: Um, I have it on AMC. The AMC logo is in the bottom right corner. The DVR says Walking Dead is on right now. And Anaconda is playing........a little help?


Anaconda is about a big snake.
 
2013-02-17 09:05:08 PM
Michonne: He MAD!
 
2013-02-17 09:05:17 PM
How long before Rick goes up to give Lori a smooch and it turns out to be a zombie in a dress?
 
2013-02-17 09:05:20 PM
It's even advertising the new episode of Walking Dead tonight at 9/8 central. What in the ever living shiat?
 
2013-02-17 09:05:31 PM
Crazy Rick is crazy.
Can't we just go back to the phone?

At what point does it become obvious to the groups that he's in no condition to lead?
 
2013-02-17 09:05:32 PM
Ghost Lorie is lookin' pretty good (compared to zombie bride last week)

/Rick's 'bout to get some ghost ass
 
2013-02-17 09:05:40 PM
Here's where Ghost Lori starts nagging Rick and telling him everything he did wrong.
 
2013-02-17 09:05:44 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! WHY WON'T YOU STAY DEAD?
 
2013-02-17 09:06:06 PM
Man, Rick's really going off the deep end.  He seems really affected by the baby - I wonder how that will play out.

/Ghost Lori looks so pretty
 
2013-02-17 09:06:08 PM
Is there another show as annoying as Comicbook Men?
 
2013-02-17 09:06:42 PM

megalynn44: It's even advertising the new episode of Walking Dead tonight at 9/8 central. What in the ever living shiat?


west coast feed? recording? anaconda was on earlier.
 
2013-02-17 09:06:51 PM

HempHead: OtherLittleGuy: Ghost Lori is hot.

Is that a body double


Wow. I thought it was last episode. She certainly looks better when she's not covered in dirt and blood.
 
2013-02-17 09:07:01 PM

basemetal: WHAR WALKING DEAD, WHAR?


looks like it's just you and me. Hold me.
 
2013-02-17 09:07:16 PM

Kentucky Fried Children: Ghost Lorie is lookin' pretty good (compared to zombie bride last week)

/Rick's 'bout to get some ghost ass


Hopefully we at least get some spectral side boob
 
2013-02-17 09:07:53 PM

Popcorn Johnny: How long before Rick goes up to give Lori a smooch and it turns out to be a zombie in a dress?


Does the prison have a Room 237?
 
2013-02-17 09:08:01 PM
I want that Challenger R/T
 
2013-02-17 09:08:02 PM

Tencolin: HempHead: OtherLittleGuy: Ghost Lori is hot.

Is that a body double

Wow. I thought it was last episode. She certainly looks better when she's not covered in dirt and blood.


Someone posted a picture of Ghost Lori last week and it was her, but with a zombie face.
 
2013-02-17 09:08:03 PM

One Bad Apple: Kentucky Fried Children: Ghost Lorie is lookin' pretty good (compared to zombie bride last week)

/Rick's 'bout to get some ghost ass

Hopefully we at least get some spectral side boob


are you guys really that starved for some boob?
 
2013-02-17 09:08:19 PM
Can we get Ghost Betty Draper for Mad Men?
 
2013-02-17 09:08:27 PM
So, who saves Rick when he inevitably lets a zombie get too close during one of his Lori hallucinations? Michonne, or the new guy?
 
2013-02-17 09:08:43 PM
All aboard the Rick Grime's crazy train!
 
2013-02-17 09:08:49 PM

megalynn44: The DVR says Walking Dead is on right now. And Anaconda is playing........a little help?


Yeah, Ice Cube is grabbed by the anaconda and is constricted but don't worry, he survives.
 
2013-02-17 09:08:49 PM
I'm here

Did anyone else notice that Darryl wasn't listed in the opening credits?
 
2013-02-17 09:09:04 PM

HempHead: Is there another show as annoying as Comicbook Men?


Hardcore Pawn.
 
2013-02-17 09:09:10 PM

thamike: justtray: This show just sucks now. Maybe I should keep a list of characters they've totally ruined;

Dale:

[t3.gstatic.com image 233x217]

Made this face one too many times on his long spiral into complete uselessness.
Annoying scale-- 10  Result:  Horrible death.


I was watching an old episode of "Law & Order" about a week ago and Dale was a defense lawyer. He maintained that same expression and overblown sense of self-righteousness. His hair was brown though, and he was wearing a very nice suit. So there was that.
 
2013-02-17 09:09:19 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: megalynn44: It's even advertising the new episode of Walking Dead tonight at 9/8 central. What in the ever living shiat?

west coast feed? recording? anaconda was on earlier.


I'm in the Central time zone but have a pretty shiatty cable provider (only one available). Our DVR says Walking Dead is on right now, but like I said, Anaconda just started instead. We can't record it later. Sunday night DVR recordings are a stack of cards. You shift things and EVERYTHING COLLAPSES! farking hell.
 
2013-02-17 09:09:20 PM

we'refromthesamestory:


are you guys really that starved for some boob?


.....Yes


EIP ?
 
2013-02-17 09:09:56 PM

geom_00: I'm here

Did anyone else notice that Darryl wasn't listed in the opening credits?


DON'T REMIND US! :(
 
2013-02-17 09:10:06 PM
WTF?  The Governor is more rational than Rick?!?!
 
2013-02-17 09:10:15 PM
Sociopath Gov is doing a good sell job... I dunno what he's selling, but he's def abdicating well...
 
2013-02-17 09:10:19 PM
So, did Andrea just forget about the zombie and human heads in the jars?
 
2013-02-17 09:10:23 PM

megalynn44: basemetal: WHAR WALKING DEAD, WHAR?

looks like it's just you and me. Hold me.


Yeah, what's up with that?
 
2013-02-17 09:10:24 PM
Man those wall guards are complete dopes. They might as well paint bullseys on themselves standing out from cover like that
 
2013-02-17 09:10:41 PM

NeoCortex42: Popcorn Johnny: How long before Rick goes up to give Lori a smooch and it turns out to be a zombie in a dress?

Does the prison have a Room 237?


I thought that was going to happen.
 
2013-02-17 09:10:50 PM
The Andrea! She'll save us!

Who knew the Governor was actually a German Pope from Alaska?
 
2013-02-17 09:10:59 PM

we'refromthesamestory: geom_00: I'm here

Did anyone else notice that Darryl wasn't listed in the opening credits?

DON'T REMIND US! :(


Seriously!? !!!
 
2013-02-17 09:11:00 PM

One Bad Apple: we'refromthesamestory:


are you guys really that starved for some boob?

.....Yes


EIP ?


Yeah, my email is in my profile, why do you ask?

*blinks innocently*
 
2013-02-17 09:11:07 PM

basemetal: megalynn44: basemetal: WHAR WALKING DEAD, WHAR?

looks like it's just you and me. Hold me.

Yeah, what's up with that?


And why the hell am I having to watch Anaconda while everyone else get the real deal?
 
2013-02-17 09:11:08 PM
YESSSSS Daryl and Merle Road Warrior Variety Hour!!!
 
2013-02-17 09:11:36 PM

we'refromthesamestory: geom_00: I'm here

Did anyone else notice that Darryl wasn't listed in the opening credits?

DON'T REMIND US! :(


Still here!!!!
 
2013-02-17 09:11:56 PM
"Dem Dixon boys shore done looking for some zombie squirrels..."
 
2013-02-17 09:12:19 PM

megalynn44: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: megalynn44: It's even advertising the new episode of Walking Dead tonight at 9/8 central. What in the ever living shiat?

west coast feed? recording? anaconda was on earlier.

I'm in the Central time zone but have a pretty shiatty cable provider (only one available). Our DVR says Walking Dead is on right now, but like I said, Anaconda just started instead. We can't record it later. Sunday night DVR recordings are a stack of cards. You shift things and EVERYTHING COLLAPSES! farking hell.




It's like the whole Domino Theory that lead LBJ to invade Vietnam.
 
2013-02-17 09:12:32 PM

we'refromthesamestory:


Yeah, my email is in my profile, why do you ask?

*blinks innocently*


Mine is too.

*leers creepily*

I am so bad at this
 
2013-02-17 09:12:41 PM
hey geom
 
2013-02-17 09:12:46 PM
By the way. I'm on my phone, so I'm probably going to be posting very sporadically
 
2013-02-17 09:12:54 PM

geom_00: we'refromthesamestory: geom_00: I'm here

Did anyone else notice that Darryl wasn't listed in the opening credits?

DON'T REMIND US! :(

Still here!!!!


:D!!!!!
 
2013-02-17 09:13:11 PM
Wow. Carl is in strategy mode now too. Damn that kid is hardcore.
 
2013-02-17 09:13:12 PM

basemetal: basemetal: megalynn44: basemetal: WHAR WALKING DEAD, WHAR?

looks like it's just you and me. Hold me.

Yeah, what's up with that?

And why the hell am I having to watch Anaconda while everyone else get the real deal?


Your DVR is playing AMC from a rewound state?
 
2013-02-17 09:13:38 PM

One Bad Apple: we'refromthesamestory:


Yeah, my email is in my profile, why do you ask?

*blinks innocently*

Mine is too.

*leers creepily*

I am so bad at this


Dude it's a liter thread.
 
2013-02-17 09:13:42 PM
Glenn is a bad-azz!
 
2013-02-17 09:14:46 PM
Twitter is lit up right now with people biatching about Anaconda being on. Oh yeah, they mad.
 
2013-02-17 09:14:50 PM
Hey! I turned on AMC to watch Anaconda, but got this zombie show instead! WTF?
 
2013-02-17 09:15:00 PM
Hey Oi!

One look at Maggie: we'll stay here
 
2013-02-17 09:15:01 PM

One Bad Apple: we'refromthesamestory:


Yeah, my email is in my profile, why do you ask?

*blinks innocently*

Mine is too.

*leers creepily*

I am so bad at this




Get room you two.
 
2013-02-17 09:15:17 PM

Tencolin: So, did Andrea just forget about the zombie and human heads in the jars?


Dickmatization is a serious mental disorder with no known cure.  Victims suffer from an inability to process anything except for the presence of strong cock.
 
2013-02-17 09:15:18 PM
Let's just put Glen in charge now. At least he's sane.
 
2013-02-17 09:15:43 PM
Ah. Hershel provides wisdom so much better than Dale ever did. Maybe it's just the soothing sound of his voice, or the lack of ham-fisted moralizing.
 
2013-02-17 09:16:04 PM
Anaconda?


what's the point of keeping a dying empire
 
2013-02-17 09:16:43 PM

Nefarious: basemetal: basemetal: megalynn44: basemetal: WHAR WALKING DEAD, WHAR?

looks like it's just you and me. Hold me.

Yeah, what's up with that?

And why the hell am I having to watch Anaconda while everyone else get the real deal?

Your DVR is playing AMC from a rewound state?


Nope, it started at 8:00.
 
2013-02-17 09:16:54 PM
Eventually Mr. Science is going to figure out the Governor is evil.
 
2013-02-17 09:16:56 PM

One Bad Apple: we'refromthesamestory:


Yeah, my email is in my profile, why do you ask?

*blinks innocently*

Mine is too.

*leers creepily*

I am so bad at this


ZIE already, you lovebirds!
 
2013-02-17 09:16:58 PM

HempHead: One Bad Apple: we'refromthesamestory:


Yeah, my email is in my profile, why do you ask?

*blinks innocently*

Mine is too.

*leers creepily*

I am so bad at this

Get room you two.


Ewww. He's like, old.
 
2013-02-17 09:17:11 PM
So does AMC have an East and West feed?  If so maybe your Cable company is having an issue with east coast feed.  If not I really can't explain why it would be like that.
 
2013-02-17 09:17:27 PM
Are you guys getting Anaconda with Cable One?
 
2013-02-17 09:17:58 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Are you guys getting Anaconda with Cable One?


YES :(
 
2013-02-17 09:18:07 PM

OtherLittleGuy: ZIE already, you lovebirds!


Lovebirds? trying to get BIE and being love birds are two different things.
 
2013-02-17 09:18:53 PM

megalynn44: YES :(


The word on Twitter is that they dun goofed.

... and consequences will never be the same.
 
2013-02-17 09:19:00 PM

psychicdeath99: Eventually Mr. Science is going to figure out the Governor is evil.


Mr. Science is still an idiot. Mr. Wizard would have already cured the zombie plague. Or at least killed them all by using them as assistants.
 
2013-02-17 09:19:20 PM

NeoCortex42: Let's just put Glen in charge now. At least he's sane.


Unfortunately, he's a moron.  "Let'shiat them a second time!  They won't be expecting it!"
 
2013-02-17 09:19:55 PM

NeoCortex42: psychicdeath99: Eventually Mr. Science is going to figure out the Governor is evil.

Mr. Science is still an idiot. Mr. Wizard would have already cured the zombie plague. Or at least killed them all by using them as assistants.


We're going to need a new Sophia.
 
2013-02-17 09:20:07 PM

NeoCortex42: psychicdeath99: Eventually Mr. Science is going to figure out the Governor is evil.

Mr. Science is still an idiot. Mr. Wizard would have already cured the zombie plague. Or at least killed them all by using them as assistants.


All zombies are named Timmy to Mr. Wizard.
 
2013-02-17 09:20:30 PM
sawiggins.files.wordpress.com

Black and White you say?
 
2013-02-17 09:20:38 PM

megalynn44: Popcorn Johnny: Are you guys getting Anaconda with Cable One?

YES :(


YESSSS!

/farking cableone.
 
2013-02-17 09:20:42 PM

Mentat: NeoCortex42: Let's just put Glen in charge now. At least he's sane.

Unfortunately, he's a moron.  "Let'shiat them a second time!  They won't be expecting it!"


And he's too busy getting that fine tail to lead anything.
 
2013-02-17 09:20:42 PM

psychicdeath99: Eventually Mr. Science is going to figure out the Governor is evil.


I wonder if he was even a real scientist before the zombie apocalypse. I mean, he does seem to have some methodology to his little experiments, but Milton strikes me more as someone with a bachelor's in psychology.
 
2013-02-17 09:20:48 PM

megalynn44: Popcorn Johnny: Are you guys getting Anaconda with Cable One?

YES :(


rerun twice after talking dead.
 
2013-02-17 09:21:10 PM
Mr. Grimes. Mr. Rick Grimes, please pick up the Crazy Courtesy Phone.
 
2013-02-17 09:21:56 PM
Dallas Roberts, the lab technician, looks and acts so much like John Ritter they should star him in a biopic:

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2013-02-17 09:22:09 PM

Tencolin: psychicdeath99: Eventually Mr. Science is going to figure out the Governor is evil.

I wonder if he was even a real scientist before the zombie apocalypse. I mean, he does seem to have some methodology to his little experiments, but Milton strikes me more as someone with a bachelor's in psychology.


Hey, it's TV. 'Scientist' means a jack of all trades and an expert in them all.
 
2013-02-17 09:22:15 PM

Tencolin: psychicdeath99: Eventually Mr. Science is going to figure out the Governor is evil.

I wonder if he was even a real scientist before the zombie apocalypse. I mean, he does seem to have some methodology to his little experiments, but Milton strikes me more as someone with a bachelor's in psychology.


I'm guessing some sort of nerd with no real traing.
 
2013-02-17 09:23:03 PM
Or training either
 
2013-02-17 09:24:03 PM

we'refromthesamestory: HempHead: One Bad Apple: we'refromthesamestory:


Yeah, my email is in my profile, why do you ask?

*blinks innocently*

Mine is too.

*leers creepily*

I am so bad at this

Get room you two.

Ewww. He's like, old.




He might have money...
 
2013-02-17 09:24:29 PM
So everyone has PTSD?
 
2013-02-17 09:24:43 PM
"Not in this one. It wasn't rape rape."
 
2013-02-17 09:24:47 PM

HempHead: He might have money...


I'm not a gold digger.
 
2013-02-17 09:24:48 PM
Maggie is gorgeous but that accent is annoying.
 
2013-02-17 09:24:53 PM

NeoCortex42: Tencolin: psychicdeath99: Eventually Mr. Science is going to figure out the Governor is evil.

I wonder if he was even a real scientist before the zombie apocalypse. I mean, he does seem to have some methodology to his little experiments, but Milton strikes me more as someone with a bachelor's in psychology.

Hey, it's TV. 'Scientist' means a jack of all trades and an expert in them all.


psychicdeath99: Tencolin: psychicdeath99: Eventually Mr. Science is going to figure out the Governor is evil.

I wonder if he was even a real scientist before the zombie apocalypse. I mean, he does seem to have some methodology to his little experiments, but Milton strikes me more as someone with a bachelor's in psychology.

I'm guessing some sort of nerd with no real traing.


Yeah, I know it's tv and all, but I think psychic has the right idea. Who knows though, maybe I'm completely wrong. Either way, I can't help but find him amusing.
 
2013-02-17 09:25:12 PM
I'd trade handless Glenn for topless Maggie
 
2013-02-17 09:25:17 PM

eagles95: So everyone has PTSD?


Well maybe not the infant... yet.
 
2013-02-17 09:26:55 PM
this inmate is weird, i think he's up to something.
 
2013-02-17 09:26:56 PM
Awww, is Carol becoming smitten?
 
2013-02-17 09:26:59 PM
Handlebar'shiatting on Jamie Lee Curtis.
 
2013-02-17 09:27:04 PM
Colonel Sanders loves his lesbian haircut women
 
2013-02-17 09:27:28 PM
Yummy...Carol and the Soggy Bottom Boy gonna bump some uglies.
 
2013-02-17 09:27:29 PM
I think "armed robber" is code for "sex offender"
 
2013-02-17 09:27:59 PM

oi_piss_me_off: this inmate is weird, i think he's up to something.


I have a feeling Carol is out of the age bracket he likes.
 
2013-02-17 09:28:05 PM
Bad filter ownage
 
2013-02-17 09:28:26 PM
How's that policy working out for ya' Merle?
 
2013-02-17 09:28:28 PM
I see Maggie's been possessed by Ghost Lori.
 
2013-02-17 09:28:43 PM
Carol and Col Sanders annoy me now.. KILL THEM!~
 
2013-02-17 09:28:46 PM
Are there fewer commercials in Anaconda?
 
2013-02-17 09:28:49 PM
Hmmm....interesting...
 
2013-02-17 09:28:56 PM

Nefarious: oi_piss_me_off: this inmate is weird, i think he's up to something.

I have a feeling Carol is out of the age bracket he likes.


Carl really needs to stay with Beth at all times.
 
2013-02-17 09:29:01 PM
Nefarious

oi_piss_me_off: this inmate is weird, i think he's up to something.

I have a feeling Carol is out of the age bracket he likes.



oof, they should hide the baby.
 
2013-02-17 09:29:14 PM
GODDAMN IT I DID IT AGAIN.

Sigh. This time I'm just going to wait until the replay at 11:00.
 
2013-02-17 09:29:28 PM
Merle needs to be skewered.
 
2013-02-17 09:29:39 PM

Mugato: Handlebar'shiatting on Jamie Lee Curtis.


What kind of a show is this?
 
2013-02-17 09:30:10 PM

oi_piss_me_off: Nefarious

oi_piss_me_off: this inmate is weird, i think he's up to something.

I have a feeling Carol is out of the age bracket he likes.


oof, they should hide the baby.



Or wrap it in electrical tape
 
2013-02-17 09:30:15 PM

Nefarious: Are there fewer commercials in Anaconda?



No shiat...milk it out some more AMC
 
2013-02-17 09:30:24 PM

Mentat: Mugato: Handlebar'shiatting on Jamie Lee Curtis.

What kind of a show is this?


German schiesse video?
 
2013-02-17 09:30:32 PM
Daryl's about to Rambo it up on some walkers.  Merle will comment from the sideline, or pull some sadistic shiat on the survivors once Daryl clears the walkers just to f with him is my guess
 
2013-02-17 09:30:36 PM

Rincewind53: GODDAMN IT I DID IT AGAIN.

Sigh. This time I'm just going to wait until the replay at 11:00.


WHAT THE HELL I EVEN REMINDED YOU IN THAT OTHER THREAD AND EVERYTHING!!
 
2013-02-17 09:31:27 PM
Snitch looks like a shiatty movie
 
2013-02-17 09:31:55 PM
Why does Daryl keep the quill for his arrows right at the front of the crossbow.  Wouldn't that make it more difficult to maintain aim?
 
2013-02-17 09:32:10 PM
Daryl, fark yeah.
 
2013-02-17 09:32:12 PM
We're hand-recording and skipping commercials, so we're getting a kick...
 
2013-02-17 09:32:38 PM
Legolas kill
 
2013-02-17 09:33:04 PM
Most creative kill?
 
2013-02-17 09:33:13 PM
AWESOME KILL!
 
2013-02-17 09:33:16 PM
Man, I would so watch a show about Daryl and Merle traveling the countryside and just saving random people.
 
2013-02-17 09:33:35 PM
Did I imagine a Valve sticker on that hatchback.
 
2013-02-17 09:33:41 PM

we'refromthesamestory: Rincewind53: GODDAMN IT I DID IT AGAIN.

Sigh. This time I'm just going to wait until the replay at 11:00.

WHAT THE HELL I EVEN REMINDED YOU IN THAT OTHER THREAD AND EVERYTHING!!


I KNOW. I saw the reminder in thread and it reminded me. But I didn't check until just now.  Sigh. This is what I get for having lots of work on Sunday nights now.
 
2013-02-17 09:33:50 PM
Daryl kicking ass.  This is what I watch the show for.
 
2013-02-17 09:33:55 PM
Not one of these dummies has even a crowbar or a bat ?
 
2013-02-17 09:34:00 PM
Trunk kill has to be the kill of the week.
 
2013-02-17 09:34:17 PM
One Bad Apple

Or wrap it in electrical tape


that works too

who keeps the trunk open during a zombie attack. Murial (or whatever) is still an ass.
 
2013-02-17 09:34:25 PM
Survivors from Mexico....
 
2013-02-17 09:34:41 PM
Trunk lid curb stomp! Daryl stab to face! Merle bigotry!

/redneck road show is much more entertaining thus far this episode
 
2013-02-17 09:34:53 PM
Beaner?
 
2013-02-17 09:35:06 PM
Slow down beaner
 
2013-02-17 09:35:08 PM
Trunk-smashed Zombie is so going to make the Memorium.
 
2013-02-17 09:35:15 PM
Good. Darryl has finally figured it out.
 
2013-02-17 09:36:25 PM

oi_piss_me_off: One Bad Apple

Or wrap it in electrical tape


that works too

who keeps the trunk open during a zombie attack. Murial (or whatever) is still an ass.




Subaru?
 
2013-02-17 09:36:37 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Trunk-smashed Zombie is so going to make the Memorium.


Well, last week had Glen use his boot to crush a zombie's head. This week Daryl uses a boot to crush a zombie head.
 
2013-02-17 09:37:28 PM

Mugato: Trunk kill has to be the kill of the week.


That was beautiful.
 
2013-02-17 09:37:32 PM

NeoCortex42: OtherLittleGuy: Trunk-smashed Zombie is so going to make the Memorium.

Well, last week had Glen use his boot to crush a zombie's head. This week Daryl uses a boot to crush a zombie head.


Dude welcome to america where "the boot of the car" doesn't exist.
 
2013-02-17 09:37:48 PM
Way to man up Daryl.
 
2013-02-17 09:37:56 PM
Between here and Twitter, I can't believe how many people struggle with the name "Merle."
 
2013-02-17 09:37:59 PM
HempHead

Subaru?


stupid Subaru's and their zombie attack automatic opening trunks.

Yay! Darryl is going back!
 
2013-02-17 09:38:19 PM
What was that dialogue about Daryl's tat?  Was daddy diddling him? WTF?
 
2013-02-17 09:38:35 PM

Tencolin: HempHead: OtherLittleGuy: Ghost Lori is hot.

Is that a body double

Wow. I thought it was last episode. She certainly looks better when she's not covered in dirt and blood.


Better, maybe, but still Lori.
 
2013-02-17 09:38:49 PM
Daryl. Favorite character on here by far
 
2013-02-17 09:38:53 PM
Well, this should lessen tensions in the prison.
 
2013-02-17 09:38:57 PM
While I'm sure this will add up to the 44 or so minutes of an average episode it seems like we are in commercial after every scene
 
2013-02-17 09:39:13 PM
Darryl Motherfarking Dixon LIKE. A. BOSS.
 
2013-02-17 09:39:28 PM

Kentucky Fried Children: What was that dialogue about Daryl's tat?  Was daddy diddling him? WTF?


Was the scars on his back.  Not the tat.
 
2013-02-17 09:39:37 PM

Crackers Are a Family Food: Mugato: Trunk kill has to be the kill of the week.

That was beautiful.


This

They always come up with awesome ways to kill walkers.
 
2013-02-17 09:39:41 PM
What was Merle referring to when he saw Daryl's back? I mean, I get that their dad must have beat them or something, but were there scars or something that I didn't catch?
 
2013-02-17 09:40:06 PM

Mugato: Handlebar'shiatting on Jamie Lee Curtis.


Goddamn... THAT's why I find her so attractive. How did I never make that connection?

I wonder if she eats special yogurt that makes her poop?
 
2013-02-17 09:40:22 PM

Glitchwerks: Kentucky Fried Children: What was that dialogue about Daryl's tat?  Was daddy diddling him? WTF?

Was the scars on his back.  Not the tat.


Ah, okay. See, I thought it could have been the tat too. Totally missed the scars.
 
2013-02-17 09:40:26 PM
21 & Over looks shiatty, as well

/Hollywood is seriously out of ideas, le sigh
 
2013-02-17 09:40:34 PM

Kentucky Fried Children: What was that dialogue about Daryl's tat?  Was daddy diddling him? WTF?


Couldn't see it clearly but it looked like an angel holding hands with a devil.


Maybe a white supremacist gang thing ?

Dixie mafia ?

I dunno
 
2013-02-17 09:41:12 PM
Man those Comic Book Men guys are douchebags.
 
2013-02-17 09:41:15 PM

NeoCortex42: HempHead: Is there another show as annoying as Comicbook Men?

Hardcore Pawn.


Naw that's some good shiat.
 
2013-02-17 09:41:17 PM

Tencolin: Glitchwerks: Kentucky Fried Children: What was that dialogue about Daryl's tat?  Was daddy diddling him? WTF?

Was the scars on his back.  Not the tat.

Ah, okay. See, I thought it could have been the tat too. Totally missed the scars.


Yea I didn't see scars, but it was a quick scene and I very well could've missed it

/anyhoo, I wanna see whats up with Rick
 
2013-02-17 09:42:01 PM

Kentucky Fried Children: What was that dialogue about Daryl's tat?  Was daddy diddling him? WTF?


I think being beaten was the subtext. Merle abandoned him and left him to be the only one to get his ass kicked.
 
2013-02-17 09:42:38 PM
"Rick wandering crazytown"

lolz
 
2013-02-17 09:42:52 PM
Won't you take me to.... Crazy town!!!!
 
2013-02-17 09:42:55 PM

we'refromthesamestory: NeoCortex42: OtherLittleGuy: Trunk-smashed Zombie is so going to make the Memorium.

Well, last week had Glen use his boot to crush a zombie's head. This week Daryl uses a boot to crush a zombie head.

Dude welcome to america where "the boot of the car" doesn't exist.


In Canada, it would be a "boot to the head".
 
2013-02-17 09:43:04 PM
We'll miss you more then Dale Glenn.
 
2013-02-17 09:43:29 PM
Has Rick found the Space Coyote yet?
 
2013-02-17 09:43:29 PM
Where'd they get that new pickup?

/prison must've been sponsored by a few manufacturers!
 
2013-02-17 09:43:56 PM
LOL Rick wandering CrazyTown....holy shiat.


Dodge now sponsoring the show?
 
2013-02-17 09:44:07 PM
Breast feeding scene!

Damn.
 
2013-02-17 09:44:36 PM

Kentucky Fried Children: Where'd they get that new pickup?

/prison must've been sponsored by a few manufacturers!


It really is abuse of Rick's leadership that Glenn has to keep all these cars detailed.
 
2013-02-17 09:44:48 PM
Guess Daryl better show up soon cause cause the prison really needs some G-D leadership.
 
2013-02-17 09:45:37 PM
Beth is hotter than Maggie.
 
2013-02-17 09:45:45 PM

Nefarious: We'll miss you more then Dale Glenn.


Glenn's not going anywhere soon. The next two people to get killed will be the little blond tenderoni, Merle, and maybe handlebar.

(If it's moustache, he'll go out doing something noble.)
 
2013-02-17 09:46:14 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Beth is hotter than Maggie.


Blaspheme
 
2013-02-17 09:46:41 PM
1) Did we ever figure out how old Maggies sister was?

2) I'm afraid to say this, but I fear Rick is going to kill Daryl
 
2013-02-17 09:46:57 PM

Craptastic: Nefarious: We'll miss you more then Dale Glenn.

Glenn's not going anywhere soon. The next two people to get killed will be the little blond tenderoni, Merle, and maybe handlebar.

(If it's moustache, he'll go out doing something noble.)


One or two from Tyreese's group are probably gone sooner than later.
 
2013-02-17 09:47:32 PM
no he doesn't, he has completely lost it. He has snapped.
 
2013-02-17 09:47:59 PM
Rick's going insane from the stress of having to pretend he's not British.
 
2013-02-17 09:48:04 PM

NeoCortex42: Craptastic: Nefarious: We'll miss you more then Dale Glenn.

Glenn's not going anywhere soon. The next two people to get killed will be the little blond tenderoni, Merle, and maybe handlebar.

(If it's moustache, he'll go out doing something noble.)

One or two from Tyreese's group are probably gone sooner than later.


Yeah. The kid and the older white dude. Forgot about them.
 
2013-02-17 09:48:10 PM
Without looking, I bet nobody can guess Beth's real age.
 
2013-02-17 09:48:30 PM

Mugato: Popcorn Johnny: Beth is hotter than Maggie.

Blaspheme


Carl thinks Beth is hotter. You wouldn't want to upset Carl, would you?
 
2013-02-17 09:48:37 PM
This...this is just crazy
 
2013-02-17 09:48:43 PM
You just know that ghost Shane is tapping Ghost Lori now
 
2013-02-17 09:49:09 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Without looking, I bet nobody can guess Beth's real age.


33
 
2013-02-17 09:49:21 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Without looking, I bet nobody can guess Beth's real age.


I remember someone saying 21
 
2013-02-17 09:49:23 PM
oh shiat
 
2013-02-17 09:49:27 PM
OH WTF I liked him.
 
2013-02-17 09:49:28 PM
Moustache!
 
2013-02-17 09:49:33 PM
HOLY!&!#@&
 
2013-02-17 09:49:35 PM
THAT'S why Rick is outside!
 
2013-02-17 09:49:36 PM
Oh shiat!
 
2013-02-17 09:49:38 PM
BOOOM there goes mustache
 
2013-02-17 09:49:39 PM
Uh oh.
 
2013-02-17 09:49:40 PM
Oh, it's on!
 
2013-02-17 09:49:43 PM
Too old for Story probably
 
2013-02-17 09:49:48 PM
Holy Mole!!!!
 
2013-02-17 09:49:50 PM
HOT DAMN!
 
2013-02-17 09:49:52 PM
Colonel Sanders !!!!! Noooooooooooooooo!
 
2013-02-17 09:49:54 PM
Will you farkers who can't focus on two things at once stop asking about a tattoo! There were scars on Daryls back from being whipped! stop multi tasking when you are a complete TARD!
 
2013-02-17 09:49:54 PM
FARKING GOVERNOR!!!!
 
2013-02-17 09:49:58 PM

Craptastic: Mugato: Handlebar'shiatting on Jamie Lee Curtis.

Goddamn... THAT's why I find her so attractive. How did I never make that connection?

I wonder if she eats special yogurt that makes her poop?


I tried that yogurt. It's full of goddamned arrows. Then it makes you belly dance.
 
2013-02-17 09:49:59 PM
HOLY CRAP
 
2013-02-17 09:50:00 PM

Craptastic: Moustache!


At least Beth is safe now.
 
2013-02-17 09:50:04 PM

Nefarious: 33


nope

eagles95: I remember someone saying 21


nope

But you guys are in the range.
 
2013-02-17 09:50:10 PM
Good call, Craptastic
 
2013-02-17 09:50:13 PM
BOOM!  HEADSHOT!
 
2013-02-17 09:50:15 PM
ZOMG shiat JUST GOT REalL!!!!!!
 
2013-02-17 09:50:20 PM
Wow didn't see that coming.
 
2013-02-17 09:50:37 PM
Welp, there goes Carol's chance at the horizontal mambo.
 
2013-02-17 09:50:39 PM
That poor woman is never gonna get laid.
 
2013-02-17 09:50:39 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-17 09:50:41 PM

Popcorn Johnny: OH WTF I liked him.


He was likeable, but useless. I'll allow it. Too bad he didn't get a piece of ass first.
 
2013-02-17 09:50:43 PM
HELLUVA SHOT with a pistol
 
2013-02-17 09:50:45 PM

geom_00: 1) Did we ever figure out how old Maggies sister was?

2) I'm afraid to say this, but I fear Rick is going to kill Daryl


I think they mentioned on a panel once that she is 17.
 
2013-02-17 09:50:47 PM
I guess Michonne didn't take out his aim eye.
 
2013-02-17 09:50:50 PM
Was not expecting that. I figured he'd cause some trouble for the prison group and get killed by one of the group. Damn.
 
2013-02-17 09:50:51 PM
Well, that'll leave a mark.
 
2013-02-17 09:51:03 PM

Nefarious: Craptastic: Moustache!

At least Beth is safe now.


lol
 
2013-02-17 09:51:03 PM
I was just starting to like Col Sanders character :-/
 
2013-02-17 09:51:08 PM
BOOM!  Headshot!
 
2013-02-17 09:51:38 PM
Oh god that sucks....and Talking Dead looks horrible
 
2013-02-17 09:51:56 PM
Dammit, I was just getting to like that guy.  I suppose that's why they killed him.
 
2013-02-17 09:51:56 PM
Another likeable character bites the dust.
 
2013-02-17 09:51:59 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Welp, there goes Carol's chance at the horizontal mambo.


lol
 
2013-02-17 09:52:31 PM
Dammit. How long is Carol going to have to wait to get laid?
 
2013-02-17 09:52:37 PM

Kentucky Fried Children: OtherLittleGuy: Welp, there goes Carol's chance at the horizontal mambo.

lol


I would really hate to be the next guy Carol has a crush on.
 
2013-02-17 09:52:45 PM

Tencolin: geom_00: 1) Did we ever figure out how old Maggies sister was?

2) I'm afraid to say this, but I fear Rick is going to kill Daryl

I think they mentioned on a panel once that she is 17.


When Mustache was talking to her, he asked her how old she was, and she said 17. That's when Carol pulled him aside and told him to knock it off. Then they started bonding.
 
2013-02-17 09:52:45 PM

Kentucky Fried Children: I was just starting to like Col Sanders character :-/


ORLY?
 
2013-02-17 09:52:49 PM

FunkOut: Craptastic: Mugato: Handlebar'shiatting on Jamie Lee Curtis.

Goddamn... THAT's why I find her so attractive. How did I never make that connection?

I wonder if she eats special yogurt that makes her poop?

I tried that yogurt. It's full of goddamned arrows. Then it makes you belly dance.


To the knee?
 
2013-02-17 09:52:50 PM

Kentucky Fried Children: 21 & Over looks shiatty, as well

/Hollywood is seriously out of ideas, le sigh




It was supposed to have been released last Spring, that's how good it is.
 
2013-02-17 09:52:57 PM
In case anybody was wondering, the actress that plays Beth is 27.
 
2013-02-17 09:53:32 PM

Tencolin: Kentucky Fried Children: OtherLittleGuy: Welp, there goes Carol's chance at the horizontal mambo.

lol

I would really hate to be the next guy Carol has a crush on.


Daryl's still around. No worries.
 
2013-02-17 09:53:36 PM
I wonder if Rick will cap one or two of the Gov's gang while he's out there...

/too many damn ads
 
2013-02-17 09:53:49 PM

Tencolin: Kentucky Fried Children: OtherLittleGuy: Welp, there goes Carol's chance at the horizontal mambo.

lol

I would really hate to be the next guy Carol has a crush on.


Darryl is gonna tap that.
 
2013-02-17 09:53:58 PM
So how is Anaconda going.  They kill the snake yet?
 
2013-02-17 09:54:13 PM
They're shooting like the LAPD.
 
2013-02-17 09:54:24 PM
For a cop Rick's a lousy shot.
 
2013-02-17 09:55:11 PM

Nefarious: So how is Anaconda going.  They kill the snake yet?


Spoiler alert.please.
 
2013-02-17 09:55:13 PM
Damn, used Colonel Sanders as a redoubt.
 
2013-02-17 09:55:20 PM
Just give Carl a rifle. He'll drop them all in a few shots.
 
2013-02-17 09:55:36 PM
I don't like the man, but the governor is just so badass.
 
2013-02-17 09:55:39 PM
Someone give Carl a rifle, he won't hit shiat with the pistol
 
2013-02-17 09:55:45 PM
Ricks bolt was to the rear, he's empty.
 
2013-02-17 09:55:48 PM
Are these people aiming at all?  Rick should have been able to pick at least one of those guys off.
 
2013-02-17 09:56:11 PM
TWINKIE TRUCK OF JUSTICE
 
2013-02-17 09:56:12 PM
Bye bye prison setting.
 
2013-02-17 09:56:21 PM
generallee.wav
 
2013-02-17 09:56:26 PM
SOmeone called for a walker delivery?
 
2013-02-17 09:56:43 PM
HOLY CRAP!
 
2013-02-17 09:56:48 PM
smart use of zombies.
 
2013-02-17 09:56:50 PM
Oh that's just uncool.
 
2013-02-17 09:56:56 PM
Better start hoppin, Hershel!
 
2013-02-17 09:56:57 PM
Oh shiat,again!
 
2013-02-17 09:57:00 PM
Surprised the Gov didn't bring along any of the national guard equipment.
 
2013-02-17 09:57:08 PM
Your Zombie delivery is here
 
2013-02-17 09:57:13 PM
EZ walker delivery service.
 
2013-02-17 09:57:30 PM
how did the guy got on top of the tower?
 
2013-02-17 09:57:52 PM

Mugato: Oh that's just uncool.


That's horse crap.
 
2013-02-17 09:58:12 PM
How much do you tip the driver for such a delivery?
 
2013-02-17 09:58:22 PM
I hope they had a permit for those tactical zombies.
 
2013-02-17 09:58:59 PM
Darryl!
 
2013-02-17 09:59:08 PM
Daryl, fark yeah again.
 
2013-02-17 09:59:19 PM
Michonne and Merle and Daryl, back to save the day!
 
2013-02-17 09:59:23 PM
This is farking EPIC!!!
 
2013-02-17 09:59:26 PM
MOTHER FARKING DARYL

FARK YEA
 
2013-02-17 09:59:33 PM
DAMN!

And Merle helped.
 
2013-02-17 09:59:55 PM

Craptastic: How much do you tip the driver for such a delivery?


It's .50 a bag at the airport. So.
 
2013-02-17 09:59:56 PM
This is gonna get real complicated
 
2013-02-17 10:00:14 PM
Love this show.
 
2013-02-17 10:00:26 PM
Craptastic

How much do you tip the driver for such a delivery?


one or two swift kicks to the nuts.
 
2013-02-17 10:00:57 PM
Ah zombies are naturally attracted to any open gate.
 
2013-02-17 10:01:07 PM
Who was killed ontop of the guard tower?
 
2013-02-17 10:01:22 PM
"for a longer look watch freakshow"...NO...NO...NO!!!
 
2013-02-17 10:01:33 PM
Uh oh. Crazy Rick just turned into Revenge Rick. Governor's gonna pay big.
 
2013-02-17 10:01:41 PM
Wasn't that the different eye?
 
2013-02-17 10:01:51 PM
What happened to the driver of the zombie van ?
 
2013-02-17 10:01:53 PM

we'refromthesamestory: Who was killed ontop of the guard tower?


Pretty sure it was just a generic henchman.
 
2013-02-17 10:01:53 PM

psychicdeath99: Uh oh. Crazy Rick just turned into Revenge Rick. Governor's gonna pay big.


yep.
 
2013-02-17 10:01:57 PM
MIchonne is pretty useless in a gunfight, but I love watching her chop through a crowd of zombies. She's a keeper.
 
2013-02-17 10:01:59 PM
That was the best action sequence of the entire series.
 
2013-02-17 10:02:00 PM

we'refromthesamestory: Who was killed ontop of the guard tower?


One of the governor's guys.  He got in position early.
 
2013-02-17 10:02:01 PM

we'refromthesamestory: Who was killed ontop of the guard tower?


One of the Guv's douchbags?
 
2013-02-17 10:02:10 PM

we'refromthesamestory: Who was killed ontop of the guard tower?


The guy who was shooting.
 
2013-02-17 10:02:23 PM
Shiat just got REAL
 
2013-02-17 10:02:24 PM

Tencolin: geom_00: 1) Did we ever figure out how old Maggies sister was?

2) I'm afraid to say this, but I fear Rick is going to kill Daryl

I think they mentioned on a panel once that she is 17.




14
 
2013-02-17 10:02:25 PM
Night all. See you next week
 
2013-02-17 10:02:28 PM
They fill an hour with this?
 
2013-02-17 10:02:31 PM

finnished: Wasn't that the different eye?


Looked like a mirror shot.
 
2013-02-17 10:02:39 PM

oi_piss_me_off: Craptastic

How much do you tip the driver for such a delivery?


one or two swift kicks to the nuts.


I'm gonna try that with the pizza boy next week.
 
2013-02-17 10:02:40 PM

finnished: Wasn't that the different eye?


Mirror moran!
 
2013-02-17 10:02:44 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Michonne and Merle and Daryl, back to save the day!


Things are going to get awesome.
 
2013-02-17 10:03:00 PM
I am wondering where the Governor found the Aug.
 
2013-02-17 10:03:22 PM
I cant wait for the RIP section

/trunk curbstomp is the best this week
 
2013-02-17 10:03:39 PM

psychicdeath99: Uh oh. Crazy Rick just turned into Revenge Rick. Governor's gonna pay big.


Last time we saw that look, Rick took out Shane.
 
2013-02-17 10:03:45 PM

Tencolin: psychicdeath99: Eventually Mr. Science is going to figure out the Governor is evil.

I wonder if he was even a real scientist before the zombie apocalypse. I mean, he does seem to have some methodology to his little experiments, but Milton strikes me more as someone with a bachelor's in psychology.


I see him as the kind of guy who would create a 13 month calendar full of new age bullshiat.
 
2013-02-17 10:03:53 PM

geom_00: Night all. See you next week


Peace man.
 
2013-02-17 10:04:10 PM
Why is the dude from True Blood on here?
 
2013-02-17 10:04:18 PM

AkaDad: we'refromthesamestory: Who was killed ontop of the guard tower?

One of the Guv's douchbags?




D-Tog
 
2013-02-17 10:04:32 PM

Popcorn Johnny: I am wondering where the Governor found the Aug.



They're in Georgia. I expect everyone to to be bristling with guns like Simon Pegg at the end of "Hot Fuzz".
 
2013-02-17 10:04:34 PM
Lol Alcide calling Kirkman twisted.
 
2013-02-17 10:04:36 PM
I can't believe one farking person couldn't hit the Governor standing out in the open lime that.  If only the group had been smart enough to put a lookout in the friggin tower.
 
2013-02-17 10:05:11 PM
Craptastic

I'm gonna try that with the pizza boy next week.


make sure he isn't holding your pizza at the time.
 
2013-02-17 10:05:35 PM

jeffjo52: finnished: Wasn't that the different eye?

Mirror moran!


Get a brain!
 
2013-02-17 10:05:41 PM
Awesome ending....a few thousand too many commercials
 
2013-02-17 10:06:02 PM

oi_piss_me_off: this inmate is weird, i think he's up to something.


During that whole exchange I was waiting on him to explain that it wasn't armed robbery on account of the gun not being loaded.
 
2013-02-17 10:06:06 PM

NeoCortex42: we'refromthesamestory: Who was killed ontop of the guard tower?

Pretty sure it was just a generic henchman.


21 or 24?
 
2013-02-17 10:06:24 PM

PsyLord: psychicdeath99: Uh oh. Crazy Rick just turned into Revenge Rick. Governor's gonna pay big.

Last time we saw that look, Rick took out Shane.


I am looking forward to see how he will be taken down.
 
2013-02-17 10:06:32 PM

NeoCortex42: I can't believe one farking person couldn't hit the Governor standing out in the open lime that.  If only the group had been smart enough to put a lookout in the friggin tower.


The Governor was a good distance away, the one that was bothiner me was it taking so long to get the guy standing on the guard tower.
 
2013-02-17 10:06:49 PM

Mad_Radhu: Tencolin: psychicdeath99: Eventually Mr. Science is going to figure out the Governor is evil.

I wonder if he was even a real scientist before the zombie apocalypse. I mean, he does seem to have some methodology to his little experiments, but Milton strikes me more as someone with a bachelor's in psychology.

I see him as the kind of guy who would create a 13 month calendar full of new age bullshiat.


I see him as the guy who taught grade 5 and wasn't very good at it.
 
2013-02-17 10:07:22 PM
Oh snap, true blood dude called out the ridiculous headshots

/nice!
 
2013-02-17 10:07:23 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Why is the dude from True Blood on here?


Is that the insanely handsome guy? Seems like he's a fan of the comics.
 
2013-02-17 10:07:45 PM
bothering
 
2013-02-17 10:08:14 PM

Tencolin: PsyLord: psychicdeath99: Uh oh. Crazy Rick just turned into Revenge Rick. Governor's gonna pay big.

Last time we saw that look, Rick took out Shane.

I am looking forward to see how he will be taken down.


I'm thinking it'll be Merle that does the final blow on the Gov.
 
2013-02-17 10:09:15 PM

FunkOut: Mad_Radhu: Tencolin: psychicdeath99: Eventually Mr. Science is going to figure out the Governor is evil.

I wonder if he was even a real scientist before the zombie apocalypse. I mean, he does seem to have some methodology to his little experiments, but Milton strikes me more as someone with a bachelor's in psychology.

I see him as the kind of guy who would create a 13 month calendar full of new age bullshiat.

I see him as the guy who taught grade 5 and wasn't very good at it.


He's the Walking Dead's version of Dr. Arzt. Hope he doesn't handle any dynamite.
 
2013-02-17 10:09:28 PM

finnished: jeffjo52: finnished: Wasn't that the different eye?

Mirror moran!

Get a brain!


That should be Get a brian, Moran
 
2013-02-17 10:09:44 PM

PsyLord: Tencolin: PsyLord: psychicdeath99: Uh oh. Crazy Rick just turned into Revenge Rick. Governor's gonna pay big.

Last time we saw that look, Rick took out Shane.

I am looking forward to see how he will be taken down.

I'm thinking it'll be Merle that does the final blow on the Gov.


My money is on Andrea taking him down.
 
2013-02-17 10:10:23 PM
Aww, trunk kill didn't get his own nickname.
 
2013-02-17 10:10:25 PM

PsyLord: Tencolin: PsyLord: psychicdeath99: Uh oh. Crazy Rick just turned into Revenge Rick. Governor's gonna pay big.

Last time we saw that look, Rick took out Shane.

I am looking forward to see how he will be taken down.

I'm thinking it'll be Merle that does the final blow on the Gov.


Not that it'll make much of a difference, considering everything else they've changed, but how did the Governor die in the comics? I don't remember....
 
2013-02-17 10:10:52 PM
Defend the prison or take the fight to Woodbury?

I'm going with defend the prison.
 
2013-02-17 10:11:05 PM
Didn't Glen remember at the last minute that no one was standing watch? I assume that's how the dude got to the tower without being noticed.
 
2013-02-17 10:11:10 PM

sirbissel: PsyLord: Tencolin: PsyLord: psychicdeath99: Uh oh. Crazy Rick just turned into Revenge Rick. Governor's gonna pay big.

Last time we saw that look, Rick took out Shane.

I am looking forward to see how he will be taken down.

I'm thinking it'll be Merle that does the final blow on the Gov.

Not that it'll make much of a difference, considering everything else they've changed, but how did the Governor die in the comics? I don't remember....


Shot by one of his own, I think.
 
2013-02-17 10:11:13 PM

Popcorn Johnny: bothering


"Bothiner" was the third son of Denethor .  He played guitar in a tribute band with a troll drummer.
 
2013-02-17 10:11:47 PM
Tonight I learned that walker skulls are filled with runny cherry jello.
 
2013-02-17 10:11:49 PM

NeoCortex42: Aww, trunk kill didn't get his own nickname.


No kidding! It's at the least the best kill of the season, if not the whole series!
 
2013-02-17 10:11:51 PM

NeoCortex42: Aww, trunk kill didn't get his own nickname.

 
2013-02-17 10:12:49 PM

psychicdeath99: Tonight I learned that walker skulls are filled with runny cherry jello.


Do they still make those candies, 'Gushers'. That's what it reminded me of.
 
2013-02-17 10:13:17 PM

sirbissel: PsyLord: Tencolin: PsyLord: psychicdeath99: Uh oh. Crazy Rick just turned into Revenge Rick. Governor's gonna pay big.

Last time we saw that look, Rick took out Shane.

I am looking forward to see how he will be taken down.

I'm thinking it'll be Merle that does the final blow on the Gov.

Not that it'll make much of a difference, considering everything else they've changed, but how did the Governor die in the comics? I don't remember....


Mishon, with the Katana to the genitals, in the conservatory.
 
2013-02-17 10:13:28 PM

NeoCortex42: FunkOut: Mad_Radhu: Tencolin: psychicdeath99: Eventually Mr. Science is going to figure out the Governor is evil.

I wonder if he was even a real scientist before the zombie apocalypse. I mean, he does seem to have some methodology to his little experiments, but Milton strikes me more as someone with a bachelor's in psychology.

I see him as the kind of guy who would create a 13 month calendar full of new age bullshiat.

I see him as the guy who taught grade 5 and wasn't very good at it.

He's the Walking Dead's version of Dr. Arzt. Hope he doesn't handle any dynamite.


Heh. Poor Milton. I want to see more of his asinine zombie experiments before he goes all Arzt.
 
2013-02-17 10:13:44 PM
So half the group is out on walkabout and the other half don't notice a strange car drive up or a strange person someone getting into the guard tower.  Yeah, I think I'd take my chances with Merle out in the wilderness.
 
2013-02-17 10:13:46 PM

psychicdeath99: Tonight I learned that walker skulls are filled with runny cherry jello.


Or is strawberry-flavored death?

/Richard Harrow in the Guiness commercial looks and acts like Pete Campbell
 
2013-02-17 10:14:46 PM
I'm probably splitting hairs, but wouldn't those rounds go right through Axel into Carol? I'm not 100% on the type of assault rifles used (looked like an M4 and a Steyr Aug?), but it seems like the rounds would be high enough velocity to go through a body.

Any gun nuts (term of endearment...) have an idea?
 
2013-02-17 10:14:57 PM

Bender The Offender: sirbissel: PsyLord: Tencolin: PsyLord: psychicdeath99: Uh oh. Crazy Rick just turned into Revenge Rick. Governor's gonna pay big.

Last time we saw that look, Rick took out Shane.

I am looking forward to see how he will be taken down.

I'm thinking it'll be Merle that does the final blow on the Gov.

Not that it'll make much of a difference, considering everything else they've changed, but how did the Governor die in the comics? I don't remember....

Mishon, with the Katana to the genitals, in the conservatory.


Well, he actually died differently. I won't post spoilers, but let's just say that it is now impossible for him to die as he did in the comics.
 
2013-02-17 10:17:24 PM

AkaDad: Defend the prison or take the fight to Woodbury?

I'm going with defend the prison.


They've been in there for over a week now and they still don't have it secured. There are perimeter breaches they don't even know about. They should have just fortified a "keep" that is locked down tight and draw the Woodbury team in and pick them apart Viet Cong style. WOUND people instead of killing them.


Woodbury itself is an even bigger pillow fort. They don't have enough shooters to man the wall. Send in Michonne nightly and have her come back and start her own Idi Amin memorial severed head aquarium. The population of Woodbury would collapse in panic.
 
2013-02-17 10:18:18 PM

bearcats1983: I'm probably splitting hairs, but wouldn't those rounds go right through Axel into Carol? I'm not 100% on the type of assault rifles used (looked like an M4 and a Steyr Aug?), but it seems like the rounds would be high enough velocity to go through a body.

Any gun nuts (term of endearment...) have an idea?


We must ban assault rifles so the living impaired can survive.
 
2013-02-17 10:18:30 PM
Hey, where were Tyreese and his crew during the shootout?  Are they still being kept locked up?
 
2013-02-17 10:18:34 PM

bearcats1983: I'm probably splitting hairs, but wouldn't those rounds go right through Axel into Carol? I'm not 100% on the type of assault rifles used (looked like an M4 and a Steyr Aug?), but it seems like the rounds would be high enough velocity to go through a body.

Any gun nuts (term of endearment...) have an idea?


Depends on what type of rounds, hunting rounds are designed to slow down in a body and do a ton of damage. If you watched mythbusters with higher energy rounds, they break up REALLY fast, where slower rounds go deeper.
 
2013-02-17 10:19:20 PM

bearcats1983: I'm probably splitting hairs, but wouldn't those rounds go right through Axel into Carol? I'm not 100% on the type of assault rifles used (looked like an M4 and a Steyr Aug?), but it seems like the rounds would be high enough velocity to go through a body.

Any gun nuts (term of endearment...) have an idea?


You'd be right. Either one fires the 5.56 mm NATO standard and a skinny guy like that wouldn't stop a round like that. Hollywood physics.
 
2013-02-17 10:19:21 PM
I'd go with plan C, boobytrap the prison and get the fark out of town.
 
2013-02-17 10:19:56 PM

bearcats1983: I'm probably splitting hairs, but wouldn't those rounds go right through Axel into Carol? I'm not 100% on the type of assault rifles used (looked like an M4 and a Steyr Aug?), but it seems like the rounds would be high enough velocity to go through a body.

Any gun nuts (term of endearment...) have an idea?


Depends on the type of bullets used. Expanding hunting bullets or full metal jacket. FMJ would be most likely used in those numbers, so yeah, they'd probably go through the body.
 
2013-02-17 10:21:40 PM

One Bad Apple: bearcats1983: I'm probably splitting hairs, but wouldn't those rounds go right through Axel into Carol? I'm not 100% on the type of assault rifles used (looked like an M4 and a Steyr Aug?), but it seems like the rounds would be high enough velocity to go through a body.

Any gun nuts (term of endearment...) have an idea?

You'd be right. Either one fires the 5.56 mm NATO standard and a skinny guy like that wouldn't stop a round like that. Hollywood physics.


So, we can suspend disbelief about the existence of zombies, but when a bullet doesn't "act right", we have to have a discussion about it?
 
2013-02-17 10:22:19 PM
Good question!  If a Vampire bites a Zombie, does the Zombie become a Vampire or does the Vampire become a Zombie?

/The mind wobbles!
 
2013-02-17 10:23:55 PM

Farty McPooPants: Good question!  If a Vampire bites a Zombie, does the Zombie become a Vampire or does the Vampire become a Zombie?

/The mind wobbles!


Reminds me of an episode of Real Ghostbusters that featured werewolves fighting vampires. Whenever one bit the other, they would turn into whatever bit them.
 
2013-02-17 10:24:16 PM

Popcorn Johnny: I'd go with plan C, boobytrap the prison and get the fark out of town.


Plan D: Go back to Herschel's Farm.
 
2013-02-17 10:24:54 PM

One Bad Apple: AkaDad: Defend the prison or take the fight to Woodbury?

I'm going with defend the prison.

They've been in there for over a week now and they still don't have it secured. There are perimeter breaches they don't even know about. They should have just fortified a "keep" that is locked down tight and draw the Woodbury team in and pick them apart Viet Cong style. WOUND people instead of killing them.


Woodbury itself is an even bigger pillow fort. They don't have enough shooters to man the wall. Send in Michonne nightly and have her come back and start her own Idi Amin memorial severed head aquarium. The population of Woodbury would collapse in panic.


That's a good argument.

I figure they know the prison and there's all kinds of chokepoints. Then again, the woods are so close, they can just pick people off when they go outside.
 
2013-02-17 10:25:02 PM

Craptastic:

So, we can suspend disbelief about the existence of zombies, but when a bullet doesn't "act right", we have to have a discussion about it?


The suspension of disbelief doesn't extend to everyday physics. You might as well have bullets bouncing off people Superman style or EVERYBODY can see ghost Lori just like Rick.
 
2013-02-17 10:26:55 PM
That True Blood guy is tossing out spoilers left and right. I mean, they are years old, but it still irks me for some reason.
 
2013-02-17 10:29:58 PM

One Bad Apple: They've been in there for over a week now and they still don't have it secured. There are perimeter breaches they don't even know about. They should have just fortified a "keep" that is locked down tight and draw the Woodbury team in and pick them apart Viet Cong style. WOUND people instead of killing them.


Woodbury itself is an even bigger pillow fort. They don't have enough shooters to man the wall. Send in Michonne nightly and have her come back and start her own Idi Amin memorial severed head aquarium. The population of Woodbury would collapse in panic.


There was too much forced drama tonight.  At a time where the group knew they were in danger, they all did the stupidest things possible.  Rick went nuts, Maggie started pulling a Lori, Glen went nuts, Darryl and Merle were off wandering around, and no one on watch was actually watching anything.  Even by the standards of tv drama, it was too much.
 
2013-02-17 10:32:00 PM
Is it just me, or does Kirkman seem to have Aspergers?  Dude is awkward as hell during the interview segments...
 
2013-02-17 10:33:29 PM
Kirkman has been on other Talking Dead episodes and seemed better than tonight. He's probably awkwardly self censoring himself as to not give away spoilers
 
2013-02-17 10:34:24 PM

Mentat: One Bad Apple: They've been in there for over a week now and they still don't have it secured. There are perimeter breaches they don't even know about. They should have just fortified a "keep" that is locked down tight and draw the Woodbury team in and pick them apart Viet Cong style. WOUND people instead of killing them.


Woodbury itself is an even bigger pillow fort. They don't have enough shooters to man the wall. Send in Michonne nightly and have her come back and start her own Idi Amin memorial severed head aquarium. The population of Woodbury would collapse in panic.

There was too much forced drama tonight.  At a time where the group knew they were in danger, they all did the stupidest things possible.  Rick went nuts, Maggie started pulling a Lori, Glen went nuts, Darryl and Merle were off wandering around, and no one on watch was actually watching anything.  Even by the standards of tv drama, it was too much.


I read a lot of history stuff. A lot of it is war-related. It's actually amazing how many times one side loses a battle for reasons much like the ones you've stated.
 
2013-02-17 10:34:57 PM

One Bad Apple: Kirkman has been on other Talking Dead episodes and seemed better than tonight. He's probably awkwardly self censoring himself as to not give away spoilers


Makes sense, I just don't recall his other appearances on Talking Dead so I don't have the frame of reference.
 
2013-02-17 10:35:54 PM
Yup, guess who made the Death Couch....
 
2013-02-17 10:36:34 PM
Tencolin:
Well, he actually died differently. I won't post spoilers, but let's just say that it is now impossible for him to die as he did in the comics.

Ohhhh, that's right. ...does that character even exist in the show?
 
2013-02-17 10:37:23 PM
Axel just revealed he was gonna be a serial killer rapist in early drafts of his TV character... kinda glad they changed it up, less cartooney.  And it was fun with him still being a creeper around the ladies, minus the whole RAPE RAPE RAPE thing
 
2013-02-17 10:38:12 PM
Interesting seeing "Axel" on the Talking Dead tonight. His mustache is glorious, and he wasn't affecting that accent at all.
 
2013-02-17 10:39:41 PM

Kentucky Fried Children: Axel just revealed he was gonna be a serial killer rapist in early drafts of his TV character... kinda glad they changed it up, less cartooney.  And it was fun with him still being a creeper around the ladies, minus the whole RAPE RAPE RAPE thing


There was a lot of internal group strife during the prison arc of the comic that was completely dropped for the TV series. Some of it was good, but I do enjoy that the TV series is really its own thing since it keeps me surprised regularly.
 
2013-02-17 10:40:29 PM
lol on the Gibson - Busey - Sheen scale
 
2013-02-17 10:41:03 PM
Crazy: Mel Gibson - Gary Busey - Charlie Sheen scale. BRILLIANT!

/now add in Amanda Bynes and Lindsay Lohan
 
2013-02-17 10:41:25 PM

Kentucky Fried Children: lol on the Gibson - Busey - Sheen scale


Now I want to see Budget take on the zombie apocalypse.

Or Sheen. #Walking
 
2013-02-17 10:44:59 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Crazy: Mel Gibson - Gary Busey - Charlie Sheen scale. BRILLIANT!

/now add in Amanda Bynes and Lindsay Lohan


I'd put those guys in a different order: Busey is batshiat crazy, Gibson is slightly less crazy, and compared to the other two Sheen is the least crazy, but still crazier than the rest of us. (MOST of the rest of us)
 
2013-02-17 10:44:59 PM

NeoCortex42: Kentucky Fried Children: Axel just revealed he was gonna be a serial killer rapist in early drafts of his TV character... kinda glad they changed it up, less cartooney.  And it was fun with him still being a creeper around the ladies, minus the whole RAPE RAPE RAPE thing

There was a lot of internal group strife during the prison arc of the comic that was completely dropped for the TV series. Some of it was good, but I do enjoy that the TV series is really its own thing since it keeps me surprised regularly.


I agree. It's nice being surprised by both the little and large differences. It's cool that he could play such a nice guy who was still creepy. I have to admit that I was always squeamish when he was in a potential position to be near the ladies (and especially Beth).
 
2013-02-17 10:45:05 PM

Craptastic: Interesting seeing "Axel" on the Talking Dead tonight. His mustache is glorious, and he wasn't affecting that accent at all.


Indeed, they need to bring in another gloriously moustasheioed character on the show to pass the torch
 
2013-02-17 10:45:06 PM
Busey

Damn auto correct.
 
2013-02-17 10:46:33 PM

Tencolin: NeoCortex42: Kentucky Fried Children: Axel just revealed he was gonna be a serial killer rapist in early drafts of his TV character... kinda glad they changed it up, less cartooney.  And it was fun with him still being a creeper around the ladies, minus the whole RAPE RAPE RAPE thing

There was a lot of internal group strife during the prison arc of the comic that was completely dropped for the TV series. Some of it was good, but I do enjoy that the TV series is really its own thing since it keeps me surprised regularly.

I agree. It's nice being surprised by both the little and large differences. It's cool that he could play such a nice guy who was still creepy. I have to admit that I was always squeamish when he was in a potential position to be near the ladies (and especially Beth).


This is one case where I think knowing how twisted his comic character was made me appreciate the TV version even more.
 
2013-02-17 10:47:32 PM

NeoCortex42: Hey, where were Tyreese and his crew during the shootout?  Are they still being kept locked up?


TWD writers can only focus on two story lines at a time.  Since Daryl and Merle were in this episode, it wasn't possible to include Tyrese and his crew.  They will come back next week and you'll be asking about Daryl and Merle, but that issue won't get resolved until the following week.

So to answer your question - yes, they were locked up.  This will be addressed with a throwaway line in the next episode to let everyone know they heard the gunfight, and then no one will ever speak of it again.
 
2013-02-17 10:50:50 PM

sirbissel: Tencolin:
Well, he actually died differently. I won't post spoilers, but let's just say that it is now impossible for him to die as he did in the comics.

Ohhhh, that's right. ...does that character even exist in the show?


I'm not really sure. Whatever happened to the governor's assistant? She just seemed to disappear.
 
2013-02-17 10:56:26 PM
So Tyreese's group left the prison after Rick's psycho episode?  I did not realize that.
 
2013-02-17 10:58:03 PM

NeoCortex42: So Tyreese's group left the prison after Rick's psycho episode?  I did not realize that.


Me either....WTF
 
2013-02-17 10:58:15 PM

NeoCortex42: So Tyreese's group left the prison after Rick's psycho episode?  I did not realize that.


Rick kicked them out.
 
2013-02-17 10:59:33 PM

One Bad Apple: NeoCortex42: So Tyreese's group left the prison after Rick's psycho episode?  I did not realize that.

Rick kicked them out.


Guess so. I think we could have still done with a shot of them actually walking off the prison grounds, though.
 
2013-02-17 10:59:47 PM

One Bad Apple: NeoCortex42: So Tyreese's group left the prison after Rick's psycho episode?  I did not realize that.

Rick kicked them out.


Glenn ushered them to the door once Rick started going batshiat... guess they saw themselves out the gate.
 
2013-02-17 11:00:33 PM

One Bad Apple: NeoCortex42: So Tyreese's group left the prison after Rick's psycho episode?  I did not realize that.

Rick kicked them out.


Rick just scared them off with his craziness. I hope Tyreese took his hammer.
 
2013-02-17 11:00:44 PM

NeoCortex42: So Tyreese's group left the prison after Rick's psycho episode?  I did not realize that.


They may sneak back in the same way they got in before
 
2013-02-17 11:01:19 PM
Not only do I not need a band to play during Talking Dead, I especially do not need a forgetably mediocre one.
 
2013-02-17 11:07:55 PM

Kentucky Fried Children: One Bad Apple: NeoCortex42: So Tyreese's group left the prison after Rick's psycho episode?  I did not realize that.

Rick kicked them out.

Glenn ushered them to the door once Rick started going batshiat... guess they saw themselves out the gate.


At the time, I had taken that scene as "Hey guys, Rick is dealing with some shiat right now. So we'll talk about your staying later, when the crazy subsides."
 
2013-02-17 11:10:19 PM
Watching the 11 pm broadcast. The apparition device is insulting to the audience and the death of the show. Enough with the Mother Abigail shut.
 
2013-02-17 11:14:35 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Why is the dude from True Blood on here?


More important question: why was he clothed?
 
2013-02-17 11:15:38 PM
Retta on the Talking Dead next week. She could be an awesome guest.
 
2013-02-17 11:19:11 PM
Carl is the perfect name for an out door cat, or a dog who digs under fences.  That's all I have to contribute.
 
2013-02-17 11:19:33 PM

T.M.S.: Watching the 11 pm broadcast. The apparition device is insulting to the audience and the death of the show. Enough with the Mother Abigail shut.


Apparently Andrew Lincoln wasn't a big fan of it either, but at least it's all in his head. It's not like she's an actual ghost.
 
2013-02-17 11:19:45 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Why is the dude from True Blood on here?


Because he is awesome.

/No, I don't have a mancrush on him AT ALL.
 
2013-02-17 11:21:12 PM

T.M.S.: Watching the 11 pm broadcast. The apparition device is insulting to the audience and the death of the show. Enough with the Mother Abigail shut.


I'm hoping it turns out he's picked up a fungal infection of the brain or something.
 
2013-02-17 11:24:40 PM
Late to the thread, but I'd like to weigh in saying that The Walking Dead is an awesome show.  Is is perfect?  No.  But it beats the hell out of CSI and all that other crap that's so popular.  And as for the characters doing stupid things, well they would do stupid things.  They were just regular people thrust into the worst kind of apocalypse, and the mistakes they make, and the dumb crap they get up to, make them seem like real people.  As for Rick going batshiat, well, look at the pressure he's been under since day one, and it's been what, about a year since day one?

/I'm glad Daryl is back, and that he brought Merle with him.  The writers can do a lot with Merle.  Asshole that will cause problems within the group, and until the group 86's the Governor, there's always the chance he'll betray them.
//This show is good stuff, guys.  Just enjoy it for what it is.
 
2013-02-17 11:28:59 PM
only a few posts about the scars/tattoo's on Daryl's back but i have a different comment about it.

Did anyone else notice when the tattoos are first shown, they are on the right side of his back, but as he walks away they are on the left?
I don't know if they were ever shown before so not sure where they belong.
 
2013-02-17 11:31:03 PM

Deacon Blue: Late to the thread, but I'd like to weigh in saying that The Walking Dead is an awesome show. .


There are four or five better things on TV at the moment, Game of Thrones and Breaking Mad being two of them.
 
2013-02-17 11:33:16 PM

Deacon Blue: Late to the thread, but I'd like to weigh in saying that The Walking Dead is an awesome show. Is is perfect? No. But it beats the hell out of CSI and all that other crap that's so popular. And as for the characters doing stupid things, well they would do stupid things. They were just regular people thrust into the worst kind of apocalypse, and the mistakes they make, and the dumb crap they get up to, make them seem like real people. As for Rick going batshiat, well, look at the pressure he's been under since day one, and it's been what, about a year since day one?


The problem is that the first episode of the third season established the group as an efficient killing machine that trusted each other implicitly.  That's all fallen apart since they entered the prison.  I would understand it if this were the camp or the farm, but at this point in their development, they shouldn't be making these kinds of mistakes.  They aren't regular people anymore.  That's supposed to be the difference between the prison group and Woodbury.  I think they could have achieved the same end in this episode without all of the characters going emo and wandering off when they knew an enemy was coming.
 
2013-02-17 11:34:06 PM

NeoCortex42: Tencolin: NeoCortex42: Kentucky Fried Children: Axel just revealed he was gonna be a serial killer rapist in early drafts of his TV character... kinda glad they changed it up, less cartooney.  And it was fun with him still being a creeper around the ladies, minus the whole RAPE RAPE RAPE thing

There was a lot of internal group strife during the prison arc of the comic that was completely dropped for the TV series. Some of it was good, but I do enjoy that the TV series is really its own thing since it keeps me surprised regularly.

I agree. It's nice being surprised by both the little and large differences. It's cool that he could play such a nice guy who was still creepy. I have to admit that I was always squeamish when he was in a potential position to be near the ladies (and especially Beth).

This is one case where I think knowing how twisted his comic character was made me appreciate the TV version even more.


I don't remember Axel's comic character being particularly twisted.  I mean, a little pervy, but not much worse than what I imagine any other prison inmate in a zombie apocalypse being...
 
2013-02-17 11:34:28 PM

Dwight_Yeast: T.M.S.: Watching the 11 pm broadcast. The apparition device is insulting to the audience and the death of the show. Enough with the Mother Abigail shut.

I'm hoping it turns out he's picked up a fungal infection of the brain or something.


Speaking of fungal infections, is anyone else interested by The Last of Us, the zombie game coming this summer from the crew who did the Uncharted Games? Apparently they based the zombie infection on a fungus that zombifies ants.
 
2013-02-17 11:34:50 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Deacon Blue: Late to the thread, but I'd like to weigh in saying that The Walking Dead is an awesome show. .

There are four or five better things on TV at the moment, Game of Thrones and Breaking Mad being two of them.


Breaking Mad SUCKS, it is almost as bad a Breaking Bad!
 
2013-02-17 11:38:01 PM

Mad_Radhu: Dwight_Yeast: T.M.S.: Watching the 11 pm broadcast. The apparition device is insulting to the audience and the death of the show. Enough with the Mother Abigail shut.

I'm hoping it turns out he's picked up a fungal infection of the brain or something.

Speaking of fungal infections, is anyone else interested by The Last of Us, the zombie game coming this summer from the crew who did the Uncharted Games? Apparently they based the zombie infection on a fungus that zombifies ants.


I've heard about it.  Sounds interesting.
 
2013-02-18 12:13:30 AM
This is it? For three seasons all we heard about was "wait till the prison", "wait till we meet the governor". Three hours into season three and the prison serves as nothing more than a way to shoot on cheap sets. (They even saved money on locks cause almost none  of the prison doors do)

The governors biggest crime (other than the  cliche of a pet zombie) is standing with a bunch of other rednecks firing ther unlimited ammo rifles at the the bulletproof gang. Other than that the gov is a total pussy.

Farm girl has lost her will to live cause she got roughed up a little.

And Rick is wandering around as a homeless person seeing Stand like visions and confirming the show is a first person narrative.
 
2013-02-18 12:19:21 AM

Craptastic: Mugato: Handlebar'shiatting on Jamie Lee Curtis.

Goddamn... THAT's why I find her so attractive. How did I never make that connection?

I wonder if she eats special yogurt that makes her poop?


That's how I usually start up conversations with women I've just met.
 
2013-02-18 12:34:42 AM
The shootout in the prison was just bad.  Too many suspensions of belief.

First of all, nobody at all notices some guy climbing in the tower right in front of them.  Ok, so nobody was on guard duty.  Fine.

Then you've got Rick lying on his hip in the grass with an ACOG M4 and he's taking those terrible shots and hitting nothing?

5.56 peppering Dead Mustache Guy and not killing Carol?

Maggie and Carl shooting from the hip while running to cover, then Maggie taking all those excruciatingly bad shots with the scoped M16.  I mean wow, let's use up all of our bullets while not aiming.

The Governor was wide open the entire time with that unscoped bullpup rifle.  Nobody got a shot on him, at all.

I get it they were taken by surprise, but c'mon,  this group is also supposed to be battle hardened after living on the road for months against zombies.  They looked like idiots that had to be saved by Darryl and Merle.  Oh, now I get it.

BTW, what is so scary about the yard full of zombies?  Didn't they clear the prison already by just baiting them to the fence and and stabbing them one by one?  They have Michonne this time, she can rampage with her blade.

Just a hard to believe action sequence.
 
2013-02-18 12:35:26 AM
This is it? For three season all I have heard is "this show is terrible". Ten episodes into season 3, I still watch the show so that I can show Farkers how superior I am (my narrative and show exposition have even started to sound repetitive).
The shows biggest crime (other that the cliche "this show is a cliche") is me criticizing yet still watching the show.
Now I am wondering as a homeless person seeking to prove how superior I am for disliking yet watching this show, confirming how much of an a-hole I am.
 
2013-02-18 12:36:20 AM
Idiot coworker would not STFU tonight when I tried to watch so I have a few questions.

1. Where did the scars on Daryl's back come from?
2. What happened to the driver of the zombie delivery bus?
3. What happened to the henchman with the backwards hat who was shooting at Rick in the woods?

Thanks!
 
2013-02-18 12:42:38 AM
Yeah, totally forgot about the driver of the van with the helmet on.  Looked like a woman, was probably Andrea which might explain the helmet.
 
2013-02-18 12:45:49 AM

flamingboar: Idiot coworker would not STFU tonight when I tried to watch so I have a few questions.

1. Where did the scars on Daryl's back come from?
2. What happened to the driver of the zombie delivery bus?
3. What happened to the henchman with the backwards hat who was shooting at Rick in the woods?

Thanks!


1. Sounds like their dad used to beat them.
2. Driver ran out the gates. I guess back to the Governor.
3. Last we saw him, he went into the woods. Probably also going back to the Governor and the truck.
 
2013-02-18 12:46:22 AM

flamingboar: Idiot coworker would not STFU tonight when I tried to watch so I have a few questions.

1. Where did the scars on Daryl's back come from?
2. What happened to the driver of the zombie delivery bus?
3. What happened to the henchman with the backwards hat who was shooting at Rick in the woods?

Thanks!


1) Ostensibly the scars were from Daddy beating on him as a kid - he blames Merle in part for ditching him at a young age, so he was the only one to take Dad's rage-beatings
2) Undetermined, last we saw she ran off-screen past the zombie Fedex-mobile
3) He's the Gov's right-hand man since Merle is gone, although I don't recall seeing it I assume he jumped into the truck with the Gov as they went back to Woodbury
 
2013-02-18 12:47:06 AM

flamingboar: Idiot coworker would not STFU tonight when I tried to watch so I have a few questions.

1. Where did the scars on Daryl's back come from?
2. What happened to the driver of the zombie delivery bus?
3. What happened to the henchman with the backwards hat who was shooting at Rick in the woods?

Thanks!


1)  Merle and Darryl's father beat them.  Merle left to avoid killing him which left Darryl with abandonment issues.
2)  She hopped out, took a few potshots at Michonne, and then ran out the gate
3)  Escaped
 
2013-02-18 01:03:53 AM
Character building = death. It's why Michonne is such a great survivor. She never says anything, doesn't tell anyone about herself. She'll never die that way. Meth boy starts talking, tells Carol about his life, and that was the end of it.
 
2013-02-18 01:13:10 AM
Thank you for the answers. I will miss crazy story time from Axel now. He was like a mustached Ellis from L4D2.
 
2013-02-18 01:15:51 AM

eagles95: So everyone has PTSD?


It's the zombie apocalypse, so yeah.
 
2013-02-18 01:45:13 AM
God I hate that trope so much, the one where only the bad guys can shoot straight.  How is it four people with as much experience shooting as these folks have by now couldn't knock off one guy standing out in the open in a tower?  Why couldn't Rick hit dude when he was using a scope?  How were four guys keeping six people in three different locations covered?
 
2013-02-18 01:47:08 AM

theurge14: The shootout in the prison was just bad.  Too many suspensions of belief.

First of all, nobody at all notices some guy climbing in the tower right in front of them.  Ok, so nobody was on guard duty.  Fine.

Then you've got Rick lying on his hip in the grass with an ACOG M4 and he's taking those terrible shots and hitting nothing?

5.56 peppering Dead Mustache Guy and not killing Carol?

Maggie and Carl shooting from the hip while running to cover, then Maggie taking all those excruciatingly bad shots with the scoped M16.  I mean wow, let's use up all of our bullets while not aiming.

The Governor was wide open the entire time with that unscoped bullpup rifle.  Nobody got a shot on him, at all.

I get it they were taken by surprise, but c'mon,  this group is also supposed to be battle hardened after living on the road for months against zombies.  They looked like idiots that had to be saved by Darryl and Merle.  Oh, now I get it.

BTW, what is so scary about the yard full of zombies?  Didn't they clear the prison already by just baiting them to the fence and and stabbing them one by one?  They have Michonne this time, she can rampage with her blade.

Just a hard to believe action sequence.


I also expect much more from these grizzled old veterans of gun battles.
/I don't think they are that battle hardened when their targets usually don't shoot back.
 
2013-02-18 01:54:47 AM
Not reading the entire thread yet, but does anyone else think the Governor used a woman zombie delivery driver in order to set up Andrea in the eyes of her old group?
 
2013-02-18 01:54:48 AM

timujin: God I hate that trope so much, the one where only the bad guys can shoot straight.  How is it four people with as much experience shooting as these folks have by now couldn't knock off one guy standing out in the open in a tower?  Why couldn't Rick hit dude when he was using a scope?  How were four guys keeping six people in three different locations covered?


Almost all firefights suffer from the same nonsensical stuff. I've learned to ignore it for the most part, but it is lazy writing and does drive me crazy some times.

How it should have gone down is the zombie party bus should have come crashing through the gates at the beginning of the attack. That way the group would have been trying to fight of zombies while defending the prison which would have excused their sudden inability to shoot straight.
 
2013-02-18 02:07:06 AM

timujin: God I hate that trope so much, the one where only the bad guys can shoot straight.  How is it four people with as much experience shooting as these folks have by now couldn't knock off one guy standing out in the open in a tower?  Why couldn't Rick hit dude when he was using a scope?  How were four guys keeping six people in three different locations covered?


1. because they were also being shot at.
2. while it's just a tv show, it's still slightly more realistic than call of duty.
3. his scope isn't exactly a sniper scope. It's not made for long distance accuracy like a regular scope on a hunting rifle is. also see 1 and 2.
4. two of teh locations were in the same direction, one was just further away.
5. (should have been one) the trope is that only the bad guys CAN'T shot straight. see every a-team episode ever made.
 
2013-02-18 02:39:03 AM

MagSeven: Not reading the entire thread yet, but does anyone else think the Governor used a woman zombie delivery driver in order to set up Andrea in the eyes of her old group?


Probably, but that's lazy writing.
 
2013-02-18 02:39:52 AM

flamingboar: Thank you for the answers. I will miss crazy story time from Axel now. He was like a mustached Ellis from L4D2.


Me too. I was starting to like the guy.


theurge14: Just a hard to believe action sequence.


Agreed. I almost started yelling at my TV.

On the plus side Rick now appears to be mad pissed instead of just mad crazy.
 
2013-02-18 02:41:09 AM

Mugato: Trunk kill has to be the kill of the week.


Agreed. That was farking awesome.
 
2013-02-18 02:45:12 AM
That was dumb. Our prison heroes should have easily killed the van driver at the very least. How are we supposed to root for these dumb-asses when they're so utterly incompetent?

It's getting to the point that I want to see them all get eaten because they are clearly demonstrating that they're all completely unfit to survive a zombie apocalypse (well, except for Darryl).

They know the governor is coming for them and yet don't bother to set a lookout on the tower, their only able-bodied male abandons them on a RAGE-misson, and then they let a hostile climb their own tower. Morans! They're still acting like Camp Dinner Bell from season one.

And now Maggie is an unsympathetic mood-swinging irrational biatch-harpy. Yay Lori 2.0.

I still enjoyed the zombie kills and Andrew Lincoln's performance. I love hating this stupid show.

/and it was nice to see Lori looking so pretty.
 
2013-02-18 02:53:24 AM
Max Awesome:

And now Maggie is an unsympathetic mood-swinging irrational biatch-harpy. Yay Lori 2.0.

Maggie's pregnant?

/i thot Andrea was Lori 2.0?
 
2013-02-18 02:53:26 AM

FunkOut: Rick's going insane from the stress of having to pretend he's not British.


Maggie doesn't seem to have that problem. The Gov on the other hand...
 
2013-02-18 03:00:28 AM

Twist-42: only a few posts about the scars/tattoo's on Daryl's back but i have a different comment about it.

Did anyone else notice when the tattoos are first shown, they are on the right side of his back, but as he walks away they are on the left?
I don't know if they were ever shown before so not sure where they belong.


Yeah, they were switched.  Pretty huge continuity goof.  They often mirror different scenes in post because they like the composition better that way.  I hope that's how that happened.

... Just now watching the scene again, the arrows switch sides on the backpack so I'd say it's a safe bet they mirrored one of the shots.
 
2013-02-18 03:06:29 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Max Awesome:

And now Maggie is an unsympathetic mood-swinging irrational biatch-harpy. Yay Lori 2.0.

Maggie's pregnant?


Are you saying you didn't watch the baby feeding scene?  My god, her sister practically winked at her during that exchange.
 
2013-02-18 03:19:46 AM

lewismarktwo: Pretty huge continuity goof.


Speaking of: I just noticed in the slo-mo "In Memoriam" segment that Rick's Colt Python, despite being used to viciously bash the brains out of several walkers has absolutely not a drop of blood or gore on it when seen in close-up when the walkers pin him to the fence.
 
2013-02-18 03:21:59 AM

fusillade762: lewismarktwo: Pretty huge continuity goof.

Speaking of: I just noticed in the slo-mo "In Memoriam" segment that Rick's Colt Python, despite being used to viciously bash the brains out of several walkers has absolutely not a drop of blood or gore on it when seen in close-up when the walkers pin him to the fence.


I swear he was stabbing walkers with the barrel of it somehow.
 
2013-02-18 03:28:59 AM

MagSeven: fusillade762: lewismarktwo: Pretty huge continuity goof.

Speaking of: I just noticed in the slo-mo "In Memoriam" segment that Rick's Colt Python, despite being used to viciously bash the brains out of several walkers has absolutely not a drop of blood or gore on it when seen in close-up when the walkers pin him to the fence.

I swear he was stabbing walkers with the barrel of it somehow.


Yup. And still clean as a whistle. Or rather a whistle that hasn't been used to kill a bunch of zombies.
 
2013-02-18 03:32:53 AM

fusillade762: MagSeven: fusillade762: lewismarktwo: Pretty huge continuity goof.

Speaking of: I just noticed in the slo-mo "In Memoriam" segment that Rick's Colt Python, despite being used to viciously bash the brains out of several walkers has absolutely not a drop of blood or gore on it when seen in close-up when the walkers pin him to the fence.

I swear he was stabbing walkers with the barrel of it somehow.

Yup. And still clean as a whistle. Or rather a whistle that hasn't been used to kill a bunch of zombies.


It's teflon!
 
2013-02-18 04:28:16 AM
Ha! Re-watching again. I love how both the good guys and bad guys all stop and stare in awe as the zombie delivery truck casually unloads. It's like a load screen. Round Two......BEGIN!
 
2013-02-18 05:02:16 AM

jeffjo52: Breaking Mad SUCKS, it is almost as bad a Breaking Bad!


Breaking Mad is farking awesome!  How can you not love a show about an ad exec with polio who cooks meth in his Madison Ave office?

/I think I might have some things conflated
 
2013-02-18 05:26:53 AM
Even more ludicrousness is the fact that in spite of nearly every conflict quickly turning into hand to hand combat (and in spite of each one of them having an unlimited ammo weapon) not a single character carries so much as a spatula to ward off zombies. Remember two seasons ago when the kid found what he described as an "arsenal" of  bladed weapons?  And each member of the cast carried one?

I guess the Fiskars Cutlery Company only paid for one season of product placement. But they sure got their money's worth. The scene where the machetes and axes were handed out one by one was particularly amusing. Those weapons seemed so important at the time.
 
2013-02-18 05:37:39 AM
Ugh. The whole Rick going crazy thing was annoying, but I figured I could power through it. But then the end... I haven't figured out if in this universe, people have some sort of bullet forcefield, or if walkers have some sort of magnet in their heads that draws bullets, but damn. The same people who could run around headshotting zombies across large distances can't hit regular people standing out in the open. Not even moving, or taking cover. Hell, even when they aren't even looking your direction. Absolute suspension of disbelief killer.

I'll give it another show, but if they are going to continue to completely change how the physics of the world works based on what they need for that particular episode, I'm going to be done. Just too frustrating to watch.
 
2013-02-18 05:58:56 AM

timujin: God I hate that trope so much, the one where only the bad guys can shoot straight.


Yeah, Star Wars could have really gone places if it wasn't only 7 minutes long.
 
2013-02-18 06:14:09 AM

Bhruic: Ugh. The whole Rick going crazy thing was annoying, but I figured I could power through it. But then the end... I haven't figured out if in this universe, people have some sort of bullet forcefield, or if walkers have some sort of magnet in their heads that draws bullets, but damn. The same people who could run around headshotting zombies across large distances can't hit regular people standing out in the open. Not even moving, or taking cover. Hell, even when they aren't even looking your direction. Absolute suspension of disbelief killer.

I'll give it another show, but if they are going to continue to completely change how the physics of the world works based on what they need for that particular episode, I'm going to be done. Just too frustrating to watch.


I'll give you the "drive-by headshot masters with unlimited ammo" episode was completely ridiculous, but I really wasn't bothered by this gun fight at all. They were being shot at and Rick's group has almost zero experience shooting at people who shoot back. Hell, in his first appearance, Rick lost a gun battle. I can see them shooting well at zombies, they have time to aim or are close enough to not really have to. In this, they were pinned down and scared to death. Rick, the best shot there, ran out of ammo. Carl was pretty badass, but how accurate is a pistol or whatever he had at that range anyway. The only time they could set up a good shot was when zombie fedex came crashing through and everyone on both sides inexplicably froze, well that and the Governor's first shot. The Governor was really the only baddie out in the open as well. Martinez had wood cover, Afroman had the truck for cover and the guy in the tower had the high ground, pinning Carl and the ladies down. I think they left the Governor all cavalier and unprotected just to up his bad ass cred and delusions of grandeur like they did when Gus marched towards his attempted assassination in Breaking Bad. This was probably unrealistic (I have zero gunfighting experience so I cannot attest), but it's not a deal breaker or even a real problem for me on any level.
 
2013-02-18 06:15:13 AM

T.M.S.: And Rick is wandering around as a homeless person seeing Stand like visions and confirming the show is a first person narrative.


You saw Daryl's hallucinations and that didn't permanently alter the pov.  I hate to stifle your heartbreak, but expository dream sequences are fairly common on television too.
 
2013-02-18 06:17:25 AM

log_jammin: 5. (should have been one) the trope is that only the bad guys CAN'T shot straight. see every a-team episode ever made.


Maybe timujin's a union delegate for henchmen.
 
2013-02-18 10:05:18 AM
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2013-02-18 11:02:40 AM
Rick is nuttier than a jar of Skippy. But he's still a better leader than Glenn.
 
2013-02-18 11:09:20 AM

MagSeven: I'll give you the "drive-by headshot masters with unlimited ammo" episode was completely ridiculous, but I really wasn't bothered by this gun fight at all. They were being shot at and Rick's group has almost zero experience shooting at people who shoot back. Hell, in his first appearance, Rick lost a gun battle. I can see them shooting well at zombies, they have time to aim or are close enough to not really have to. In this, they were pinned down and scared to death. Rick, the best shot there, ran out of ammo. Carl was pretty badass, but how accurate is a pistol or whatever he had at that range anyway. The only time they could set up a good shot was when zombie fedex came crashing through and everyone on both sides inexplicably froze, well that and the Governor's first shot. The Governor was really the only baddie out in the open as well. Martinez had wood cover, Afroman had the truck for cover and the guy in the tower had the high ground, pinning Carl and the ladies down. I think they left the Governor all cavalier and unprotected just to up his bad ass cred and delusions of grandeur like they did when Gus marched towards his attempted assassination in Breaking Bad. This was probably unrealistic (I have zero gunfighting experience so I cannot attest), but it's not a deal breaker or even a real problem for me on any level.


That's all fine and good, but it doesn't change the fact that the writers are assigning the characters situational skills.  The protagonists are dead-eye shots, nailing moving walkers in the head from a moving car with a shotgun, but they can't hit humans because the humans are shooting back?  There are much better ways to present that than what happened in this episode.  But I still can't get past that this season established the group as an efficient killing machine that suddenly forgets everything about survival in a moment when they know they are going to be under attack.  A few plot tweaks were all that was necessary to offer essentially the same battle but in a more realistic way.  Instead of Rick going crazy train, he and Glenn could have been in the tombs trying to find the breach when the Governor attacked.  As someone said earlier, the walker attack could have been launched first to distract the group while the Governor's men followed behind.  Same result, more easily digestible.  Instead, the writers went for cheap drama.  Maybe it's a minor gripe in the grand scheme of things, but it was big enough to annoy me and I usually don't get annoyed at this show.
 
2013-02-18 11:11:22 AM
Trocadero: Character building = death. It's why Michonne is such a great survivor.


 Character building? The Govenor has been our onscreen antagonist for EIGHT HOURS of television and we know next to nothing about him other than he is a colossal farkup and completely ineffective as a leader. We were promised a sadistic bastard and we got sheriff Roscoe P. Coltrane.


Ninja chick is a great survivor because the writers don't have the slightest idea what to do with her. We were promised a badass and we got a girl who endlessly wanders between the prison and Mayberry.

I will give that governor a tiny bit of credit. When he brought down the full and awesome wrath of his forces they did manage to shoot one guy who was just standing there i
 
2013-02-18 11:37:25 AM

Mentat: Deacon Blue: Late to the thread, but I'd like to weigh in saying that The Walking Dead is an awesome show. Is is perfect? No. But it beats the hell out of CSI and all that other crap that's so popular. And as for the characters doing stupid things, well they would do stupid things. They were just regular people thrust into the worst kind of apocalypse, and the mistakes they make, and the dumb crap they get up to, make them seem like real people. As for Rick going batshiat, well, look at the pressure he's been under since day one, and it's been what, about a year since day one?

The problem is that the first episode of the third season established the group as an efficient killing machine that trusted each other implicitly.  That's all fallen apart since they entered the prison.  I would understand it if this were the camp or the farm, but at this point in their development, they shouldn't be making these kinds of mistakes.  They aren't regular people anymore.  That's supposed to be the difference between the prison group and Woodbury.  I think they could have achieved the same end in this episode without all of the characters going emo and wandering off when they knew an enemy was coming.


They're also very, very tired.  And the group dynamic that kept them going has been shattered with the loss of T-Dog and Lori, as well as Hershel's crippling injury.  Rick got them through the winter, and now he's gone insane.  They're simply falling apart.
 
2013-02-18 11:41:42 AM
It's a lot harder to accurately fire a weapon when you're also being shot at.
 
2013-02-18 12:05:51 PM

Popcorn Johnny: It's a lot harder to accurately fire a weapon when you're also being shot at.


Again:

Head shots to multiple moving walkers from a moving vehicle with a shotgun - yes
Any shot to a prone target out of cover who is firing back - no

I get what you're saying and I agree, but there are better ways to convey that than situational incompetence.
 
2013-02-18 12:23:15 PM
And lest it look like I'm just mindlessly biatching, this is how I would have constructed the battle:

Dispense with the Ghost Lori and Maggie = Lori 2.0 subplots.  If you need to establish that Rick is going crazy, have him talk into the Lori Phone.  Bring Tyreese's group into the fold.  Have Glenn step up as a leader in the absence of Darryl.  Have the group revert to their killing machine mode and begin preparing the prison for an assault.  And I don't mean putting up a few tables and pallets, but actually assessing defenses, drilling, etc.  Play on the conceptions of the group that were established in the first episode of Season 3.  Let the group and the audience believe that the group is ready for anything and then rip that foundation out from under them during the actual attack.  Lead off with the van full of walkers.  While the group is distracted, have the Governor attack and kill Axel and some of Tyreese's red shirts.  Suddenly the group is in disarray.  Their cohesion breaks.  They know they're beaten, the Governor knows they're beaten, the audience knows they're beaten.

Same story, same result, no Reverse Stormtrooper Effect, no situational stupidity.
 
2013-02-18 12:31:44 PM

Ennuipoet: I have my problems with the show, but damn am I glad I never read the comic.

/I have to read them now don't I?


I made that mistake. After getting into the show, I started reading the comics, I hate them. The show is much better when you're not burdened with fanboy expectations.
 
2013-02-18 12:35:53 PM

sirbissel: NeoCortex42: Tencolin: NeoCortex42: Kentucky Fried Children: Axel just revealed he was gonna be a serial killer rapist in early drafts of his TV character... kinda glad they changed it up, less cartooney.  And it was fun with him still being a creeper around the ladies, minus the whole RAPE RAPE RAPE thing

There was a lot of internal group strife during the prison arc of the comic that was completely dropped for the TV series. Some of it was good, but I do enjoy that the TV series is really its own thing since it keeps me surprised regularly.

I agree. It's nice being surprised by both the little and large differences. It's cool that he could play such a nice guy who was still creepy. I have to admit that I was always squeamish when he was in a potential position to be near the ladies (and especially Beth).

This is one case where I think knowing how twisted his comic character was made me appreciate the TV version even more.

I don't remember Axel's comic character being particularly twisted.  I mean, a little pervy, but not much worse than what I imagine any other prison inmate in a zombie apocalypse being...


You don't remember him chopping up a couple little girls then being executed for it?

Interesting...

Add him to the list of characters they totally screwed up.
 
2013-02-18 12:40:27 PM
How the prison fight was SUPPOSED to go down.

Governor gets tortured by Michone. In retaliation, he convinces the town they should attack the prison because of how sick they are and what they did to him. ~20 rag tag governor led civilians attack the prison only to find that Rick's group (and Andrea sniping from the watchtower - irony) decimate them, forcing a humiliating retreat.

THEN Rick's group decides to retaliate as the best defense is a good offense.

The concept was there, but yet again, the comic was far superior to the stupid show.
 
2013-02-18 12:54:37 PM
I keep thinking big bearded black guy at Woodburry is going to switch sides soon.
 
2013-02-18 01:03:09 PM

Crewmannumber6: I keep thinking big bearded black guy at Woodburry is going to switch sides soon.


Not as long as the One Black Man Rule is in effect.
 
2013-02-18 01:04:17 PM

Mentat: Crewmannumber6: I keep thinking big bearded black guy at Woodburry is going to switch sides soon.

Not as long as the One Black Man Rule is in effect.


By now they're aware of us being onto that and will keep two around just to piss people off
 
2013-02-18 01:24:07 PM

Mentat: And lest it look like I'm just mindlessly biatching, this is how I would have constructed the battle:

Dispense with the Ghost Lori and Maggie = Lori 2.0 subplots.  If you need to establish that Rick is going crazy, have him talk into the Lori Phone.  Bring Tyreese's group into the fold.  Have Glenn step up as a leader in the absence of Darryl.  Have the group revert to their killing machine mode and begin preparing the prison for an assault.  And I don't mean putting up a few tables and pallets, but actually assessing defenses, drilling, etc.  Play on the conceptions of the group that were established in the first episode of Season 3.  Let the group and the audience believe that the group is ready for anything and then rip that foundation out from under them during the actual attack.  Lead off with the van full of walkers.  While the group is distracted, have the Governor attack and kill Axel and some of Tyreese's red shirts.  Suddenly the group is in disarray.  Their cohesion breaks.  They know they're beaten, the Governor knows they're beaten, the audience knows they're beaten.

Same story, same result, no Reverse Stormtrooper Effect, no situational stupidity.


Mentat for... uhhh what..... the 4th! showrunner of TWD!
 
2013-02-18 01:45:18 PM

jrodr018: This is it? For three season all I have heard is "this show is terrible". Ten episodes into season 3, I still watch the show so that I can show Farkers how superior I am (my narrative and show exposition have even started to sound repetitive).
The shows biggest crime (other that the cliche "this show is a cliche") is me criticizing yet still watching the show.
Now I am wondering as a homeless person seeking to prove how superior I am for disliking yet watching this show, confirming how much of an a-hole I am.


Sorry I just noticed this post. It would be rude not to agnowlege.
I just wish it had a bit more wit considering how much work you put into it.  Its been up for hours now. Was it worth all the effort? Or are you now feeling sort of stupid for having gone to so much trouble whining about another persons opinion on a television show about zombies.

I truly am curious.
 
2013-02-18 01:46:20 PM
Great_Milenko:

They're also very, very tired.  And the group dynamic that kept them going has been shattered with the loss of T-Dog and Lori, as well as Hershel's crippling injury.  Rick got them through the winter, and now he's gone insane.  They're simply falling apart.


Great point made!  Now the question is, how do they react?  I say hit Woodbury at night with a few flaming arrows and be done with it.  What are they gonna put the fires out with?
 
2013-02-18 01:57:41 PM

jt_in_ri: Great_Milenko:

They're also very, very tired.  And the group dynamic that kept them going has been shattered with the loss of T-Dog and Lori, as well as Hershel's crippling injury.  Rick got them through the winter, and now he's gone insane.  They're simply falling apart.


Great point made!  Now the question is, how do they react?  I say hit Woodbury at night with a few flaming arrows and be done with it.  What are they gonna put the fires out with?


The LAPD approves of your tactics
 
2013-02-18 02:15:13 PM
You guys are letting hollywood and video games color your opinions on how a firefight should or should not look. Yes. There is a HUGE difference between shooting at zombies, and shooting at someone who is shooting back. Yes even if you are both stationary. I dont know the exact number but ive seen statistics where in current and past wars that soldiers would fire tens or hundreds of thousands of rounds for every one kill made. And that is among men who are highly trained to handle those situations with those weapons. When you got bulkets whizzing by your head, shiat gets real messy real fast.

So sure, by season 3 ep. 1, they were zombie killing machines. They had a lot of experience with it. Guess what they had almost zero experience with? Being shot AT. Worrying about cover. Or vantage points. Or flanking maneuvers. Or anything associated with an actual firefight. The few guys who DID have experience either werebt there or cut off from the rest and left highly exposed.

So, you know, stop biatching.
 
2013-02-18 02:25:34 PM

T.M.S.: jrodr018: This is it? For three season all I have heard is "this show is terrible". Ten episodes into season 3, I still watch the show so that I can show Farkers how superior I am (my narrative and show exposition have even started to sound repetitive).
The shows biggest crime (other that the cliche "this show is a cliche") is me criticizing yet still watching the show.
Now I am wondering as a homeless person seeking to prove how superior I am for disliking yet watching this show, confirming how much of an a-hole I am.

Sorry I just noticed this post. It would be rude not to agnowlege.
I just wish it had a bit more wit considering how much work you put into it.  Its been up for hours now. Was it worth all the effort? Or are you now feeling sort of stupid for having gone to so much trouble whining about another persons opinion on a television show about zombies.

I truly am curious.


I don't know...  jrodr018  is making sense. Its certainly not about "people who have an opinion". Its more about how lame it is to get your jollies out of ONLY sharing negative opinions and making huge deals about small details.

You shouldn't watch the show just to have material to cry about on threads. For instance, how does making the action sequence at the end more realistic advance the plot? Why are people complaining about the physics of situations while zombies themselves are impossible due to thermodynamics? Should the cancel the show because of that? Why does the obvious danger of having a van full of zombies plowed into the base while also engaging in a gun battle have to be explained?
 
2013-02-18 03:20:17 PM

Crewmannumber6: After getting into the show, I started reading the comics, I hate them. The show is much better when you're not burdened with fanboy expectations you don't know how good it could have been.


There, FTFY.  The comics have problems but the actual story told in them beats the living shiat out of what has aired on AMC.  Period.
 
2013-02-18 03:21:00 PM

chewy milk: You guys are letting hollywood and video games color your opinions on how a firefight should or should not look. Yes. There is a HUGE difference between shooting at zombies, and shooting at someone who is shooting back. Yes even if you are both stationary. I dont know the exact number but ive seen statistics where in current and past wars that soldiers would fire tens or hundreds of thousands of rounds for every one kill made. And that is among men who are highly trained to handle those situations with those weapons. When you got bulkets whizzing by your head, shiat gets real messy real fast.

So sure, by season 3 ep. 1, they were zombie killing machines. They had a lot of experience with it. Guess what they had almost zero experience with? Being shot AT. Worrying about cover. Or vantage points. Or flanking maneuvers. Or anything associated with an actual firefight. The few guys who DID have experience either werebt there or cut off from the rest and left highly exposed.

So, you know, stop biatching.


No one is arguing that point.  What we're arguing is the situational stupidity of the characters which is reflective of weak writing.  The battle itself was not the issue.  The issue is that a group that were using aimbots for the entire season suddenly decided to send half their group out on walkabout and ignore the bad guys who drove up, occupied the high ground and started shooting.  All of this when the group knew the bad guys were coming.  All it would have taken were a few minor changes to the script and you could have had the same fight.

As for the "shooting back" argument, all it took for me was one round of paintball to learn the value of cover.  I peeked out from behind a tree for one second and immediately took a shot in the face.  Yet the Governor just stood there out in the open.  How many times did Axel get shot once he was on the ground?  How many times did the file cabinet behind Maggie get hit?  How many times did the car door next to the Governor get hit?  And yet the Governor was never in danger?  No, sorry, that was just sloppy.

I'm not someone who comes here every week to bitach about the show.  I generally love it and am willing to overlook a lot.  But this episode was sloppy.  Not sloppy enough to ruin the season or the plotline, but sloppy enough to pull me out of the moment.
 
2013-02-18 03:49:31 PM

Mind of the North Star:


I don't know...  jrodr018  is making sense. Its certainly not about "people who have an opinion". Its more about how lame it is to get your jollies out of ONLY sharing negative opinions and making huge deals about small details.

You shouldn't watch the show just to have material to cry about on threads. For instance, how does making the action sequence at the end more realistic advance the plot? Why are people complaining about the physics of situations while zombies themselves are impossible due to thermodynamics? Should the cancel the show because of that? Why does the obvious danger of having a van full of zombies plowed into the base while also engaging in a gun battle have to be explained?


You don't have the slightest idea why I watch the show. You may have found creating your own reasons amusing but you are wrong and it makes it impossible to take you seriously.

Secondly, we were promised the Governor and Ninja chick were characters who were going to bring the show into an exciting new direction and help erase the stain of the endless and plodding season on the farm. Instead we got a girl with a sword who seems transported to this place from an entirely different comic book universe and a Governor and his men who are about as dangerous as a particularly overzealous community watch group. (But like I said their combined assault of endless terror did manage to kill ONE guy. So there is hope)

Those are not "small details" and thinking they are makes it impossible to take you seriously.

Lastly, you do realize its just a tv show? You are allowed to like it in spite of other people's opinions. Fretting about what other people say makes it impossible to take you seriously.
 
2013-02-18 04:15:59 PM
I say stop focusing on how sloppy the final gunfight was and start discussing how Daryl is a 1 man zombie killing army, hell bent on saving every baby on the planet!
 
2013-02-18 04:33:16 PM

T.M.S.: Mind of the North Star:


I don't know...  jrodr018  is making sense. Its certainly not about "people who have an opinion". Its more about how lame it is to get your jollies out of ONLY sharing negative opinions and making huge deals about small details.

You shouldn't watch the show just to have material to cry about on threads. For instance, how does making the action sequence at the end more realistic advance the plot? Why are people complaining about the physics of situations while zombies themselves are impossible due to thermodynamics? Should the cancel the show because of that? Why does the obvious danger of having a van full of zombies plowed into the base while also engaging in a gun battle have to be explained?

You don't have the slightest idea why I watch the show. You may have found creating your own reasons amusing but you are wrong and it makes it impossible to take you seriously.

Secondly, we were promised the Governor and Ninja chick were characters who were going to bring the show into an exciting new direction and help erase the stain of the endless and plodding season on the farm. Instead we got a girl with a sword who seems transported to this place from an entirely different comic book universe and a Governor and his men who are about as dangerous as a particularly overzealous community watch group. (But like I said their combined assault of endless terror did manage to kill ONE guy. So there is hope)

Those are not "small details" and thinking they are makes it impossible to take you seriously.

Lastly, you do realize its just a tv show? You are allowed to like it in spite of other people's opinions. Fretting about what other people say makes it impossible to take you seriously.


It's just that you seem to make it your mission to hate the show. It's weird. You never seem to have a single good thing to say about the show, yet you apparently tune in every week and then drop in to tell us where it failed you. I'd think by now you'd have given up if you hate it so much.

As for Michonne's sword, again we must point out that undead heads and internals are mushy and weak. That's why it's fairly easy to smash them in, decapitate them, and make short work of them with garden tools. This is not just a Walking Dead trope, but a standard guideline in most Romero-based ghoul stories, which TWD most certainly is.

The alternative is O'Bannon-based stories, in which the undead are sturdier and smarter, a shot to the head doesn't put them down (nor does the lack of muscles or skin), and the only things that end them are fire and electrocution.

I'd love to see how much people would biatch if they'd used O'Bannon zombies.
 
2013-02-18 04:35:35 PM

Mentat: chewy milk: You guys are letting hollywood and video games color your opinions on how a firefight should or should not look. Yes. There is a HUGE difference between shooting at zombies, and shooting at someone who is shooting back. Yes even if you are both stationary. I dont know the exact number but ive seen statistics where in current and past wars that soldiers would fire tens or hundreds of thousands of rounds for every one kill made. And that is among men who are highly trained to handle those situations with those weapons. When you got bulkets whizzing by your head, shiat gets real messy real fast.

So sure, by season 3 ep. 1, they were zombie killing machines. They had a lot of experience with it. Guess what they had almost zero experience with? Being shot AT. Worrying about cover. Or vantage points. Or flanking maneuvers. Or anything associated with an actual firefight. The few guys who DID have experience either werebt there or cut off from the rest and left highly exposed.

So, you know, stop biatching.

No one is arguing that point.  What we're arguing is the situational stupidity of the characters which is reflective of weak writing.  The battle itself was not the issue.  The issue is that a group that were using aimbots for the entire season suddenly decided to send half their group out on walkabout and ignore the bad guys who drove up, occupied the high ground and started shooting.  All of this when the group knew the bad guys were coming.  All it would have taken were a few minor changes to the script and you could have had the same fight.

As for the "shooting back" argument, all it took for me was one round of paintball to learn the value of cover.  I peeked out from behind a tree for one second and immediately took a shot in the face.  Yet the Governor just stood there out in the open.  How many times did Axel get shot once he was on the ground?  How many times did the file cabinet behind Maggie get hit?  How many times did the car door next to the ...


Agrees with the Governor's tactics
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Hot like Napalm
 
2013-02-18 04:43:13 PM
This show has really gone...i dunno.
Season 1 was fantastic then AMC cut the budget like cheap asses and forced Darabont out.
In comes Mazzara and season 2 turned into a bad soap opera.
Season 3 has been so so though. There are episodes where I think I am watching one of those made for syfy channel movies ( bad acting and visuals ), then there are some legit good episodes.

Majority of it has looked like shoddy production. Last episode was pretty bad in that sense. The mirrored scene with Daryl and his tattoo/scars. To that long shot of the passenger door of the zombie van for 10 seconds before someone finally decide to come out of it. Its like, oh look, we are setting up some type of plot...here it comes..wait....wait some more...wait..ok a body armored person that has the shape of a women ( like they were trying to make us think it was Andrea ).

Or the fact the guy in the tower was standing IN THE OPEN AREA OF THE TOWER. How Maggie was hiding behind...filing cabinets in the middle of the yard for protection against bullets from an AR....

Personally I am glad Mazzara got shiat canned. I am sure this is not what Kirkman wanted out of the past two seasons.
 
2013-02-18 04:50:39 PM
Personally, I tune into these threads every week to read the reviews of armchair West Point graduates.
 
2013-02-18 04:59:21 PM

Twist-42: only a few posts about the scars/tattoo's on Daryl's back but i have a different comment about it.

Did anyone else notice when the tattoos are first shown, they are on the right side of his back, but as he walks away they are on the left?
I don't know if they were ever shown before so not sure where they belong.



Aren't those Norman Reedus's real tattoos? I thought he had them in Boondock Saints. Or did I misremember that?
 
2013-02-18 05:06:26 PM

CapnPlaty: Aren't those Norman Reedus's real tattoos?


Yes, the back tattoos are real.

www.celebritytattoodesign.com
 
2013-02-18 05:31:06 PM

Popcorn Johnny: I am wondering where the Governor found the Aug.


They are pretty rare. There can't be many floating around Georgia.
 
2013-02-18 05:38:19 PM

ZeroCorpse: T.M.S.: Mind of the North Star:


I don't know...  jrodr018  is making sense. Its certainly not about "people who have an opinion". Its more about how lame it is to get your jollies out of ONLY sharing negative opinions and making huge deals about small details.

You shouldn't watch the show just to have material to cry about on threads. For instance, how does making the action sequence at the end more realistic advance the plot? Why are people complaining about the physics of situations while zombies themselves are impossible due to thermodynamics? Should the cancel the show because of that? Why does the obvious danger of having a van full of zombies plowed into the base while also engaging in a gun battle have to be explained?

You don't have the slightest idea why I watch the show. You may have found creating your own reasons amusing but you are wrong and it makes it impossible to take you seriously.

Secondly, we were promised the Governor and Ninja chick were characters who were going to bring the show into an exciting new direction and help erase the stain of the endless and plodding season on the farm. Instead we got a girl with a sword who seems transported to this place from an entirely different comic book universe and a Governor and his men who are about as dangerous as a particularly overzealous community watch group. (But like I said their combined assault of endless terror did manage to kill ONE guy. So there is hope)

Those are not "small details" and thinking they are makes it impossible to take you seriously.

Lastly, you do realize its just a tv show? You are allowed to like it in spite of other people's opinions. Fretting about what other people say makes it impossible to take you seriously.

It's just that you seem to make it your mission to hate the show. It's weird. You never seem to have a single good thing to say about the show, yet you apparently tune in every week and then drop in to tell us where it failed you. I'd think by now you'd have ...


I put a fair amount of effort into digesting the first season dramaturgically. But when it immediately fell into regurgitating pre-digested zombie movie plot lines and characters I quickly found the show to be distasteful. And the seasons after that have been even harder to swallow.

It's is a very poorly written show. That's sad because it started with so much potential. But all that has been squandered.

I watch simply because I have to. Zombie fiction has been a huge interest of mine since the mid 70s. It would be unthinkable or me to miss even a poorly conceived, written and produced show such as this.


About the sword, again I must point out my concerns have nothing to do with the suspension of disbelief or picking apart the "reality" of the situation. It's the simple fact that the writers have added a character to the show they have no idea what to do with. And the promise that she would improve things has not materialized.
 
2013-02-18 06:04:53 PM

justtray: sirbissel: NeoCortex42: Tencolin: NeoCortex42: Kentucky Fried Children: Axel just revealed he was gonna be a serial killer rapist in early drafts of his TV character... kinda glad they changed it up, less cartooney.  And it was fun with him still being a creeper around the ladies, minus the whole RAPE RAPE RAPE thing

There was a lot of internal group strife during the prison arc of the comic that was completely dropped for the TV series. Some of it was good, but I do enjoy that the TV series is really its own thing since it keeps me surprised regularly.

I agree. It's nice being surprised by both the little and large differences. It's cool that he could play such a nice guy who was still creepy. I have to admit that I was always squeamish when he was in a potential position to be near the ladies (and especially Beth).

This is one case where I think knowing how twisted his comic character was made me appreciate the TV version even more.

I don't remember Axel's comic character being particularly twisted.  I mean, a little pervy, but not much worse than what I imagine any other prison inmate in a zombie apocalypse being...

You don't remember him chopping up a couple little girls then being executed for it?

Interesting...

Add him to the list of characters they totally screwed up.


That wasn't Axel in the comics who killed the little girls. That was a different character Click for comic spoiler from prison arc The most pervy thing Axel did in the comic was "accidentally" walk in on Carol and Lori in the shower. After that he was harmless.
 
2013-02-18 06:16:25 PM
 Mind of the North Star:


I don't know...  jrodr018  is making sense. Its certainly not about "people who have an opinion". Its more about how lame it is to get your jollies out of ONLY sharing negative opinions and making huge deals about small details.

You shouldn't watch the show just to have material to cry about on threads. For instance, how does making the action sequence at the end more realistic advance the plot? Why are people complaining about the physics of situations while zombies themselves are impossible due to thermodynamics? Should the cancel the show because of that? Why does the obvious danger of having a van full of zombies plowed into the base while also engaging in a gun battle have to be explained?

You don't have the slightest idea why I watch the show. You may have found creating your own reasons amusing but you are wrong and it makes it impossible to take you seriously.

Secondly, we were promised the Governor and Ninja chick were characters who were going to bring the show into an exciting new direction and help erase the stain of the endless and plodding season on the farm. Instead we got a girl with a sword who seems transported to this place from an entirely different comic book universe and a Governor and his men who are about as dangerous as a particularly overzealous community watch group. (But like I said their combined assault of endless terror did manage to kill ONE guy. So there is hope)

Those are not "small details" and thinking they are makes it impossible to take you seriously.

Lastly, you do realize its just a tv show? You are allowed to like it in spite of other people's opinions. Fretting about what other people say makes it impossible to take you seriously.



My post used "you" in the general sense. You are correct that I have no idea why you watch the show because I never really cared to think about it. I didn't read the whole thread so if I jumped in to some internet fight, it was unknown to me.  My intent was not to single you out. However, if you are guilty of what I outlined then... oh well you'll get over it and I'll stand by it .


I am mature enough to like something despite the opinions of other. I like what I like. Anyone else can hate it with a passion and I'd still be okay. I don't know how I can explain that any easier. I was just purely commenting on how lame it is to continually go into discussion threads on about anything you(in the general sense) don't enjoy and put so much effort into crapping all over the fact that its not perfect for whatever reason in their mind.

If you aren't going to take me seriously, at least not do it for the actual "small details" I listed in my post. I said nothing about the Governor and "Ninja Chick's" character development
 
2013-02-18 06:24:54 PM

jaybeezey: Popcorn Johnny: I am wondering where the Governor found the Aug.

They are pretty rare. There can't be many floating around Georgia.


Wiki lists it as the weapon of choice for Immigration and Customs Enforcement, so maybe he raided one of their armories.
 
2013-02-18 06:39:38 PM

Mind of the North Star:
My post used "you" in the general sense.


It is impossible to take "you" seriously.
 
2013-02-18 07:22:26 PM

Matt Foley: Personally, I tune into these threads every week to read the reviews of armchair West Point graduates.


I may not have graduated West Point, but I know you don't let the enemy take the high ground.
 
2013-02-18 07:35:11 PM

T.M.S.: Mind of the North Star:
My post used "you" in the general sense.

It is impossible to take "you" seriously.


media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-18 08:39:41 PM
It wouldn't make a very dramatic show, but by now shouldn't everybody have figured out to carry around an 8 foot long staff with a pointed end? Seems like that would be a pretty effective walker killer that doesn't run out of ammo
 
2013-02-18 08:40:02 PM
You said you didn't read the thread. You should.
 
2013-02-18 08:45:24 PM

Bhruic: Ugh. The whole Rick going crazy thing was annoying, but I figured I could power through it. But then the end... I haven't figured out if in this universe, people have some sort of bullet forcefield, or if walkers have some sort of magnet in their heads that draws bullets, but damn. The same people who could run around headshotting zombies across large distances can't hit regular people standing out in the open. Not even moving, or taking cover. Hell, even when they aren't even looking your direction. Absolute suspension of disbelief killer.

I'll give it another show, but if they are going to continue to completely change how the physics of the world works based on what they need for that particular episode, I'm going to be done. Just too frustrating to watch.


And yet the fact that there are zombies doesn't even begin to bother you. It's instead that they don't seem to shoot consistently that ruins your suspension of disbelief.
 
2013-02-18 09:08:10 PM

unregenerate: And yet the fact that there are zombies doesn't even begin to bother you. It's instead that they don't seem to shoot consistently that ruins your suspension of disbelief.


Fine, if you want to be picky about it, it ruined my secondary belief, as Tolkien would put it.  If you are going to craft a good show (or any other medium, but show for this example), you want it to be internally logically consistent.  So yes, it's easy to accept zombies because that's the setting of the world.  But what breaks the secondary belief is when activities occur that are not logically consistent.  If a group of people are crack shots at one point in time, and then extremely crappy shots at another, that's going to break secondary belief.
 
2013-02-18 09:25:03 PM

T.M.S.: You said you didn't read the thread. You should.


Any maybe you should stop watching the G.D. show if you hate it so much.  Unless you're a masochist, in which case hey that's cool man... but seriously, if you hate the show and only have negative things to say, why bother?  I know you've said on previous occasions its your duty as a zombie fiction fan or whatever... but you really just start coming across as the Simpsons Comic Book Guy after a certain point of the same schtick every thread, every week.

/to caveat, I respect you as a Hollywood effects insider and great source of insight in many other threads T.M.S.
//but on this particular subject, maybe its time to stop?
 
2013-02-18 09:31:21 PM

MagSeven: They were being shot at and Rick's group has almost zero experience shooting at people who shoot back.


People were shooting back during the Woodbury raid and Rick's people did OK. Killed six or so and only lost one.


unregenerate: Bhruic: Ugh. The whole Rick going crazy thing was annoying, but I figured I could power through it. But then the end... I haven't figured out if in this universe, people have some sort of bullet forcefield, or if walkers have some sort of magnet in their heads that draws bullets, but damn. The same people who could run around headshotting zombies across large distances can't hit regular people standing out in the open. Not even moving, or taking cover. Hell, even when they aren't even looking your direction. Absolute suspension of disbelief killer.

I'll give it another show, but if they are going to continue to completely change how the physics of the world works based on what they need for that particular episode, I'm going to be done. Just too frustrating to watch.

And yet the fact that there are zombies doesn't even begin to bother you. It's instead that they don't seem to shoot consistently that ruins your suspension of disbelief.


It's about internal consistency. I'm able to accept zombies because it's part of the premise.
 
2013-02-18 09:36:04 PM

T.M.S.: jrodr018: This is it? For three season all I have heard is "this show is terrible". Ten episodes into season 3, I still watch the show so that I can show Farkers how superior I am (my narrative and show exposition have even started to sound repetitive).
The shows biggest crime (other that the cliche "this show is a cliche") is me criticizing yet still watching the show.
Now I am wondering as a homeless person seeking to prove how superior I am for disliking yet watching this show, confirming how much of an a-hole I am.

Sorry I just noticed this post. It would be rude not to agnowlege.
I just wish it had a bit more wit considering how much work you put into it.  Its been up for hours now. Was it worth all the effort? Or are you now feeling sort of stupid for having gone to so much trouble whining about another persons opinion on a television show about zombies.

I truly am curious.


Yes, just as worthy as you posting critiques on shows you don't like. Is that worthy to you? I mean, you put so much effort into posting and now responding, must be cool being you.
 
2013-02-18 09:36:06 PM

fusillade762: MagSeven: They were being shot at and Rick's group has almost zero experience shooting at people who shoot back.

People were shooting back during the Woodbury raid and Rick's people did OK. Killed six or so and only lost one.


unregenerate: Bhruic: Ugh. The whole Rick going crazy thing was annoying, but I figured I could power through it. But then the end... I haven't figured out if in this universe, people have some sort of bullet forcefield, or if walkers have some sort of magnet in their heads that draws bullets, but damn. The same people who could run around headshotting zombies across large distances can't hit regular people standing out in the open. Not even moving, or taking cover. Hell, even when they aren't even looking your direction. Absolute suspension of disbelief killer.

I'll give it another show, but if they are going to continue to completely change how the physics of the world works based on what they need for that particular episode, I'm going to be done. Just too frustrating to watch.

And yet the fact that there are zombies doesn't even begin to bother you. It's instead that they don't seem to shoot consistently that ruins your suspension of disbelief.

It's about internal consistency. I'm able to accept zombies because it's part of the premise.


Barely shooting back if I remember correctly. I don't think the Gov's men started shooting back until well after the smokescreen. Also last time, Rick's group had the surprise element.
 
2013-02-18 09:44:31 PM

T.M.S.: Secondly, we were promised the Governor and Ninja chick were characters who were going to bring the show into an exciting new direction and help erase the stain of the endless and plodding season on the farm. Instead we got a girl with a sword who seems transported to this place from an entirely different comic book universe and a Governor and his men who are about as dangerous as a particularly overzealous community watch group. (But like I said their combined assault of endless terror did manage to kill ONE guy. So there is hope)


In all fairness, according to the rules of the show that's probably what they are, or at least should be.  That would also preclude them taking down a National Guard unit at the beginning of the season, but I suppose we could chalk that up to luck.

Besides farkers who read the comics, was there anyone else promising The Governor or Ninja chick were going to bring the show in an exciting new direction?  I haven't been following the press.

About the only good thing that's happened this season is that Lori is dead and Carl isn't a goddamn whiny baby anymore, but that's not a lot to carry a show.  And I completely agree that psycho Rick is just a way to fill time with false dramatics.  It's almost as annoying as the cliched gibbering woman in a stressful situation.  All you want to do is slap the person, and if they don't shape up, kill them.  I don't like wanting Rick dead, so they better have him get his shiat together soon.

My only real objection to the prison so far is that it's an easily fortified position to hold, but they didn't bother to do any work on it until right before mustache guy got shot in the head.  The writers easily could have worked out the dynamics of being trapped in a prison over the course of the season, but instead they're treating it like "Farm House II - Chain Link Fence Boogaloo."
 
2013-02-18 09:55:07 PM

Twist-42: Did anyone else notice when the tattoos are first shown, they are on the right side of his back, but as he walks away they are on the left?
I don't know if they were ever shown before so not sure where they belong.


Those are real tattoos, I'm pretty sure they didn't move.
 
2013-02-18 09:56:05 PM

Lsherm: The writers easily could have worked out the dynamics of being trapped in a prison over the course of the season, but instead they're treating it like "Farm House II - Chain Link Fence Boogaloo."


Lulz.
 
2013-02-18 10:19:44 PM
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2013-02-18 10:30:34 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Twist-42: Did anyone else notice when the tattoos are first shown, they are on the right side of his back, but as he walks away they are on the left?
I don't know if they were ever shown before so not sure where they belong.

Those are real tattoos, I'm pretty sure they didn't move.


Yeah. They reversed the shot when he was walking away by accident.
 
2013-02-18 10:43:47 PM

MagSeven: It's about internal consistency. I'm able to accept zombies because it's part of the premise.

Barely shooting back if I remember correctly. I don't think the Gov's men started shooting back until well after the smokescreen. Also last time, Rick's group had the surprise element.


Maybe the Governor's men are like reverse vampires? Their super commando powers are only active during the day.

A couple other stray thoughts:

How did the guy in the tower get into the compound? They should be looking for a hole cut in the fence. Also: I couldn't tell where he got shot but isn't he likely to Come Back?

The Governor's headshot on Axel is even more impressive now that I realize he was firing left-handed (looking back at other pics from earlier in the season it looks like he's right-handed). And he's lucky the Steyr Aug can be converted to left-handed firing or he'd be looking at a facefull of brass and probably a broken jaw from the charging handle.
 
2013-02-18 11:03:26 PM

unregenerate: And yet the fact that there are zombies doesn't even begin to bother you. It's instead that they don't seem to shoot consistently that ruins your suspension of disbelief.


A show/film/book must follow it's own internal logic.  The rules of this universe is that it's the real world that happens to have walking dead wandering around.  Within that framework, the zombies are perfectly logical.  Now, we could get into an argument that Darabont Era walkers operated by different rules than Mazzarra Era walkers, but as far as walkers themselves, they're just the conceit of the show.  Everything else - physics, chemistry, biology - needs to operate by standard rules within narrow limits of artistic freedom.  That's why when Herschel starts firing his unlimited ammo shotgun that he swiped from the Army of Darkness set, it detracts from the show.  You can still have drama without breaking the rules of the universe, it just requires the writers to be more careful with plot devices and character development.  If the writers want to get across that the Grimes Group is so used to dealing with walkers that they aren't prepared to deal with humans, they can't simply make the group suddenly stupid.  As someone mentioned above, when this scene happened in the comics, Rick's group decimated the Governor's forces because they were prepared and battle-hardened.  That's the group that was presented in the first episode of this season.  That's not the group that was attacked at the prison.
 
2013-02-18 11:20:00 PM

fusillade762: MagSeven: It's about internal consistency. I'm able to accept zombies because it's part of the premise.

Barely shooting back if I remember correctly. I don't think the Gov's men started shooting back until well after the smokescreen. Also last time, Rick's group had the surprise element.

Maybe the Governor's men are like reverse vampires? Their super commando powers are only active during the day.

A couple other stray thoughts:

How did the guy in the tower get into the compound? They should be looking for a hole cut in the fence. Also: I couldn't tell where he got shot but isn't he likely to Come Back?

The Governor's headshot on Axel is even more impressive now that I realize he was firing left-handed (looking back at other pics from earlier in the season it looks like he's right-handed). And he's lucky the Steyr Aug can be converted to left-handed firing or he'd be looking at a facefull of brass and probably a broken jaw from the charging handle.




That's a good question. My only theory is yours, that he cut a hole in the fence and snuck in or just climbed it. No one was really on watch and Michonne and Herschel in the yard were pretty preoccupied with watching crazy Rick. They should have had a "first person" view of him getting in though. That would clear up a potential plot hole And believe it or not, I'm pretty sure guard tower guy got conveniently hit in the head! The odds!
 
2013-02-18 11:20:37 PM
Rick is hallucinating again.  Guess that means it's time for him to take some more phone calls.

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2013-02-18 11:31:31 PM
Never mind my previous comment about the Steyr. Looks like it can be safely fired off-hand.
 
2013-02-19 03:12:36 AM

log_jammin: timujin: God I hate that trope so much, the one where only the bad guys can shoot straight.  How is it four people with as much experience shooting as these folks have by now couldn't knock off one guy standing out in the open in a tower?  Why couldn't Rick hit dude when he was using a scope?  How were four guys keeping six people in three different locations covered?

1. because they were also being shot at.

The bad guys were being shot at as well, and from more directions

2. while it's just a tv show, it's still slightly more realistic than call of duty.
In what way?

3. his scope isn't exactly a sniper scope. It's not made for long distance accuracy like a regular scope on a hunting rifle is. also see 1 and 2.
He was shooting at a target that was what, 300' away?

4. two of teh locations were in the same direction, one was just further away.
there was still fire coming from three different places, regardless of relative distance

5. (should have been one) the trope is that only the bad guys CAN'T shot straight. see every a-team episode ever made.
Both are tropes.  And the A-Team couldn't shoot straight either, apparently, they never actually hit anyone, just made their cars explode or lose control in some way guaranteed to make them flip over.

The Governor was firing from the hip and hitting a target about 500' away within a 2' cluster.  At the same time, people are shooting at him with scoped rifles and he's not even bothering to hide behind something and they don't even get close to him.  It's just poor writing.

/dammit, "cluster" isn't the word I'm looking for... the pattern of bullets in a target area... shiat.
 
2013-02-19 03:20:35 AM
Farking hell, it's a show about the dead coming back to life, stop taking it so farking seriously.
 
2013-02-19 03:39:45 AM

timujin: /dammit, "cluster" isn't the word I'm looking for... the pattern of bullets in a target area... shiat.


Grouping? Also remember the Gov had to shoot in this awkward manner because of his missing right eye:

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/my mistake earlier saying he shot left-handed
 
2013-02-19 03:46:37 AM

fusillade762: timujin: /dammit, "cluster" isn't the word I'm looking for... the pattern of bullets in a target area... shiat.

Grouping? Also remember the Gov had to shoot in this awkward manner because of his missing right eye:

[i.huffpost.com image 570x238]

/my mistake earlier saying he shot left-handed


Grouping, thanks.  And it wasn't just that, though, he ended by shooting from the hip and, if I remember correctly (and I've already deleted the episode) those three or four bullets ended up striking a wall about 500' away within about 2' of each other.

As to your point... why didn't he just switch to his left shoulder?
 
2013-02-19 04:29:55 AM

timujin: log_jammin: timujin: God I hate that trope so much, the one where only the bad guys can shoot straight.  How is it four people with as much experience shooting as these folks have by now couldn't knock off one guy standing out in the open in a tower?  Why couldn't Rick hit dude when he was using a scope?  How were four guys keeping six people in three different locations covered?

1. because they were also being shot at.
The bad guys were being shot at as well, and from more directions

2. while it's just a tv show, it's still slightly more realistic than call of duty.
In what way?

3. his scope isn't exactly a sniper scope. It's not made for long distance accuracy like a regular scope on a hunting rifle is. also see 1 and 2.
He was shooting at a target that was what, 300' away?

4. two of teh locations were in the same direction, one was just further away.
there was still fire coming from three different places, regardless of relative distance

5. (should have been one) the trope is that only the bad guys CAN'T shot straight. see every a-team episode ever made.
Both are tropes.  And the A-Team couldn't shoot straight either, apparently, they never actually hit anyone, just made their cars explode or lose control in some way guaranteed to make them flip over.

The Governor was firing from the hip and hitting a target about 500' away within a 2' cluster.  At the same time, people are shooting at him with scoped rifles and he's not even bothering to hide behind something and they don't even get close to him.  It's just poor writing.

/dammit, "cluster" isn't the word I'm looking for... the pattern of bullets in a target area... shiat.


That would be poor direction and not poor writing. If your points really held up.
 
2013-02-19 05:14:22 AM
This thread turned into a dueling hissy fit pretty quick.
 
2013-02-19 07:03:06 AM

timujin: fusillade762: timujin: /dammit, "cluster" isn't the word I'm looking for... the pattern of bullets in a target area... shiat.

Grouping? Also remember the Gov had to shoot in this awkward manner because of his missing right eye:

[i.huffpost.com image 570x238]

/my mistake earlier saying he shot left-handed

Grouping, thanks.  And it wasn't just that, though, he ended by shooting from the hip and, if I remember correctly (and I've already deleted the episode) those three or four bullets ended up striking a wall about 500' away within about 2' of each other.

As to your point... why didn't he just switch to his left shoulder?


I would imagine it's like trying to throw off-hand. Someone with rifle experience please correct me.
 
2013-02-19 10:32:09 AM

T.M.S.: Mind of the North Star:
My post used "you" in the general sense.

It is impossible to take "you" seriously.


Really? After reading this thread, I feel the exact opposite. "I just have to watch it"

No. No you don't. You ujust like to biatch about this particular show. Stop watching it, for chrissakes.

I respect your knowledge of the business and all, but this is unbecoming of you.
 
2013-02-19 11:29:44 AM

MagSeven: timujin: log_jammin: timujin: God I hate that trope so much, the one where only the bad guys can shoot straight.  How is it four people with as much experience shooting as these folks have by now couldn't knock off one guy standing out in the open in a tower?  Why couldn't Rick hit dude when he was using a scope?  How were four guys keeping six people in three different locations covered?

1. because they were also being shot at.
The bad guys were being shot at as well, and from more directions

2. while it's just a tv show, it's still slightly more realistic than call of duty.
In what way?

3. his scope isn't exactly a sniper scope. It's not made for long distance accuracy like a regular scope on a hunting rifle is. also see 1 and 2.
He was shooting at a target that was what, 300' away?

4. two of teh locations were in the same direction, one was just further away.
there was still fire coming from three different places, regardless of relative distance

5. (should have been one) the trope is that only the bad guys CAN'T shot straight. see every a-team episode ever made.
Both are tropes.  And the A-Team couldn't shoot straight either, apparently, they never actually hit anyone, just made their cars explode or lose control in some way guaranteed to make them flip over.

The Governor was firing from the hip and hitting a target about 500' away within a 2' cluster.  At the same time, people are shooting at him with scoped rifles and he's not even bothering to hide behind something and they don't even get close to him.  It's just poor writing.

/dammit, "cluster" isn't the word I'm looking for... the pattern of bullets in a target area... shiat.

That would be poor direction and not poor writing. If your points really held up.


Or even poor editing.  Point is, it's dumb.
 
2013-02-19 12:59:57 PM
People who have no problem suspending their disbelief about dead people walking around who only eat living people; and not each other should not be complaining about a gun battle that is only an action sequence and a plot device.
 
2013-02-19 01:06:23 PM

Crewmannumber6: It wouldn't make a very dramatic show, but by now shouldn't everybody have figured out to carry around an 8 foot long staff with a pointed end? Seems like that would be a pretty effective walker killer that doesn't run out of ammo


Because once they get inside the 8' reach you're hosed.  And if there are multiples, it makes it that much harder.

MagSeven: That's a good question. My only theory is yours, that he cut a hole in the fence and snuck in or just climbed it. No one was really on watch and Michonne and Herschel in the yard were pretty preoccupied with watching crazy Rick. They should have had a "first person" view of him getting in though. That would clear up a potential plot hole And believe it or not, I'm pretty sure guard tower guy got conveniently hit in the head! The odds!


If we're given a first person view of the incoming goon, then the shock of Axel taking a shot to the head is totally lost because we know the baddies are out there.  Not that we didn't expect them to show up at some point in time, but if we know that now is the time, then it's just a question of who gets the bullet.
 
2013-02-19 01:35:24 PM

NathanAllen: People who have no problem suspending their disbelief about dead people walking around who only eat living people; and not each other should not be complaining about a gun battle that is only an action sequence and a plot device.


Consistency within the rules of the story's universe is part of fiction, there's nothing wrong with questioning when that consistency fails.  Otherwise, everything should be a documentary.
 
2013-02-19 01:37:03 PM

BizarreMan: Crewmannumber6: It wouldn't make a very dramatic show, but by now shouldn't everybody have figured out to carry around an 8 foot long staff with a pointed end? Seems like that would be a pretty effective walker killer that doesn't run out of ammo

Because once they get inside the 8' reach you're hosed. And if there are multiples, it makes it that much harder.


True, but you'd think by this point that every single person still alive would know to carry some sort of melee weapon at all times, whether a hatchet, machete, crowbar or whatever.
 
2013-02-19 01:55:17 PM

fusillade762: timujin: fusillade762: timujin: /dammit, "cluster" isn't the word I'm looking for... the pattern of bullets in a target area... shiat.

Grouping? Also remember the Gov had to shoot in this awkward manner because of his missing right eye:

[i.huffpost.com image 570x238]

/my mistake earlier saying he shot left-handed

Grouping, thanks.  And it wasn't just that, though, he ended by shooting from the hip and, if I remember correctly (and I've already deleted the episode) those three or four bullets ended up striking a wall about 500' away within about 2' of each other.

As to your point... why didn't he just switch to his left shoulder?

I would imagine it's like trying to throw off-hand. Someone with rifle experience please correct me.


It's awkward, but you can get used to it. Back when I was a much younger Ctrl-Alt-Del, one of my squadmates and I decided that since our spiffy new M-16A2s came with built-in brass deflectors, it would be cool to try qualifying shooting lefty. We both managed, but it is a challenge.

It's nowhere near as bad as throwing off hand
 
2013-02-19 02:07:10 PM

fusillade762: How did the guy in the tower get into the compound? They should be looking for a hole cut in the fence. Also: I couldn't tell where he got shot but isn't he likely to Come Back?


Looked like a forehead shot to me...
 
2013-02-19 02:19:33 PM

timujin: MagSeven: timujin: log_jammin: timujin: God I hate that trope so much, the one where only the bad guys can shoot straight.  How is it four people with as much experience shooting as these folks have by now couldn't knock off one guy standing out in the open in a tower?  Why couldn't Rick hit dude when he was using a scope?  How were four guys keeping six people in three different locations covered?

1. because they were also being shot at.
The bad guys were being shot at as well, and from more directions

2. while it's just a tv show, it's still slightly more realistic than call of duty.
In what way?

3. his scope isn't exactly a sniper scope. It's not made for long distance accuracy like a regular scope on a hunting rifle is. also see 1 and 2.
He was shooting at a target that was what, 300' away?

4. two of teh locations were in the same direction, one was just further away.
there was still fire coming from three different places, regardless of relative distance

5. (should have been one) the trope is that only the bad guys CAN'T shot straight. see every a-team episode ever made.
Both are tropes.  And the A-Team couldn't shoot straight either, apparently, they never actually hit anyone, just made their cars explode or lose control in some way guaranteed to make them flip over.

The Governor was firing from the hip and hitting a target about 500' away within a 2' cluster.  At the same time, people are shooting at him with scoped rifles and he's not even bothering to hide behind something and they don't even get close to him.  It's just poor writing.

/dammit, "cluster" isn't the word I'm looking for... the pattern of bullets in a target area... shiat.

That would be poor direction and not poor writing. If your points really held up.

Or even poor editing.  Point is, it's dumb.


You aren't actually required to watch it. When you have to stretch to criticize a movie or show it's typically time you either relax and enjoy it or find something else that you can enjoy. Complaining about the staging of a gunfight in a TV show is almost as bad as getting upset about the Tyrannosaur paddock scene geography in Jurassic Park.

/That goes for all the wheelie-chair critics out there
 
2013-02-19 02:38:23 PM
NathanAllen: People who have no problem suspending their disbelief about dead people walking around who only eat living people; and not each other should not be complaining about a gun battle that is only an action sequence and a plot device.

Your understanding of the concepts willing suspension of disbelief and internal consistency seems on par with . Except for the idea that a filing cabinet was going to stop rifle rounds - which I'm willing to chalk up to simple ignorance and overlook -- I didn't have as much of a problem with this episodes "discrepancies" as some others here. But that doesn't change the fact that internal consistency is absolutely vital for a story, regardless of how fantastic that story may be. To quote a better writer than I:

"Readers are able and willing to accept stories in which the fantastical becomes real. Ghosts, magic, vampires, minotaurs, dragons, hobbits, elves, Wookiees - bring it on. But what we cannot abide are stories in which the real becomes unreal.

When young Lucy Pevensie stumbles through a magical wardrobe into an enchanted world of fauns and talking beasts, we readers gladly follow along on her journey. Those fantastic elements of the story don't throw us off. But if, at any point, Lucy Pevensie were to start acting in a way that no young English girl from the 1940s would act, that would cause us as readers to revoke our willing suspension of disbelief. Human readers require human characters to behave in a way that is recognizably human. Readers are not startled at the sight of Tumnus the faun and readers are not shocked when Mrs. Beaver starts to talk. But if Lucy herself had not been startled and shocked by those things, we would have stopped reading right there."


The same is true for physics. We can accept that in a story where physics works differently, anything might be possible - the ability to jump from the top of a building, or to dodge bullets in slow-time are part of what make the Matrix a great movie. But in a story that is set in what is ostensibly the "real" world, we expect things to work in the the way they actually do work in real life.

I disagree with Mentat, but unlike you, I'm at least able to understand what he's saying. With the exception of the zombification -- which is the whole damned premise of the show -- TWD is ostensibly set in the real world. As a result, things that are not directly related to the fantasy premise should work the way they actually do work in the real world - objects fall when they are dropped, people act like actual people, and a team of battle hardened expert shots don't suddenly turn into a bunch of Can't Shoot Losers when it's convenient for the writers.

If Carol has suddenly grown wings and flown up to kill that guy in the tower, would you be here giving us a condescending post about how "People who have no problem suspending their disbelief about dead people walking around who only eat living people; and not each other should not be complaining about characters growing wings and flying" ?
 
2013-02-19 03:34:13 PM

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: timujin: MagSeven: timujin: log_jammin: timujin: God I hate that trope so much, the one where only the bad guys can shoot straight.  How is it four people with as much experience shooting as these folks have by now couldn't knock off one guy standing out in the open in a tower?  Why couldn't Rick hit dude when he was using a scope?  How were four guys keeping six people in three different locations covered?

1. because they were also being shot at.
The bad guys were being shot at as well, and from more directions

2. while it's just a tv show, it's still slightly more realistic than call of duty.
In what way?

3. his scope isn't exactly a sniper scope. It's not made for long distance accuracy like a regular scope on a hunting rifle is. also see 1 and 2.
He was shooting at a target that was what, 300' away?

4. two of teh locations were in the same direction, one was just further away.
there was still fire coming from three different places, regardless of relative distance

5. (should have been one) the trope is that only the bad guys CAN'T shot straight. see every a-team episode ever made.
Both are tropes.  And the A-Team couldn't shoot straight either, apparently, they never actually hit anyone, just made their cars explode or lose control in some way guaranteed to make them flip over.

The Governor was firing from the hip and hitting a target about 500' away within a 2' cluster.  At the same time, people are shooting at him with scoped rifles and he's not even bothering to hide behind something and they don't even get close to him.  It's just poor writing.

/dammit, "cluster" isn't the word I'm looking for... the pattern of bullets in a target area... shiat.

That would be poor direction and not poor writing. If your points really held up.

Or even poor editing.  Point is, it's dumb.

You aren't actually required to watch it. When you have to stretch to criticize a movie or show it's typically time you either relax and enjoy it or find something else that you can ...


So... in your world the only way someone can do something is to either sit back and accept everything at face value, good or bad, or not do it at all? You must be a lot of fun at parties.
 
2013-02-19 03:57:41 PM

timujin: GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: timujin: MagSeven: timujin: log_jammin: timujin: God I hate that trope so much, the one where only the bad guys can shoot straight.  How is it four people with as much experience shooting as these folks have by now couldn't knock off one guy standing out in the open in a tower?  Why couldn't Rick hit dude when he was using a scope?  How were four guys keeping six people in three different locations covered?

1. because they were also being shot at.
The bad guys were being shot at as well, and from more directions

2. while it's just a tv show, it's still slightly more realistic than call of duty.
In what way?

3. his scope isn't exactly a sniper scope. It's not made for long distance accuracy like a regular scope on a hunting rifle is. also see 1 and 2.
He was shooting at a target that was what, 300' away?

4. two of teh locations were in the same direction, one was just further away.
there was still fire coming from three different places, regardless of relative distance

5. (should have been one) the trope is that only the bad guys CAN'T shot straight. see every a-team episode ever made.
Both are tropes.  And the A-Team couldn't shoot straight either, apparently, they never actually hit anyone, just made their cars explode or lose control in some way guaranteed to make them flip over.

The Governor was firing from the hip and hitting a target about 500' away within a 2' cluster.  At the same time, people are shooting at him with scoped rifles and he's not even bothering to hide behind something and they don't even get close to him.  It's just poor writing.

/dammit, "cluster" isn't the word I'm looking for... the pattern of bullets in a target area... shiat.

That would be poor direction and not poor writing. If your points really held up.

Or even poor editing.  Point is, it's dumb.

You aren't actually required to watch it. When you have to stretch to criticize a movie or show it's typically time you either relax and enjoy it ...


Actually, he probably is, because the instant he finds anything worth criticizing, he finds something else to do
 
2013-02-19 04:17:45 PM

Ctrl-Alt-Del: timujin: GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: timujin: MagSeven: timujin: log_jammin: timujin: blah blah blah


Actually, he probably is, because the instant he finds anything worth criticizing, he finds something else to do

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/leaves to a different thread
 
2013-02-19 07:57:00 PM

Mad_Radhu: Popcorn Johnny: Why is the dude from True Blood on here?

Because he is awesome.

/No, I don't have a mancrush on him AT ALL.


I totally have a hetero man crush on Alcide.
 
2013-02-19 09:04:12 PM

Ctrl-Alt-Del: If Carol has suddenly grown wings and flown up to kill that guy in the tower, would you be here giving us a condescending post about how "People who have no problem suspending their disbelief about dead people walking around who only eat living people; and not each other should not be complaining about characters growing wings and flying" ?


When I first read that I thought you were talking about Carl, and I was going to point out it's awfully hard to fly while you're in the house.
 
2013-02-20 12:00:30 AM
So, to talk about something other than the debate over the shoot-out - who things Rick is gonna go ape shiat on the Governor next week?
 
2013-02-20 12:34:37 AM

Kentucky Fried Children: So, to talk about something other than the debate over the shoot-out - who things Rick is gonna go ape shiat on the Governor next week?


Dunno, do you think what happened has knocked him back at least close to reality?  I wouldn't be surprised if the Governor showed and Rick just walked off stage left, mumbling about Lori.  Now Glenn, on the other hand, I could see him getting a bit crazy.  Bit I'm really hoping it's Maggie that sticks a gun up the Governor's ass and pulls the farking trigger until it goes *click*.  Anything to get her out of that funk she's in.
 
2013-02-20 04:55:37 AM

timujin: Kentucky Fried Children: So, to talk about something other than the debate over the shoot-out - who things Rick is gonna go ape shiat on the Governor next week?

Dunno, do you think what happened has knocked him back at least close to reality?  I wouldn't be surprised if the Governor showed and Rick just walked off stage left, mumbling about Lori.  Now Glenn, on the other hand, I could see him getting a bit crazy.  Bit I'm really hoping it's Maggie that sticks a gun up the Governor's ass and pulls the farking trigger until it goes *click*.  Anything to get her out of that funk she's in.


Yea, I know way late but I watch the show on dvr etc, but I think this last episode is the reconstituting of the group, it fragmented likes Ricks mind and now it's pulling together. I think the final showdown is gonna take a while but it should be awesome and this is just my guess as Ricks mind heal look for the Governor to get crazier.
 
2013-02-20 05:36:15 AM

Kentucky Fried Children: So, to talk about something other than the debate over the shoot-out - who things Rick is gonna go ape shiat on the Governor next week?


I think crazy Rick is just a plot device to delay the final confrontation between the two groups. What does Woodbury have? Maybe 20 people (episode before this one, Milton said everyone is in the middle of town demanding to see you, I remember maybe 20 being there). Now most of these people have been lazy and safe and sound. Our guys have been out in the shiat and between Daryl, Merle, Michonne, Glenn, Rick and Carl "fark you son, you stay in the motherfarkin house" Grimes ( also Tyreese's group if that ever happens as well) I think our guys can take them pretty easy if they abandoned their humanity and waged a full assault with the element of surprise against Woodbury. That won't happen of course because they are still the "good guys", but the Woodbury threat doesn't seem as dire and overwhelming as it did in the comics. Hopefully the show amps it up a bit more....
 
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