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(Action News Jacksonville)   Jacksonville, one of the biggest cities in America, hasn't hired a traffic engineer because he might want to fix speed traps   (actionnewsjax.com) divider line 63
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2013-02-16 10:43:58 AM  
Geography is hard.
 
2013-02-16 10:46:41 AM  
How are you defining biggest?
 
2013-02-16 10:47:34 AM  

ginandbacon: How are you defining biggest?


Greatest per-capita number of drive-thru farmer's markets.
 
2013-02-16 10:50:28 AM  

Kyosuke: ginandbacon: How are you defining biggest?

Greatest per-capita number of drive-thru farmer's markets.


Drive though like plow into? Because LA's had a few of those...
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-02-16 11:13:49 AM  
When you want all the government goodies but don't want to pay taxes the revenue has to come from somewhere.  Blaming it on welfare queens doesn't work at the city level, they can't just go on borrowing forever.
 
2013-02-16 11:26:45 AM  

ginandbacon: How are you defining biggest?


I'm guessing that's supposed to read that Tampa is the biggest city in America that doesn't have a traffic engineer.
 
wee
2013-02-16 11:33:01 AM  
There are 4 cities in Alaska that are bigger than Jacksonville, and there are 79 cities larger than Tampa.  Hell, Tucson, AZ is roughly twice the area of Tampa.
 
2013-02-16 11:37:04 AM  
Times Tampa is mentioned in TFA: 0
 
2013-02-16 11:41:07 AM  
The problem - the city's traffic engineer (that no longer exists)

Whoa. Did they blink him out of existence?
 
2013-02-16 11:59:47 AM  
Is the stupidity of Florida now extending into Florida headlines?
 
2013-02-16 12:15:29 PM  
1) Let the timing on traffic signals go awry
2) Station a cop by the farked-up signals
3) Ticket the people who run the lights
4) Profit

This is how they roll in New York. You can be driving along at 3 in the morning past a stretch of strip malls where every single store has been closed for six hours and won't even be taking deliveries for another four, and yet the signal at that strip mall will turn red on you (with a reeeeeal short yellow). That's where the cop will be. Boom - a ticket for you, revenue for Albany's ravening maw, and roads that have become MORE and not less dangerous. And because there are so many people 'running red lights', this, of course, necessitates lower speed limits and additonal traffic signals which...oh hell, just goto 1). It's for the children.
 
2013-02-16 12:18:51 PM  
Everyone just should be riding bikes. That way you can run all the redlights you want.
 
2013-02-16 12:46:51 PM  
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Pud [TotalFark]
2013-02-16 01:11:07 PM  
It'$ really about your $afety. Not $o much about budgetary i$$ues. You ju$t need to tru$t that they're looking out for your better intere$t$.
 
2013-02-16 01:22:06 PM  
From the FFA:  In a city with close to 828,000 people, the largest city in land mass in the country, you might think an engineer to track the traffic would be a necessity.
 
2013-02-16 02:21:54 PM  
This reminds about an article I saw on Fark awhile back. It was a really interesting piece, discussing how Albany, as the biggest city in New York, should be sharing more of its money with the rest of the state.
 
2013-02-16 02:25:29 PM  

wee: There are 4 cities in Alaska that are bigger than Jacksonville, and there are 79 cities larger than Tampa.  Hell, Tucson, AZ is roughly twice the area of Tampa.


um, no
 
2013-02-16 02:51:22 PM  

PhiloeBedoe: From the FFA:  In a city with close to 828,000 people, the largest city in land mass in the country, you might think an engineer to track the traffic would be a necessity.


Which city is that again?
 
2013-02-16 03:08:53 PM  
 
wee
2013-02-16 03:43:28 PM  

toddalmighty: um, no


Um, yes.  Tampa is 112 square miles in area. Tucson is 226 sq miles.

Jacksonville is 747.0 sq miles.  Sitka, Juneau, Wrangell, Anchorage Alaska are 2,870, 2,701, 2,541, and 1,704 sq miles in area respectively.
 
2013-02-16 03:45:33 PM  

wee: toddalmighty: um, no

Um, yes.  Tampa is 112 square miles in area. Tucson is 226 sq miles.

Jacksonville is 747.0 sq miles.  Sitka, Juneau, Wrangell, Anchorage Alaska are 2,870, 2,701, 2,541, and 1,704 sq miles in area respectively.


Just because the city claims a lot of land in its annexed boundary does not make it a real city. A city has people and population density. A sprawling collection of mobile home parks, strip malls and single family homes has no means to provide the services a real city provides. But the local numbskulls want to keep calling it a city, then act amazed when it fails to behave as one normally would. Also, Florida.
 
2013-02-16 03:50:10 PM  

WTF Indeed: Is the stupidity of Florida now extending into Florida headlines?


And those that green light them
 
2013-02-16 03:53:49 PM  

timujin: PhiloeBedoe: From the FFA:  In a city with close to 828,000 people, the largest city in land mass in the country, you might think an engineer to track the traffic would be a necessity.

Which city is that again?


The largest one in the continental US?  Guess the editor took the weekend off.
 
2013-02-16 04:00:28 PM  
Just give the nice cops your money and maybe they won't shoot your dog or burn you alive in a cabin.
 
2013-02-16 04:01:02 PM  
 
2013-02-16 04:02:09 PM  

vpb: When you want all the government goodies but don't want to pay taxes the revenue has to come from somewhere.  Blaming it on welfare queens doesn't work at the city level, they can't just go on borrowing forever.


Kind of like biatching about shiatty news articles when you're reading the articles on line for free.
 
wee
2013-02-16 04:02:43 PM  

Generation_D: Just because the city claims a lot of land in its annexed boundary does not make it a real cit


City limits are city limits, man.  I just listed how big those limits are, but if you want to redefine annexation or whatever, take it up with them.
 
2013-02-16 04:04:56 PM  

GAT_00: ginandbacon: How are you defining biggest?

I'm guessing that's supposed to read that Tampa is the biggest city in America that doesn't have a traffic engineer.


I'm guessing the biggest people.
 
2013-02-16 04:06:23 PM  
This is the first time I've ever seen anyone mistake Jacksonville for Tampa.

Way to fail subby!
 
2013-02-16 04:07:03 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: GAT_00: ginandbacon: How are you defining biggest?

I'm guessing that's supposed to read that Tampa is the biggest city in America that doesn't have a traffic engineer.

I'm guessing the biggest people.


I'm guessing the biggest waste of space.
 
2013-02-16 04:09:42 PM  
Still better than Portland, Oregon's traffic engineer that would rather put stop lights on on-ramps to freeways rather than have drivers education teach people how to merge at the proper speed.
 
2013-02-16 04:12:02 PM  
Lol, just pay the stupid tax and quiet down, speeders. Alternatively, find an ocean and cry into it. Your choice.
 
2013-02-16 04:19:47 PM  
Tampa is listed as the 80th largest city, in area, a little behind Athens, Georgia. (For some reason the list is numbered wrong and is missing some ranks...
 
2013-02-16 04:19:51 PM  
And.... Fark engineers fix headlines.
 
2013-02-16 04:20:32 PM  
Did someone give the mod a ticket for the incorrect headline?  Because it now reads "Jacksonville" instead of "Tampa".
 
2013-02-16 04:21:18 PM  
They should move to the Best Coast's Orange County.  The roads running between burbclaves are ridiculously fast.  There's a stretch of Irvine Blvd. near the old military base that's posted 65.  Many of the more urban stretches of road are posted 50.
 
2013-02-16 04:21:36 PM  

ginandbacon: How are you defining biggest?


Maybe by the number of rascal scooters?

/Dimensionally and population wise tampa ain't the biggest subby

Oh wait, subby was imitating the article, kick submitter in a sensitive spot

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa,_Florida
 
2013-02-16 04:21:38 PM  
*sniff* They're breaking my heart.

Obey citizen, or you will be cited.

Or, ride a bike and the speed limit isn't an issue. Assholes breaking the law in their motor vehicles will be your biggest headache.
 
2013-02-16 04:26:55 PM  
We've all just been trolled.
 
2013-02-16 04:29:55 PM  

HiFiGuy: And.... Fark engineers fix headlines.


It doesn't even crack the top 50
 
2013-02-16 04:40:28 PM  

StrikitRich: timujin: PhiloeBedoe: From the FFA:  In a city with close to 828,000 people, the largest city in land mass in the country, you might think an engineer to track the traffic would be a necessity.

Which city is that again?

The largest one in the continental US?  Guess the editor took the weekend off.


I was really referring to what seemed like PhiloeBedoe's defense of the headline with a fact that didn't pertain to the city that was originally named.

/For those just coming in, it was originally Tampa, not Jacksonville.
 
2013-02-16 04:53:29 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: HiFiGuy: And.... Fark engineers fix headlines.

It doesn't even crack the top 50


So, it's one of the biggest headline fails in the history of Fark.
 
2013-02-16 04:57:21 PM  
I think California requires speed limits be reviewed every so many years, otherwise they aren't enforceable,
 
2013-02-16 05:01:18 PM  
Jacksonville is a hole on the earth, but like many other parts of FL the beach redeems the rest of the area. If you live a walkable distance from the beach it's worth living in a city that is as backwards as Jacksonville. Nothing quite compares to coming home at night, grabbing a beer and staring at the ocean till the sun goes down.
 
2013-02-16 05:07:13 PM  

MayoSlather: Nothing quite compares to coming home at night, grabbing a beer and staring at the ocean till the sun goes down.


But when the Swedish bikini team showed up, it got better.
 
2013-02-16 05:13:37 PM  

Alphakronik: Still better than Portland, Oregon's traffic engineer that would rather put stop lights on on-ramps to freeways rather than have drivers education teach people how to merge at the proper speed.


The lights on on-ramps aren't there because people don't know how to merge, they are there to help keep the traffic spread out.   Without the lights, people will tend to merge on to the freeway right after bunch of cars pass, thus creating a slightly larger bunch of cars.   These large bunches of cars then don't have enough space to change lanes to get to their off-ramps and such.
 
2013-02-16 05:15:06 PM  

Alphakronik: Still better than Portland, Oregon's traffic engineer that would rather put stop lights on on-ramps to freeways rather than have drivers education teach people how to merge at the proper speed.


I can't even imagine how a stoplight could possibly help; unless you put them on the interstate as well, the two still need to merge eventually.
 
2013-02-16 05:15:10 PM  
I am from new orleans, lived in atlanta, nyc, and san fran, and jacksonville.

JAx has the burrito gallery, shim sham room, dos gatos, marks, uptown grill, shanty town, and is a surprisingly good town, just not the beach, which sucks balls.
 
2013-02-16 05:19:20 PM  

Sim Tree: Alphakronik: Still better than Portland, Oregon's traffic engineer that would rather put stop lights on on-ramps to freeways rather than have drivers education teach people how to merge at the proper speed.

I can't even imagine how a stoplight could possibly help; unless you put them on the interstate as well, the two still need to merge eventually.


Basically, the idea is that by putting spaces between the cars, you can create holes into which people can merge, which helps prevent traffic jams.  Without them, you just get clumps of cars and it's very difficult to change lanes into a wall of cars.
 
2013-02-16 05:20:38 PM  

MayoSlather: Jacksonville is a hole on the earth, but like many other parts of FL the beach redeems the rest of the area. If you live a walkable distance from the beach it's worth living in a city that is as backwards as Jacksonville. Nothing quite compares to coming home at night, grabbing a beer and staring at the ocean till the sun goes down.


Jax has a very small portion that consists of San Marco, Springfield, Riverside, and downtown that is a pretty good thing.  The beach sucks ass.  If you want a good beach in florida, the gulf coast rocks.  Jax and Neptune beach are nasty, as are the people that frequent it, as evidenced by the bar Petes at the beach, the Ritz, and the Lemon Bar, total redneck ass hattery.
 
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