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2013-02-17 06:37:54 AM
www.rei.com
It'll be a cold day in hell when an Apple product gets between me and my trusty G-SHOCK
 
2013-02-17 06:52:02 AM
"We were the first to come up with this idea and others stole it from us"

I can see it now

//used to own a g-shock until it died, 15 years after I got it.
 
2013-02-17 07:09:45 AM
I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?
 
2013-02-17 07:20:32 AM
Samsung and apple are making over priced ugly wrist watches? Where do I sign up?
 
2013-02-17 07:23:50 AM

Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?


To ensure muggers are able to see your expensive hardware instead of risking that you might not have something worthwhile in your pocket or bag?
 
2013-02-17 07:27:59 AM
the multi purpose Leila wrist bracelet is way overdue.
 
2013-02-17 07:40:37 AM

Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?




Well.... Because Apple.

Geesh
 
2013-02-17 07:43:48 AM
Well that article was a whole lot of nothing other the a pebble fanboy (those exist?) wanting some hits.

Also, where did the whole "you have to invent a completely new class of product every year or else you've failed as a company" mantra come from?
 
2013-02-17 07:46:40 AM

Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?


Because you don't really need the cellphone?
 
2013-02-17 07:52:07 AM
So their source is random pictures from a Korean messageboard that just shows alleged pictures on the operating system without any pictures of the actual watch?

Seems legit.
 
2013-02-17 07:58:59 AM
i46.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-17 08:00:50 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

Well.... Because Apple.

Geesh


shutupandtakemymoney.jpg
 
2013-02-17 08:08:03 AM
Someone owes Chester Gould a dollar.

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-17 08:08:25 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

Well.... Because Apple.

Geesh


Your hate for Apple is rivaled only by the GOP's hate for a black POTUS.
 
2013-02-17 08:08:46 AM
So the iWatch is just vaporware to try to stop people from buying a competitor's product? Holy shiat, they're pulling a Microsoft!
 
2013-02-17 08:57:35 AM

digistil: Your hate for Apple is rivaled only by the GOP's hate for a black POTUS.


You forgot to somehow work in Nazis.

JMacPA: Also, where did the whole "you have to invent a completely new class of product every year or else you've failed as a company" mantra come from?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence
 
2013-02-17 09:00:42 AM

Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?


I can't speak for anyone else, but I usually walk around with my phone buried in an inside pocket of my suit jacket (which during the winter is underneath a buttoned-up topcoat) and only have a pair of headphones with a microphone sticking out so I can listen to my music and take calls.  So while yes, there is a clock on my phone, if I'm out and about it's faster and easier to turn my wrist than to dig out my phone, check the time, and put it away again.

Plus, I find it to be much more difficult to be suave and/or discreet when checking the time on a phone.  If I'm meeting with a client, the last thing I want to do is to look impatient.
 
2013-02-17 09:02:27 AM

EngineerAU: digistil: Your hate for Apple is rivaled only by the GOP's hate for a black POTUS.

You forgot to somehow work in Nazis.


?
 
2013-02-17 09:12:00 AM

Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?


This and if I need a fancy dress watch I have my Seiko and my Tag, I don't see any reason for this hunk of shiat to be on my wrist just so I can break it in a few days.
 
2013-02-17 09:14:06 AM

Robo Beat: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

I can't speak for anyone else, but I usually walk around with my phone buried in an inside pocket of my suit jacket (which during the winter is underneath a buttoned-up topcoat) and only have a pair of headphones with a microphone sticking out so I can listen to my music and take calls.  So while yes, there is a clock on my phone, if I'm out and about it's faster and easier to turn my wrist than to dig out my phone, check the time, and put it away again.

Plus, I find it to be much more difficult to be suave and/or discreet when checking the time on a phone.  If I'm meeting with a client, the last thing I want to do is to look impatient.


If you are meeting with clients you sure as fark aren't going to have this toy on your wrist, unless you're a toy salesman.
 
2013-02-17 09:18:36 AM
The Pebble watch seems far more practical, namely for their use of e-ink. I would guess both the Samsung and Apple watches will have full color screens and need to be charged often enough to make it a hassle. An e-ink display would be far less of a chore. Part of the reason I wear a watch is because it's always there and I only have to change the battery annually. Taking my watch off every night to charge is just not worth it.
 
2013-02-17 09:22:27 AM

EngineerAU: digistil: Your hate for Apple is rivaled only by the GOP's hate for a black POTUS.

You forgot to somehow work in Nazis.

JMacPA: Also, where did the whole "you have to invent a completely new class of product every year or else you've failed as a company" mantra come from?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence


I know what planned obsolescence is.  But recently the thinking seems that if Samsung and Apple or Google or whoever isn't coming up with something no one has even thought of doing before (not just improving last years model) they have ceased to be relevant.
 
2013-02-17 09:23:54 AM

steamingpile: Robo Beat: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

I can't speak for anyone else, but I usually walk around with my phone buried in an inside pocket of my suit jacket (which during the winter is underneath a buttoned-up topcoat) and only have a pair of headphones with a microphone sticking out so I can listen to my music and take calls.  So while yes, there is a clock on my phone, if I'm out and about it's faster and easier to turn my wrist than to dig out my phone, check the time, and put it away again.

Plus, I find it to be much more difficult to be suave and/or discreet when checking the time on a phone.  If I'm meeting with a client, the last thing I want to do is to look impatient.

If you are meeting with clients you sure as fark aren't going to have this toy on your wrist, unless you're a toy salesman.


Well, no, perhaps that wasn't clear.  I'll wear my stainless-steel Citizen, or if it's a really big deal I'll borrow one of the partners' fancy Swiss pieces.  The watches in TFA would probably look quite silly outside of certain narrow contexts.

/Casio G-Shock for when I'm exercising.
 
2013-02-17 09:30:27 AM

JMacPA: EngineerAU: digistil: Your hate for Apple is rivaled only by the GOP's hate for a black POTUS.

You forgot to somehow work in Nazis.

JMacPA: Also, where did the whole "you have to invent a completely new class of product every year or else you've failed as a company" mantra come from?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence

I know what planned obsolescence is.  But recently the thinking seems that if Samsung and Apple or Google or whoever isn't coming up with something no one has even thought of doing before (not just improving last years model) they have ceased to be relevant.


that's the textbook definition of a bubble bursting right there
 
2013-02-17 09:36:21 AM

steamingpile: Robo Beat: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

I can't speak for anyone else, but I usually walk around with my phone buried in an inside pocket of my suit jacket (which during the winter is underneath a buttoned-up topcoat) and only have a pair of headphones with a microphone sticking out so I can listen to my music and take calls.  So while yes, there is a clock on my phone, if I'm out and about it's faster and easier to turn my wrist than to dig out my phone, check the time, and put it away again.

Plus, I find it to be much more difficult to be suave and/or discreet when checking the time on a phone.  If I'm meeting with a client, the last thing I want to do is to look impatient.

If you are meeting with clients you sure as fark aren't going to have this toy on your wrist, unless you're a toy salesman.


Well I'm a programmer.  I rarely meet with clients.  If I do, I probably have my cellphone on the desk.  Plus a laptop open.  And there is probably a clock on the wall as well.  On top of which, I don't really need to know the exact time that often.

If I'm anywhere else, I have the phone in a holster and it's really easy to get the phone out.  Not as easy as glancing at a wrist, but still pretty easy.

I just hate wearing jewelry of any kind.  I wore a wedding ring for about the first year after I got married, and then couldn't stand it any more.  Watches drive me up a tree.  I can't understand why they don't have the effect on everybody.
 
2013-02-17 09:41:49 AM

steamingpile: Robo Beat: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

I can't speak for anyone else, but I usually walk around with my phone buried in an inside pocket of my suit jacket (which during the winter is underneath a buttoned-up topcoat) and only have a pair of headphones with a microphone sticking out so I can listen to my music and take calls.  So while yes, there is a clock on my phone, if I'm out and about it's faster and easier to turn my wrist than to dig out my phone, check the time, and put it away again.

Plus, I find it to be much more difficult to be suave and/or discreet when checking the time on a phone.  If I'm meeting with a client, the last thing I want to do is to look impatient.

If you are meeting with clients you sure as fark aren't going to have this toy on your wrist, unless you're a toy salesman.


There is not 'discreet' way to check time with clients.  If you're checking time, people are noticing. rolling your wrist to check and flashing your antiquated bling is no more or less than whipping out the phone.  You could easily say 'I'm sorry, my wife is sick, I had to check her text' or some other bullshiat.

You LIKE having a watch. That's fine.  It's still outdated technology.  Hell, there are even circles where you 'have' to have a watch to do business, it's a boys-club thing, like needing the 3-piece armani and the overpriced car and trophy wife.  It's just part of doing business.  But it still doesn't mean there's a logical reason for it, any more than there is for ties.
 
2013-02-17 09:46:04 AM

kroonermanblack: steamingpile: Robo Beat: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

I can't speak for anyone else, but I usually walk around with my phone buried in an inside pocket of my suit jacket (which during the winter is underneath a buttoned-up topcoat) and only have a pair of headphones with a microphone sticking out so I can listen to my music and take calls.  So while yes, there is a clock on my phone, if I'm out and about it's faster and easier to turn my wrist than to dig out my phone, check the time, and put it away again.

Plus, I find it to be much more difficult to be suave and/or discreet when checking the time on a phone.  If I'm meeting with a client, the last thing I want to do is to look impatient.

If you are meeting with clients you sure as fark aren't going to have this toy on your wrist, unless you're a toy salesman.

There is not 'discreet' way to check time with clients.  If you're checking time, people are noticing. rolling your wrist to check and flashing your antiquated bling is no more or less than whipping out the phone.  You could easily say 'I'm sorry, my wife is sick, I had to check her text' or some other bullshiat.

You LIKE having a watch. That's fine.  It's still outdated technology.  Hell, there are even circles where you 'have' to have a watch to do business, it's a boys-club thing, like needing the 3-piece armani and the overpriced car and trophy wife.  It's just part of doing business.  But it still doesn't mean there's a logical reason for it, any more than there is for ties.


You're an idiot. There are plenty of occasions where a watch works better than a phone. When your phone dies. While doing water sports. I personally use mine at work as a cop and overseas with the Army where I don't have my phone at all. Simply checking the time quickly without an expensive device that loses power in a day and dies if it touches water is still a useful thing.
 
2013-02-17 09:47:36 AM

kroonermanblack: There is not 'discreet' way to check time with clients.


Set alarm at 15 minute intervals. Set notification to be vibrate. Phone vibrates and if it's in a pocket they don't even notice it.
 
2013-02-17 09:50:09 AM

Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?


Real men carry watches just like they carry pocketknives. We don't carry cell phones because we're too damned busy doing things with our hands, not acting like women.
 
2013-02-17 09:52:22 AM
I found an Apple-branded iWatch that a developer "lost" in a San Jose bar last week. Didn't alert the media, just tossed it in the drawer at home. I went back two days later and found another one. What are the odds?
 
2013-02-17 10:04:11 AM
Well, that was a whole lot of unfounded speculation for an article.  It did have this howler of a line though:

Samsung's growing wall of innovation.
 
2013-02-17 10:09:03 AM
Shrinking a cell down so it fits on your wrist will probably just give you a crappier signal, fewer functions, and lower battery life in one convenient package.
 
2013-02-17 10:12:00 AM

Terrible Old Man: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

Real men carry watches just like they carry pocketknives. We don't carry cell phones because we're too damned busy doing things with our hands, not acting like women.


real men break concealed weapons laws?
 
2013-02-17 10:21:04 AM

dumbobruni: Terrible Old Man: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

Real men carry watches just like they carry pocketknives. We don't carry cell phones because we're too damned busy doing things with our hands, not acting like women.

real men break concealed weapons laws?


Not in free countries and states. Carrying a pocketknife is a natural and responsible as a tire jack in the car and smoke detectors in the house. It's a tool. I've used my pocketknife hundreds of times. Never stabbed anyone though. It's no more of a weapon than a baseball bat is a club. Both resemble things that used to be common weapons hundreds of years ago but now are common tools for everyday uses/sport. Sure they can be used as weapons. So can anything. I can hit you over the head with my printer. That doesn't make it weapon.

Try thinking instead of feeling next time. You might be surprised how the world looks through a sensible mind and not a scared heart.
 
2013-02-17 10:22:30 AM

dumbobruni: Terrible Old Man: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

Real men carry watches just like they carry pocketknives. We don't carry cell phones because we're too damned busy doing things with our hands, not acting like women.

real men break concealed weapons laws?


Where the hell do you live???  Even California doesn't ban carrying pocketknives.
 
2013-02-17 10:24:00 AM
He might be a British subject. They ban pocketknives.

\I'm glad I'm a citizen and not a subject
\\Having rights is awesome
 
2013-02-17 10:30:25 AM

Lyonid: Where the hell do you live??? Even California doesn't ban carrying pocketknives.


Maybe he thinks all pocketknives are switchblades.

The gov't hasn't quite found a way to effectively ban people from carrying something sharp in public locations. They've only banned carrying certain methods of attaching sharp objects to handles .
 
2013-02-17 10:51:24 AM

dumbobruni: Terrible Old Man: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

Real men carry watches just like they carry pocketknives. We don't carry cell phones because we're too damned busy doing things with our hands, not acting like women.

real men break concealed weapons laws?


Real men are giving you an incredulous look like you just shat on the carpet then wiped yourself with the drapes.
 
2013-02-17 10:54:40 AM
I'm not paying a could hundred dollars to have a watch that is basically nothing more than a Bluetooth answer /decline button for my multihundred dollar smart phone.  Maybe some people get so many farking phone calls they can't be bothered o actually touch the phone to answer and need this waste of technology and money, but I thought it was a retarded idea when Fossil introduced it nearly a decade ago.

Call me when someone makes a wrist smart phone that is in fact a farkING PHONE. ( not like the 2foot thick wrist phones the Chinese make with batteries that have to be changed every 2 hours either)
 
2013-02-17 11:01:03 AM
www.coolfunpics.com
 
2013-02-17 11:01:23 AM

digistil: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

Well.... Because Apple.

Geesh

Your hate for Apple is rivaled only by the GOP's hate for a black POTUS.


Congrats on threadshiatting.  Here is your trophy.
adnauseous.com
 
2013-02-17 11:04:42 AM

Smeggy Smurf: digistil: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

Well.... Because Apple.

Geesh

Your hate for Apple is rivaled only by the GOP's hate for a black POTUS.

Congrats on threadshiatting.  Here is your trophy.
[adnauseous.com image 375x375]


I am amused how he and bingethinker posted back to back.  now all we need is gingerjet to show up for an apple fellating hat trick.
 
2013-02-17 11:13:26 AM
I'm not going to put anything on my wrist that looks like a shackle though I'm sure the iFaithful will be lining up around the block to embrace such a visual sign of their servitude to Apple.
 
2013-02-17 11:16:03 AM

Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?


I have a sony smartwatch. It's not perfect, but having the ability to see if as call is important or not (useful if you have a toddler in daycare who may or may not get sick at any given time and need to be picked up in <1 hour) and to silence a call while my cellphone is in my pocket makes it worth it. Then again it is really only useful if you have a job where checking your cellphone would be considered inappropriate.  It also receives texts and emails, which is somewhat cool as well. The sony smartwatch is a bit clunky so if someone comes out with an improved smart watch I will probably pick it up.
 
2013-02-17 11:19:32 AM

taurusowner: The Pebble watch seems far more practical, namely for their use of e-ink. I would guess both the Samsung and Apple watches will have full color screens and need to be charged often enough to make it a hassle. An e-ink display would be far less of a chore. Part of the reason I wear a watch is because it's always there and I only have to change the battery annually. Taking my watch off every night to charge is just not worth it.


Based on my Sony watch a color OLED screen has the potential to last 3-5 days, but won't be very readable in sunlight. Of course apple/samsung could go with mirasol or some other exotic display tech and still have the "epaper" (the pebble isn't really epaper btw, it still always uses energy to display the screen, it is just a high contrast B&W LCD that is readable in sunlight) properties.
 
2013-02-17 11:27:56 AM

Snargi: I'm not going to put anything on my wrist that looks like a shackle though I'm sure the iFaithful will be lining up around the block to embrace such a visual sign of their servitude to Apple.


For every iThing you don't buy...

I'm going to buy three
 
2013-02-17 11:30:11 AM

dumbobruni: Terrible Old Man: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

Real men carry watches just like they carry pocketknives. We don't carry cell phones because we're too damned busy doing things with our hands, not acting like women.

real men break concealed weapons laws?


Even in "nanny state" UK it's legal to carry penknives, leatherman's, etc. Bigger knives are 'subject to reasonable use', so a six inch knife if you are a chef travelling home from work or on a camping trip is perfectly legal. A six inch bowie knife while trying to enter a nightclub or a football match is an offensive weapon.
 
2013-02-17 11:32:08 AM
I'll stick with my 10 year old Citizen Eco-Drive for a watch.

Recharges by any light source while I'm wearing it and I don't have to turn it off while the airplane is in the air or taking off or whatever.

I've only had one problem with it, somehow some moisture broke the seal but I sent it back and they warranty fixed it.

The only gripe I have is that for a titanium watch which is pretty much indestructible, the stupid band pins are aluminum and have a tendency to break.  Oh well.

Sure it cost $300, but it's still working and most likely will continue to work for quite some time without having to deal with OS upgrades and viruses.
 
2013-02-17 11:34:39 AM

taurusowner: He might be a British subject. They ban pocketknives.

\I'm glad I'm a citizen and not a subject
\\Having rights is awesome


Cite? 'Cos I live here and I've never heard that.


/And most of your rights are copied straight from our rights, which many come from Magna Carta in 1215. Right to trial by jury? Magna Carta. Right to see evidence? Magna Carta. No detention without speedy trial? Magna carta.
I don't have to carry any ID when driving. Hell, my driving licence hasn't even got my picture on it, though they're going to change that in a couple of years.
 
2013-02-17 11:39:43 AM

Stratohead: I'm not paying a could hundred dollars to have a watch that is basically nothing more than a Bluetooth answer /decline button for my multihundred dollar smart phone.  Maybe some people get so many farking phone calls they can't be bothered o actually touch the phone to answer and need this waste of technology and money, but I thought it was a retarded idea when Fossil introduced it nearly a decade ago.

Call me when someone makes a wrist smart phone that is in fact a farkING PHONE. ( not like the 2foot thick wrist phones the Chinese make with batteries that have to be changed every 2 hours either)


I think the watch that is Bluetoothed to my smartphone is a good idea. Especially when driving if my phone rings by the time I dig my phone out of my jeans pocket the caller has hung up. A glance at my watch to see the caller ID and to press Answer and talk handsfree would be great.  Text messages, emails, calendar reminders etc etc Being able to deal with them without having to dig my phone out of my pocket would be spiffy.

As a mere Bluetooth device with a LCD b+w screen there is no way it should cost anywhere near $200. Unless it is made by Apple of course.
 
2013-02-17 11:45:44 AM

WhippingBoy: Snargi: I'm not going to put anything on my wrist that looks like a shackle though I'm sure the iFaithful will be lining up around the block to embrace such a visual sign of their servitude to Apple.

For every iThing you don't buy...

I'm going to buy three



Cribbing Maddox for Apple?  Why not just divide by zero?
 
2013-02-17 11:51:45 AM
Samsung making a WP8 watch?
 
2013-02-17 12:12:45 PM

Flint Ironstag: Stratohead: I'm not paying a could hundred dollars to have a watch that is basically nothing more than a Bluetooth answer /decline button for my multihundred dollar smart phone.  Maybe some people get so many farking phone calls they can't be bothered o actually touch the phone to answer and need this waste of technology and money, but I thought it was a retarded idea when Fossil introduced it nearly a decade ago.

Call me when someone makes a wrist smart phone that is in fact a farkING PHONE. ( not like the 2foot thick wrist phones the Chinese make with batteries that have to be changed every 2 hours either)

I think the watch that is Bluetoothed to my smartphone is a good idea. Especially when driving if my phone rings by the time I dig my phone out of my jeans pocket the caller has hung up. A glance at my watch to see the caller ID and to press Answer and talk handsfree would be great.  Text messages, emails, calendar reminders etc etc Being able to deal with them without having to dig my phone out of my pocket would be spiffy.

As a mere Bluetooth device with a LCD b+w screen there is no way it should cost anywhere near $200. Unless it is made by Apple of course.


Well the nicer metawatch is 200 bucks. The sony smartwatch can be had for 99. So I think future smartwatches will retail in the 100-200 dollar range. I actually expect apple to go above this and try to charge 250, because they are apple. The samsung one in the article will likely retail for 200.
 
2013-02-17 12:22:24 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-17 12:23:30 PM
If it can do what my watch does I`ll get one.
image.ec21.com
 
2013-02-17 12:25:39 PM

BumpInTheNight: dumbobruni: Terrible Old Man: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

Real men carry watches just like they carry pocketknives. We don't carry cell phones because we're too damned busy doing things with our hands, not acting like women.

real men break concealed weapons laws?

Real men are giving you an incredulous look like you just shat on the carpet then wiped yourself with the drapes.


I've been carrying a pocketknife every day for about 20 years, and the same Benchmade one for about 15 years or so now. I'd feel naked without it, and no it's not illegal.

As far as Bluetooth watches go - I'd like one very much that could do things like display caller ID, display text messages and control my media player. I even own one, the Sony Liveview, which unfortunately turned out to be a completely unstable failure of execution by Sony. One that works stably though I'd be all over. Anyone have one of those Pebble ones? Does it crash a lot?
 
2013-02-17 12:31:44 PM
 
2013-02-17 12:33:06 PM

Terrible Old Man: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

Real men carry watches just like they carry pocketknives. We don't carry cell phones because we're too damned busy doing things with our hands, not acting like women.


You, I like the cut of your jib.

/ Great Eastern 1865 in pocket
// Tag Heuer Aquaracer on wrist
 
2013-02-17 12:33:55 PM
I second the G-shock thing.  Highly durable and reliable.  iPhones are as fragile as hell.  Why would I want a watch that breaks if it smacks the corner of a door?
 
2013-02-17 12:52:05 PM
The only way I'd wear a "smart-watch" is if it was elegant and understated (sorry, "Pebble").
There's no way someone over 18 should wear something that screams "look what I'm wearing!"
 
2013-02-17 12:55:12 PM

JMacPA: Well that article was a whole lot of nothing other the a pebble fanboy (those exist?) wanting some hits.

Also, where did the whole "you have to invent a completely new class of product every year or else you've failed as a company" mantra come from?


Probably 3M but they are badass like that.
 
2013-02-17 01:15:50 PM

Terrible Old Man: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

Real men carry watches just like they carry pocketknives. We don't carry cell phones because we're too damned busy doing things with our hands, not acting like women.


You are farking awesome and I would like to join your club...
 
2013-02-17 01:24:22 PM

WhippingBoy: The only way I'd wear a "smart-watch" is if it was elegant and understated (sorry, "Pebble").
There's no way someone over 18 should wear something that screams "look what I'm wearing!"


I think the Pebble in black looks fine.  Not particularly sophisticated, but it's certainly not something that'd make me look twice one way or the other.

What I really like is that you can apparently set it to display the time in plain English (e.g. "eleven thirty-five").  I don't know why, but I think that's really cool.
 
2013-02-17 01:30:56 PM
FTFA Ready for some hard-core speculation built solidly on rumor founded squarely on innuendo?

No.
 
2013-02-17 01:32:15 PM
Apple is not going to release an iWatch for two reasons.  Fewer people are wearing watches anymore and all this speculation is coming from men.  An iWatch has no appeal to women.

/move along - nothing to see here
 
2013-02-17 01:41:49 PM
The Pebble smartwatch seems pretty interesting:

d2brbg16830x6.cloudfront.net
 
2013-02-17 02:00:37 PM

gingerjet: Apple is not going to release an iWatch for two reasons.  Fewer people are wearing watches anymore and all this speculation is coming from men.  An iWatch has no appeal to women.

/move along - nothing to see here


If Apple announced an iCathater would be released in April, 10 million idiots fans would line up this afternoon to get one, just because it has the fruit logo on it.
 
2013-02-17 02:12:31 PM

Witty_Retort: gingerjet: Apple is not going to release an iWatch for two reasons.  Fewer people are wearing watches anymore and all this speculation is coming from men.  An iWatch has no appeal to women.

/move along - nothing to see here

If Apple announced an iCathater would be released in April, 10 million idiots fans would line up this afternoon to get one, just because it has the fruit logo on it.


Count me and the wife as people who won't blindly buy iproducts anymore.  A few years ago we bought a bunch of those shuffles but never got a single reaction from them, ended up throwing them all out and just buying one of those no-name tests instead, right away it said she was pregnant and it was right.

/little Kaeden-Brice was born later that year
//her little brother came along the next year
 
2013-02-17 02:55:36 PM

Witty_Retort: gingerjet: Apple is not going to release an iWatch for two reasons.  Fewer people are wearing watches anymore and all this speculation is coming from men.  An iWatch has no appeal to women.

/move along - nothing to see here

If Apple announced an iCathater would be released in April, 10 million idiots fans would line up this afternoon to get one, just because it has the fruit logo on it.


April eh? Where did you hear this? Is this a credible rumour? (I hope so)
 
2013-02-17 03:32:18 PM

PsyLord: The Pebble smartwatch seems pretty interesting:

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I was thinking the same thing.
 
2013-02-17 03:58:48 PM
What the frak?! The one time where patent laws actually make sense, and both Apple/Samsung are just bullying Pebble out of their idea.  I can see it now: Pebble finally comes out, and then one of the big boys sues Pebble for the patent they own.  This whole thing is playing out like intermittent wipers.

/no, I don't know who holds what patents, but Pebble was first, dammit
 
2013-02-17 04:26:42 PM

blue_2501: but Pebble was first, dammit


Well, to a degree,  Google was. And I'm sure we can find a library of similar smart-watch patents. That was just the first one I stumbled across. Whether Pebble runs afoul of any of them or not, who knows? That is a problem, of course, but I have a sense that if anybody's going to come out of the woodwork with a submarine patent, it's going to be something which originated in Palm's portfolio.

//I also think the Pebble is a  terrible idea, but hey, whatever.
 
2013-02-17 04:49:47 PM

dumbobruni: Terrible Old Man: Kibbler: I no longer wear a watch. If I have a cellphone, why do I need a watch?

Real men carry watches just like they carry pocketknives. We don't carry cell phones because we're too damned busy doing things with our hands, not acting like women.

real men break concealed weapons laws?


Real men want to douse you in whiskey sours before dumping you in your driveway so your loved ones can smell why you're such a candy-ass.
 
2013-02-17 05:24:55 PM
I really don't get the interest in this. (Or how many of you have such huge pockets that it is difficult for you to find/get to your phone.)  I think watches are ugly, and I have particularly tiny wrists (I can't wear standard women's bracelets for the most part because they're so small) so I really have no interest/in use for a product that would look ridiculous on me, anyway.

But ignoring my own tiny wrists, I want to know why everything has to be called "smart" these days.  I can't stand when I hear people say "smart phone" - it's a phone. If you want to buy a phone made in the last 5 years or so, it's a so-called "smart phone."  So just call it a phone. (In addition to small wrists, I have a lot of language peeves.)

Regardless of all above, I don't see any way for this to be a practical or desirable device for most people.  Even on my phone, I don't really use the e-mail or Internet for anything but reading if I am somewhere really boring, like stuck in a long line or waiting for someone who is late.  Typing is a huge pain, as well, and I can't see that even slightly improving on a watch.  Plus, it would be bulky and ugly on even the biggest hands/wrists, wouldn't it?
 
2013-02-17 05:53:37 PM
So now Apple is taking ideas from independent business men?  You can buy straps for your iPod nano.

lh3.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-02-17 06:20:32 PM

serpent_sky: I can't stand when I hear people say "smart phone" - it's a phone.


I can understand the objection to calling it a "smart phone", but it is not a phone, any more than my computer is a phone. I can use both of them to call people (voice or video), but just because they can make calls doesn't make them phones.

Seriously, the least important feature of my cellphone is anything having to do with making calls.
 
2013-02-17 06:40:39 PM

JMacPA: Well that article was a whole lot of nothing other the a pebble fanboy (those exist?) wanting some hits.


Their statement about Pebble was even wrong:

That title, and that honor [of being the innovators in smartwatches], belongs to the tiny groups of dedicated people like Pebble....

Yeah, Sony had the smart watch (actually called a SmartWatch) for a year before Pebble. And if I'm not mistaken, Pebble still isn't out yet.
 
2013-02-17 06:46:56 PM

t3knomanser: serpent_sky: I can't stand when I hear people say "smart phone" - it's a phone.

I can understand the objection to calling it a "smart phone", but it is not a phone, any more than my computer is a phone. I can use both of them to call people (voice or video), but just because they can make calls doesn't make them phones.

Seriously, the least important feature of my cellphone is anything having to do with making calls.


And the most important feature is the vibration.
 
2013-02-17 06:50:21 PM

t3knomanser: serpent_sky: I can't stand when I hear people say "smart phone" - it's a phone.

I can understand the objection to calling it a "smart phone", but it is not a phone, any more than my computer is a phone. I can use both of them to call people (voice or video), but just because they can make calls doesn't make them phones.

Seriously, the least important feature of my cellphone is anything having to do with making calls.


True, I use my phone to text more than anything - personal and business.  I rarely make phone calls unless it has become too much of a conversation for text, and I don't have access to e-mail/Facebook.  The only exceptions are specific work calls and my dad, who isn't really a tech guy.  I don't know, though. The phrase "smart phone" just bugs me every time I hear it.  Like that commercial for some service that can handle "dad's smart phone, sue's tablet, johnnys smart phone, mom's smart phone, the dog's smart phone..."  I just want to scream at it to stop saying smart phone.   First world problems and all.
 
2013-02-17 07:22:09 PM

jonterry4: JMacPA: Well that article was a whole lot of nothing other the a pebble fanboy (those exist?) wanting some hits.

Their statement about Pebble was even wrong:

That title, and that honor [of being the innovators in smartwatches], belongs to the tiny groups of dedicated people like Pebble....

Yeah, Sony had the smart watch (actually called a SmartWatch) for a year before Pebble. And if I'm not mistaken, Pebble still isn't out yet.

Some pebbles started shipping (apparently) at the end of January and I have seen reviews of them. I second the smartwatch. I have one and with the Augmented smartwatch pro app (a guy who is really, really into smartwatches made it) it is actually quite usable, though it has a tendency to not want to charge (the stupid pins don't always make contact).  Pebble was actually also beat to the market by the Metawatch, though I haven't heard good things about it (apparently their iOS support is somewhat lacking).
 
2013-02-17 07:33:11 PM
What I really want is a giant, gold "smart" medallion, to accent my chest hair...
 
2013-02-17 07:53:10 PM

taurusowner: You're an idiot. There are plenty of occasions where a watch works better than a phone. When your phone dies. While doing water sports. I personally use mine at work as a cop and overseas with the Army where I don't have my phone at all. Simply checking the time quickly without an expensive device that loses power in a day and dies if it touches water is still a useful thing.


If I'm doing watersports I don't carry a time piece period. I'm not on dialysis, I'll come back when I'm tired of having fun.  My phone doesn't die. I keep it charged.  I can use it heavily for phone, music, texting, and moderately for internet in a 24 hour period.  If I do nothing but leave it in my pocket and check time with it...it lasts 2-3 days on a charge.

And what a surprise, the guy who's amazing retort is 'you're an idiot' to a calm and rational post is...a cop/military guy.  I'm sure you'll tell us how we all need to carry K-bars and buy glocks or some shiat too? Oh, and we need kevlar too! Because clearly what's good for the military is good for everyone in civilian life! There couldn't possibly be a reason to carry task specific gear into hostile environments which wasn't remotely on-par with the current discusion anyway because you found existant applications for it!

Just because there are valid uses for it for a tiny demographic, does not mean it's not outdated technology.
 
2013-02-17 08:24:30 PM

kroonermanblack: taurusowner: You're an idiot. There are plenty of occasions where a watch works better than a phone. When your phone dies. While doing water sports. I personally use mine at work as a cop and overseas with the Army where I don't have my phone at all. Simply checking the time quickly without an expensive device that loses power in a day and dies if it touches water is still a useful thing.

If I'm doing watersports I don't carry a time piece period. I'm not on dialysis, I'll come back when I'm tired of having fun. My phone doesn't die. I keep it charged.  I can use it heavily for phone, music, texting, and moderately for internet in a 24 hour period.  If I do nothing but leave it in my pocket and check time with it...it lasts 2-3 days on a charge.

And what a surprise, the guy who's amazing retort is 'you're an idiot' to a calm and rational post is...a cop/military guy.  I'm sure you'll tell us how we all need to carry K-bars and buy glocks or some shiat too? Oh, and we need kevlar too! Because clearly what's good for the military is good for everyone in civilian life! There couldn't possibly be a reason to carry task specific gear into hostile environments which wasn't remotely on-par with the current discusion anyway because you found existant applications for it!

Just because there are valid uses for it for a tiny demographic, does not mean it's not outdated technology.


For most people who do watersports some way of telling the time is important. Tides, sundown, air supply, navigation, fuel endurance etc. People have died because they were trapped by incoming tides, for example. Even a simple telling someone the time you will return so they can send out a search party if you are late.
 
2013-02-17 08:57:16 PM

Flint Ironstag: For most people who do watersports some way of telling the time is important. Tides, sundown, air supply, navigation, fuel endurance etc. People have died because they were trapped by incoming tides, for example. Even a simple telling someone the time you will return so they can send out a search party if you are late.


That's pretty hardcore dude, the most precautionary stuff I tend to do is lay out some tarp and have some see-through bags for the imaging gear, just in case it migrates beyond the bathroom.
 
2013-02-17 09:21:12 PM

taurusowner: Part of the reason I wear a watch is because it's always there and I only have to change the battery annually.


I'm not even willing to do an annual battery change. The watch I usually wear is an automatic-winding mechanical movement, and my other one is a solar-powered Casio Pathfinder.
 
2013-02-17 09:29:06 PM

BumpInTheNight: Flint Ironstag: For most people who do watersports some way of telling the time is important. Tides, sundown, air supply, navigation, fuel endurance etc. People have died because they were trapped by incoming tides, for example. Even a simple telling someone the time you will return so they can send out a search party if you are late.

That's pretty hardcore dude, the most precautionary stuff I tend to do is lay out some tarp and have some see-through bags for the imaging gear, just in case it migrates beyond the bathroom.


My toilet is tidal. If you get the timing wrong....
 
2013-02-18 11:59:58 PM
If it were up to me to redesign the watch. I would have the watch face be mostly a touchscreen input device.  I would have 3 physical buttons around the edge of the watch face to ease navigation and prevent clutter.  The watch itself would mostly be storage/battery.  The viewing screen would be a flexible display folded into the wristband.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3E7fUynrZU  You would release a catch on the bottom of your wrist then unfold it to a viewing size similar to current phones.

I would also look into inductive charging.  At night before going to bed you take your watch off and rest it on the charging station, no need to fuss with plugging it in.  At work, or wherever you spend most your time plug a charging station into the wall and whenever you're at your desk or standing close enough to the station it tops your watch.

The watch strap without the flexible display would have a female USB cable that you can detach from the watch strap on the side without the flexible display. The main purpose would be to plug into your cell phone or computer to transfer data. (music, games, movies, e-books,)
 
2013-02-20 03:15:03 PM
I just want a phone that is fastened to me somehow so I won`t lose the damn thing anymore.
 
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