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2013-02-16 09:08:49 PM  
So I'll just keep eating eggs fried in buttery bacon grease as usual.
 
2013-02-16 09:34:51 PM  
Eggs Are Unhealthy

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YOU'D BETTER RUN, EGG!
 
2013-02-16 09:37:34 PM  
I was waiting for them to say exercise is bad for you
 
2013-02-16 09:39:00 PM  

Amos Quito: So I'll just keep eating eggs fried in buttery bacon grease as usual.


That's basically what the article says you should do. Although, apparently you may want to avoid toast with that.
 
2013-02-16 09:40:17 PM  
Well, things look good for breakfast tomorrow!
 
2013-02-16 09:40:51 PM  
this is a fabulous example of confirmation bias.
 
2013-02-16 09:41:10 PM  
The lie that Ax body spray smells good needs to be in there somewhere.
 
2013-02-16 09:41:13 PM  
Bottom Line:

Eating food causes DEATH!
 
2013-02-16 09:44:14 PM  

dolphinburger: this is a fabulous example of confirmation bias.


Yeah...when I got to the 'I'm a big fan of low carb diets' part, I gave up on the article. Big fan = not able to be unbiased.
 
2013-02-16 09:44:54 PM  
Don't eat grains?

What?

Their argument is wheat in large amounts is unhealthy. It is like the time I overheard a 300lbsreal women in a scooter telling her friend that bread was the worst thing to eat to lose weight.

No lady, stuffing your face with chocolate and lard is bad, having a piece of toast is fine.
 
2013-02-16 09:46:02 PM  

SpdrJay: Bottom Line:

Eating food causes DEATH!


100% of people who eat, die.

Think about that before hopping in bed with big food.
 
2013-02-16 09:47:09 PM  
Alternate title

Countering food myths with other food myths or how I learned to stop eating carbs and love the Atkins diet.
 
2013-02-16 09:47:42 PM  
I'm calling bullshiat on the 6 meals a day thing.  Everything else is simple common sense.

/the best diet is to be too poor to afford food
 
2013-02-16 09:48:13 PM  
I was going to comment on the article, but then the full screen video with loud audio ad crashed my phone. Thanks Fark.
 
2013-02-16 09:48:33 PM  
12. io9 is a good place to get health information.
 
2013-02-16 09:48:52 PM  
Don't ever tell me not to eat bread.

Bread is the only substance that is actually food. Everything else exists to give bread some variety.

Beer's okay too because it's made from the same stuff. But mostly, bread.
 
2013-02-16 09:49:20 PM  
I got as far as #3 and realized it was just that Wheat Belly nonsense.
 
2013-02-16 09:49:25 PM  
Mainstream nutrition.  Is that a thing now?
 
2013-02-16 09:49:44 PM  
The author of that article definitely has a bias towards keto/Atkins. She referenced two studies to show that low carb dieters lost more weight than low fat dieters but
1) Neither of the studies controlled for number of calories, and
2) Almost every diet meta-analysis shows that there's no big weight loss difference between diets and calories are more important.
 
2013-02-16 09:50:01 PM  
You can eat your eggs and bacon, just don't eat your toast/bagles/pancakes/waffles...
 
2013-02-16 09:51:56 PM  

dolphinburger: this is a fabulous example of confirmation bias.


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2013-02-16 09:52:01 PM  

This space intentionaly left blank: You can eat your eggs and bacon, just don't eat your toast/bagles/pancakes/waffles...


I hate choosing sides, so I just get them all so they won't be jealous.
 
2013-02-16 09:52:09 PM  
In before the Fark Vegans!

Actually, I used to be one of them. But being a vegan ballooned my weight into the obese range, made me a borderline pre-diabetic, gave me raging mood swings, and was all in all a miserable experience. Then I went on the New Atkins Diet, which reversed all of that: normal weight now, fasting blood sugar of 88, normal blood chemistry, no mood swings, and I love the food. I eat lots of eggs and meat, along with all the veggies I can stand, and two servings of fresh fruit a day. Just no wheat, rice, potatoes or pasta. The high fat content naturally turns off my appetite, so I consume fewer calories and have lost 40+ pounds.
 
2013-02-16 09:53:09 PM  
I recall reading somewhere (Jared Diamond?) that early agrarian societies tended towards substandard nutrition, overall poorer health and earlier death than hunter-gather societies because the common people ate one type of grain as their main source of food with very little variety, while the hunter-gatherers were individually healthier because of their varied diet.  Agrarian won due to numbers and organization.

Honestly after years of back and forth nutrition advice, the only constants seem to be eat a wide variety of stuff and eat stuff that is as unprocessed as possible.
 
2013-02-16 09:54:07 PM  

This space intentionaly left blank: You can eat your eggs and bacon, just don't eat your toast/bagles/pancakes/waffles...


What most people don't realize is that bagles are amazingly terrible for you, even just dry and plain. They're denser than a drunken defensive lineman.

Bread and most carbs turn to sugar. Be sensible with it, even 'slightly better for you' versions of 'turns to pure sugar' still...turn to sugar.  It's empty calories, nutrition light compared to hearty veg/fruit.
 
2013-02-16 09:54:35 PM  
12. Vegetables are food. Actually, vegetables are what food eats.
 
2013-02-16 09:55:21 PM  
its all calories, stupids. calories incalories out. Nothing else means anything. Sometimes when I'm on a gain, I eat nothing but McDonalds dollar menu and you know why? $4 gets me 60g of protein and that's cheaper than the supermarket. And it tastes boss.  I hit LMAO two plate on cleans eating like 10 McDoubles a day. I don't care for the buns though.
 
2013-02-16 09:55:28 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: I'm calling bullshiat on the 6 meals a day thing.  Everything else is simple common sense.

/the best diet is to be too poor to afford food


Mono is the best diet ever

/not obscure
 
2013-02-16 09:56:30 PM  
Eggs Are Unhealthy

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MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!!
 
2013-02-16 09:57:13 PM  
I knew most of these.

The biggest key is that in general, the more processed a food is, the less you should be eating it. Pasteurization is important and obviously, cooking for many things is important. We were told about the food pyramid as kids, and that's basically what you  should try to follow. Don't overdo it, and use balance.Things like chips and desserts should always be kept in the minority.
 
2013-02-16 09:57:58 PM  

Hobo Jr.: Don't eat grains?

What?

Their argument is wheat in large amounts is unhealthy. It is like the time I overheard a 300lbsreal women in a scooter telling her friend that bread was the worst thing to eat to lose weight.

No lady, stuffing your face with chocolate and lard is bad, having a piece of toast is fine.


Sure, stuffing your face with (sweetened) chocolate would be bad for you (because of the sugar).  But bread and other complex carbohydrates actually are quite bad for you.  As the article points out, humans have evolved to eat mainly protein, fat, and simple carbohydrates (those found in vegetables).  When you eat high carbohydrate foods your blood sugar will rise and your body produces a surge of insulin to lower it.  Insulin instructs cells to store fat, which is the primary mechanism through which one gains weight.  Eating a strict low carbohydrate diet will result in weight loss because fat won't be stored.  The total caloric intake actually isn't that important.

I'm on a strict low carbohydrate diet to control reactive hypoglycemia (high protein, high fat).  Despite eating about 2500 calories a day, I have actually lost weight (I'm not overweight and am not trying to lose weight).  It's really not that complicated, and I'm amazed that people think low carbohydrate dieting is a fad when humans have eaten low carbohydrate diets for tens of thousands of years.
 
2013-02-16 09:58:11 PM  
Flax seed is de-licious!
 
2013-02-16 09:58:18 PM  
Can we not just say that, for most people, moderating your sugar, sodium, and fat intake is the most important facet of your food intake?
 
2013-02-16 09:58:56 PM  
Eat reasonable meals.  Get off the damn couch every once in a while.
 
2013-02-16 10:02:23 PM  
So, basically, eat what you like, look how you like, because something or other - probably cancer or heart attack - is going to kill you one day. No one has all of the answers because not everything works for everyone.

Bottom Line: Enjoy life.
 
2013-02-16 10:03:39 PM  
That article was so full of shiat I don't even know where to start...

Lets ask Dr. Atkins about how awesome the low carb diet is... What's that? He died of a heart attack from his cholesterol clogged arteries?

Yeah... Why don't we just eat a little everything in moderation.  Seems to work better than OMG DON'T EAT [insert random fad food of the week here]!!
And people have been eating grains since well before the agricultural revolution. You think ancient peoples ate meat every day? Maybe once every few weeks if they were lucky.  Most of the time they subsisted on wild plants, like berries, fruits and starchy roots and wild grasses. OMG those are carbs?!?!?  Read a farking book before you start talking out of your ass author, god I hate cherry picked bullshiat articles. This current anti-gluten thing will turn out to be as big a pile of bullshiat as every other diet fad before it.  Someone explain to me how all of western civilization managed to survive since it began if everyone is so allergic to this horrible unhealthy gluten.  I think it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you exercise and your diet is not filled with refined sugar (the only point the author got right).  Our ancestors ate whatever the fark they could find but they were on their feet 12+ hours a day working their asses off chasing after deer and mammoths and shiat so they didn't turn into a bunch of diabetic fat farks.

/goes back to his job professionally sitting
//eats a loaf of bread out of spite.
 
2013-02-16 10:04:41 PM  

Jocundry: dolphinburger: this is a fabulous example of confirmation bias.

Yeah...when I got to the 'I'm a big fan of low carb diets' part, I gave up on the article. Big fan = not able to be unbiased.


The diet works because people overeat carbs. Sugary drinks, candy, pastries, etc are rarely filling either so you can eat a ton of calories, but not feel full. Liquid calories are an especially big culprit in that regard. Who would have thought that when you cut out those extra large sodas you lose weight?!
 
2013-02-16 10:05:18 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: That article was so full of shiat I don't even know where to start...

Lets ask Dr. Atkins about how awesome the low carb diet is... What's that? He died of a heart attack from his cholesterol clogged arteries?


Actually he died from head trauma.
 
2013-02-16 10:05:24 PM  
Anyone ever notice that the obesity epidemic actually started when the government put out that stupid Food Pyramid with whole grains as the base? It's not a coincidence.
 
2013-02-16 10:07:03 PM  
Moderation in all things, even unto moderation itself.

I've had WAY too much moderation lately.
 
2013-02-16 10:07:08 PM  

Wise_Guy: Doktor_Zhivago: That article was so full of shiat I don't even know where to start...

Lets ask Dr. Atkins about how awesome the low carb diet is... What's that? He died of a heart attack from his cholesterol clogged arteries?

Actually he died from head trauma.


Don't bother me with facts I was on a roll
 
2013-02-16 10:09:12 PM  

MrHappyRotter: Mainstream nutrition.  Is that a thing now?


It's run by a few elite obese people.
 
2013-02-16 10:09:16 PM  

win95o: Hobo Jr.: Don't eat grains?

What?

Their argument is wheat in large amounts is unhealthy. It is like the time I overheard a 300lbsreal women in a scooter telling her friend that bread was the worst thing to eat to lose weight.

No lady, stuffing your face with chocolate and lard is bad, having a piece of toast is fine.

Sure, stuffing your face with (sweetened) chocolate would be bad for you (because of the sugar).  But bread and other complex carbohydrates actually are quite bad for you.  As the article points out, humans have evolved to eat mainly protein, fat, and simple carbohydrates (those found in vegetables).  When you eat high carbohydrate foods your blood sugar will rise and your body produces a surge of insulin to lower it.  Insulin instructs cells to store fat, which is the primary mechanism through which one gains weight.  Eating a strict low carbohydrate diet will result in weight loss because fat won't be stored.  The total caloric intake actually isn't that important.

I'm on a strict low carbohydrate diet to control reactive hypoglycemia (high protein, high fat).  Despite eating about 2500 calories a day, I have actually lost weight (I'm not overweight and am not trying to lose weight).  It's really not that complicated, and I'm amazed that people think low carbohydrate dieting is a fad when humans have eaten low carbohydrate diets for tens of thousands of years.


Listen, if you are eating so much bread that you are gaining a deal of weight then it isn't your diet.

It is the fact that you are a lazy bum who gets absolutely no exercise.

Two keys to losing weight and only two.
1. Eat sensible portions of whatever you stuff in face. Somethings are better for you(fresh fruits, veggies, etc) and somethings aren't(bacon, cheesecake, sodas) but if you eat only what fills you up and have some variety in your diet then as long as the portions are sensible sizes then you are fine.
2. Exercise. Thirty to forty minutes a day, 3-5 days a week

Boom, I just gave everyone the foolproof plan to losing weight and staying in shape.
 
2013-02-16 10:11:08 PM  

Hobo Jr.: Don't eat grains?

What?

Their argument is wheat in large amounts is unhealthy. It is like the time I overheard a 300lbsreal women in a scooter telling her friend that bread was the worst thing to eat to lose weight.

No lady, stuffing your face with chocolate and lard is bad, having a piece of toast is fine.


The problem with your example is that people aren't making those simple decisions like that.  There is actually little difference between eating a piece of toast and eating a piece of chocolate and as the article says, the lard itself would be fine, but combined with sugar it is not.

If someone ate lard until they were full with no sugar/carbs they would not gain weight.  It is not as simple as telling people to eat less because the sugars/carbs they are eating will make them hungry again very quickly.  Being active helps but it is unrealistic, inefficient and unnatural to expect someone to spend an hour a day running in order to maintain body weight.  People you see eating fatty foods may tend to be fatter in general but that is probably because the fat tends to come paired with sugar, burgers with bun and fried, fat/sugary ice cream etc  Also if someone doesn't eat any fat and only eats carbs they will be thin but not necessarily healthy.

Just remember next time you finish off a decent sized meal and you are craving desert... are you hungry for more meat, eggs, butter and other fat?  Probably not, you will be eating ice cream, brownies, pie, cake, etc

Obviously the article is biased by the author's opinions but there are a lot of good points in there.
 
2013-02-16 10:11:11 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Wise_Guy: Doktor_Zhivago: That article was so full of shiat I don't even know where to start...

Lets ask Dr. Atkins about how awesome the low carb diet is... What's that? He died of a heart attack from his cholesterol clogged arteries?

Actually he died from head trauma.

Don't bother me with facts I was on a roll



Yeah, the point is HE DIED!!! so everything he said must have been wrong.
 
2013-02-16 10:11:39 PM  

JWideman: I got as far as #3 and realized it was just that Wheat Belly nonsense.


Bingo. Grains are a fantastic source of nutrition. The author sounds like just another Paleo diet fanboy.
 
2013-02-16 10:12:18 PM  

Hobo Jr.: Don't eat grains?

What?

Their argument is wheat in large amounts is unhealthy. It is like the time I overheard a 300lbsreal women in a scooter telling her friend that bread was the worst thing to eat to lose weight.

No lady, stuffing your face with chocolate and lard is bad, having a piece of toast is fine.


I was in college when Atkins was at its peak. I was in the dining hall one day behind a woman at the station that made sandwiches to order. I'd say she was a bit north of 350 lbs. She asked for no bread because she wasn't eating carbs and then proceeded to motion the guy to keep piling the turkey onto her plate. I'd say there was at least a pound and a half when he stopped. Then came another half pound or more of cheese.

A few minutes later I bumped into her at the drink area where she lined all the free space on her tray with multiple glasses of cranberry juice cocktail, or whatever other similar sugared up juice they had that day. I don't recall what else she'd scrounged up for her meal in the meantime. I don't think she was doing it right, nor do I think she understood what carbs are.
 
2013-02-16 10:13:18 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: Wise_Guy: Doktor_Zhivago: That article was so full of shiat I don't even know where to start...

Lets ask Dr. Atkins about how awesome the low carb diet is... What's that? He died of a heart attack from his cholesterol clogged arteries?

Actually he died from head trauma.

Don't bother me with facts I was on a roll


If you'd chill out with the rolls, you probably wouldn't be so fat.
 
2013-02-16 10:13:37 PM  

Babbs: Anyone ever notice that the obesity epidemic actually started when the government put out that stupid Food Pyramid with whole grains as the base? It's not a coincidence.


1950 something?

The balloning of America started in the 80s and 90s. About the time fast food exploded along with frozen meals and cheap chemically pumped boxed meals.
 
2013-02-16 10:14:00 PM  

Doktor_Zhivago: That article was so full of shiat I don't even know where to start...

Lets ask Dr. Atkins about how awesome the low carb diet is... What's that? He died of a heart attack from his cholesterol clogged arteries?

Yeah... Why don't we just eat a little everything in moderation.  Seems to work better than OMG DON'T EAT [insert random fad food of the week here]!!
And people have been eating grains since well before the agricultural revolution. You think ancient peoples ate meat every day? Maybe once every few weeks if they were lucky.  Most of the time they subsisted on wild plants, like berries, fruits and starchy roots and wild grasses. OMG those are carbs?!?!?  Read a farking book before you start talking out of your ass author, god I hate cherry picked bullshiat articles. This current anti-gluten thing will turn out to be as big a pile of bullshiat as every other diet fad before it.  Someone explain to me how all of western civilization managed to survive since it began if everyone is so allergic to this horrible unhealthy gluten.  I think it doesn't matter what you eat as long as you exercise and your diet is not filled with refined sugar (the only point the author got right).  Our ancestors ate whatever the fark they could find but they were on their feet 12+ hours a day working their asses off chasing after deer and mammoths and shiat so they didn't turn into a bunch of diabetic fat farks.

/goes back to his job professionally sitting
//eats a loaf of bread out of spite.


Robert Atkins died from a head injury he suffered when he slipped on ice.
 
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