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2013-02-17 11:45:44 AM  

WhippingBoy: Snargi: I'm not going to put anything on my wrist that looks like a shackle though I'm sure the iFaithful will be lining up around the block to embrace such a visual sign of their servitude to Apple.

For every iThing you don't buy...

I'm going to buy three



Cribbing Maddox for Apple?  Why not just divide by zero?
 
2013-02-17 11:51:45 AM  
Samsung making a WP8 watch?
 
2013-02-17 12:12:45 PM  

Flint Ironstag: Stratohead: I'm not paying a could hundred dollars to have a watch that is basically nothing more than a Bluetooth answer /decline button for my multihundred dollar smart phone.  Maybe some people get so many farking phone calls they can't be bothered o actually touch the phone to answer and need this waste of technology and money, but I thought it was a retarded idea when Fossil introduced it nearly a decade ago.

Call me when someone makes a wrist smart phone that is in fact a farkING PHONE. ( not like the 2foot thick wrist phones the Chinese make with batteries that have to be changed every 2 hours either)

I think the watch that is Bluetoothed to my smartphone is a good idea. Especially when driving if my phone rings by the time I dig my phone out of my jeans pocket the caller has hung up. A glance at my watch to see the caller ID and to press Answer and talk handsfree would be great.  Text messages, emails, calendar reminders etc etc Being able to deal with them without having to dig my phone out of my pocket would be spiffy.

As a mere Bluetooth device with a LCD b+w screen there is no way it should cost anywhere near $200. Unless it is made by Apple of course.


Well the nicer metawatch is 200 bucks. The sony smartwatch can be had for 99. So I think future smartwatches will retail in the 100-200 dollar range. I actually expect apple to go above this and try to charge 250, because they are apple. The samsung one in the article will likely retail for 200.
 
2013-02-17 12:22:24 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-17 12:23:30 PM  
If it can do what my watch does I`ll get one.
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2013-02-17 12:25:39 PM  

BumpInTheNight: dumbobruni: Terrible Old Man: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

Real men carry watches just like they carry pocketknives. We don't carry cell phones because we're too damned busy doing things with our hands, not acting like women.

real men break concealed weapons laws?

Real men are giving you an incredulous look like you just shat on the carpet then wiped yourself with the drapes.


I've been carrying a pocketknife every day for about 20 years, and the same Benchmade one for about 15 years or so now. I'd feel naked without it, and no it's not illegal.

As far as Bluetooth watches go - I'd like one very much that could do things like display caller ID, display text messages and control my media player. I even own one, the Sony Liveview, which unfortunately turned out to be a completely unstable failure of execution by Sony. One that works stably though I'd be all over. Anyone have one of those Pebble ones? Does it crash a lot?
 
2013-02-17 12:31:44 PM  
 
2013-02-17 12:33:06 PM  

Terrible Old Man: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

Real men carry watches just like they carry pocketknives. We don't carry cell phones because we're too damned busy doing things with our hands, not acting like women.


You, I like the cut of your jib.

/ Great Eastern 1865 in pocket
// Tag Heuer Aquaracer on wrist
 
2013-02-17 12:33:55 PM  
I second the G-shock thing.  Highly durable and reliable.  iPhones are as fragile as hell.  Why would I want a watch that breaks if it smacks the corner of a door?
 
2013-02-17 12:52:05 PM  
The only way I'd wear a "smart-watch" is if it was elegant and understated (sorry, "Pebble").
There's no way someone over 18 should wear something that screams "look what I'm wearing!"
 
2013-02-17 12:55:12 PM  

JMacPA: Well that article was a whole lot of nothing other the a pebble fanboy (those exist?) wanting some hits.

Also, where did the whole "you have to invent a completely new class of product every year or else you've failed as a company" mantra come from?


Probably 3M but they are badass like that.
 
2013-02-17 01:15:50 PM  

Terrible Old Man: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

Real men carry watches just like they carry pocketknives. We don't carry cell phones because we're too damned busy doing things with our hands, not acting like women.


You are farking awesome and I would like to join your club...
 
2013-02-17 01:24:22 PM  

WhippingBoy: The only way I'd wear a "smart-watch" is if it was elegant and understated (sorry, "Pebble").
There's no way someone over 18 should wear something that screams "look what I'm wearing!"


I think the Pebble in black looks fine.  Not particularly sophisticated, but it's certainly not something that'd make me look twice one way or the other.

What I really like is that you can apparently set it to display the time in plain English (e.g. "eleven thirty-five").  I don't know why, but I think that's really cool.
 
2013-02-17 01:30:56 PM  
FTFA Ready for some hard-core speculation built solidly on rumor founded squarely on innuendo?

No.
 
2013-02-17 01:32:15 PM  
Apple is not going to release an iWatch for two reasons.  Fewer people are wearing watches anymore and all this speculation is coming from men.  An iWatch has no appeal to women.

/move along - nothing to see here
 
2013-02-17 01:41:49 PM  
The Pebble smartwatch seems pretty interesting:

d2brbg16830x6.cloudfront.net
 
2013-02-17 02:00:37 PM  

gingerjet: Apple is not going to release an iWatch for two reasons.  Fewer people are wearing watches anymore and all this speculation is coming from men.  An iWatch has no appeal to women.

/move along - nothing to see here


If Apple announced an iCathater would be released in April, 10 million idiots fans would line up this afternoon to get one, just because it has the fruit logo on it.
 
2013-02-17 02:12:31 PM  

Witty_Retort: gingerjet: Apple is not going to release an iWatch for two reasons.  Fewer people are wearing watches anymore and all this speculation is coming from men.  An iWatch has no appeal to women.

/move along - nothing to see here

If Apple announced an iCathater would be released in April, 10 million idiots fans would line up this afternoon to get one, just because it has the fruit logo on it.


Count me and the wife as people who won't blindly buy iproducts anymore.  A few years ago we bought a bunch of those shuffles but never got a single reaction from them, ended up throwing them all out and just buying one of those no-name tests instead, right away it said she was pregnant and it was right.

/little Kaeden-Brice was born later that year
//her little brother came along the next year
 
2013-02-17 02:55:36 PM  

Witty_Retort: gingerjet: Apple is not going to release an iWatch for two reasons.  Fewer people are wearing watches anymore and all this speculation is coming from men.  An iWatch has no appeal to women.

/move along - nothing to see here

If Apple announced an iCathater would be released in April, 10 million idiots fans would line up this afternoon to get one, just because it has the fruit logo on it.


April eh? Where did you hear this? Is this a credible rumour? (I hope so)
 
2013-02-17 03:32:18 PM  

PsyLord: The Pebble smartwatch seems pretty interesting:

[d2brbg16830x6.cloudfront.net image 387x251]


I was thinking the same thing.
 
2013-02-17 03:58:48 PM  
What the frak?! The one time where patent laws actually make sense, and both Apple/Samsung are just bullying Pebble out of their idea.  I can see it now: Pebble finally comes out, and then one of the big boys sues Pebble for the patent they own.  This whole thing is playing out like intermittent wipers.

/no, I don't know who holds what patents, but Pebble was first, dammit
 
2013-02-17 04:26:42 PM  

blue_2501: but Pebble was first, dammit


Well, to a degree,  Google was. And I'm sure we can find a library of similar smart-watch patents. That was just the first one I stumbled across. Whether Pebble runs afoul of any of them or not, who knows? That is a problem, of course, but I have a sense that if anybody's going to come out of the woodwork with a submarine patent, it's going to be something which originated in Palm's portfolio.

//I also think the Pebble is a  terrible idea, but hey, whatever.
 
2013-02-17 04:49:47 PM  

dumbobruni: Terrible Old Man: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

Real men carry watches just like they carry pocketknives. We don't carry cell phones because we're too damned busy doing things with our hands, not acting like women.

real men break concealed weapons laws?


Real men want to douse you in whiskey sours before dumping you in your driveway so your loved ones can smell why you're such a candy-ass.
 
2013-02-17 05:24:55 PM  
I really don't get the interest in this. (Or how many of you have such huge pockets that it is difficult for you to find/get to your phone.)  I think watches are ugly, and I have particularly tiny wrists (I can't wear standard women's bracelets for the most part because they're so small) so I really have no interest/in use for a product that would look ridiculous on me, anyway.

But ignoring my own tiny wrists, I want to know why everything has to be called "smart" these days.  I can't stand when I hear people say "smart phone" - it's a phone. If you want to buy a phone made in the last 5 years or so, it's a so-called "smart phone."  So just call it a phone. (In addition to small wrists, I have a lot of language peeves.)

Regardless of all above, I don't see any way for this to be a practical or desirable device for most people.  Even on my phone, I don't really use the e-mail or Internet for anything but reading if I am somewhere really boring, like stuck in a long line or waiting for someone who is late.  Typing is a huge pain, as well, and I can't see that even slightly improving on a watch.  Plus, it would be bulky and ugly on even the biggest hands/wrists, wouldn't it?
 
2013-02-17 05:53:37 PM  
So now Apple is taking ideas from independent business men?  You can buy straps for your iPod nano.

lh3.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-02-17 06:20:32 PM  

serpent_sky: I can't stand when I hear people say "smart phone" - it's a phone.


I can understand the objection to calling it a "smart phone", but it is not a phone, any more than my computer is a phone. I can use both of them to call people (voice or video), but just because they can make calls doesn't make them phones.

Seriously, the least important feature of my cellphone is anything having to do with making calls.
 
2013-02-17 06:40:39 PM  

JMacPA: Well that article was a whole lot of nothing other the a pebble fanboy (those exist?) wanting some hits.


Their statement about Pebble was even wrong:

That title, and that honor [of being the innovators in smartwatches], belongs to the tiny groups of dedicated people like Pebble....

Yeah, Sony had the smart watch (actually called a SmartWatch) for a year before Pebble. And if I'm not mistaken, Pebble still isn't out yet.
 
2013-02-17 06:46:56 PM  

t3knomanser: serpent_sky: I can't stand when I hear people say "smart phone" - it's a phone.

I can understand the objection to calling it a "smart phone", but it is not a phone, any more than my computer is a phone. I can use both of them to call people (voice or video), but just because they can make calls doesn't make them phones.

Seriously, the least important feature of my cellphone is anything having to do with making calls.


And the most important feature is the vibration.
 
2013-02-17 06:50:21 PM  

t3knomanser: serpent_sky: I can't stand when I hear people say "smart phone" - it's a phone.

I can understand the objection to calling it a "smart phone", but it is not a phone, any more than my computer is a phone. I can use both of them to call people (voice or video), but just because they can make calls doesn't make them phones.

Seriously, the least important feature of my cellphone is anything having to do with making calls.


True, I use my phone to text more than anything - personal and business.  I rarely make phone calls unless it has become too much of a conversation for text, and I don't have access to e-mail/Facebook.  The only exceptions are specific work calls and my dad, who isn't really a tech guy.  I don't know, though. The phrase "smart phone" just bugs me every time I hear it.  Like that commercial for some service that can handle "dad's smart phone, sue's tablet, johnnys smart phone, mom's smart phone, the dog's smart phone..."  I just want to scream at it to stop saying smart phone.   First world problems and all.
 
2013-02-17 07:22:09 PM  

jonterry4: JMacPA: Well that article was a whole lot of nothing other the a pebble fanboy (those exist?) wanting some hits.

Their statement about Pebble was even wrong:

That title, and that honor [of being the innovators in smartwatches], belongs to the tiny groups of dedicated people like Pebble....

Yeah, Sony had the smart watch (actually called a SmartWatch) for a year before Pebble. And if I'm not mistaken, Pebble still isn't out yet.

Some pebbles started shipping (apparently) at the end of January and I have seen reviews of them. I second the smartwatch. I have one and with the Augmented smartwatch pro app (a guy who is really, really into smartwatches made it) it is actually quite usable, though it has a tendency to not want to charge (the stupid pins don't always make contact).  Pebble was actually also beat to the market by the Metawatch, though I haven't heard good things about it (apparently their iOS support is somewhat lacking).
 
2013-02-17 07:33:11 PM  
What I really want is a giant, gold "smart" medallion, to accent my chest hair...
 
2013-02-17 07:53:10 PM  

taurusowner: You're an idiot. There are plenty of occasions where a watch works better than a phone. When your phone dies. While doing water sports. I personally use mine at work as a cop and overseas with the Army where I don't have my phone at all. Simply checking the time quickly without an expensive device that loses power in a day and dies if it touches water is still a useful thing.


If I'm doing watersports I don't carry a time piece period. I'm not on dialysis, I'll come back when I'm tired of having fun.  My phone doesn't die. I keep it charged.  I can use it heavily for phone, music, texting, and moderately for internet in a 24 hour period.  If I do nothing but leave it in my pocket and check time with it...it lasts 2-3 days on a charge.

And what a surprise, the guy who's amazing retort is 'you're an idiot' to a calm and rational post is...a cop/military guy.  I'm sure you'll tell us how we all need to carry K-bars and buy glocks or some shiat too? Oh, and we need kevlar too! Because clearly what's good for the military is good for everyone in civilian life! There couldn't possibly be a reason to carry task specific gear into hostile environments which wasn't remotely on-par with the current discusion anyway because you found existant applications for it!

Just because there are valid uses for it for a tiny demographic, does not mean it's not outdated technology.
 
2013-02-17 08:24:30 PM  

kroonermanblack: taurusowner: You're an idiot. There are plenty of occasions where a watch works better than a phone. When your phone dies. While doing water sports. I personally use mine at work as a cop and overseas with the Army where I don't have my phone at all. Simply checking the time quickly without an expensive device that loses power in a day and dies if it touches water is still a useful thing.

If I'm doing watersports I don't carry a time piece period. I'm not on dialysis, I'll come back when I'm tired of having fun. My phone doesn't die. I keep it charged.  I can use it heavily for phone, music, texting, and moderately for internet in a 24 hour period.  If I do nothing but leave it in my pocket and check time with it...it lasts 2-3 days on a charge.

And what a surprise, the guy who's amazing retort is 'you're an idiot' to a calm and rational post is...a cop/military guy.  I'm sure you'll tell us how we all need to carry K-bars and buy glocks or some shiat too? Oh, and we need kevlar too! Because clearly what's good for the military is good for everyone in civilian life! There couldn't possibly be a reason to carry task specific gear into hostile environments which wasn't remotely on-par with the current discusion anyway because you found existant applications for it!

Just because there are valid uses for it for a tiny demographic, does not mean it's not outdated technology.


For most people who do watersports some way of telling the time is important. Tides, sundown, air supply, navigation, fuel endurance etc. People have died because they were trapped by incoming tides, for example. Even a simple telling someone the time you will return so they can send out a search party if you are late.
 
2013-02-17 08:57:16 PM  

Flint Ironstag: For most people who do watersports some way of telling the time is important. Tides, sundown, air supply, navigation, fuel endurance etc. People have died because they were trapped by incoming tides, for example. Even a simple telling someone the time you will return so they can send out a search party if you are late.


That's pretty hardcore dude, the most precautionary stuff I tend to do is lay out some tarp and have some see-through bags for the imaging gear, just in case it migrates beyond the bathroom.
 
2013-02-17 09:21:12 PM  

taurusowner: Part of the reason I wear a watch is because it's always there and I only have to change the battery annually.


I'm not even willing to do an annual battery change. The watch I usually wear is an automatic-winding mechanical movement, and my other one is a solar-powered Casio Pathfinder.
 
2013-02-17 09:29:06 PM  

BumpInTheNight: Flint Ironstag: For most people who do watersports some way of telling the time is important. Tides, sundown, air supply, navigation, fuel endurance etc. People have died because they were trapped by incoming tides, for example. Even a simple telling someone the time you will return so they can send out a search party if you are late.

That's pretty hardcore dude, the most precautionary stuff I tend to do is lay out some tarp and have some see-through bags for the imaging gear, just in case it migrates beyond the bathroom.


My toilet is tidal. If you get the timing wrong....
 
2013-02-18 11:59:58 PM  
If it were up to me to redesign the watch. I would have the watch face be mostly a touchscreen input device.  I would have 3 physical buttons around the edge of the watch face to ease navigation and prevent clutter.  The watch itself would mostly be storage/battery.  The viewing screen would be a flexible display folded into the wristband.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3E7fUynrZU  You would release a catch on the bottom of your wrist then unfold it to a viewing size similar to current phones.

I would also look into inductive charging.  At night before going to bed you take your watch off and rest it on the charging station, no need to fuss with plugging it in.  At work, or wherever you spend most your time plug a charging station into the wall and whenever you're at your desk or standing close enough to the station it tops your watch.

The watch strap without the flexible display would have a female USB cable that you can detach from the watch strap on the side without the flexible display. The main purpose would be to plug into your cell phone or computer to transfer data. (music, games, movies, e-books,)
 
2013-02-20 03:15:03 PM  
I just want a phone that is fastened to me somehow so I won`t lose the damn thing anymore.
 
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