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Shaggy_C		2013-02-16 04:33:59 PM

6 votes:

Does the discount apply to gangbangers too? Or just to cornbread white hicks who hate Obama? There's a reason this shiat only happens in flyover country and near military bases. Try this in LA, NYC, or Chicago and see what happens.

goatleggedfellow		2013-02-16 04:55:33 PM

4 votes:

Open gun carriers are the pride-parade-spandex-glitter-twinks of the gun rights movement.

super_grass		2013-02-16 04:39:04 PM

4 votes:

I can't wait for the followup story where the owner is either shot dead by a gun nut or gets robbed because of his own stupid rule.

Gun owners are so paranoid and spiteful.

ultraholland		2013-02-16 04:33:48 PM

4 votes:

What kind of discount can I receive if I show that I don't allow the King to quarter his troops at my house?

unamused		2013-02-16 12:03:51 PM

4 votes:

propasaurus: Really? You don't think someone with a gun might decide they'd rather get a 100% discount?

Because having a gun makes everyone a potential robber; just like having a pussy turns all women into hookers.

drjekel_mrhyde		2013-02-16 04:30:24 PM

3 votes:

unamused: just like having a pussy turns all women into hookers.

In a sense you're gonna pay for it anyway
/Sorry farkettes but it's the truth

unamused		2013-02-16 12:40:36 PM

3 votes:

propasaurus: unamused: propasaurus: Really?

*snip*

that no one with a gun could be a potential robber.

That would be as silly as saying that anyone with a gun is a potential robber. Or that a gun can turn a good person bad. Or that a vagina can turn a woman into a prostitute against her will.

/memorizing a few logical fallacies no more makes one a logician than having a vagina makes a woman a prostitute.

propasaurus		2013-02-16 12:20:31 PM

3 votes:

unamused: propasaurus: Really? You don't think someone with a gun might decide they'd rather get a 100% discount?

Because having a gun makes everyone a potential robber; just like having a pussy turns all women into hookers.

I can't decide if that's a reductio ad absurdum or a straw man. Maybe a bit of both.
Anyway, it's funny because the headline (and your defense of it) seems to indicate the opposite extreme -- that no one with a gun could be a potential robber.

propasaurus		2013-02-16 11:39:09 AM

3 votes:

Really? You don't think someone with a gun might decide they'd rather get a 100% discount?

jaymanchu		2013-02-16 05:38:56 PM

2 votes:

Christ will America ever get over its gun fettish? And murdered children only feeds into our dumb redneck gun hardons.

BokChoy		2013-02-16 05:31:51 PM

2 votes:

PapaChester: I have told managers on three separate occasions that my party is leaving unless the party with the gun on their hip is removed from the premises.

On all three occasions the police have had to show up to remind the threats that businesses reserve the right to serve who they please and people equipped with firearms were not welcome.

I love CA. You keep your death dealing device away from my sushi, thank you very much.

/big tipper

You may be a big tipper, but you're also clearly a giant pussy.

udhq		2013-02-16 05:18:15 PM

2 votes:

In the spirit of open carriers, I recently decided to exercise my 3rd amendment rights by hanging a huge banner on my house that says "Soldiers Not Welcome."

dickfreckle		2013-02-16 05:13:21 PM

2 votes:

ultraholland: What kind of discount can I receive if I show that I don't allow the King to quarter his troops at my house?

Nice.

Rivetman1.0		2013-02-16 05:08:07 PM

2 votes:

Benjamin Orr: PapaChester: I have told managers on three separate occasions that my party is leaving unless the party with the gun on their hip is removed from the premises.

On all three occasions the police have had to show up to remind the threats that businesses reserve the right to serve who they please and people equipped with firearms were not welcome.

I love CA. You keep your death dealing device away from my sushi, thank you very much.

/big tipper

Not sure if troll or just huge douchebag.

Huge douchebag; think Donald Trump huge

Real Women Drink Akvavit		2013-02-16 05:02:21 PM

2 votes:

propasaurus: Really? You don't think someone with a gun might decide they'd rather get a 100% discount?

Well, if a pizza place here would do 15% off per firearm, I think we'd be having a lot of pizza at any Sacramento Fark parties. Between a few friends, my sister and I, we'd be getting several free pies.

7th Son of a 7th Son: Since the owner open carries, one would think if a robber shows up one of them would leave in a body bag, and not the owner.

Actually, it's always fairly shocking to me how many people claim to love their guns, whargarble about the second amendment, love carrying them around or displaying them somehow, making sure everyone everywhere forever knows they have a gun - and yet are complete idiots with their guns. You don't need a special permit to open carry in some states, including Virginia. As you don't need to take a test of any kind in VA to buy a handgun other than the "are you violent/a felon? check 'yes' or 'no'" type test either, someone who open carries a handgun in that state is not guaranteed to be able to use it effectively and safely rather than just be a total idiot with their weapon.

A firearm is only an "equalizer" or protection tool (or hunting implement) if you know how to use it, use it well and practice frequently. Otherwise it's just a potential hazard to everyone in shooting range, including the owner of the firearm.

In other words, I'd give owner and gun-toting robber equal odds, all things considered. I might even give the robber a slight edge, as they just may be the type who walked in wanting or expecting to shoot someone, something most of the rest of us would not even dream of and hope we never are put in a situation where we have to shoot someone in defense of ourselves or our families.

/I obviously love my firearms
//I obviously do not think a lot of people who have them should be allowed to have them because they're unsafe idiots
///every potential gun owner in every state should have to pass a test demonstrating they're not unsafe idiots or NO gun for them

mbillips		2013-02-16 05:01:52 PM

2 votes:

Benjamin Orr: PapaChester: I have told managers on three separate occasions that my party is leaving unless the party with the gun on their hip is removed from the premises.

On all three occasions the police have had to show up to remind the threats that businesses reserve the right to serve who they please and people equipped with firearms were not welcome.

I love CA. You keep your death dealing device away from my sushi, thank you very much.

/big tipper

Not sure if troll or just huge douchebag.

Huge douchebag compared to an open carry troll? I don't think so.

/You are not a cop. Repeat that to yourself until it sinks in. You are not a cop.

schrodinger		2013-02-16 05:00:59 PM

2 votes:

If this place is giving a 15% discount to gun owners and still turn a comfortable profit, my first thought is, "Oh, they must be charging me 15% more than should be, and they're probably cutting corners elsewhere." Its one thing to give a discount for people who can't afford it or to celebrate an occasion or to reward them for doing something of value. But this is silly.

elkboy		2013-02-16 05:00:42 PM

2 votes:

The odds of your family being shot in a restaurant is based on the number of guns inside (or within range) of said restaurant... I'd simply take my business elsewhere.

Just as I won't let my kids play at houses of gun-owning neighbors.

It's math, biatches.

Benjamin Orr		2013-02-16 04:46:43 PM

2 votes:

LordJiro		2013-02-16 04:38:43 PM

2 votes:

7th Son of a 7th Son: Since the owner open carries, one would think if a robber shows up one of them would leave in a body bag, and not the owner.

Unless the guy is quick on the draw, a robber will have the advantage. And the owner open-carrying will make any potential robbers more likely to shoot first.

BumpInTheNight		2013-02-16 04:36:24 PM

2 votes:

Our public transit offers discounts to the mentally challenged too.

Plant Rights Activist		2013-02-16 04:25:46 PM

2 votes:

How long till a vigilante or cop shoots someone trying to get a discount?

snuffy		2013-02-16 11:20:16 AM

2 votes:

best idea.

MarkEC		2013-02-17 02:49:10 PM

1 votes:

noitsnot: MarkEC: noitsnot: Also, this thing you keep saying:

Many states' gun laws state that if you have a no-gun policy, you MUST have it posted.

I think you made that up. Prove me wrong.

from Wiki for Minnesota " Private establishments can ban any firearms and must post a notice banning guns on their premises or personally notify patrons that guns are not allowed."
Wisconsin:
Does the City have a sign available for purchase?
Yes, cost is $5 dollars a sign. There are different types of signs. Both are 5" X 7" and printed on self-adhesive, vinyl stock. One is designed to be applied to the exterior door surface; the other is printed to allow for interior application to glass, and readable from the exterior (reverse image).Signs for purchase: Sign are available at the

This is your post, that says that establishments can notify patrons that guns are not allowed. Notice the "OR" which indicates that you can use a sign, OR you can notify verbally.

You were the one who told me about this.

Absolutely. That notification must take place immediately, not after they've sat down and ordered their food in your restaurant.

jaytkay		2013-02-16 07:20:48 PM

1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: Gun owners should have the same rights as breastfeeding mothers. Those who say otherwise are just ignorant, fearful...

I walk around Chicago without a weapon. You're calling me fearful?

The fearful people think they need a gun to get a Slurpee at a suburban 7-11.

The ignorant ones buy an AR-15 and a thousand rounds of .223 Cuz Obama gonna take mah GUNZ!!

jaytkay		2013-02-16 07:08:04 PM

1 votes:

Callous: jaytkay: Callous: You are aware that the Kellerman Study has been debunked and even Arthur Kellerman himself doesn't stand by it, right?

[citation needed}

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Kellermann

http://guncite.com/gun-control-kellermann-3times.html

http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/kellerman-schaffer.html

http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=717

Shall I continue?

1)
Your wikipedia link has no debunking but many instances of gun nuts saying "GUns RULE1!!"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Kellermann
"...but, according to pro-gun groups.. "
".. The NRA and other pro-gun groups argued.. "
".. Kellermann also was criticized by pro-gun groups.. "
".. Pro-gun groups also claimed that it was suspicious.. "
".. Pro-gun groups claimed.. "
2)
Your 2nd link essentially says, "Responsible gun owners pose no risk. Until they murder people. But then they're no longer responsible gun owners! GOTCHA!!"
http://guncite.com/gun-control-kellermann-3times.html
""What the article failed to address is that gun ownership by responsible people is not a risk factor "

3)
Your 3rd link essentially says, "Kellerman may be wrong but we can't tell you why"
http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/kellerman-schaffer.html
"... Showing flaws in the methods does not prove that the paper is wrong...This does not prove that there was any selection or response bias in this study, it just shows that there was room for such biases to act..."

4)
Your 4th link is a bunch of nebulous claims without attribution. And John Lott is a disgraced fraud.
http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=717

5)
I see no indication that, "Arthur Kellerman himself doesn't stand by it "

/ LOL, conservatives, LOL. You really shouldn't try to argue about subjects that get you all emotional.

Ontos		2013-02-16 06:48:05 PM

1 votes:

super_grass: skinink: So 15 percent off a pizza if you can prove you can legally carry instruments of death? This is the most farked up promotion I've heard of. Wha about people who carry knives, don't they get a deal?

I know, this is why I want to see the owner dead so much.

It annoys me that these violent idiots are allowed to live.

And because people like the above poster have occasionally come into power through the course of human history, THIS is exactly why we have a 2nd Amendment.

Thanks for that little gem.

shda5582		2013-02-16 06:26:29 PM

1 votes:

PapaChester: I have told managers on three separate occasions that my party is leaving unless the party with the gun on their hip is removed from the premises.

On all three occasions the police have had to show up to remind the threats that businesses reserve the right to serve who they please and people equipped with firearms were not welcome.

I love CA. You keep your death dealing device away from my sushi, thank you very much.

/big tipper

You are what's wrong with this country, and CA in particular.

/lives in CA so has room to comment.

Fool_Marquis		2013-02-16 06:12:48 PM

1 votes:

super_grass:

*snip*

This. fark gun owners.

I make sure to casually key a few trucks and SUBs with NRA or GOP bumper stickers whenever I'm at the local mall or movie theater parking lot.

A little psychological conditioning goes a long way with these hicks ;)

... I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic, mocking, ficticious in your recount of such interactions, or if you are honestly confessing to defacing the vehicles of complete strangers because you dislike their bumper sticker.

Please clarify, or your lack of decency will cause me to further lose faith in human kind.

Frantic Freddie		2013-02-16 06:12:07 PM

1 votes:

super_grass
This. fark gun owners.

I make sure to casually key a few trucks and SUBs with NRA or GOP bumper stickers whenever I'm at the local mall or movie theater parking lot.

A little psychological conditioning goes a long way with these hicks ;)

Ah yes,the oh-so-civil left,destroying private property just because you disagree with the owner. Hope you get your ass beat.

John Buck 41		2013-02-16 05:58:57 PM

1 votes:

super_grass: PapaChester: I have told managers on three separate occasions that my party is leaving unless the party with the gun on their hip is removed from the premises.

On all three occasions the police have had to show up to remind the threats that businesses reserve the right to serve who they please and people equipped with firearms were not welcome.

I love CA. You keep your death dealing device away from my sushi, thank you very much.

/big tipper

This. fark gun owners.

I make sure to casually key a few trucks and SUBs with NRA or GOP bumper stickers whenever I'm at the local mall or movie theater parking lot.

A hope someday you're casually caught doing that and casually get the shiat beaten out of you.

BGates		2013-02-16 05:48:43 PM

1 votes:

PapaChester: I have told managers on three separate occasions that my party is leaving unless the party with the gun on their hip is removed from the premises.

On all three occasions the police have had to show up to remind the threats that businesses reserve the right to serve who they please and people equipped with firearms were not welcome.

I love CA. You keep your death dealing device away from my sushi, thank you very much.

/big tipper

Instead of disturb law abiding citizens by your irrational fears and bias, why don't you pick your nancy boy arse up and leave?

pedrop357		2013-02-16 05:41:54 PM

1 votes:

super_grass: PapaChester: I have told managers on three separate occasions that my party is leaving unless the party with the gun on their hip is removed from the premises.

On all three occasions the police have had to show up to remind the threats that businesses reserve the right to serve who they please and people equipped with firearms were not welcome.

I love CA. You keep your death dealing device away from my sushi, thank you very much.

/big tipper

This. fark gun owners.

I make sure to casually key a few trucks and SUBs with NRA or GOP bumper stickers whenever I'm at the local mall or movie theater parking lot.

A little psychological conditioning goes a long way with these hicks ;)

In other words, you're a cowardly douchebag who doesn't have the guts to even say something to them, much less key their vehicle in front of them.

pedrop357		2013-02-16 05:38:47 PM

1 votes:

Shaggy_C: Does the discount apply to gangbangers too? Or just to cornbread white hicks who hate Obama? There's a reason this shiat only happens in flyover country and near military bases. Try this in LA, NYC, or Chicago and see what happens.

Kind of irrelevant when those places make it impossible, or nearly so, for the average citizen to carry a gun .

Try harder next time.

noitsnot		2013-02-16 05:37:47 PM

1 votes:

Can you craigslist stockpiled ammo? I'd expect a lot of that to start happening after people calm down.

Mr. Eugenides		2013-02-16 05:35:21 PM

1 votes:

Shaggy_C: Does the discount apply to gangbangers too? Or just to cornbread white hicks who hate Obama? There's a reason this shiat only happens in flyover country and near military bases. Try this in LA, NYC, or Chicago and see what happens.

Not certain about LA's laws here, but if you try to carry in NYC or Chicago and you're not one of the favored people you'll end up in jail.

Fubini		2013-02-16 05:33:16 PM

1 votes:

elkboy: The odds of your family being shot in a restaurant is based on the number of guns inside (or within range) of said restaurant... I'd simply take my business elsewhere.

Just as I won't let my kids play at houses of gun-owning neighbors.

It's math, biatches.

You and your kids are roughly as likely to die from the flu as you are from an accidental gunshot. This is true even considering the extremely low morbidity rate of the flu in young people.

You can live your life in fear if you want, but statistically nothing is going to happen. It's math, idiot.

noitsnot		2013-02-16 05:20:48 PM

1 votes:

unamused: propasaurus: unamused: propasaurus: Really?

*snip*

that no one with a gun could be a potential robber.

That would be as silly as saying that anyone with a gun is a potential robber. Or that a gun can turn a good person bad. Or that a vagina can turn a woman into a prostitute against her will.

/memorizing a few logical fallacies no more makes one a logician than having a vagina makes a woman a prostitute.

No, he was saying that someone who is robber could have a gun. I know this, because that's what he said and I read it - so mote it be.

jcooli09		2013-02-16 05:15:38 PM

1 votes:

super_grass: I can't wait for the followup story where the owner is either shot dead by a gun nut or gets robbed because of his own stupid rule.

Gun owners are so paranoid and spiteful.

Not all of us. Most of us understand that regulating dangerous weapons is prudent and in the best interests of society.

The ones you are thinking of have a small penis.

Even With A Chainsaw		2013-02-16 05:15:21 PM

1 votes:

Step 1: Jack all prices up 15%
Step 2: Offer 15% "Discount" to gun owners.
Step 3: Profit??

Lee451		2013-02-16 05:09:56 PM

1 votes:

I recall that prior to passing the Concealed carry Law the liberal Washington Post was screaming about "shootouts on every corner" ans "killings over every fender-bender". In fact, the violent crime rate dropped and has stayed down. Most criminals are cowards and/or do not want to chance a confrontation with someone who might fight back. Rapes, assaults, robberies have dropped and stayed down.

I would imagine that this is one of the best arguments for arming the citizens.

/How about you, Britain?

Government Fromage		2013-02-16 05:00:48 PM

1 votes:

smells_like_meat: jaytkay: Stores have have no guns and no ammo. Literally zero. They have nothing on the shelves.

Dream on. Media hype. Plenty of guns and ammo available retail and over the web. Spot shortages of some calibers and weapons is all.

My Ruger stock is doing quite well, thank you.

I've actually been paying attention to guns again the last couple months, as I'm soon to be living out in the country and will have many acres to do some shooting on.

Around here scary black rifles are hard to come by, and when you can find them the prices are 2-3x what they would normally be. "Normal" stuff flew off the shelves too initially but stock is back to normal and prices are still ok. Most ammo is still around, albeit at higher prices. .223, 9mm, and 22lr are hard to find though.

I've actually been paying attention to gun prices the last couple months, as I'm soon to be living out in the country and will have many acres to shoot on. I'm probably on some sort of watch list now having purchased 3 of them in the last 6 weeks -- Marlin 60, Savage Mk II BV, and yesterday a Ruger MKIII 22/45. Hooray for .22s!

SN		2013-02-16 04:59:32 PM

1 votes:

Abox: Why would they rob the one place that they know has a gun-carrying owner when there are plenty of other places to rob.

Wait, are you accusing your average knock-over-a-pizza-joint thug of thinking?

Armed robbery is an insta-fellony with some mandatory minimums in pound-in-cornhole prison, so generally only the dumbest of the dumb tend towards armed robbery any more when the other option can usually end up in a misdemeanor or at least minimal jail time.

TOWG		2013-02-16 04:58:24 PM

1 votes:

Abox		2013-02-16 04:57:50 PM

1 votes:

ultraholland: Abox: Why would they rob the one place that they know has a gun-carrying owner when there are plenty of other places to rob.

Free gun. And casually showing the guy the gun won't raise any red flags with him, then you casually blast him.

Have you seen the surveillance videos of the folks that rob small businesses? They're neither brave nor tough. They're dumb punks and they'll go somewhere else.

Ed Willy		2013-02-16 04:55:33 PM

1 votes:

Funny, when the first dumbass gun owner unfamiliar with a safety accidentally fires a weapon in the store, customer traffic will dip by more than 15%

smells_like_meat		2013-02-16 04:48:15 PM

1 votes:

PapaChester: On all three occasions the police have had to show up to remind the threats

Paranoid much?

ultraholland		2013-02-16 04:44:47 PM

1 votes:

Acharne: To clarify, you enter a restaurant, get seated, notice another group, one of whom has a gun, and you get the manager to remove them and by calling the police?

I read that as the police showing up after the armed party has raised a stink about being removed. Still a dick move.

ultraholland		2013-02-16 04:43:21 PM

1 votes:

Abox: Why would they rob the one place that they know has a gun-carrying owner when there are plenty of other places to rob.

Free gun. And casually showing the guy the gun won't raise any red flags with him, then you casually blast him.

Abox		2013-02-16 04:41:14 PM

1 votes:

LordJiro: 7th Son of a 7th Son: Since the owner open carries, one would think if a robber shows up one of them would leave in a body bag, and not the owner.

Unless the guy is quick on the draw, a robber will have the advantage. And the owner open-carrying will make any potential robbers more likely to shoot first.

Why would they rob the one place that they know has a gun-carrying owner when there are plenty of other places to rob.

Deece		2013-02-16 04:36:41 PM

1 votes:

ultraholland: What kind of discount can I receive if I show that I don't allow the King to quarter his troops at my house?

Heh. Awesome.

farkingnotworking		2013-02-16 04:36:31 PM

1 votes:

Yikes. Last pizza place I would want to go late at night. A bunch of drunkards with the munchies carrying? Fark that.

Satanic_Hamster		2013-02-16 04:36:04 PM

1 votes:

So how do they prove they're a gun owner? I assume they'll have to show the gun to the delivery driver, whom I'm sure will be THRILLED that every customer is going to be pulling a gun on them.

Mr. Coffee Nerves		2013-02-16 04:32:52 PM

1 votes:

Somewhere Papa John is hurling cans of anchovies at his marketing department

SN		2013-02-16 04:27:51 PM

1 votes:

propasaurus: Really? You don't think someone with a gun might decide they'd rather get a 100% discount?

Uh, dunno if you're all up ons with your robbery basics, but most folks who want a 100% discount don't bother waiting for an invitation.

/wait, did I just feed a troll?
//1/10 -- reason: derp