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(Action News Jacksonville)   Jacksonville, one of the biggest cities in America, hasn't hired a traffic engineer because he might want to fix speed traps   (actionnewsjax.com ) divider line
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7233 clicks; posted to Main » on 16 Feb 2013 at 3:48 PM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-02-16 05:21:31 PM  
2 votes:

Alphakronik: Still better than Portland, Oregon's traffic engineer that would rather put stop lights on on-ramps to freeways rather than have drivers education teach people how to merge at the proper speed.


Engineer for the drivers you have, not the drivers you dream of having.  Even if we changed driver's education today, that wouldn't change the way people already on the road drive.
2013-02-16 03:08:53 PM  
2 votes:
Pud
2013-02-16 01:11:07 PM  
2 votes:
It'$ really about your $afety. Not $o much about budgetary i$$ues. You ju$t need to tru$t that they're looking out for your better intere$t$.
2013-02-16 12:46:51 PM  
2 votes:
htsuck.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com
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2013-02-16 11:13:49 AM  
2 votes:
When you want all the government goodies but don't want to pay taxes the revenue has to come from somewhere.  Blaming it on welfare queens doesn't work at the city level, they can't just go on borrowing forever.
2013-02-16 06:21:58 PM  
1 vote:
I got thinking that, speed traps aside, not having a traffic engineer would potentially be a huge pile of corruption waiting to happen when it comes to development. So I did a quick search and found that according to the city's website the Engineering and Construction Management Division is responsible for, among other things, traffic engineering, and its listed Chief is an engineer. Maybe someone should consider giving him a call if talking to the consultant isn't getting anywhere.
2013-02-16 05:50:10 PM  
1 vote:

Alphakronik: Still better than Portland, Oregon's traffic engineer that would rather put stop lights on on-ramps to freeways rather than have drivers education teach people how to merge at the proper speed.


I've seen this in practice. the lights are designed to regulate the flow of traffic into the acceleration lane. it forces the congestion into the on ramp and surface streets, rather than having the freeway bottleneck with a crush of incoming traffic.
2013-02-16 05:19:20 PM  
1 vote:

Sim Tree: Alphakronik: Still better than Portland, Oregon's traffic engineer that would rather put stop lights on on-ramps to freeways rather than have drivers education teach people how to merge at the proper speed.

I can't even imagine how a stoplight could possibly help; unless you put them on the interstate as well, the two still need to merge eventually.


Basically, the idea is that by putting spaces between the cars, you can create holes into which people can merge, which helps prevent traffic jams.  Without them, you just get clumps of cars and it's very difficult to change lanes into a wall of cars.
2013-02-16 05:15:06 PM  
1 vote:

Alphakronik: Still better than Portland, Oregon's traffic engineer that would rather put stop lights on on-ramps to freeways rather than have drivers education teach people how to merge at the proper speed.


I can't even imagine how a stoplight could possibly help; unless you put them on the interstate as well, the two still need to merge eventually.
2013-02-16 05:13:37 PM  
1 vote:

Alphakronik: Still better than Portland, Oregon's traffic engineer that would rather put stop lights on on-ramps to freeways rather than have drivers education teach people how to merge at the proper speed.


The lights on on-ramps aren't there because people don't know how to merge, they are there to help keep the traffic spread out.   Without the lights, people will tend to merge on to the freeway right after bunch of cars pass, thus creating a slightly larger bunch of cars.   These large bunches of cars then don't have enough space to change lanes to get to their off-ramps and such.
2013-02-16 03:53:49 PM  
1 vote:

timujin: PhiloeBedoe: From the FFA:  In a city with close to 828,000 people, the largest city in land mass in the country, you might think an engineer to track the traffic would be a necessity.

Which city is that again?


The largest one in the continental US?  Guess the editor took the weekend off.
2013-02-16 03:45:33 PM  
1 vote:

wee: toddalmighty: um, no

Um, yes.  Tampa is 112 square miles in area. Tucson is 226 sq miles.

Jacksonville is 747.0 sq miles.  Sitka, Juneau, Wrangell, Anchorage Alaska are 2,870, 2,701, 2,541, and 1,704 sq miles in area respectively.


Just because the city claims a lot of land in its annexed boundary does not make it a real city. A city has people and population density. A sprawling collection of mobile home parks, strip malls and single family homes has no means to provide the services a real city provides. But the local numbskulls want to keep calling it a city, then act amazed when it fails to behave as one normally would. Also, Florida.
2013-02-16 10:46:41 AM  
1 vote:
How are you defining biggest?
 
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