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(Digital Spy)   National Organization for Marriage, or NOM, says that protests against Orson Scott Card are un-American. So taking a stand against a homophobe who thinks homosexuals should be imprisoned is un-American. Got it   (digitalspy.com) divider line 150
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2013-02-16 04:49:11 PM  
"NOM" refers to the sound they wish they were making with a cock in their mouths.
 
2013-02-16 05:03:18 PM  
Oh, I'm sorry, Orson, I thought people had a right to express disagreement, and decide for themselves what they want to spend their money on.

F*ck off Card, you hack.
 
2013-02-16 05:06:04 PM  
Moooorrrmmaaaannnns iiiiinnnnnn ssspppppaaaaacccceeeeee.

shiatty shiatty human being, sucking kids into his cult by sneaky Mormon brainwashing in his shiatty scifi writing.
 
2013-02-16 05:09:59 PM  
I've never read Ender's Game, buy my SIL gave me Pathfinder to read.  I thought it was pretty predictable, but interesting.  I didn't get any overt attempts politicizing his writing.

Though now that I've found all this nonsense out about him, I'm not so inclined to read the sequel.
 
2013-02-16 05:12:10 PM  
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He looks like a member of the
National
Association for
Marriage
Between
Ladies
And men
 
2013-02-16 05:12:27 PM  
Meh, who cares?

I never listen to what celebrities have to say about politics.
 
2013-02-16 05:12:56 PM  
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2013-02-16 05:14:15 PM  

Even With A Chainsaw: I've never read Ender's Game, buy my SIL gave me Pathfinder to read.  I thought it was pretty predictable, but interesting.  I didn't get any overt attempts politicizing his writing.

Though now that I've found all this nonsense out about him, I'm not so inclined to read the sequel.

the Enders Game movie comes out in December.
 
2013-02-16 05:14:47 PM  
Because using your speech rights, which is about as American as you can get, is unamerican if you use them to criticize somebody involved with NOM. Okay.
 
2013-02-16 05:16:04 PM  
His Homecoming series was cool. Except for the last book. It made absolutely no sense.
None.
Finishing an otherwise good series with a story as incomprehensible as "Earthborn" is reason enough for him to stop writing.
 
2013-02-16 05:16:20 PM  
Well, his writing sucks, so I expected he would be in favor of the gays....
 
2013-02-16 05:18:23 PM  
I thought he was a flaming liberal. Ok, he's a homophobic flaming liberal.
 
2013-02-16 05:20:26 PM  
You'd think he'd be thrilled there's gay men out there. Less guys competing for the same number of 12 year old child brides he's after.
 
2013-02-16 05:20:28 PM  
Wow, this guy is destroying his reputation right as his most well known book is about to go mainstream (with the film and all). What a schmuck.
 
2013-02-16 05:20:44 PM  
OSC's views on homnosexuality are no more radical than most of the views here on Christians/Conservatives.

/Call me wrong.
 
2013-02-16 05:22:25 PM  

Lee451: OSC's views on homnosexuality are no more radical than most of the views here on Christians/Conservatives.

/Call me wrong.


Homosexuality is natural, and something one is born as.

Christianity and Republicanism are learned behaviors that are most definitely evil and unnatural.
 
2013-02-16 05:23:06 PM  
Card sits on the board of NOM and has said that gay marriage would herald "the end of democracy in America".

you know...i'm just gonna come out and say it.  I never liked 'Ender's game'.  I felt the ending was contrived.  but...he's a writer who's actually making money off his writing while i'm just a guy with several written stories and tabletop RPG campaigns and never gotten his files organized enough to actually submit anything.  So i'm not sure my opinion amounts to much.

oh, and writers should keep their politics in their stories and not make a big deal about 'em in public.  you still gotta sell books.  STFU and be a writer, avoid politics and write stories.
 
2013-02-16 05:24:26 PM  

Lee451: OSC's views on homnosexuality are no more radical than most of the views here on Christians/Conservatives.

/Call me wrong.


I don't see gays trying to turn everyone into raging homosexuals.  the evangelical christians tho...they sure do wanna impose their beliefs on the rest of this country.
 
2013-02-16 05:27:00 PM  
I'd protest him for his shiatastic books and his obviously gay chipmunk face.
 
2013-02-16 05:29:38 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: Wow, this guy is destroying his reputation right as his most well known book is about to go mainstream (with the film and all). What a schmuck.


Well, it's more that people are discovering what anybody who had been paying attention had known for a while. In that way it's pretty similar to the Chick-Fil-A fiasco, activists had been pushing the issue for a while and just like with Dan Cathy, he handed activists a gift-wrapped present. These old homophobes don't realize that the world doesn't agree with them anymore.
 
2013-02-16 05:30:01 PM  
How did "standing up for traditional marriage" morph into "no gay marriage?" In what way does same-sex marriage prevent people from having "traditional" (WTH that is) marriages?

I think I missed a turn somewhere.
 
2013-02-16 05:31:39 PM  

Lee451: OSC's views on homnosexuality are no more radical than most of the views here on Christians/Conservatives.

/Call me wrong.


Okay, I will.

There are a few annoying militant atheists who think that religion should be banned outright, and they usually get ignored.

helphelpi'mbeingoppressed.jpg
 
2013-02-16 05:33:21 PM  

Uncle Tractor: How did "standing up for traditional marriage" morph into "no gay marriage?" In what way does same-sex marriage prevent people from having "traditional" (WTH that is) marriages?

I think I missed a turn somewhere.


Generally, people who "stand up for traditional marriage" believe that only so-called traditional marriage between a man and a woman is the only combination that should ever be allowed ever, because if two men or two women marry, their "traditional" marriages will be null and void and they will have to go out and gay marry the first person they find.

/or, because Jesus. whatever.
 
2013-02-16 05:33:22 PM  

Uncle Tractor: How did "standing up for traditional marriage" morph into "no gay marriage?" In what way does same-sex marriage prevent people from having "traditional" (WTH that is) marriages?

I think I missed a turn somewhere.


Because Fartboma will call predator drones down on them, take away their guns and make them gay marry an illegal immigrant who will then apply for welfare!!!!1!!!

WAKE UP SHEEPLE!1!!!

/kidding
 
2013-02-16 05:34:04 PM  
Pretty odd stance from a guy who traces muscular men in tiny tights for a living.
 
2013-02-16 05:34:17 PM  

1000 Ways to Dye: His Homecoming series was cool. Except for the last book. It made absolutely no sense.
None.
Finishing an otherwise good series with a story as incomprehensible as "Earthborn" is reason enough for him to stop writing.


That's because that series was literally the Book of Mormon played out in space. From character names to plot resolutions.
 
2013-02-16 05:34:19 PM  

HempHead: he Enders Game movie comes out in December.


If I do end up watching it I'll take extra special care to make sure I do so in a way that does not profit Card.

Fark that jackhole.
 
2013-02-16 05:35:33 PM  

quatchi: HempHead: he Enders Game movie comes out in December.

If I do end up watching it I'll take extra special care to make sure I do so in a way that does not profit Card.

Fark that jackhole.


I don't really care if OSC makes money off his own work.  sure, his personal politics are pretty bad...but he's got a right to his beliefs.
 
2013-02-16 05:35:40 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Lee451: OSC's views on homnosexuality are no more radical than most of the views here on Christians/Conservatives.

/Call me wrong.

Homosexuality is natural, and something one is born as.

Christianity and Republicanism are learned behaviors that are most definitely evil and unnatural.


lulz
 
2013-02-16 05:39:50 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Lee451: OSC's views on homnosexuality are no more radical than most of the views here on Christians/Conservatives.

/Call me wrong.

Homosexuality is natural, and something one is born as.

Christianity and Republicanism are learned behaviors that are most definitely evil and unnatural.


Yeah, poopers were made for penises . . . naturally.
 
2013-02-16 05:42:19 PM  
 
2013-02-16 05:42:28 PM  
Card has a lot of interesting stuff.   The Worthing Saga is one of my favorite pieces of Sci-Fi, and a lot of his other early stuff is thought-provoking.  But recently he's had a nasty habit of randomly inserting politicized nonsense in his books for no particular reason (e.g. random non-sequiter paragraphs in  The Shadow of the Hegemonabout what a horrible president Kennedy was, or the "evil Russia and China" storylines that permeate the books in the Ender reboot).
 
2013-02-16 05:43:54 PM  

chewielouie: Yeah, poopers were made for penises . . . naturally.



The animal kingdom apparently learned it from us, then.
 
2013-02-16 05:45:19 PM  

Even With A Chainsaw: I've never read Ender's Game, buy my SIL gave me Pathfinder to read.  I thought it was pretty predictable, but interesting.  I didn't get any overt attempts politicizing his writing.

Though now that I've found all this nonsense out about him, I'm not so inclined to read the sequel.


Order is very important in reading literature.  You should have started by reading Ender's Game and then quit.
 
2013-02-16 05:45:23 PM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: chewielouie: Yeah, poopers were made for penises . . . naturally.


The animal kingdom apparently learned it from us, then.


DAMN THAT MARLON PERKINS!
 
2013-02-16 05:46:01 PM  

Weaver95: quatchi: HempHead: he Enders Game movie comes out in December.

If I do end up watching it I'll take extra special care to make sure I do so in a way that does not profit Card.

Fark that jackhole.

I don't really care if OSC makes money off his own work.  sure, his personal politics are pretty bad...but he's got a right to his beliefs.


The money he makes off of his works goes into NOM's coffers though.
 
2013-02-16 05:49:57 PM  

Weaver95: I don't really care if OSC makes money off his own work.  sure, his personal politics are pretty bad...but he's got a right to his beliefs.


I don't really care if he makes other people's money off of his own work just not mine.

He has a right to his beliefs and I have a right to mine which include "you vote with your pocketbook more often and more effectively than you do your actual vote". If I enjoy an artist's work or a tv show or a movie I'll support them by buying a ticket and putting my ass in a seat or buying the dvd or box set if it's a series. If I don't support them then my squeamishness over pirated intellectual content is suddenly quashed.

In all likelihood I'll just not watch it.
 
2013-02-16 05:53:39 PM  

Lee451: OSC's views on homnosexuality are no more radical than most of the views here on Christians/Conservatives.

/Call me wrong.


You're wrong.  (Happy?)

Or are people passing laws to keep others from practicing religions they don't approve of?
 
2013-02-16 05:58:42 PM  
He wants gays imprisoned?  Subby is going to be crushed when he finds out about Santa and the Easter Bunny.
 
2013-02-16 05:59:07 PM  

Uncle Tractor: How did "standing up for traditional marriage" morph into "no gay marriage?" In what way does same-sex marriage prevent people from having "traditional" (WTH that is) marriages?

I think I missed a turn somewhere.


The same way "standing up for the white race" turned into "no black people."
 
2013-02-16 06:00:11 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Lee451: OSC's views on homnosexuality are no more radical than most of the views here on Christians/Conservatives.

/Call me wrong.

You're wrong.  (Happy?)

Or are people passing laws to keep others from practicing religions they don't approve of?


Prop 8.

Yes, people are passing laws to try to make their religion legally superior.
 
2013-02-16 06:00:17 PM  
Card is a pretty shiatty writer. Can we protest him based on that or is that also un-American?
 
2013-02-16 06:02:26 PM  
chewielouie

Yeah, poopers were made for penises . . . naturally.

God made man perfectly, in His Own Image.

As part of his intelligent design, he made men 100% compatible sexually.  We always have been, and we always will be.  There is nothing in the bible where either God or His Own Son say one word against gays.  We are perfect in the eyes of God.  That's why he loves us.

God doesn't make mistakes.
 
2013-02-16 06:04:21 PM  

firefly212: Lionel Mandrake: Lee451: OSC's views on homnosexuality are no more radical than most of the views here on Christians/Conservatives.

/Call me wrong.

You're wrong.  (Happy?)

Or are people passing laws to keep others from practicing religions they don't approve of?

Prop 8.

Yes, people are passing laws to try to make their religion legally superior.


Well, that's new...I think my point was proved at the same time I was proved wrong...or something...now I'm confused...
 
2013-02-16 06:07:47 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: firefly212: Lionel Mandrake: Lee451: OSC's views on homnosexuality are no more radical than most of the views here on Christians/Conservatives.

/Call me wrong.

You're wrong.  (Happy?)

Or are people passing laws to keep others from practicing religions they don't approve of?

Prop 8.

Yes, people are passing laws to try to make their religion legally superior.

Well, that's new...I think my point was proved at the same time I was proved wrong...or something...now I'm confused...


You asked if people were passing laws to keep others from practicing religions they don't approve of... across the country, yes, people are passing laws to restrict the legal recognition of marriage to only those religions they think are the right ones. <1% of MCC marriages in a State like Texas or California would be recognized, while 100% of Catholic marriages earn you special rights... so very much yes, people love passing some laws to try to both promote their religion and demote those they disagree with.
 
2013-02-16 06:08:03 PM  
I'm gay and I've bought, read, and enjoyed every Ender-series book. I knew he was conservative and Mormon but didn't know he was an active bigot. I also don't particularly care. I can't retroactively not enjoy his writing, and his side's going to lose whether I buy his books or not. He's wrong, and in a couple of generations virtually everyone will agree he's wrong.
 
2013-02-16 06:10:55 PM  

neongoats: Moooorrrmmaaaannnns iiiiinnnnnn ssspppppaaaaacccceeeeee.

shiatty shiatty human being, sucking kids into his cult by sneaky Mormon brainwashing in his shiatty scifi writing.


He created Battlestar Galactica?
 
2013-02-16 06:17:10 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Lee451: OSC's views on homnosexuality are no more radical than most of the views here on Christians/Conservatives.

/Call me wrong.

You're wrong.  (Happy?)

Or are people passing laws to keep others from practicing religions they don't approve of?


Christians and Republicans seem hell bent on passing laws banning Islam.
 
2013-02-16 06:21:14 PM  

studebaker hoch: chewielouie

Yeah, poopers were made for penises . . . naturally.

God made man perfectly, in His Own Image.

As part of his intelligent design, he made men 100% compatible sexually.  We always have been, and we always will be.  There is nothing in the bible where either God or His Own Son say one word against gays.  We are perfect in the eyes of God.  That's why he loves us.

God doesn't make mistakes.


The creation of Adam is the first time the Bible does not say "and it was good" after the event.
 
2013-02-16 06:24:15 PM  

neongoats: 1000 Ways to Dye: His Homecoming series was cool. Except for the last book. It made absolutely no sense.
None.
Finishing an otherwise good series with a story as incomprehensible as "Earthborn" is reason enough for him to stop writing.

That's because that series was literally the Book of Mormon played out in space. From character names to plot resolutions.


Having never read the Book of Mormon, I only had a passing knowledge of how much the series correlates with it.
Having known a few Mormans, this actually makes perfect sense.
 
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