Looks like FHP has license to kill.  The tag has never been more appropriate.

How is this any different than any other state in America?

Speaker2Animals: King Something: How is this any different than any other state in America?

Probably not, sadly. The trooper didn't deserve prison,

Driving three times the limit, killing someone? Do you think that a non-police officer who does the exact same thing "doesn't deserve prison"?

A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.

propasaurus: Theaetetus: Speaker2Animals: King Something: How is this any different than any other state in America?

Probably not, sadly. The trooper didn't deserve prison,

Driving three times the limit, killing someone? Do you think that a non-police officer who does the exact same thing "doesn't deserve prison"?

But he was trying to save a life! Someone was throwing rocks!

Next time send a predator drone after the rock thrower.

indefensible

The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.

She was 12.

I was upset with this story until I read this:


FHP Cpl. C. Brooks Yarborough investigated the crash and found McClellan responsible. Prosecutors declined to file criminal charges, determining that the trooper's driving did not rise to the level of vehicular homicide.

"He responded to [the call] rapidly because that's a dangerous thing, rocks hitting cars," Willie Meggs, state attorney for the circuit that includes Gadsden County, told the Sun Sentinel. "We made the conclusion that there was a life lost, but he was trying to save a life."

Then I just got really pissed.

Give me a farking break. Unless they're throwing boulders off the overpass, that is no justification for going 102 mph without even putting your lights and siren on!

propasaurus: Theaetetus: Speaker2Animals: King Something: How is this any different than any other state in America?

Probably not, sadly. The trooper didn't deserve prison,

Driving three times the limit, killing someone? Do you think that a non-police officer who does the exact same thing "doesn't deserve prison"?

But he was trying to save a life! Someone was throwing rocks!

Yeah, there shoulda been some criminal negligence here... I hope the dead woman's family sues the state big...

liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.

She was 12.

My point stands.  A properly restrained ANYTHING doesn't go flying out the car.

and you know who else had this problem?

The My Little Pony Killer: liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.

She was 12.

My point stands.  A properly restrained ANYTHING doesn't go flying out the car.

Yes, the dead woman and the child are obviously at fault, and not the asshole speeding around a corner without emergency lights.  Her family should pay emotional distress damages to the officer.

The My Little Pony Killer: liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.

She was 12.

My point stands.  A properly restrained ANYTHING doesn't go flying out the car.

Yes, the child should have been in a seat belt.  That being said, her lack of restraint didn't affect what the trooper did that day.

Surprised the cop then didn't pull him self out of the wreck of his car and start issuing tickets to the dying driver.

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The My Little Pony Killer: liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.

She was 12.

My point stands.  A properly restrained ANYTHING doesn't go flying out the car.

Seat belts aren't really designed for your average 12 yr old. There is a chance she was wearing one, regardless of her wearing one he still killed the driver and deserves to go to jail.

I was hoping this was going to be a clear-cut case of the cop just joyriding and engaging in cop antics, because I tend to be on the anti-cop side.  But responding to an emergency call?  I don't know.  We laugh about rocks being thrown off an overpass, but a brick thrown from an overpass onto a driver can easily kill everybody in the car.  It was a legitimate emergency call.  There's no real civilian analogue for this kind of thing, so I can't make a fair comparison and say that if I did the same thing I would deserve prison.  There's no justification for me to be in that situation.  There ARE reasons for a cop to be driving somewhere fast.

He should have had his lights on.  He should have been slower.  Of course having his lights on would have had no effect on what happened.  I think firing him is just about enough in this case.

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The point is you are blaming the victims and being called out on it.

I've been a law & order person all my life, worked as a dispatcher off & on for almost 20 years.
THIS kind of crap ticks me off.  I see officers doing stuff like this all the time & you just want to
slap em up side the head.  Blowing through intersections IN TOWN at 100mph around "drunk thirty"
at night, speeding with no lights or siren.  Pulling up to an intersection, tossing on the lights/siren
just to get through the intersection because they don't want to wait on the light (I have a scanner
so I know if they are on a call or not).  It just enforces the public's perception of "bad cops" when they
do crap like this, but, considering the moral decay of society, it's not surprising that police do it also.

Wait until they find the guy throwing rocks and charge him with careless driving, speeding, failure to use his emergency lights, and vehicular homicide.

The My Little Pony Killer: liam76: The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.

She was 12.

My point stands.  A properly restrained ANYTHING doesn't go flying out the car.

Depends on how hard the car gets hit.  Hit it hard enough and EVERYTHING goes flying out of the car.

ZAZ: We handle it differently in Massachusetts. When city cops tried to press drunk driving charges against a state trooper the magistrate made the case go away. No need to be conveniently absent. Just let the court do its thing. "Continued without a finding" is the standard disposition when public employees get in trouble. That's called "diversion" in some states. Basically it means don't get caught in the next year and it's like you were never in trouble. No disqualifying conviction on your record, no loss of pension for official misconduct.

But when his case came up in court, the trooper who issued the citations wasn't there. Another trooper in attendance said that though he couldn't represent the agency, he would not object to dismissing the tickets, and the judge did just that.

The Romans, and they who shall not be named, had a way to deal with this: collective punishment. Fire 10% of the officers in each of the involved forces.

Actually, it was execute 10% of the involved forces. It sent a message. I could get behind that method of punishment again.

McClellan walked out with no consequences, and even got handshakes from his fellow law enforcement officers.

Yet people wonder why they're so maligned. Fark em.

Koodz: I was hoping this was going to be a clear-cut case of the cop just joyriding and engaging in cop antics, because I tend to be on the anti-cop side.  But responding to an emergency call?  I don't know.  We laugh about rocks being thrown off an overpass, but a brick thrown from an overpass onto a driver can easily kill everybody in the car.  It was a legitimate emergency call.  There's no real civilian analogue for this kind of thing, so I can't make a fair comparison and say that if I did the same thing I would deserve prison.  There's no justification for me to be in that situation.  There ARE reasons for a cop to be driving somewhere fast.

He should have had his lights on.  He should have been slower.  Of course having his lights on would have had no effect on what happened.  I think firing him is just about enough in this case.

What you think is irrelevant. Firing him is not enough- it's not up for debate. He caused the death of a person while not executing his duties as has been determined the best way. Jail is enough. You won't be arguing against that further.

At least some people have been sacked, which is more that I expected.
But did I read right? You have the right to face your accuser in court. But since the accuser wasn't in court, the judge asked seven other troopers if they would stand in? Was she asking if they were witnesses? Or does the Florida court see the FHP as a single entity? No sir, I don't like it.

Speaker2Animals: King Something: How is this any different than any other state in America?

Probably not, sadly. The trooper didn't deserve prison, but certainly should have been punished to some extent.

He ABSOLUTELY deserved prison!!!  Jesus f*cking christ!  If anyone else in the country did that they would have the book thrown at them and this is ABSOLUTELY no different.  This is reason #847 why I don't like or respect police.

The My Little Pony Killer: A baby that is properly restrained does not get "sent through the windshield" fyi.

Good for you, now go away.

MythDragon: Surprised the cop then didn't pull him self out of the wreck of his car and start issuing tickets to the dying driver.

Pretty much this.

When are we going to stop letting the cops be above the law?

Not a Mitsubishi Galant! Those are awesome!!

I've never been part of the Fark Police Haters Brigade, but wow. This is cronyism at its finest.

Medic Zero: When are we going to stop letting the cops be above the law?

you're obviously not a Steven Seagal fan.

Medic Zero: MythDragon: Surprised the cop then didn't pull him self out of the wreck of his car and start issuing tickets to the dying driver.

Pretty much this.

When are we going to stop letting the cops be above the law?



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Mrtraveler01: I was upset with this story until I read this:


FHP Cpl. C. Brooks Yarborough investigated the crash and found McClellan responsible. Prosecutors declined to file criminal charges, determining that the trooper's driving did not rise to the level of vehicular homicide.

"He responded to [the call] rapidly because that's a dangerous thing, rocks hitting cars," Willie Meggs, state attorney for the circuit that includes Gadsden County, told the Sun Sentinel. "We made the conclusion that there was a life lost, but he was trying to save a life."

Then I just got really pissed.

Give me a farking break. Unless they're throwing boulders off the overpass, that is no justification for going 102 mph without even putting your lights and siren on!

This.  The police need to choose when responding to a call, either put your damn lights on if it is necessary to violate traffic laws to get there quickly, or keep your lights off to remain covert and follow the damn traffic laws.  If you are going to be driving at excessive speed, on the wrong side of the road, or against traffic laws the rest of us deserve some warning so we can try to avoid you.

Some of the stupid shiat I've seen police officers do without their lights on is terrifying.

Koodz: I think firing him is just about enough in this case.

You're aware that he killed someone, right?

Speaker2Animals: King Something: How is this any different than any other state in America?

Probably not, sadly. The trooper didn't deserve prison, but certainly should have been punished to some extent.

How the fark doesn't he deserve prison. The asshole was driving ridiculously unsafe (102 in a 35? fark that!) and he killed people.

I say he needs to go to jail just like anyone else.

The cops that clearly conspired to get him off... They need to be shot in the forehead. And no, I'm not kidding. I mean it. They are corrupt cops and they're clearly conspiring to pervert the law. I say death penalty for them is the just punishment.

Ah, the police. Bravely risking your life to stomp on petty crime.

pxlboy: Farkage: Speaker2Animals: King Something: How is this any different than any other state in America?

Probably not, sadly. The trooper didn't deserve prison, but certainly should have been punished to some extent.

He ABSOLUTELY deserved prison!!!  Jesus f*cking christ!  If anyone else in the country did that they would have the book thrown at them and this is ABSOLUTELY no different.  This is reason #847 why I don't like or respect police.

Yup. If you're a wealthy, famous, politically-connected, or a cop -- the law doesn't apply to you.

No shiat.  And it's disgusting.