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(Sun Sentinel)   Driving recklessly at 100mph, crashing into a Mitsubishi Galant, killing one woman, injuring another, and sending a child through a windshield? You better believe that's a prison sentence--wait, you're a state trooper? Charges dismissed   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 298
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2013-02-17 09:32:23 AM
Looks like FHP has license to kill.  The tag has never been more appropriate.
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2013-02-17 09:58:51 AM
Spanky McStupid: " Looks like FHP has most police have a license to kill."


Fixed that for ya!
 
2013-02-17 11:06:08 AM
How is this any different than any other state in America?
 
2013-02-17 11:36:43 AM

King Something: How is this any different than any other state in America?


Probably not, sadly. The trooper didn't deserve prison, but certainly should have been punished to some extent.
 
2013-02-17 11:42:20 AM

Speaker2Animals: King Something: How is this any different than any other state in America?

Probably not, sadly. The trooper didn't deserve prison,


Driving three times the limit, killing someone? Do you think that a non-police officer who does the exact same thing "doesn't deserve prison"?
 
2013-02-17 11:46:52 AM
A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-02-17 11:49:19 AM
We handle it differently in Massachusetts. When city cops tried to press drunk driving charges against a state trooper the magistrate made the case go away. No need to be conveniently absent. Just let the court do its thing. "Continued without a finding" is the standard disposition when public employees get in trouble. That's called "diversion" in some states. Basically it means don't get caught in the next year and it's like you were never in trouble. No disqualifying conviction on your record, no loss of pension for official misconduct.

But when his case came up in court, the trooper who issued the citations wasn't there. Another trooper in attendance said that though he couldn't represent the agency, he would not object to dismissing the tickets, and the judge did just that.

The Romans, and they who shall not be named, had a way to deal with this: collective punishment. Fire 10% of the officers in each of the involved forces.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-02-17 11:52:26 AM
When the case came up, seven troopers were in the courtroom, although the reason is unclear. FHP wouldn't say, and McClellan's lawyer said they may have been present for other cases being heard that day. The judge asked if any of them was able to represent FHP against McClellan, and none said they could.

This reminds me of one of the highlights (lowlights) of the investigation into FBI involvement with organized crime in Boston. Government lawyer said he had tried really hard to find the two law enforcement officials who were being asked to testify to facts that might be favorable to the defense, but they could not be located. Defense attorney walked out of the courtroom and found the missing witnesses in the hallway.
 
2013-02-17 11:58:58 AM

Theaetetus: Speaker2Animals: King Something: How is this any different than any other state in America?

Probably not, sadly. The trooper didn't deserve prison,

Driving three times the limit, killing someone? Do you think that a non-police officer who does the exact same thing "doesn't deserve prison"?


But he was trying to save a life! Someone was throwing rocks!
 
2013-02-17 12:02:40 PM

propasaurus: Theaetetus: Speaker2Animals: King Something: How is this any different than any other state in America?

Probably not, sadly. The trooper didn't deserve prison,

Driving three times the limit, killing someone? Do you think that a non-police officer who does the exact same thing "doesn't deserve prison"?

But he was trying to save a life! Someone was throwing rocks!


Next time send a predator drone after the rock thrower.
 
2013-02-17 12:04:34 PM
indefensible
 
2013-02-17 12:05:51 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.


She was 12.
 
2013-02-17 12:06:40 PM
I was upset with this story until I read this:


FHP Cpl. C. Brooks Yarborough investigated the crash and found McClellan responsible. Prosecutors declined to file criminal charges, determining that the trooper's driving did not rise to the level of vehicular homicide.

"He responded to [the call] rapidly because that's a dangerous thing, rocks hitting cars," Willie Meggs, state attorney for the circuit that includes Gadsden County, told the Sun Sentinel. "We made the conclusion that there was a life lost, but he was trying to save a life."


Then I just got really pissed.

Give me a farking break. Unless they're throwing boulders off the overpass, that is no justification for going 102 mph without even putting your lights and siren on!
 
2013-02-17 12:08:23 PM

propasaurus: Theaetetus: Speaker2Animals: King Something: How is this any different than any other state in America?

Probably not, sadly. The trooper didn't deserve prison,

Driving three times the limit, killing someone? Do you think that a non-police officer who does the exact same thing "doesn't deserve prison"?

But he was trying to save a life! Someone was throwing rocks!


Yeah, there shoulda been some criminal negligence here... I hope the dead woman's family sues the state big...
 
2013-02-17 12:09:40 PM

liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.

She was 12.


My point stands.  A properly restrained ANYTHING doesn't go flying out the car.
 
2013-02-17 12:10:15 PM
and you know who else had this problem?
 
2013-02-17 12:12:40 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.

She was 12.

My point stands.  A properly restrained ANYTHING doesn't go flying out the car.


Yes, the dead woman and the child are obviously at fault, and not the asshole speeding around a corner without emergency lights.  Her family should pay emotional distress damages to the officer.
 
2013-02-17 12:13:24 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.

She was 12.

My point stands.  A properly restrained ANYTHING doesn't go flying out the car.


Yes, the child should have been in a seat belt.  That being said, her lack of restraint didn't affect what the trooper did that day.
 
2013-02-17 12:13:58 PM
Surprised the cop then didn't pull him self out of the wreck of his car and start issuing tickets to the dying driver.
 
2013-02-17 12:14:29 PM
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2013-02-17 12:14:36 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.

She was 12.

My point stands.  A properly restrained ANYTHING doesn't go flying out the car.


Seat belts aren't really designed for your average 12 yr old. There is a chance she was wearing one, regardless of her wearing one he still killed the driver and deserves to go to jail.
 
2013-02-17 12:15:15 PM
Good thing the cop wasn't responding to a wrist-rocket complaint.

I heard they just nuke the whole county to keep something like THAT from taking a life.

(It's the only way to be sure....)
 
2013-02-17 12:15:29 PM
I was hoping this was going to be a clear-cut case of the cop just joyriding and engaging in cop antics, because I tend to be on the anti-cop side.  But responding to an emergency call?  I don't know.  We laugh about rocks being thrown off an overpass, but a brick thrown from an overpass onto a driver can easily kill everybody in the car.  It was a legitimate emergency call.  There's no real civilian analogue for this kind of thing, so I can't make a fair comparison and say that if I did the same thing I would deserve prison.  There's no justification for me to be in that situation.  There ARE reasons for a cop to be driving somewhere fast.

He should have had his lights on.  He should have been slower.  Of course having his lights on would have had no effect on what happened.  I think firing him is just about enough in this case.
 
2013-02-17 12:16:08 PM
"They knew he was wrong. I think it's just because he was a trooper, and they look out for each other."

Ya think?

He could have raped, killed, and eaten a baby, and his fellow officers would still be lining up behind him.
 
2013-02-17 12:16:30 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: The point.
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The point is you are blaming the victims and being called out on it.
 
2013-02-17 12:16:41 PM
I've been a law & order person all my life, worked as a dispatcher off & on for almost 20 years.
THIS kind of crap ticks me off.  I see officers doing stuff like this all the time & you just want to
slap em up side the head.  Blowing through intersections IN TOWN at 100mph around "drunk thirty"
at night, speeding with no lights or siren.  Pulling up to an intersection, tossing on the lights/siren
just to get through the intersection because they don't want to wait on the light (I have a scanner
so I know if they are on a call or not).  It just enforces the public's perception of "bad cops" when they
do crap like this, but, considering the moral decay of society, it's not surprising that police do it also.
 
2013-02-17 12:17:05 PM

liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.

She was 12.

My point stands.  A properly restrained ANYTHING doesn't go flying out the car.

Seat belts aren't really designed for your average 12 yr old. There is a chance she was wearing one, regardless of her wearing one he still killed the driver and deserves to go to jail.


But he won't. I stopped believing in justice.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-02-17 12:17:06 PM
that is no justification for going 102 mph without even putting your lights and siren on!

Police cars should be designed to automatically put on lights when they go over the speed limit for the area. The system could use the state maximum limit if local speed limits are too confusing to program, but I want the lights to go on every time a cop approaches a 25 mph zone at any speed over 24.

A properly restrained ANYTHING doesn't go flying out the car.

Belted passengers can be ejected from high speed wrecks. I remember reading about a wreck where the belted driver went out the back window. Race car drivers get better belts than passenger car drivers.
 
2013-02-17 12:17:23 PM
Wait until they find the guy throwing rocks and charge him with careless driving, speeding, failure to use his emergency lights, and vehicular homicide.
 
2013-02-17 12:18:54 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.

She was 12.

My point stands.  A properly restrained ANYTHING doesn't go flying out the car.


Depends on how hard the car gets hit.  Hit it hard enough and EVERYTHING goes flying out of the car.
 
2013-02-17 12:19:35 PM

ZAZ: We handle it differently in Massachusetts. When city cops tried to press drunk driving charges against a state trooper the magistrate made the case go away. No need to be conveniently absent. Just let the court do its thing. "Continued without a finding" is the standard disposition when public employees get in trouble. That's called "diversion" in some states. Basically it means don't get caught in the next year and it's like you were never in trouble. No disqualifying conviction on your record, no loss of pension for official misconduct.

But when his case came up in court, the trooper who issued the citations wasn't there. Another trooper in attendance said that though he couldn't represent the agency, he would not object to dismissing the tickets, and the judge did just that.

The Romans, and they who shall not be named, had a way to deal with this: collective punishment. Fire 10% of the officers in each of the involved forces.


Actually, it was execute 10% of the involved forces. It sent a message. I could get behind that method of punishment again.
 
2013-02-17 12:19:47 PM

Koodz: I was hoping this was going to be a clear-cut case of the cop just joyriding and engaging in cop antics, because I tend to be on the anti-cop side.  But responding to an emergency call?  I don't know.  We laugh about rocks being thrown off an overpass, but a brick thrown from an overpass onto a driver can easily kill everybody in the car.  It was a legitimate emergency call.  There's no real civilian analogue for this kind of thing, so I can't make a fair comparison and say that if I did the same thing I would deserve prison.  There's no justification for me to be in that situation.  There ARE reasons for a cop to be driving somewhere fast.

He should have had his lights on.  He should have been slower.  Of course having his lights on would have had no effect on what happened.  I think firing him is just about enough in this case.


Well, he didn't. If a civilian is speeding for something important and kills someone -- vehicular f*cking manslaughter and you know it.

They should be held to a higher standard; instead, they're allowed to get away with murder (in the real and metaphorical sense).
 
2013-02-17 12:20:36 PM
McClellan walked out with no consequences, and even got handshakes from his fellow law enforcement officers.

Yet people wonder why they're so maligned. Fark em.
 
2013-02-17 12:21:11 PM

Koodz: I was hoping this was going to be a clear-cut case of the cop just joyriding and engaging in cop antics, because I tend to be on the anti-cop side.  But responding to an emergency call?  I don't know.  We laugh about rocks being thrown off an overpass, but a brick thrown from an overpass onto a driver can easily kill everybody in the car.  It was a legitimate emergency call.  There's no real civilian analogue for this kind of thing, so I can't make a fair comparison and say that if I did the same thing I would deserve prison.  There's no justification for me to be in that situation.  There ARE reasons for a cop to be driving somewhere fast.

He should have had his lights on.  He should have been slower.  Of course having his lights on would have had no effect on what happened.  I think firing him is just about enough in this case.


What you think is irrelevant. Firing him is not enough- it's not up for debate. He caused the death of a person while not executing his duties as has been determined the best way. Jail is enough. You won't be arguing against that further.
 
2013-02-17 12:21:36 PM
At least some people have been sacked, which is more that I expected.
But did I read right? You have the right to face your accuser in court. But since the accuser wasn't in court, the judge asked seven other troopers if they would stand in? Was she asking if they were witnesses? Or does the Florida court see the FHP as a single entity? No sir, I don't like it.
 
2013-02-17 12:21:39 PM

nekulor: ZAZ: We handle it differently in Massachusetts. When city cops tried to press drunk driving charges against a state trooper the magistrate made the case go away. No need to be conveniently absent. Just let the court do its thing. "Continued without a finding" is the standard disposition when public employees get in trouble. That's called "diversion" in some states. Basically it means don't get caught in the next year and it's like you were never in trouble. No disqualifying conviction on your record, no loss of pension for official misconduct.

But when his case came up in court, the trooper who issued the citations wasn't there. Another trooper in attendance said that though he couldn't represent the agency, he would not object to dismissing the tickets, and the judge did just that.

The Romans, and they who shall not be named, had a way to deal with this: collective punishment. Fire 10% of the officers in each of the involved forces.

Actually, it was execute 10% of the involved forces. It sent a message. I could get behind that method of punishment again.


This. The police have no accountability. As if to underscore this vast division between LEOs and the proletariat target practice, filming the police doing unaccountable things can only end badly.

They've gone too far.
 
2013-02-17 12:22:06 PM

Speaker2Animals: King Something: How is this any different than any other state in America?

Probably not, sadly. The trooper didn't deserve prison, but certainly should have been punished to some extent.


He ABSOLUTELY deserved prison!!!  Jesus f*cking christ!  If anyone else in the country did that they would have the book thrown at them and this is ABSOLUTELY no different.  This is reason #847 why I don't like or respect police.
 
2013-02-17 12:23:07 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.


Good for you, now go away.
 
2013-02-17 12:23:16 PM

Farkage: Speaker2Animals: King Something: How is this any different than any other state in America?

Probably not, sadly. The trooper didn't deserve prison, but certainly should have been punished to some extent.

He ABSOLUTELY deserved prison!!!  Jesus f*cking christ!  If anyone else in the country did that they would have the book thrown at them and this is ABSOLUTELY no different.  This is reason #847 why I don't like or respect police.


Yup. If you're a wealthy, famous, politically-connected, or a cop -- the law doesn't apply to you.
 
2013-02-17 12:23:37 PM

MythDragon: Surprised the cop then didn't pull him self out of the wreck of his car and start issuing tickets to the dying driver.


Pretty much this.

When are we going to stop letting the cops be above the law?
 
2013-02-17 12:25:14 PM
Not a Mitsubishi Galant! Those are awesome!!
 
2013-02-17 12:26:15 PM
I've never been part of the Fark Police Haters Brigade, but wow. This is cronyism at its finest.
 
2013-02-17 12:26:27 PM
Medic Zero: When are we going to stop letting the cops be above the law?

you're obviously not a Steven Seagal fan.
 
2013-02-17 12:26:41 PM

Medic Zero: MythDragon: Surprised the cop then didn't pull him self out of the wreck of his car and start issuing tickets to the dying driver.

Pretty much this.

When are we going to stop letting the cops be above the law?



static.guim.co.uk
Proud.
 
2013-02-17 12:26:42 PM

Mrtraveler01: I was upset with this story until I read this:


FHP Cpl. C. Brooks Yarborough investigated the crash and found McClellan responsible. Prosecutors declined to file criminal charges, determining that the trooper's driving did not rise to the level of vehicular homicide.

"He responded to [the call] rapidly because that's a dangerous thing, rocks hitting cars," Willie Meggs, state attorney for the circuit that includes Gadsden County, told the Sun Sentinel. "We made the conclusion that there was a life lost, but he was trying to save a life."

Then I just got really pissed.

Give me a farking break. Unless they're throwing boulders off the overpass, that is no justification for going 102 mph without even putting your lights and siren on!


This.  The police need to choose when responding to a call, either put your damn lights on if it is necessary to violate traffic laws to get there quickly, or keep your lights off to remain covert and follow the damn traffic laws.  If you are going to be driving at excessive speed, on the wrong side of the road, or against traffic laws the rest of us deserve some warning so we can try to avoid you.

Some of the stupid shiat I've seen police officers do without their lights on is terrifying.
 
2013-02-17 12:27:08 PM

Koodz: I think firing him is just about enough in this case.


You're aware that he killed someone, right?
 
2013-02-17 12:27:45 PM

Speaker2Animals: King Something: How is this any different than any other state in America?

Probably not, sadly. The trooper didn't deserve prison, but certainly should have been punished to some extent.


How the fark doesn't he deserve prison. The asshole was driving ridiculously unsafe (102 in a 35? fark that!) and he killed people.

I say he needs to go to jail just like anyone else.

The cops that clearly conspired to get him off... They need to be shot in the forehead. And no, I'm not kidding. I mean it. They are corrupt cops and they're clearly conspiring to pervert the law. I say death penalty for them is the just punishment.
 
2013-02-17 12:27:54 PM
A cop got some traffic tickets dismissed? Oh the outrage. A cop getting a traffic citation dismissed is a perk of the job. Besides, I bet there isn't a person in here that hasn't been given a break by an officer.
 
2013-02-17 12:28:00 PM
Ah, the police. Bravely risking your life to stomp on petty crime.
 
2013-02-17 12:28:55 PM

pxlboy: Farkage: Speaker2Animals: King Something: How is this any different than any other state in America?

Probably not, sadly. The trooper didn't deserve prison, but certainly should have been punished to some extent.

He ABSOLUTELY deserved prison!!!  Jesus f*cking christ!  If anyone else in the country did that they would have the book thrown at them and this is ABSOLUTELY no different.  This is reason #847 why I don't like or respect police.

Yup. If you're a wealthy, famous, politically-connected, or a cop -- the law doesn't apply to you.


No shiat.  And it's disgusting.
 
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