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(Philly.com)   The ocean teems with fascinating things. Fish, crabs, shells, 1850s locomotives, barnacles...wait, what?   (philly.com) divider line 54
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2013-02-17 09:37:44 AM
Paging Clive Cussler.. Mr Cussler to the white courtesy phone please
 
2013-02-17 10:23:46 AM
i22.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-17 10:33:38 AM
How cool!!  I want to say I've heard about these trains before...maybe in an archaeology magazine?   Anyway, wish there were better pictures in the article.


/love me some shipwrecks
//yes, yes, I know...not a shipwreck
 
2013-02-17 10:47:52 AM

raerae1980: //yes, yes, I know...not a shipwreck


MIght have been... 1850's wooden ships would dissolve long before a steam engine would. They said visibility was poor maybe they missed the signs of the ship.
 
2013-02-17 11:46:53 AM
Didn't they cover these a few years ago on that diving reality show on Discovery?

/maybe it was History Channel
//they all look alike these days
 
2013-02-17 11:48:30 AM

Majick Thise: raerae1980: //yes, yes, I know...not a shipwreck

MIght have been... 1850's wooden ships would dissolve long before a steam engine would. They said visibility was poor maybe they missed the signs of the ship.


Kinda hard to imagine how the fark else it would have gotten there.
 
2013-02-17 12:02:26 PM

nekom: Majick Thise: raerae1980: //yes, yes, I know...not a shipwreck

MIght have been... 1850's wooden ships would dissolve long before a steam engine would. They said visibility was poor maybe they missed the signs of the ship.

Kinda hard to imagine how the fark else it would have gotten there.



The article metions a few other ways:  "They may have been dropped there, probably in order to shed weight from a vessel that was stricken in foul weather, or they might have gone over accidentally,"
 
2013-02-17 12:32:50 PM
they were put there by god to test my faith
 
2013-02-17 12:33:27 PM
Don't forget about that stupid Sphere thing that makes your mind omnipotent....
 
2013-02-17 12:38:46 PM

Majick Thise: raerae1980: //yes, yes, I know...not a shipwreck

MIght have been... 1850's wooden ships would dissolve long before a steam engine would. They said visibility was poor maybe they missed the signs of the ship.


   and maybe 20 or so mob guys...
 
2013-02-17 12:39:53 PM
Am I going to post . . .

" I think I can, I think I can . . ."
 
2013-02-17 12:41:03 PM
Nothing To See Here: Am I going to post . . .

" I think sink I can, I think sink I can . . ."
 
2013-02-17 12:44:18 PM

Majick Thise: Paging Clive Cussler.. Mr Cussler to the white courtesy phone please


done in o e
 
2013-02-17 12:48:10 PM
Someone make a SeaQuest reference
 
2013-02-17 12:55:56 PM
A long time ago, things fell in the ocean. Wow.
 
2013-02-17 12:59:00 PM
  the little engine that could not is down there...
 
2013-02-17 12:59:33 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Didn't they cover these a few years ago on that diving reality show on Discovery?

/maybe it was History Channel
//they all look alike these days


I saw it too.  Good episode.  They apparently just spotted the odd note on a nautical chart that two railroad engines were on the bottom and decided to go look.
 
2013-02-17 01:00:55 PM

nekom: Majick Thise: raerae1980: //yes, yes, I know...not a shipwreck

MIght have been... 1850's wooden ships would dissolve long before a steam engine would. They said visibility was poor maybe they missed the signs of the ship.

Kinda hard to imagine how the fark else it would have gotten there.


Ancient astronauts no doubt.
 
2013-02-17 01:01:19 PM
The Cimarron River in Oklahoma has eaten at least 2 locomotives over the years.  Funny about that river, it is shallow and sandy and often looks like there's no water flowing, but there is.  It's just flowing through the sand.  The lost locomotives that I'm aware of just continued sinking in the sand until buried.
 
2013-02-17 01:04:01 PM
 
2013-02-17 01:05:03 PM

raerae1980: nekom: Majick Thise: raerae1980: //yes, yes, I know...not a shipwreck

MIght have been... 1850's wooden ships would dissolve long before a steam engine would. They said visibility was poor maybe they missed the signs of the ship.

Kinda hard to imagine how the fark else it would have gotten there.


The article metions a few other ways:  "They may have been dropped there, probably in order to shed weight from a vessel that was stricken in foul weather, or they might have gone over accidentally,"


Dammit Roy, how'd you lose this job?
 
2013-02-17 01:06:56 PM
Also teeming with crabs. Not sure about the locomotive being down there...

assets.nydailynews.com
 
2013-02-17 01:10:08 PM

danielscissorhands: Also teeming with crabs. Not sure about the locomotive being down there...


Oh I suspect she's had her share of trains run on her.
 
2013-02-17 01:15:02 PM

danielscissorhands: Also teeming with crabs. Not sure about the locomotive being down there...

[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x700]


    I believe she's fixin' to lick that stuff off under her eye...
 
2013-02-17 01:32:14 PM

danielscissorhands: Also teeming with crabs. Not sure about the locomotive being down there...

[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x700]



   This is from her promotional tour supporting her new TV show......."Touched by a Hell's Angel".
 
2013-02-17 01:33:48 PM
Very interesting.
 
2013-02-17 01:35:00 PM

JohnAnnArbor:

I saw it too.  Good episode.  They apparently just spotted the odd note on a nautical chart that two railroad engines were on the bottoms and decided to go look.

Those shows always try to make that stuff seem like obscure or recent discoveries but the locomotives are a popular dive destination. I have been there many times over the years. It's not a difficult dive by local standards but out of the range of the typical diver.

Trophy hunting can get pretty intense. i know a guy with an anti aircraft gun from a WWII wreck in his backyard. But i doubt these dudes ccouldaqbring up two locomotives.


"We had the option of bringing them up, leaving them on the bottom, or bringing up of parts of them," he said. "We've been recovering pieces, examining them and trying to answer lingering questions."


Majick Thise: raerae1980: //yes, yes, I know...not a shipwreck

MIght have been... 1850's wooden ships would dissolve long before a steam engine would. They said visibility was poor maybe they missed the signs of the ship.

 
2013-02-17 01:35:35 PM
images.thetruthaboutcars.com

We all know boats are full of crap.
 
2013-02-17 01:36:50 PM

Majick Thise: raerae1980: //yes, yes, I know...not a shipwreck

MIght have been... 1850's wooden ships would dissolve long before a steam engine would. They said visibility was poor maybe they missed the signs of the ship.


Visibility is around 15 on a good day. All the local sites have been carefully surveyed. If there were signs of a ship it would be well known.
 
2013-02-17 01:41:15 PM

raerae1980: The article metions a few other ways:  "They may have been dropped there, probably in order to shed weight from a vessel that was stricken in foul weather, or they might have gone over accidentally,"


"I thought YOU fastened down the locomotives!"
 
2013-02-17 01:58:39 PM
sounds like someone claimed the vehicles were stolen and had to hide them somewhere.
 
2013-02-17 02:00:27 PM

RatOmeter: There's a steam engine under there somewhere:

http://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=35.951933,-97.91433&spn=0.001622 ,0 .002331&sll=36.168923,-98.448486&sspn=2.332485,3.488159&t=h&z=19


Drove on that bridge last Friday, interesting.
 
2013-02-17 02:05:49 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Didn't they cover these a few years ago on that diving reality show on Discovery?

/maybe it was History Channel
//they all look alike these days


I thought so too. Seems there were a couple of locomotives being shipped by barge, a storm broke out, some mooring lines snapped, and over the side they went.
 
2013-02-17 02:14:32 PM

Champion of the Sun: Someone make a SeaQuest reference


(dolphin chatter)
 
2013-02-17 02:15:06 PM
Back in the good ol' days they used to take a barge out into the middle of Lake Michigan and dump electronics.
 
2013-02-17 02:15:57 PM
PS:

Of course if you want to talk about something REALLY kinda freaky, there's the bow of the WWII ship (USS Pittsburgh  I think? I may be wrong) that was discovered. Researchers identified the wreck by it's markings, but when they got home to do research on the ship, they discovered that it was sold for scrap decades ago.

Now, how could a shipwreck have been decommissioned & scrapped if it was found lying at the bottom of the ocean since WWII?
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During the war, her bow was torn loose in a typhoon, but she managed to limp back to port and have a new bow fitted. During the remainder of her career, she was referred to as "the longest ship in the world because of the distance between her stern and her original bow.
 
2013-02-17 02:16:11 PM

danielscissorhands: Also teeming with crabs. Not sure about the locomotive being down there...


LEAVE KE$HA ALONE
 
2013-02-17 02:21:52 PM

TV's Vinnie: PS:

Of course if you want to talk about something REALLY kinda freaky, there's the bow of the WWII ship (USS Pittsburgh  I think? I may be wrong) that was discovered. Researchers identified the wreck by it's markings, but when they got home to do research on the ship, they discovered that it was sold for scrap decades ago.

Now, how could a shipwreck have been decommissioned & scrapped if it was found lying at the bottom of the ocean since WWII?
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During the war, her bow was torn loose in a typhoon, but she managed to limp back to port and have a new bow fitted. During the remainder of her career, she was referred to as "the longest ship in the world because of the distance between her stern and her original bow.


Wow, nice job making me all intrigued and interested with a mystery tale and then totally rendering the whole thing a stupid non-story. Sure glad I learned about that ship whose front came off but it didn't sink and I forget its name.
 
2013-02-17 02:34:48 PM
If they were found off the coast of SC, I would've guessed they were the first two submarine attempts by the confederates.
 
2013-02-17 03:07:12 PM

TV's Vinnie: PS:

 her bow was torn loose in a typhoon, but she managed to limp back to port and have a new bow fitted.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-QNAwUdHUQ

the front fell off?
 
2013-02-17 03:07:16 PM
You guy just don't recognize raising sea levels when they are obvious to anyone who has half a brain.
 
2013-02-17 03:07:47 PM
That's nothing.  When they built the Empire State Building, they had to demolish the old Waldorf-Astoria Hotel.  With nothing else to do with it, they took tons of granite cladding out and dumped it in the Atlantic.

So there's an entire high-rise hotel off of New York Harbor!
 
2013-02-17 03:14:55 PM

SpdrJay: Don't forget about that stupid Sphere thing that makes your mind omnipotent....


I lol'd.
/the book was better
 
2013-02-17 03:25:13 PM

danielscissorhands: Also teeming with crabs. Not sure about the locomotive being down there...

[assets.nydailynews.com image 635x700]


...something something about her caboose something something....

/ Cant get it together today...
 
2013-02-17 03:26:14 PM
Once while diving off the coast of Delaware, I found a partially buried metallic object about 120 feet down.  I was able to make out some markings but they weren't any alphabet I recognized at the time.  Anyway, long story short it turned out to be some kind of space ship and since I raised it 17 years ago, I've been able to restore it and take it out on some short flights.  It's pretty cool if you're into space travel.  I haven't taken it into the Mesosphere yet because I don't really trust the shields enough.
 
2013-02-17 03:31:26 PM
Sandecker has just given Dirk and Al the greenlight on this project.
 
2013-02-17 03:54:43 PM

ransack.: Wow, nice job making me all intrigued and interested with a mystery tale and then totally rendering the whole thing a stupid non-story. Sure glad I learned about that ship whose front came off but it didn't sink and I forget its name.


memeorama.com
 
2013-02-17 04:01:53 PM

Dwight_Yeast: That's nothing.  When they built the Empire State Building, they had to demolish the old Waldorf-Astoria Hotel.  With nothing else to do with it, they took tons of granite cladding out and dumped it in the Atlantic.

So there's an entire high-rise hotel off of New York Harbor!


Lets starts renting out rooms we can advertise in room running water.
 
2013-02-17 04:03:38 PM

skylabdown: Once while diving off the coast of Delaware, I found a partially buried metallic object about 120 feet down.  I was able to make out some markings but they weren't any alphabet I recognized at the time.  Anyway, long story short it turned out to be some kind of space ship and since I raised it 17 years ago, I've been able to restore it and take it out on some short flights.  It's pretty cool if you're into space travel.  I haven't taken it into the Mesosphere yet because I don't really trust the shields enough.


Pfff...get back to me when you're flying past Jupiter.
 
2013-02-17 05:10:44 PM
Underwater train?
s4.postimage.org
 
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