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(BBC)   "I think the impact of decriminalising, of regulating [class A drugs], of taking this activity out of the hands of organised crime, is the way to improve our society right now"   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 18
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2013-02-17 11:40:02 AM  
2 votes:

alice_600: I believe a review of drug policy is badly needed.

How about just not doing drugs? Seems easy enough to me.


THIS...So THIS. BTW my state legalized pot wanna see how rich we got?


So why don`t you two go over there and not do drugs and talk about your latest justin bieber album and glee.

The rest of us cool kids will be wasted over there dancing with the women who were raised by their mom and have boundary issues and tattoos and borderline alcoholism.
2013-02-17 11:10:27 AM  
2 votes:
We need to take the distribution and manufacturing of these dangerous drugs away from organized crime and put it into the hands of a more benevolent and responsible group of people.... big pharma.
2013-02-17 08:31:29 AM  
2 votes:
This is great idea. Legalizing hard drugs means that you can tax the sale of them, making money for the state. As everyone knows heroin and coke addicts have lots of disposable income and will be willing to pay that extra bit for a high.  We must also think about the side benefits of this plan, like the rise of hard drug market economy. Competition will help drive that price down so that everyone can be a drooling drug fiend if they want too.  This also opens vast new opportunities for Discovery Channel shows as there will be tens of millions of dollars to be made in the black market sale of untaxed drugs.
2013-02-17 06:24:22 AM  
2 votes:
"I think the impact of decriminalizing, of regulating [class A drugs], of taking this activity out of the hands of organized crime, is the way to improve our society right now,"

Stupid Brits and their stupid spelling.
2013-02-18 05:19:59 AM  
1 votes:

Dwindle: Your a farking moron and I hope someone you love is killed because of it.
A heroin addict will max out on about $3000 a week, if they're lucky.
Once they die,
There are hundreds of millions, if not billions of people out there to take their place.
You have never met an addict in your entire life, and your ignorance is exactly why we have the problem we do.


I've been checking the lists, but my reservation for heroin addiction keeps getting bumped.  Do you know of a recently deceased heroin addict whose space I might fill?   I'm just sick of all this bureaucratic red tape.  I tell you, just getting the proper documentation to even apply for addiction is such a byzantine snakepit that I've gone through two passports in the meantime.

 I think I would make a great heroin addict, and to be honest, this alcohol addiction is getting me nowhere.  If you know of a shortcut, I promise not to tell the countless billions waiting for their addiction papers.  I know it's asking a lot, but any advice on how to go about realizing my potential as a heroin addict without going through the tedium that is Big Government would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.
2013-02-17 04:31:11 PM  
1 votes:

Clemkadidlefark: Never happen.

The opium war lord families in the Northeast which have control of Washington and both political parties will never allow this to happen.  Aspinwall, Cabot, Cushing, Derby, Coles, Forbes, King, Nye, Perkins, Sturgis, Thomson, Wetmore. Russell. Franklin DELANO Roosevelt's money - great gobs of it - came from grandfather Warren Delano, a king hell opium war lord in the Pearl River delta. Your Liberal icon never had to work for money, he inherited through his mother a gigantic fortune courtesy of millions of opium addicted Chinese, a hell on earth for them.


I find the lack of Jews and Space Lizards being mentioned in this post disturbing.
2013-02-17 12:22:28 PM  
1 votes:

Cowkitchen2: All I know is, I live in constant fear that my doctor will get too skittish to keep my back pain adequately controlled, and then I'll be in constant misery.  Which would affect not only me, but my husband, and my kids -- everything and everybody I'm involved with.  With a degenerative spinal condition, if I can't have my pain treated, all hope for the future will be lost to me.


Get an inversion table.
Do it today.
Sell a kid into slavery if you have to.
Oh, and learn how to use it FIRST.
3 days, you will believe.
2013-02-17 12:01:40 PM  
1 votes:

snocone: Write this down.

Your day will come.


Brompton cocktail - sometimes called a Brompton mixture, or, incorrectly, Brompton's cocktail - is an elixir meant for use as a pain suppressant, and dosed for  prophylaxis. Made from  morphine or  diacetylmorphine (heroin),  cocaine, highly-pure  ethyl alcohol (some recipes specify gin), and sometimes with  chlorpromazine (Thorazine) to counteract nausea, it was given to  terminally-ill individuals (especially  cancer patients) to relieve  pain and promote sociability near death. A common formulation included "a variable amount of morphine, 10  mg of cocaine, 2.5  mL of 98% ethyl alcohol, 5 mL of syrup BP and a variable amount of chloroform water.

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Holy balls that sounds like a dream vacation.
2013-02-17 11:45:24 AM  
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: Yes, because once it is available by prescription, there will be no more illegal usage of the drugs.
Brilliant.


Inorite! Currently, nobody does drugs because they are illegal. Just think of all of the problems we will cause when people finally start using them! It will be madness.
2013-02-17 11:39:05 AM  
1 votes:

Rozotorical: cman: Preemptive strike on the inevitable direction of this thread:

The argument that organized crime will evaporate if we legalize drugs is complete horse shiat. Organized crime will exist as long as there is crime. They will just move onto other money making endeavors.

I want drugs legalized because I like them. I aint gonna bullshiat about that.

You're telling me, that removing billions in their revenue stream will have no effect?




It will have an effect.
Ending prohibitions on drugs, guns, booze, prostitution and others things (here to for referred to as "Fun") gets the criminals out of profitable and illegitimate business. They either go straight and make less money in the fun industry, or they find a new racket.
The mob is involved in rigging everything from gas meters to renewable energy schemes. They just aren't as profitable as buying fun for a dollar outside the US and reselling it for hundreds of thousands inside.

The main side effect is reducing fun related violence and the ill influences of profiteering on fun. It gets all the money from fun out of the gangs, who will have to find something else to fight over besides their illicit stockpiles of fun.

There will still be crime, but with luck it will take on a less corrupting and dangerous form.
More jobs created by fun, fewer criminals.
2013-02-17 11:33:30 AM  
1 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: Glancing Blow: cman: Preemptive strike on the inevitable direction of this thread:

The argument that organized crime will evaporate if we legalize drugs is complete horse shiat. Organized crime will exist as long as there is crime. They will just move onto other money making endeavors.

I want drugs legalized because I like them. I aint gonna bullshiat about that.

I don't know why you're reading it that way.  It explicitly states the taking of drugs away from organized crime control, not that this will eliminate organized crime.

So organized crime is not going to sell drugs to people who can't, or won't get a prescription?
Or they won't undercut the prices on the legal drugs.

I think that is a very naive view.


It`s like booze now. The black market only supplies legitimate alcohol, branded etc just obtained without paying tax and the price is usually halfway between the full price and the tax free price. This happens with almost every product with tax on it.

this limits profit on a product to half the tax.

In the current black market for drugs there is often over a 10,000% markup from the original producer to the end user. (heroin is 16833% markup from £450 to £75750 per kilo and cocaine is 15895% markup from £325 to £51659 per kilo)

So while there is a 413% mark-up from farm gate to consumer in the price of a legal drug, coffee, the percentage price mark-up for an illegal drug such as heroin can run into multiple thousands.

413/16833=0.02453

Reducing their profit to 2.45% of what it was simply by producing your own and STILL making a profit seems like a good idea to me. A war on the profits from drugs that has a negative cost AND works?

Unpossible.
2013-02-17 11:16:34 AM  
1 votes:

liquidpoo: 8ace: I submitted this purely for selfish reasons. I spent most of last year dealing with, and being convicted of, possession of class A and B drugs. In a bar with 0.4 grams of 5% cocaine which I hadn't touched. Subsequent search of my home led to discovery of trace amounts of grass (which i had touched) in empty baggies. I'm not a drug addict but I went out last year and bought sh*t coke and got busted. I smoke a joint about once a month. I'm a family man who had a weekend off and it led to the worst year of my life.

I believe a review of drug policy is badly needed.

How about just not doing drugs? Seems easy enough to me.


How about just not using the internet? Seems easy enough to me.
2013-02-17 11:03:46 AM  
1 votes:
I don't know if this applies to coke, but I've seen a suggestion that governments hand out free heroin to addicts who come forward and ask for it. Suddenly dealers don't have addicts to sell to and they have to get a different gig. If there's no dealers because there's free heroin then why are the criminal elements going to shoot at each other to control the heroin trade?

In short order you have few new addicts because there's no dealers offering it to start people up. And you have fewer OD's because the addicts you do have are shooting up with known concentrations.

Pot, OTOH, was criminalized for imagined sins by the same sort of people who got alcohol criminalized and the Klan.
2013-02-17 11:03:08 AM  
1 votes:
Won't SOMEBODY think of all those poor DEA agents who will lose their jerbs!?!

//oh wait, this is Britain.  They might have a chance at reasonable drug policy discussions.
///I'm a child of the 80's when the drug war got ramped up to WHARGARBLE and beyond levels.
////They taught us there were shady people looking to sell us heroin and crack on every street corner, and for some reason they always wore trenchcoats (I guess it helps carry more drugs?)
////All our DARE material had "America: Drug free by 2000" as a footnote on the bottom right corner.
//Sorry, I spoiled that footnote in 97 and haven't looked back
2013-02-17 10:01:15 AM  
1 votes:

Bontesla: Specifically African American women.


OK, I'll do the time.
2013-02-17 09:55:22 AM  
1 votes:

8ace: Klan member? I thought you only disproportionately locked-up African American people on minor charges.


Specifically African American women.
2013-02-17 09:42:45 AM  
1 votes:

cman: Preemptive strike on the inevitable direction of this thread:

The argument that organized crime will evaporate if we legalize drugs is complete horse shiat. Organized crime will exist as long as there is crime. They will just move onto other money making endeavors.

I want drugs legalized because I like them. I aint gonna bullshiat about that.


Guns too. But you forgot something there--legalizing and regulating drugs will not stop organized crime, but leaders of organized crime will have massive avenues of legitimate income, which only serves to legitimize them.


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You know what comes after legitimate business success.  And if you think nepotism is at a vulgar high in politics now, just wait until the cartels start floating candidates out.

/q&d
//facetious hyperbole
2013-02-17 09:06:41 AM  
1 votes:
I submitted this purely for selfish reasons. I spent most of last year dealing with, and being convicted of, possession of class A and B drugs. In a bar with 0.4 grams of 5% cocaine which I hadn't touched. Subsequent search of my home led to discovery of trace amounts of grass (which i had touched) in empty baggies. I'm not a drug addict but I went out last year and bought sh*t coke and got busted. I smoke a joint about once a month. I'm a family man who had a weekend off and it led to the worst year of my life.

I believe a review of drug policy is badly needed.
 
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