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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-02-17 12:11:28 PM  
Is there a legally acceptable name to apply to honey without pollen? Ultrafiltered bee vomit? You could turn that into an advantage. Our competitor's product is contaminated with particulate matter. Our product is purified.
 
2013-02-17 12:51:21 PM  

ZAZ: Is there a legally acceptable name to apply to honey without pollen? Ultrafiltered bee vomit? You could turn that into an advantage. Our competitor's product is contaminated with particulate matter. Our product is purified.


I can almost guarantee there's someone in a little office on K Street doing that exact thing right now.
 
2013-02-17 01:56:28 PM  
It's sort of like how playing Words With Friends on a smartphone with more processing power than the computers that put a man on the moon.

This isn't a sentence.
 
2013-02-17 01:57:49 PM  

ZAZ: Is there a legally acceptable name to apply to honey without pollen? Ultrafiltered bee vomit? You could turn that into an advantage. Our competitor's product is contaminated with particulate matter. Our product is purified.


Our salmon won't go pink in the can.
 
2013-02-17 02:02:26 PM  
China has been sneaking in mislabeled honey for many years. If they really want to stop it, they'll need to start issuing very extreme punishments at the packagers and shippers.
 
2013-02-17 02:03:47 PM  
"...grocery store has had its pollen removed. Now, there's really no good reason for someone to do that "

People buy bee pollen at ridiculous prices. That's a very good reason to remove it, especially if it doesn't change the honey. Manufacturers would be stupid not to.
 
2013-02-17 02:08:00 PM  
I don't know about the honey thing, but building lasers for Martians seems like a really bad idea...
 
2013-02-17 02:09:02 PM  
In other news, people counterfeit honey

Darlin', I could have told you that.

/and don't call me "honey"
 
2013-02-17 02:47:24 PM  

ZAZ: Is there a legally acceptable name to apply to honey without pollen? Ultrafiltered bee vomit? You could turn that into an advantage. Our competitor's product is contaminated with particulate matter. Our product is purified.


McDonald's used to offer a "honey" dipping sauce for its McNuggets which was mostly corn syrup and flavorings.
 
2013-02-17 02:54:32 PM  
FTFA: Last month, the TTP gave the world better racing tires, thanks to a high-damping material originally designed to protect sensitive instruments in space and about half a dozen other things.

Right. Because exploring the universe is a waste of money, but by golly if it helps Formula 1 then it's all worth it.
 
2013-02-17 03:05:40 PM  

natazha: People buy bee pollen at ridiculous prices. That's a very good reason to remove it, especially if it doesn't change the honey. Manufacturers would be stupid not to.


There are so many things wrong with that statement... I don't know where to begin.
 
2013-02-17 03:54:15 PM  
I once had a really interesting conversation with a bee farmer/honey manufacturer guy. (I was working in a warehouse that he was buying equipment from.) Honey is apparently a pretty cutthroat, rough business. And big buyers of honey are insanely nitpicky.
 
2013-02-17 04:02:59 PM  

natazha: "...grocery store has had its pollen removed. Now, there's really no good reason for someone to do that "

People buy bee pollen at ridiculous prices. That's a very good reason to remove it, especially if it doesn't change the honey. Manufacturers would be stupid not to.


There's actually a very good reason to remove pollen from honey but selling the pollen is not that reason -- the pollen is destroyed in the removal process.  The reason is to sell the honey.  Turns out that us USA Americans prefer honey that doesn't crystallize in the jar.  And particles, including pollen, can form the seed for crystallization to begin so the mass producers filter the product through diatomaceous earth (the same stuff used to filter beer).   Perfectly legitimate honey producers with not an ounce of Chinese honey in their product do this all the time.

Me, I like the thicker, local stuff with character.  Hell, bring on a bee wing from time to time.  But that doesn't make the other stuff "wrong" by any measure.
 
2013-02-17 04:05:09 PM  
Two words: Cosa nostra
Another two words: Horse meat
Food tampering, smuggling, etc. are some of the main activities for organised crime in Europe.
 
2013-02-17 04:05:17 PM  

usernameguy: It's sort of like how playing Words With Friends on a smartphone with more processing power than the computers that put a man on the moon.

This isn't a sentence.


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GM:Then I guess I'm gonna have to read it for you. It says this is farking private property! No farking trespassing! That means farking  you.
Bill: It says all that?
GM: Yeah.
Bill: Well maybe if you wrote it in farking English I could farking understand it.
 
2013-02-17 04:11:13 PM  
Counterfeit honey is a perfect example of how totally shiat our food supply chain has become.  We`re eating who-the-fark-knows-what, produced god-knows-where, and most of the time don`t even think about it.

Anything from China is automatically suspect, not because Chinese people are inherently crooked, but because it`s a god damn huge country, with lots of exporting, and a gov`t that really doesn`t give a fark if its companies sell us tainted food, as long as they don`t get caught doing it.

Personally I buy honey that`s produced within a few hours`drive of my house, because it`s pretty easy to do so here.  It doesn`t magically make the grocery store pizzas in my deep freeze into ``100 mile diet`` items, but it`s something I can do.
 
2013-02-17 04:23:49 PM  
Fun fact, the US consumed more honey last year than was produced on the entire planet.

If you're buying honey without knowing where it came from, you're almost definitely getting counterfeit honey.  And in addition to the rice fructose syrup, you're also getting chloramphenicol, various fluoroquinolones, a bunch of nitrofurans, some pesticides, and occasionally lead and arsenic.  Have fun.

/don't eat anything from China
//ever
 
2013-02-17 04:46:55 PM  
 
2013-02-17 05:40:15 PM  
You know, at some point you just have to be impressed by the sheer volume of things china has managed to counterfeit...
 
2013-02-17 07:11:59 PM  
If it costs 15 cents to make a pound of honey but 10 cents to make a pound of something that tastes like honey then somewhere someone is cutting it with honey to make it cheaper and increase their profits.

Honey, milk, meat, and eggs. Buy locally and know your dealer.
 
2013-02-17 07:27:25 PM  
Olive oil is another product that is counterfeited, and so is maple syrup.
 
2013-02-17 07:30:32 PM  

ChubbyTiger: Fun fact, the US consumed more honey last year than was produced on the entire planet.

If you're buying honey without knowing where it came from, you're almost definitely getting counterfeit honey.  And in addition to the rice fructose syrup, you're also getting chloramphenicol, various fluoroquinolones, a bunch of nitrofurans, some pesticides, and occasionally lead and arsenic.  Have fun.

/don't eat anything from China
//ever


Oh no! Not fluroquinolones!

Argh...tentacles... growing from.. ARMPITS!
 
2013-02-17 08:30:31 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: ChubbyTiger: Fun fact, the US consumed more honey last year than was produced on the entire planet.

If you're buying honey without knowing where it came from, you're almost definitely getting counterfeit honey.  And in addition to the rice fructose syrup, you're also getting chloramphenicol, various fluoroquinolones, a bunch of nitrofurans, some pesticides, and occasionally lead and arsenic.  Have fun.

/don't eat anything from China
//ever

Oh no! Not fluroquinolones!

Argh...tentacles... growing from.. ARMPITS!


You're confusing Japan and China.
 
2013-02-17 08:52:48 PM  
100% Pure Sue Bee Honey = 51%HFCS and 49% bee vomit. And the FDA takes its bribes and laughs and laughs. It's not supposed to be honey, you see, it's the patented formula known as "100% Pure Sue Bee Honey".

/these statements have not been evaluated by the FDA
 
2013-02-17 10:22:22 PM  
Nor by anyone with even the smallest connection with reality.
 
2013-02-17 11:21:54 PM  
it is honey without DEATH SPORES! obviously you want less death spores in your honey.  as well as less bee fecal matter
 
2013-02-17 11:54:45 PM  
Most honey in the stores is 80% corn syrup, 20% honey. Honey should pour slooooowly out of the jar, not easy like mustard.
Trade my honey with my bee raising neighboor. I trade him the wife's habanero dill pickles for his honey.
/hot biscuits and honey... mmmm
 
2013-02-18 12:25:35 AM  

wildlifer: Most honey in the stores is 80% corn syrup, 20% honey. Honey should pour slooooowly out of the jar, not easy like mustard.
Trade my honey with my bee raising neighboor. I trade him the wife's habanero dill pickles for his honey.
/hot biscuits and honey... mmmm


No. No it's not. You're just making that up. You're stupid and you're lying.
 
2013-02-18 01:35:26 AM  

Manfred J. Hattan: Nor by anyone with even the smallest connection with reality.


http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/11/tests-show-most-store-honey-is nt -honey/#.USHLi6VtijE

You might want to coat your words in some honey. It'll make 'em easier to choke down. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH BURN.
 
2013-02-18 07:46:49 AM  
Fortunately for maple syrup I can spend a little more and know I'm getting something more than a bottle of HFCS. Honey is not so lucky, so unless I start finding it locally, I'm not buying.
 
2013-02-18 10:33:15 AM  
Wow... I didn't realize that honey was such a scam down in the pants....I'd be afraid to buy honey from the US thanks to your comments.

I've never been a honey person... but then a month ago I discovered unpasteurized (organic) honey thanks to a rough winter and non-stop dry and sore throat.... I'm just about to finish my bottle (but already have a couple of others, different types including blueberry) which is the most honey I've ever had in such a short time in my entire life, mostly in my tea (with lemon).

This is like discovering steak after having eaten nothing but processed meatballs... the difference is unbelievable.

I'm not one of those hippies that makes a big deal about food needing to be from the forest at a 1000% price increase, but this is one thing that I believe is worth it.  Considering that the joke is, at the health food store, they had less choice than the other stores, they have more of the processed and pasteurized stuff, and at a good 50 to 100% higher price.

And I can find a lot of local stuff, so I'm pretty good to go now.
 
2013-02-18 03:55:40 PM  

untaken_name: Manfred J. Hattan: Nor by anyone with even the smallest connection with reality.

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/11/tests-show-most-store-honey-is nt -honey/#.USHLi6VtijE

You might want to coat your words in some honey. It'll make 'em easier to choke down. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH BURN.


Don't get your news from plaintiff's lawyers, son. It makes you looks stupider than you already are. NPR on honey.
 
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