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(Sun Sentinel)   Driving recklessly at 100mph, crashing into a Mitsubishi Galant, killing one woman, injuring another, and sending a child through a windshield? You better believe that's a prison sentence--wait, you're a state trooper? Charges dismissed   (sun-sentinel.com ) divider line
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2013-02-17 12:29:25 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: A cop got some traffic tickets dismissed? Oh the outrage. A cop getting a traffic citation dismissed is a perk of the job. Besides, I bet there isn't a person in here that hasn't been given a break by an officer.


That sonic boom I just heard was the point sailing over your head.

People died.
 
2013-02-17 12:30:48 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: A cop got some traffic tickets dismissed? Oh the outrage. A cop getting a traffic citation dismissed is a perk of the job. Besides, I bet there isn't a person in here that hasn't been given a break by an officer.


He killed somebody you assh*le.  This isn't "getting tickets dismissed".
 
2013-02-17 12:31:13 PM  
reillan:
Yeah, there shoulda been some criminal negligence here... I hope the dead woman's family sues the state big...

Unfortunately in many states (can't speak for Florida) damages in lawsuits against the state are statutorily limited, in some cases to as little as one million.  The idea being that the taxpayers weren't at fault.  And I don't think a suit against the trooper personally would be allowed to proceed.

Oh, and when they say the commander was fired, they usually mean transferred to another law enforcement organization after an appropriate cooling off period.
 
2013-02-17 12:31:15 PM  

King Something: How is this any different than any other state in America?

 
2013-02-17 12:31:20 PM  
I can't believe there are people in this thread defending the officer.

What he did was criminally negligent.  He deserves some amount of jail time (and the cops covering up for him deserve a LOT of jail time).
 
2013-02-17 12:31:32 PM  

Farkage: Popcorn Johnny: A cop got some traffic tickets dismissed? Oh the outrage. A cop getting a traffic citation dismissed is a perk of the job. Besides, I bet there isn't a person in here that hasn't been given a break by an officer.

He killed somebody you assh*le.  This isn't "getting tickets dismissed".


Now now, he's just trolling and got both of us to bite.

Just ignore him.
 
2013-02-17 12:32:39 PM  
and yall keep voting Democrat...


Congradulations to Judge Kathy Garner
bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com
 
2013-02-17 12:33:27 PM  

Kiwimann: I can't believe there are people in this thread defending the officer.

What he did was criminally negligent.  He deserves some amount of jail time (and the cops covering up for him deserve a LOT of jail time).


Except that nothing will change and we all know that. Short of an American "Bastille Day" or some equivalent large-scale rioting, nothing short of the bankers, cops, politicians, etc swinging from overpasses and lamp posts would change anything.
 
2013-02-17 12:33:39 PM  

pxlboy: Farkage: Popcorn Johnny: A cop got some traffic tickets dismissed? Oh the outrage. A cop getting a traffic citation dismissed is a perk of the job. Besides, I bet there isn't a person in here that hasn't been given a break by an officer.

He killed somebody you assh*le.  This isn't "getting tickets dismissed".

Now now, he's just trolling and got both of us to bite.

Just ignore him.


You're right.  Maybe when that exact same scenario happens to his mother/sister, etc. we can return the favor.
 
2013-02-17 12:33:58 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: A cop got some traffic tickets dismissed? Oh the outrage. A cop getting a traffic citation dismissed is a perk of the job. Besides, I bet there isn't a person in here that hasn't been given a break by an officer.


Yeah I remember that time I killed a guy.  The cop made me pour out my beer and go home.


Speeding cop almost took out my sister in '99 or so.  He ran a red light from the left turn lane doing 65, nailed my car right in driver's side tire.
 
2013-02-17 12:34:01 PM  

liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.

She was 12.

My point stands.  A properly restrained ANYTHING doesn't go flying out the car.

Seat belts aren't really designed for your average 12 yr old. There is a chance she was wearing one, regardless of her wearing one he still killed the driver and deserves to go to jail.


Oh please. Not designed for an average 12 year old.  Poor argument.

Cop is at fault for accident.  Parents at fault for unrestrained kid.
 
2013-02-17 12:34:59 PM  

ultraholland: Medic Zero: When are we going to stop letting the cops be above the law?

you're obviously not a Steven Seagal fan.


Haha! Nice one!
 
2013-02-17 12:35:34 PM  

Farkage: He killed somebody you assh*le.  This isn't "getting tickets dismissed".


Great, I'm dealing with a name caller.

This was about some traffic citations, not the person who was killed. There was an investigation and no charges were filed. The officer was doing his farking job and there was a tragic accident and he fact that somebody died is irreverent to these tickets being dismissed.

Continue your immature rant against cops now.
 
2013-02-17 12:35:52 PM  
clane: and yall keep voting Democrat...

Well, this certainly added nothing of value to the internet. Good jorb!
 
2013-02-17 12:36:59 PM  

Spanky McStupid: Looks like FHP has license to kill.  The tag has never been more appropriate.


Police don't have to worry about the legality of their actions.

I bet you a nickel, some politician tries to make getting in the way of speeding off duty officers a crime.
 
2013-02-17 12:37:02 PM  

clane: and yall keep voting Democrat...


Congradulations to Judge Kathy Garner
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Yes, clearly this was political bias in action.

//WTFisWrongWithYou
 
2013-02-17 12:37:10 PM  

Theaetetus: Medic Zero: MythDragon: Surprised the cop then didn't pull him self out of the wreck of his car and start issuing tickets to the dying driver.

Pretty much this.

When are we going to stop letting the cops be above the law?


[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]
Proud.



Is this a new "thing"? Instead of a thread being "Godwinned", it's now "Dornered"?

/just curious
 
2013-02-17 12:37:24 PM  
Popcorn Johnny: The officer was doing his farking job

So were the Nazis. Welp, you saw it here first: ol' Popcorn Johnny is a Nazi supporter.
 
2013-02-17 12:37:38 PM  
Where Chris Dorner when we need him.
 
2013-02-17 12:37:46 PM  

Farkage: Popcorn Johnny: A cop got some traffic tickets dismissed? Oh the outrage. A cop getting a traffic citation dismissed is a perk of the job. Besides, I bet there isn't a person in here that hasn't been given a break by an officer.

He killed somebody you assh*le.  This isn't "getting tickets dismissed".


you hadn't read any of pop0corn johnny's replies in the dorner threads.  dude has superglued himself to cop nutsack so tightly,  cruiser twelve would tell him to stand down.
 
2013-02-17 12:38:35 PM  

andyfromfl: Koodz: I was hoping this was going to be a clear-cut case of the cop just joyriding and engaging in cop antics, because I tend to be on the anti-cop side.  But responding to an emergency call?  I don't know.  We laugh about rocks being thrown off an overpass, but a brick thrown from an overpass onto a driver can easily kill everybody in the car.  It was a legitimate emergency call.  There's no real civilian analogue for this kind of thing, so I can't make a fair comparison and say that if I did the same thing I would deserve prison.  There's no justification for me to be in that situation.  There ARE reasons for a cop to be driving somewhere fast.

He should have had his lights on.  He should have been slower.  Of course having his lights on would have had no effect on what happened.  I think firing him is just about enough in this case.

What you think is irrelevant. Firing him is not enough- it's not up for debate. He caused the death of a person while not executing his duties as has been determined the best way. Jail is enough. You won't be arguing against that further.


Well, goddamn, kid. May I comment on other threads or should I get you to sign my permission slip?

/suck me off
 
2013-02-17 12:39:44 PM  

zabadu: liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.

She was 12.

My point stands.  A properly restrained ANYTHING doesn't go flying out the car.

Seat belts aren't really designed for your average 12 yr old. There is a chance she was wearing one, regardless of her wearing one he still killed the driver and deserves to go to jail.

Oh please. Not designed for an average 12 year old.  Poor argument.

Cop is at fault for accident.  Parents at fault for unrestrained kid.


People just can't comprehend that point.
 
2013-02-17 12:40:15 PM  
I'm just stunned that so many people think cops are above being held accountable for taking a life. He didn't even have charges filed against him so that a judge or jury could at least hear the case and pass judgment.

Even if they fired all the cops involved, the culture they were in remains in place. The news cops hired to replace them would just learn the bad habits.
 
2013-02-17 12:40:34 PM  

Koodz: I think firing him is just about enough in this case.


A lot of murderers have that same sentiment.
 
2013-02-17 12:41:12 PM  

ZAZ: . Fire 10% of the officers in each of the involved forces.


Defenestration?
runs
 
2013-02-17 12:41:18 PM  
This thread is full retard times ten...
 
2013-02-17 12:42:49 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Farkage: He killed somebody you assh*le.  This isn't "getting tickets dismissed".

Great, I'm dealing with a name caller.

This was about some traffic citations, not the person who was killed. There was an investigation and no charges were filed. The officer was doing his farking job and there was a tragic accident and he fact that somebody died is irreverent to these tickets being dismissed.

Continue your immature rant against cops now.


Oh, I'm so sorry I insulted your poor sensitive little head.  You're absolutely right.  Police should be able to do anything at all that they want and behave in as reckless manner as they feel like while doing as much collateral damage to the rest of us as possible because they "are just doing their jobs".
Let me ask you something...how many cops do you know?  How many have you worked with on a personal level?  That's an honest question.
I've worked on a 1 to 1 level with over 50 in my previous career and I can tell you as a matter of fact over 90% of them have said "I can do anything I want, I'm a cop.  They will always take my word over anyone else in court." to me at least once, so you just go ahead and keep licking those boots nice and clean there buddy.  You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
 
2013-02-17 12:43:00 PM  

Koodz: Well, goddamn, kid. May I comment on other threads or should I get you to sign my permission slip?


Maybe Fark does need a posting buddy system like that.  I'll have someone to keep me out of tipping threads, and they can assign me a cyclist or something.
 
2013-02-17 12:43:09 PM  
jeffowl:

Unfortunately in many states (can't speak for Florida) damages in lawsuits against the state are statutorily limited, in some cases to as little as one million.  The idea being that the taxpayers weren't at fault.  And I don't think a suit against the trooper personally would be allowed to proceed.

Oh, and when they say the commander was fired, they usually mean transferred to another law enforcement organization after an appropriate cooling off period.


It is actually worse than I thought in Florida...  Title XLV chapter 768.28
"Neither the state nor its agencies or subdivisions shall be liable to pay a claim or a judgment by any one person which exceeds the sum of $200,000 or any claim or judgment, or portions thereof, which, when totaled with all other claims or judgments paid by the state or its agencies or subdivisions arising out of the same incident or occurrence, exceeds the sum of $300,000. However, a judgment or judgments may be claimed and rendered in excess of these amounts and may be settled and paid pursuant to this act up to $200,000 or $300,000, as the case may be; and that portion of the judgment that exceeds these amounts may be reported to the Legislature, but may be paid in part or in whole only by further act of the Legislature. "

So liability is limited to $200k per person or $300K per incident unless the legislature grows a conscience and decides to pay the extra.
 
2013-02-17 12:43:47 PM  

SN1987a goes boom: The My Little Pony Killer: The point.
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Farker's heads.
The point is you are blaming the victims and being called out on it.


tl;dr
 
2013-02-17 12:44:01 PM  
"If you're not cop, you're little people"
Climates getting farked up.
Can't get sushi without being hassled by the staff.

Welcome to Blade Runner.

/One Zora please
//Dorner was the first, there will be others.
///Not saying that's a good thing, just a prediction.
 
2013-02-17 12:44:34 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Farkage: Popcorn Johnny: A cop got some traffic tickets dismissed? Oh the outrage. A cop getting a traffic citation dismissed is a perk of the job. Besides, I bet there isn't a person in here that hasn't been given a break by an officer.

He killed somebody you assh*le.  This isn't "getting tickets dismissed".

you hadn't read any of pop0corn johnny's replies in the dorner threads.  dude has superglued himself to cop nutsack so tightly,  cruiser twelve would tell him to stand down.


Lolz!!!  well played.
 
2013-02-17 12:44:51 PM  
The police investigation found him responsible and he was fired for violating policy. Does that make his immunity from lawsuits go away?
 
2013-02-17 12:45:21 PM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Farkage: Popcorn Johnny: A cop got some traffic tickets dismissed? Oh the outrage. A cop getting a traffic citation dismissed is a perk of the job. Besides, I bet there isn't a person in here that hasn't been given a break by an officer.

He killed somebody you assh*le.  This isn't "getting tickets dismissed".

you hadn't read any of pop0corn johnny's replies in the dorner threads.  dude has superglued himself to cop nutsack so tightly,  cruiser twelve would tell him to stand down.


Cruiser twelve at least seems to have some rational sense from the few posts of his I've read.  I'd be interested in his thoughts on this.
 
2013-02-17 12:45:33 PM  
And I got worried a few nights ago, seeing a cop driving (slowly) backwards up a street during light traffic at midnight.
 
2013-02-17 12:46:25 PM  

skinink: I'm just stunned that so many people think cops are above being held accountable for taking a life. He didn't even have charges filed against him so that a judge or jury could at least hear the case and pass judgment.

Even if they fired all the cops involved, the culture they were in remains in place. The news cops hired to replace them would just learn the bad habits.


People don't. But when everyone in power just sweeps this under the rug and there is no hope if justice, then people just stop caring.

Let's say this gets taken to civil trial, I guarantee the judge will throw it out and commend the police for their swift actions.
 
2013-02-17 12:48:33 PM  

AcneVulgaris: The My Little Pony Killer: liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.

She was 12.

My point stands.  A properly restrained ANYTHING doesn't go flying out the car.

Depends on how hard the car gets hit.  Hit it hard enough and EVERYTHING goes flying out of the car.


Didn't read TFA but if the collision was head on, and given the patrol car was doing 100 mph and the Mitsubishi 55 mph, it's like hitting a concrete wall at 155 mph. At that speed, you'll fly out out of the car together with your seat and seat belt.

/ got rear ended at 50 mph. My seat came loose...
 
2013-02-17 12:48:50 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Farkage: He killed somebody you assh*le.  This isn't "getting tickets dismissed".

Great, I'm dealing with a name caller.

This was about some traffic citations, not the person who was killed. There was an investigation and no charges were filed. The officer was doing his farking job and there was a tragic accident and he fact that somebody died is irreverent to these tickets being dismissed.

Continue your immature rant against cops now.


This could well be the most repulsive trolling I've seen on Fark. Someone died, stop already.
 
2013-02-17 12:49:14 PM  

Koodz: I was hoping this was going to be a clear-cut case of the cop just joyriding and engaging in cop antics, because I tend to be on the anti-cop side.  But responding to an emergency call?  I don't know.  We laugh about rocks being thrown off an overpass, but a brick thrown from an overpass onto a driver can easily kill everybody in the car.  It was a legitimate emergency call.  There's no real civilian analogue for this kind of thing, so I can't make a fair comparison and say that if I did the same thing I would deserve prison.  There's no justification for me to be in that situation.  There ARE reasons for a cop to be driving somewhere fast.

He should have had his lights on.  He should have been slower.  Of course having his lights on would have had no effect on what happened.  I think firing him is just about enough in this case.



Yeah.... obviously the perfect solution was to drive at unsafe speeds and kill someone... the county is so much safer.  Because the way to deal with an emergency, is to proceed in the most unprofessional, reckless and dangerous way possible, amirite?  If the guy had slowed down and driven like a human being, an INNOCENT woman would still be alive.

A cop here did the same thing when he  ran a red light with no emergency sights or siren, and he took the leg off of a friend of mine when the cop t-boned my friend's motorcycle.  He, and this useless bit of trash, should both be looking at the inside of a cell for a long time, but they're POLICE OFFICERS, so they walk.  Now, ask me why I don't trust the police.  It's because the police have become untrustworthy- nothing more than government-sanctioned organized crime families.  Then there are your fine, upstanding judges... be sure to kiss their ring.
 
2013-02-17 12:49:25 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Koodz: I think firing him is just about enough in this case.

A lot of murderers have that same sentiment.


Killing people while driving fast or firing weapons is an occupational risk food have that you don't. Oversimplifying this as "murder" is just incorrect.
 
2013-02-17 12:50:13 PM  
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2013-02-17 12:50:18 PM  

Koodz: Mrtraveler01: Koodz: I think firing him is just about enough in this case.

A lot of murderers have that same sentiment.

Killing people while driving fast or firing weapons is an occupational risk food have that you don't. Oversimplifying this as "murder" is just incorrect.


Cops. Not "food."

Bloody phone.
 
2013-02-17 12:53:07 PM  

KStDrew: AcneVulgaris: The My Little Pony Killer: liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.

She was 12.

My point stands.  A properly restrained ANYTHING doesn't go flying out the car.

Depends on how hard the car gets hit.  Hit it hard enough and EVERYTHING goes flying out of the car.

Didn't read TFA but if the collision was head on, and given the patrol car was doing 100 mph and the Mitsubishi 55 mph, it's like hitting a concrete wall at 155 mph. At that speed, you'll fly out out of the car together with your seat and seat belt.

/ got rear ended at 50 mph. My seat came loose...


Physics fail.  The speeds aren't additive.  2 cars colliding at 50mph each head on is the same as hitting a brick wall at 50mph.
Either way, I don't want to hit anything at speed...
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-02-17 12:53:09 PM  
given the patrol car was doing 100 mph and the Mitsubishi 55 mph, it's like hitting a concrete wall at 155 mph.

Like hitting a concrete wall at 75 mph, or a parked car at 155 mph. Anything faster than 50 to 0 in no time is a serious risk of fatality. If you extrapolate from lower speed crashes the risk of death exceeds 100% around 50 mph velocity change, but reality is not that simple.
 
2013-02-17 12:53:52 PM  

Koodz: Koodz: Mrtraveler01: Koodz: I think firing him is just about enough in this case.

A lot of murderers have that same sentiment.

Killing people while driving fast or firing weapons is an occupational risk food have that you don't. Oversimplifying this as "murder" is just incorrect.

Cops. Not "food."

Bloody phone.


Oh, I'm pretty sure you've had plenty of cops in your mouth.
 
2013-02-17 12:53:55 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: Not a Mitsubishi Galant! Those are awesome!!


My first car was a '91 VR4 Galant with all wheel steering. That always threw people off. It was an excellent car. Excellent for drifting too. I only wish they continued making them with the same core features over the years.
 
2013-02-17 12:55:13 PM  

Fark Rye For Many Whores: This could well be the most repulsive trolling I've seen on Fark. Someone died, stop already.


Since when is the rule that a crime has taken place whenever somebody dies? I guess there's no such thing as accidents in your world, right? Police officers drive at high rates of speed as a part of their job, unfortunately that means that you're always going to have accidents, some fatal, because of the job they're doing.

Also stop calling people trolls just because you don't agree with them, it's really immature.
 
2013-02-17 12:59:52 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Police officers drive at high rates of speed as a part of their job, unfortunately that means that you're always going to have accidents, some fatal, because of the job they're doing.


Police officers can take curves rated for 35mph at 120 because they're above the laws of physics. Amirite? They'll just get that extra momentum thrown out of court.
 
2013-02-17 01:00:45 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Fark Rye For Many Whores: This could well be the most repulsive trolling I've seen on Fark. Someone died, stop already.

Since when is the rule that a crime has taken place whenever somebody dies? I guess there's no such thing as accidents in your world, right? Police officers drive at high rates of speed as a part of their job, unfortunately that means that you're always going to have accidents, some fatal, because of the job they're doing.

Also stop calling people trolls just because you don't agree with them, it's really immature.


As part of their job they need to put their damn lights on when driving at high rates of speed.  As far as I'm concerned failure to do so should be regarded as criminally negligent.  Also, if the officer in question is too stupid to figure out that there is no way he's going to make a corner with an advised speed of 35mph at 100mph he's too fricking stupid to have a job that can involve operating a car at a high rate of speed.
 
2013-02-17 01:00:55 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Fark Rye For Many Whores: This could well be the most repulsive trolling I've seen on Fark. Someone died, stop already.

Since when is the rule that a crime has taken place whenever somebody dies? I guess there's no such thing as accidents in your world, right? Police officers drive at high rates of speed as a part of their job, unfortunately that means that you're always going to have accidents, some fatal, because of the job they're doing.

Also stop calling people trolls just because you don't agree with them, it's really immature.


Are you going to answer my question or are you just going to keep on being stupid?
 
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