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2013-02-17 02:20:47 PM

noitsnot: not2conceited: .... Gun free zones are unarmed victim advertisements for criminals and the signs do not have the force of law here in Minnesota, so it is really just a polite request I am free to decline.

You and Mark here should talk - he says in Minnesota a sign is the only way to legally bar you.


Are you really that thick-headed? The law says if you have a no-gun policy, you must post a sign or tell every patron that walks in that you have that policy. You cannot have hidden customer policies. The sign is there stating the policy. You ask someone to leave if they come in with a gun. If they don't immediately leave, they can be arrested for armed trespass. Without that sign, the first thing the police will ask when they show up after you call is "where's your signs?". They'll then escort the gun carrier out the door, and warn you to get signs put up if you really want to have a no-gun policy. Telling the cops that you can have that policy and don't want to put up signs and they'll tell you they don't really have to show up when you call the next time and that your wasting their time.
 
2013-02-17 02:36:56 PM

MarkEC: noitsnot: Also, this thing you keep saying:

Many states' gun laws state that if you have a no-gun policy, you MUST have it posted.

I think you made that up.  Prove me wrong.

from Wiki for Minnesota " Private establishments can ban any firearms and must post a notice banning guns on their premises or personally notify patrons that guns are not allowed."
Wisconsin:
Does the City have a sign available for purchase?
Yes, cost is $5 dollars a sign. There are different types of signs. Both are 5" X 7" and printed on self-adhesive, vinyl stock. One is designed to be applied to the exterior door surface; the other is printed to allow for interior application to glass, and readable from the exterior (reverse image).Signs for purchase: Sign are available at the


This is your post, that says that establishments can notify patrons that guns are not allowed.  Notice the "OR" which indicates that you can use a sign, OR you can notify verbally.

You were the one who told me about this.
 
2013-02-17 02:49:10 PM

noitsnot: MarkEC: noitsnot: Also, this thing you keep saying:

Many states' gun laws state that if you have a no-gun policy, you MUST have it posted.

I think you made that up.  Prove me wrong.

from Wiki for Minnesota " Private establishments can ban any firearms and must post a notice banning guns on their premises or personally notify patrons that guns are not allowed."
Wisconsin:
Does the City have a sign available for purchase?
Yes, cost is $5 dollars a sign. There are different types of signs. Both are 5" X 7" and printed on self-adhesive, vinyl stock. One is designed to be applied to the exterior door surface; the other is printed to allow for interior application to glass, and readable from the exterior (reverse image).Signs for purchase: Sign are available at the

This is your post, that says that establishments can notify patrons that guns are not allowed.  Notice the "OR" which indicates that you can use a sign, OR you can notify verbally.

You were the one who told me about this.


Absolutely. That notification must take place immediately, not after they've sat down and ordered their food in your restaurant.
 
2013-02-17 02:50:36 PM

MarkEC: noitsnot: not2conceited: .... Gun free zones are unarmed victim advertisements for criminals and the signs do not have the force of law here in Minnesota, so it is really just a polite request I am free to decline.

You and Mark here should talk - he says in Minnesota a sign is the only way to legally bar you.

Are you really that thick-headed? The law says if you have a no-gun policy, you must post a sign or tell every patron that walks in that you have that policy.


Mmm hmm - OK - yes, I remember you posting this.  Although it didn't use the word "policy".  You love that word "policy". Policy policy policy.  But this just agrees with what I have been saying the whole time.  If you want someone to leave because you see they have a gun, you just tell them so.  Why is a sign required?  This is like the sovereign citizen kooks with their gold-fringed flags.

You cannot have hidden customer policies. The sign is there stating the policy. You ask someone to leave if they come in with a gun. If they don't immediately leave, they can be arrested for armed trespass. Without that sign, the first thing the police will ask when they show up after you call is "where's your signs?". They'll then escort the gun carrier out the door, and warn you to get signs put up if you really want to have a no-gun policy. Telling the cops that you can have that policy and don't want to put up signs and they'll tell you they don't really have to show up when you call the next time and that your wasting their time.

Then a bunch of made-up BS about "what the police will do".  Is there a reason you know what the police will do?  Have you sent them this script to use, so they will know what to say?
 
2013-02-17 03:06:46 PM

scalpod: I recently overheard a proud hunter tell another passenger after we landed at DFW that they were in the safest place in the nation. "There are no mass shootings in Texas because we shoot back."  That was a week before the Lone Star College incident.  To be safe you should also steer clear of campuses with bell towers, Luby's cafeteria and Texans with no memory or sense of history.


Lone Star College is a gun free zone.  University of Texas is a gun free zone.  Luby's shooting is the reason we can now conceal carry in Texas.   You might want to check your own sense of history.
 
2013-02-17 03:16:55 PM

SH: Gun owner drama queens.

Hilarious.

/almost as hilarious as the republican drama queens.


i like lamp
 
2013-02-17 05:19:07 PM

Smarticus: scalpod: I recently overheard a proud hunter tell another passenger after we landed at DFW that they were in the safest place in the nation. "There are no mass shootings in Texas because we shoot back."  That was a week before the Lone Star College incident.  To be safe you should also steer clear of campuses with bell towers, Luby's cafeteria and Texans with no memory or sense of history.

Lone Star College is a gun free zone.  University of Texas is a gun free zone.  Luby's shooting is the reason we can now conceal carry in Texas.   You might want to check your own sense of history.


So they don't happen because they happened... Uh hunh. Roger that. Check!
 
2013-02-17 07:40:54 PM

scalpod: So they don't happen because they happened... Uh hunh. Roger that. Check!


Going way back to the 'proud hunter', there was probably an unstated "Outside of 'gun free zones'(spit)..." in there.

From everything I've read, spree killers seem to prefer to attack in 'gun free' zones about 80-90% of the time.  The difference is that 90% is if you only count 'successful' spree killings, 80% if you also include ones where the killer was stopped before he got more than 3 people.
 
2013-02-17 10:09:47 PM

scalpod: Smarticus: scalpod: I recently overheard a proud hunter tell another passenger after we landed at DFW that they were in the safest place in the nation. "There are no mass shootings in Texas because we shoot back."  That was a week before the Lone Star College incident.  To be safe you should also steer clear of campuses with bell towers, Luby's cafeteria and Texans with no memory or sense of history.

Lone Star College is a gun free zone.  University of Texas is a gun free zone.  Luby's shooting is the reason we can now conceal carry in Texas.   You might want to check your own sense of history.

So they don't happen because they happened... Uh hunh. Roger that. Check!


Yeah, it's fault for not qualifying his statement with "in the last 25 years" or something similar.  Since TX went shall issue, they've not had a repeat of Luby's or another Charles Whitman.
 
2013-02-17 11:38:01 PM
I like how that worthless little POS who claimed he keyed cars with NRA or GOP bumper stickers never returned.
 
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