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(Entertainment Weekly)   Switched cutie marks, 7 songs in 22 minutes, magic gone awry, and all of it is leading to a fanboy angering Princess Twilight Sparkle in the My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic season finale, 'Magical Mystery Cure', 10:30 AM on The Hub   (family-room.ew.com) divider line 214
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2013-02-16 05:36:07 PM
This question has probably been answered, but is there a Season 4 confirmed or was this it as far as we know?
 
2013-02-16 05:39:41 PM

MadCat221: Why was this season short?  Was it to make the syndication threshold point a nice clean season-end break?


For syndication you need 65 episodes, which I'm not sure is an actual rule or simply the most profitable number of episodes for syndication. Which is why season 3 was only 13 episodes.

Hasbro thought it was going to be bought by Disney, so they wanted to end the series. Alicorn Twilight was always the endgame, hence why this episode had her ascending to "Princesshood".

However, Hasbro was NOT bought by Disney, Lucasfilms was, AND I think upper-management at Hasbro noticed how numerous [and profitable] the Brony community is when John Lancie's "Bronies" documentary came out. Since the documentary came out they sent out cease and desist letters to Fighting is Magic Game and the "Friendship is Witchcraft" parody series on Youtube. They're locking down the IP.
 
2013-02-16 05:40:13 PM

Yuri Futanari: This question has probably been answered, but is there a Season 4 confirmed or was this it as far as we know?


DHX documents list them as being paid to produce a fourth season, Daniel Ingram's website shows him as working on 91 MLP episodes.

65+26=91.

So, full season 4.

/probably as official an announcement as there will be until episodes are ready.
 
2013-02-16 05:41:47 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Yuri Futanari: This question has probably been answered, but is there a Season 4 confirmed or was this it as far as we know?

DHX documents list them as being paid to produce a fourth season, Daniel Ingram's website shows him as working on 91 MLP episodes.

65+26=91.

So, full season 4.

/probably as official an announcement as there will be until episodes are ready.


Ah excellent, thanks.
 
2013-02-16 05:43:26 PM

shortymac: MadCat221: Why was this season short?  Was it to make the syndication threshold point a nice clean season-end break?

For syndication you need 65 episodes, which I'm not sure is an actual rule or simply the most profitable number of episodes for syndication. Which is why season 3 was only 13 episodes.


65 episodes is the minimum number needed to air one episode every weekday for 13 weeks, so you can get 4 airings of an entire run into one year.

The series remains fresh that way, and in the days before VCRs and DVRs and DVDpeople would keep watching each rerun cycle because by the time the run started over, they would happily watch the cycle again because they last saw it 3 months ago and it seemed new enough.
 
2013-02-16 05:46:25 PM

FirstNationalBastard: shortymac: MadCat221: Why was this season short?  Was it to make the syndication threshold point a nice clean season-end break?

For syndication you need 65 episodes, which I'm not sure is an actual rule or simply the most profitable number of episodes for syndication. Which is why season 3 was only 13 episodes.

65 episodes is the minimum number needed to air one episode every weekday for 13 weeks, so you can get 4 airings of an entire run into one year.

The series remains fresh that way, and in the days before VCRs and DVRs and DVDpeople would keep watching each rerun cycle because by the time the run started over, they would happily watch the cycle again because they last saw it 3 months ago and it seemed new enough.


Ahhhhhhhh, I see then, it's basically "tradition" now. I remember seeing that number [or something close to it] mentioned in a Community thread about whether it would get a 4th season
 
2013-02-16 05:49:35 PM

shortymac: FirstNationalBastard: shortymac: MadCat221: Why was this season short?  Was it to make the syndication threshold point a nice clean season-end break?

For syndication you need 65 episodes, which I'm not sure is an actual rule or simply the most profitable number of episodes for syndication. Which is why season 3 was only 13 episodes.

65 episodes is the minimum number needed to air one episode every weekday for 13 weeks, so you can get 4 airings of an entire run into one year.

The series remains fresh that way, and in the days before VCRs and DVRs and DVDpeople would keep watching each rerun cycle because by the time the run started over, they would happily watch the cycle again because they last saw it 3 months ago and it seemed new enough.

Ahhhhhhhh, I see then, it's basically "tradition" now. I remember seeing that number [or something close to it] mentioned in a Community thread about whether it would get a 4th season


Yeah, that number goes back to the 60s, at least. I remember first reading about that 65 episode thing in regard to The Munsters, which had 70 episodes, making it just barely perfect for Syndication.

Plus, looking back at the 90s WB animated shows, you see how stuff like Tiny Toons was ordered with one large first season of 65 episodes, and then renewed for much shorter runs afterward.
 
2013-02-16 05:54:14 PM
Caught up.

I'll be honest, I've never liked any of the season finales. The Gala, Wedding, and now the Coronation, each has been plagued with issues that annoy me.

In this case, the most evident problem is the utterly breathless pacing, bouncing around nonstop. It felt like this episode was storyboarded by Pinkie Pie on a Red Bull bender. Indeed, this has every hallmark of the series "intended" ending under the threat of the Bridge of Death.

The songs were honestly just impersonal here. It felt like generic kid show singing, rather than getting any of the personalities of the characters in them. Celestia's song was far and away the best, and I'd love to get more from her in the future (a duet with Luna could be amazing).

I think the most troubling aspect in all of it is that Celestia didn't really ask Twilight's permission to change her. Did Twilight even stop to consider the whole "you're going to watch everyone you ever love die as you stay the same age" thing? At the very least, she should have given Twilight an out to refuse if she wanted to, rather than insist she knows best. After all, she's literally been grooming Twilight for this job since Twi was a child; you could most definitely make the argument that it was unethical to manipulate a person through their whole life just to achieve your own ends, even if they're "beneficial" to them.

Honestly, did not particularly like the episode. I don't have a problem with Twilight being an alicorn, as it opens up a lot of fun new storylines they can do.
 
2013-02-16 06:03:52 PM
Also, the fact that her brother MARRIED into Royalty but Twilight became a princess of her own merit makes the feminist in me smile.

Way to turn the tables on girly show tropes! :]
 
2013-02-16 06:19:24 PM

shortymac: Also, the fact that her brother MARRIED into Royalty but Twilight became a princess of her own merit makes the feminist in me smile.

Way to turn the tables on girly show tropes! :]


Season 4 has possibilities here, too. Hasbro's content to stick with the princess stereotype in the toy stores, but what if the theme of S4 is an amplification of last week's theme, namely that leadership is damn hard work?
 
2013-02-16 06:52:55 PM

Forty-Two: My two bits:

Like most of you, I thought it felt rushed. I loved the premise of switched cutie marks, and I wanted to see more of the havoc, or at least let each resolution carry the same weight as Fluttershy regaining her purpose. They could have ended with the other five blasting Twilight and leaving a star-shaped scorch mark with a "To be continued..." but that probably would have traumatized the children in the audience. I'm okay with alicorn Twilight, but she's now princess of...what, exactly? Why does she have to be a princess at all?

/So, Twilight has her PhD. Her dissertation was only one sentence, but it took three years of research to write it.
//Favorite episode of the season, everyone? Mine was "Magic Duel."


Definitely Keep Calm And Flutter On! The look on Q's face when he realized he actually cared about losing Fluttershy's friendship... So good. Closely followed by Too Many Pinkie Pies, then Magic Duel.
 
2013-02-16 06:55:48 PM

shortymac: Also, the fact that her brother MARRIED into Royalty but Twilight became a princess of her own merit makes the feminist in me smile.

Way to turn the tables on girly show tropes! :]


I fail as a feminist for not noticing that! Facehoof! You just helped me like the ep a little more.
 
2013-02-16 07:20:11 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Shadow Blasko: HOLY CRAP!

Why can't I can't hold all these feels about a silly kids show!?

/Liquid pride is everywhere on my keyboard.
//Yesterday, that would have sounded so dirty to me.

Yesterday, Liquid Pride was something that the really weird Bronies wound up depositing in their Lyra plushies.


Pretty sure that's liquid shame.
 
2013-02-16 08:11:38 PM
I know we're getting a full 26 episode season 4, but this episode really feels like it was written as a series finale.
 
2013-02-16 08:54:46 PM

Twilight Farkle: The My Little Pony Killer: I still don't get what's supposed to be so rage-inducing about Twilight Sparkle's character development.

Me neither.

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Everything's gonna be just fine.

Aesthetically, the switch from "6 peers, 2 unicorns, 2 pegasi, 2 earth ponies" to "5 ponies and a demigod" breaks a few symmetries and feels a little weird, and from a pure storyline angle, it's a great way to end the series. Purely artistic considerations sometimes have to be sacrificed to business realities. It's still a good way to end the season and give the writers a clean slate for Season 4.


I also don't get the butthurt, because the whole damn show has been basically the progress of Twilight Sparkle through Equestrian College. :D

(Yes, seriously.  She got sent on her field study on friendship, basically earned her bachelorate in getting Princess Luna out of her Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds period; earned her Master's in dealing with Discord and Salombra; and pretty much all of her field work has been in study for what is the equivalent of a Doctorate (in that we now know that alicorn-age is apparently earned via original research in new magic, which is pretty much directly analgous to how folks earn their Ph.Ds in the human world).  Pretty much anyone who's been in college or has known someone in college beyond the Bachelorate level has known where this is going, and no, learning does NOT end when you earn a doctorate, as any MD or DO who engages in Continuing Medical Education on a yearly basis can tell you. :D)

Yes, this means that pretty much "Princess" in Equestria is equivalent to "Doctor" here, and there's probably more than a bit of Philosopher-Princess involved (someone did point out the similarity to Greek ideas of destinies of men, it's a pretty old concept really).  I, at least, find this a neat concept :D

So I say, "Congrats to the new Princess Twilight Sparkle...or if you will, Doctor Twilight Sparkle, DMSS (Doctor of Magical and Social Studies)."   Because it's pretty much the same, and no, the series is not RUINED FOREVER because Pr. Twilight Sparkle has a title and wings (no more so than learning is over when one earns a doctorate--if anything, the real learning just begins then). :D

/then again, I've been pretty much seeing the show all along as Twilight Sparkle's Journey Through Pony Graduate School :D
//of course, this also leads to the question of whether ponies in fact get tenure
 
2013-02-16 09:04:49 PM

Great Porn Dragon: Twilight Farkle: The My Little Pony Killer: I still don't get what's supposed to be so rage-inducing about Twilight Sparkle's character development.

Me neither.

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Everything's gonna be just fine.

Aesthetically, the switch from "6 peers, 2 unicorns, 2 pegasi, 2 earth ponies" to "5 ponies and a demigod" breaks a few symmetries and feels a little weird, and from a pure storyline angle, it's a great way to end the series. Purely artistic considerations sometimes have to be sacrificed to business realities. It's still a good way to end the season and give the writers a clean slate for Season 4.

I also don't get the butthurt, because the whole damn show has been basically the progress of Twilight Sparkle through Equestrian College. :D

(Yes, seriously.  She got sent on her field study on friendship, basically earned her bachelorate in getting Princess Luna out of her Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds period; earned her Master's in dealing with Discord and Salombra; and pretty much all of her field work has been in study for what is the equivalent of a Doctorate (in that we now know that alicorn-age is apparently earned via original research in new magic, which is pretty much directly analgous to how folks earn their Ph.Ds in the human world).  Pretty much anyone who's been in college or has known someone in college beyond the Bachelorate level has known where this is going, and no, learning does NOT end when you earn a doctorate, as any MD or DO who engages in Continuing Medical Education on a yearly basis can tell you. :D)

Yes, this means that pretty much "Princess" in Equestria is equivalent to "Doctor" here, and there's probably more than a bit of Philosopher-Princess involved (someone did point out the similarity to Greek ideas of destinies of men, it's a pretty old concept really).  I, at least, find this a neat concept :D

So I say, "Congrats to the new Princess Twilight Sparkle...or if you will, Doctor Twilight Sparkle, DMSS (Docto ...


Luna kept her job after a short anger-management retreat on the moon, and Cadence actually got rewarded with her own free empire after letting herself be kidnapped by Cheeselegs...they definitely have tenure.

/I'm more worried about the female-dominated pantheon we've got going, though
//can anyone name ANY male pony character that has a position of actual importance? (being wealthy does not count)
 
2013-02-16 09:15:33 PM

Great Porn Dragon:
/then again, I've been pretty much seeing the show all along as Twilight Sparkle's Journey Through Pony Graduate School :D
//of course, this also leads to the question of whether ponies in fact get tenure


This. That alicorns are few and far between, and the description of "new magic" as a particularly remarkable event, suggests that perhaps magic's a well-explored field, subject to occasional incremental improvement, but most of the work consists of improving one's skills at using existing tech. If most knowledge is siloed, cross-pollination of ideas is going to be rare, and most dissertations are going to be boring until you find someone willing to draw from other fields.

And as for tenure, isn't that just a more polite word for immortality?
 
2013-02-16 09:33:07 PM

Strolpol: Luna kept her job after a short anger-management retreat on the moon, and Cadence actually got rewarded with her own free empire after letting herself be kidnapped by Cheeselegs...they definitely have tenure.


Wasn't Cadence already in charge of the Crystal Empire a thousand years ago? When she first appeared there in the second episode of the two parter all the crystal ponies recognized her and one of them called her the Crystal Princess. She even has a crystal heart as her cutie mark. Not sure where she was when the whole King Sombra and pony slavery thing was going on though.
 
2013-02-16 09:33:19 PM
Speaking of research... Derpy was everywhere.

Bridge derpy at 0:23.
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Wet mane derp at 6:22.
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And one more Derpy at 20:30.
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2013-02-16 09:55:30 PM

Captain Steroid: Dinobot: Captain Steroid: Dinobot: Captain Steroid: the total opposite of the clusterf**k everpony had been fearing.

I dunno, I hated the 2nd half of the episode...

Spoken like someone who didn't find Derpy. :P

I -saw- Derpy, but she didnt manage to salvage the episode for me.

Not even Fluttershy's critter friends preparing "Rainbow Dash a l'Orange"?

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I'm actually a bit impressed that someone found a way to use that old cartoon trope and NOT have it be Unspeakably Racist For Modern Times :D
 
2013-02-16 09:56:09 PM
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2013-02-16 10:05:40 PM

Dinobot: Nezu Chiza: 'm not sure that logic really follows since you can clearly become an Alicorn when you weren't born one. If any race can become an Alicorn, then Alicorn's are all races, not a separate one.

However, they make it seem that you need to be a Unicorn, as its based on Magic. Pegasi and earth ponies cannot do magic, therefore are automatically excluded from transcending.


Not necessarily. It was all the elements of harmony that triggered the... whatever. I'm sure if anyone else mastered the elements to the point Twi did, they would stand a decent chance of being uplifted, too. The fact that the spell going wrong and her correction led her to realize the whole friendship Destiny thing may not be material.

Yuri Futanari: This question has probably been answered, but is there a Season 4 confirmed or was this it as far as we know?


The head writer confirmed it on her twitter.
 
2013-02-16 10:08:32 PM
 
2013-02-16 10:21:27 PM

dorkymidgetqueen: The look on Q's face when he realized he actually cared about losing Fluttershy's friendship... So good


I noticed during the original Discord eps that Discord would actually stop what he was doing to brag to whomever happened by, and show them all the "wonderful" things he's built. Discord actually seemed to believe everyone would enjoy His chaos, if the girls would only give it a chance.

If no one was there to enjoy his new universe, well then, what was the point?


Strolpol: //can anyone name ANY male pony character that has a position of actual importance? (being wealthy does not count)


Shining Armor was already Captain of the Guard.
The fashion designer that critiqued Rarity's dresses.
Soarin the Wonderbolt.
The District Judge, (who stands next to the Mayor during Pinky's Smile song).
the Chief Surgeon who patched up Dash's wing.

Doctor Whooves, of course ;)

But the mane 6 cover so much of the character archetypes spectrum, there's not generally a need for additional characters onstage, unless one of them isn't available for some reason.
 
2013-02-16 10:22:57 PM

Great Porn Dragon: I also don't get the butthurt, because the whole damn show has been basically the progress of Twilight Sparkle through Equestrian College. :D

(Yes, seriously.  She got sent on her field study on friendship, basically earned her bachelorate in getting Princess Luna out of her Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds period; earned her Master's in dealing with Discord and Salombra; and pretty much all of her field work has been in study for what is the equivalent of a Doctorate (in that we now know that alicorn-age is apparently earned via original research in new magic, which is pretty much directly analgous to how folks earn their Ph.Ds in the human world).  Pretty much anyone who's been in college or has known someone in college beyond the Bachelorate level has known where this is going, and no, learning does NOT end when you earn a doctorate, as any MD or DO who engages in Continuing Medical Education on a yearly basis can tell you. :D)

Yes, this means that pretty much "Princess" in Equestria is equivalent to "Doctor" here, and there's probably more than a bit of Philosopher-Princess involved (someone did point out the similarity to Greek ideas of destinies of men, it's a pretty old concept really).  I, at least, find this a neat concept :D

So I say, "Congrats to the new Princess Twilight Sparkle...or if you will, Doctor Twilight Sparkle, DMSS (Doctor of Magical and Social Studies)." Because it's pretty much the same, and no, the series is not RUINED FOREVER because Pr. Twilight Sparkle has a title and wings (no more so than learning is over when one earns a doctorate--if anything, the real learning just begins then). :D

/then again, I've been pretty much seeing the show all along as Twilight Sparkle's Journey Through Pony Graduate School :D
//of course, this also leads to the question of whether ponies in fact get tenure


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2013-02-16 10:29:59 PM

Skyfrog: Alicorn Day


I LOL'd. "Drink this and tell me what you learned..."

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Princessin' ain't easy.
 
2013-02-16 11:03:06 PM
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Depressing video time: Eternity's End
 
2013-02-16 11:59:46 PM

FirstNationalBastard: /No Derpy until the final two minutes of the season and no Rarity episode... how could S3 be that good?


For one thing that vapid coont Rarity didn't hog a whole Episode.
 
2013-02-17 01:20:42 AM

ArkPanda:
It seemed obvious to me that Luna's book was the spellbook Twilight was sent to finish.


i.imgur.com

I knew I forgot something this afternoon!
 
2013-02-17 01:26:19 AM

Hand Banana: [fc03.deviantart.net image 239x252]
Depressing video time: Eternity's End


That's pretty much exactly what I was talking about, in regard to Celestia springing that kind of longevity onto Twilight...that's a hell of a fate to give anyone you care about, especially when you've gone to the trouble to ensure that they would have that much to lose in the first place (by, you know, making them study friendship!).

I will say that I do prefer that they made Twilight actually earn her title over the course of three seasons, rather than simply having it gifted to her because of her birth. She's held her own against some reasonably serious threats, including those where Celestia's failed.

I'm optimistic about the future. Consider how the series would have progressed if more seasons were a given...they would probably have saved the princess stuff until the end of the series, no matter what. That was the intent behind this short season in the first place: wrap it up for syndication, then cancel it. This was essentially the finale of the series, when everything was said and done. Now that they're continuing, they have a lot more leeway to try new stuff, and the princess thing will probably lead to some interesting insight into just how Equestria's run in the first place. In addition, this frees the writers up to take Twilight on the road, since she probably has to travel for her work (wherever Celestia needs something done). Add in a few choice ponies to go with, and then you've got an adventure series like Ducktales, where you can use the protagonists' resources to justify crazy adventures outside the home town.
 
2013-02-17 10:13:08 AM

Skyfrog: Strolpol: Luna kept her job after a short anger-management retreat on the moon, and Cadence actually got rewarded with her own free empire after letting herself be kidnapped by Cheeselegs...they definitely have tenure.

Wasn't Cadence already in charge of the Crystal Empire a thousand years ago? When she first appeared there in the second episode of the two parter all the crystal ponies recognized her and one of them called her the Crystal Princess. She even has a crystal heart as her cutie mark. Not sure where she was when the whole King Sombra and pony slavery thing was going on though.


I've been imagining Cadence as a sort of Anastasia figure, or an indirect descendant of the princess who was deposed by Sombra. Celestia probably knew, which would be why she sent Cadence up there to look after the empire when it reappeared.

However, I do have a problem with Equestria being a kingdom that contains the Crystal Empire within. Empires are bigger than kingdoms, but everything in the show has indicated that Celestia is still Cadence's overlord, politically. Or perhaps it was actually an Empire a thousand years ago, and is just keeping the name out of tradition.
 
2013-02-17 10:28:45 AM

precia: Cadence


*facepalm*
 
2013-02-17 12:14:53 PM

Madbassist1: precia: Cadence

*facepalm*


My word, did I spell it wrong, following the lead of the Farker I was replying to? I'm a moron, and a terrible person. I shall go into exile.

fark off.
 
2013-02-17 12:48:13 PM

precia: Madbassist1: precia: Cadence

*facepalm*

My word, did I spell it wrong, following the lead of the Farker I was replying to? I'm a moron, and a terrible person. I shall go into exile.

fark off.


Not at all. It's spelled correctly as far as I use it, and the post is not a slight against you at all, other than you are an adult who is a fan of a stoopid cartoon (I like Justice League, myself) Some of the software I work with is called "Cadence", that's all. Nothing personal.
 
2013-02-17 01:50:03 PM

Strolpol: you've got an adventure series like Ducktales, where you can use the protagonists' resources to justify crazy adventures outside the home town.


I think that's more what Lauren Faust had in mind at the beginning, too: adventure episodes to go with the 'slice of life' ones, like the the season premiers and finales. I wonder if there are any backburner episodes hanging around that this would allow them to use, especially for the season 4 premier.
 
2013-02-17 02:00:52 PM

Madbassist1: precia: Madbassist1: precia: Cadence

*facepalm*

My word, did I spell it wrong, following the lead of the Farker I was replying to? I'm a moron, and a terrible person. I shall go into exile.

fark off.

Not at all. It's spelled correctly as far as I use it, and the post is not a slight against you at all, other than you are an adult who is a fan of a stoopid cartoon (I like Justice League, myself) Some of the software I work with is called "Cadence", that's all. Nothing personal.


Technically I did spell it wrong, as the character is Cadance with an a. Hasbro actually (mis)spelled it with the e for a little while, and the e is much more instinctual, which is why I didn't bother to look it up before posting.

I'm not bothered by people thinking I have silly taste in entertainment, simply because I am an adult and do not need constant approval from others. It does bother me when people act all holier-than-thou and pretend that they don't like a single thing not directly targeted at their demographic. I don't think I know a single adult who doesn't have at least one guilty pleasure, but I personally try to reject the "guilty" part of that and refuse to feel bad for liking something. While I don't consider myself to be part of the larger brony subculture, I do appreciate that they are unashamed of their hobby. I think we should all embrace our dorkier hobbies, whatever they may be - Ponies, JLA, model trains, Star Wars...

But your apparent nitpicking did bug the hell out of me. :p I think we're good now though.
 
2013-02-17 04:49:50 PM
So are the same folks trolling the Pony threads trolling the Doctor Who threads?

I haven't been paying attention.
 
2013-02-17 05:39:08 PM

ravenlore: So are the same folks trolling the Pony threads trolling the Doctor Who threads?

I haven't been paying attention.


The wrestling threads too. Don't forget them.
 
2013-02-18 12:36:17 AM
Finally catching up to this episode.  IMO, an appearance by DJ-P0N3 makes it all worth it.  :D
 
2013-02-18 12:51:08 AM
knowing that this was supposed to be the series finale, this is a damn good episode.

The scene where Twilight meets Celestia in the the ether reminded me of Picard meeting Q in the afterlife.
 
2013-02-18 02:46:19 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: knowing that this was supposed to be the series finale, this is a damn good episode.

The scene where Twilight meets Celestia in the the ether reminded me of Picard meeting Q in the afterlife.


Twilight is actually dead, the Elements killed her when she miscast the spell and it's really her in the afterlife for real now. Everything after that is her personal heaven...or hell.
 
2013-02-18 03:48:39 AM
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It's a stretch on this card, but I'll give S3 a bingo.

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Get your Season 4 cards ready!
 
2013-02-18 08:05:37 AM
Finally got to watching.  My thoughts as they happened:

* And that is why we don't cast spells we don't understand, Captain Science.
* Five ponies.  Five cutie marks.  Only... 120 permutations.  Just brute force it.  (This is why I am not a princess.)
* Well, this plot thread is being resolved quickly.
* "Townspeople"?  I will end you, Ingram.
* Again, that is why we DO NOT cast spells we don't understand.
* Just a guess, but I'm thinking I should have watched 2001: A Space Odyssey first.
* "What did I do?"  "For starters, nearly destroyed Ponyville.  Again."
* Wait, are we in Princess Celestia's iTunes library?
* Congratulations!  Your TWISPARKLE evolved into TWILICORN!  (Shoulda pressed B.)
* I know I've seen that spit-take gag before.  Still funny.
* So what about the other three princesses?  Were any of them born alicorns or did they each ascend at some point?
* Which reminds me: I hope Princess Skyla is in S4, just to fark with the headcanon some people are going to take from this episode.

Overall... meh.  And it sickens me that I have to use that word about a season finale.  It would have been better as a two-parter, as others have noted, but even then it seems like it would fall flat.  After all the epic challenges she's faced, Twilight gets promoted for a damn fill-in-the-blank test?  (Unless the upgrade was specifically an effect of Star Swirl's spell.  In which case, holy crap they have instant alicornification now.)
 
2013-02-18 12:24:52 PM

Olympic Trolling Judge: Just a guess, but I'm thinking I should have watched 2001: A Space Odyssey first.


You could always watch 2012: A Pony Odyssey.
 
2013-02-18 01:23:50 PM

Madbassist1: ravenlore: So are the same folks trolling the Pony threads trolling the Doctor Who threads?

I haven't been paying attention.

The wrestling threads too. Don't forget them.



Hell, they were trolling the Homestar Runner threads bloody ten years ago.
 
2013-02-18 01:30:10 PM

Sim Tree: Madbassist1: ravenlore: So are the same folks trolling the Pony threads trolling the Doctor Who threads?

I haven't been paying attention.

The wrestling threads too. Don't forget them.


Hell, they were trolling the Homestar Runner threads bloody ten years ago.


Wow, that's a blast from the past.  I wonder if Strongbad ever upgraded to Gmail?

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2013-02-18 02:43:01 PM

Olympic Trolling Judge: After all the epic challenges she's faced, Twilight gets promoted for a damn fill-in-the-blank test? (Unless the upgrade was specifically an effect of Star Swirl's spell. In which case, holy crap they have instant alicornification now.)


Or (and this is my personal theory) apparently magical spell creation in Equestria is roughly akin to proofs of theorems in mathematics--you have cases of "OK, this mathematician never could prove X theorem because either mathematics wasn't that far along yet or he died before getting a formal proof out" and folks going for doctorates in mathematics going for proofs of these theorems as their graduate thesis...or hell, just to pretty much show their worth in mathematics.

Basically (to put it in maths terms) Twilight Sparkle found a new innovative magical solution by a working proof of Luna's Theorem Of...Something (and being acquainted with friendship whilst poor Luna IS FOREVER ALONE, had the necessary backgrounder for the research).

Seriously, this happens more often than one thinks, especially when one starts getting into the more theoretical fields like higher maths :D

/disclaimer--was EMCS major in college before computer science was split into its own field
//has taken me quite some time to get normal maths back
 
2013-02-18 02:47:23 PM

Great Porn Dragon: Olympic Trolling Judge: After all the epic challenges she's faced, Twilight gets promoted for a damn fill-in-the-blank test? (Unless the upgrade was specifically an effect of Star Swirl's spell. In which case, holy crap they have instant alicornification now.)

Or (and this is my personal theory) apparently magical spell creation in Equestria is roughly akin to proofs of theorems in mathematics--you have cases of "OK, this mathematician never could prove X theorem because either mathematics wasn't that far along yet or he died before getting a formal proof out" and folks going for doctorates in mathematics going for proofs of these theorems as their graduate thesis...or hell, just to pretty much show their worth in mathematics.

Basically (to put it in maths terms) Twilight Sparkle found a new innovative magical solution by a working proof of Luna's Theorem Of...Something (and being acquainted with friendship whilst poor Luna IS FOREVER ALONE, had the necessary backgrounder for the research).

Seriously, this happens more often than one thinks, especially when one starts getting into the more theoretical fields like higher maths :D

/disclaimer--was EMCS major in college before computer science was split into its own field
//has taken me quite some time to get normal maths back


And more specifically (to expound on it and avoid confusion)--Star Swirl's spell was the original "theorem", Luna had tried (and failed) to make a working proof, and Twilight Sparkle (via first her own failed proof and later realising the point of failure of Luna's proof) did a working proof with new knowledge.  Again, this is how proofs (and doctorates) in maths work all the time; prolly works the same for Equestrian magical studies :D
 
2013-02-18 04:26:59 PM
Season 3 could either end up being "We don't talk about Season 3" or it could really end up being the shark-jumping point into a downward spiral (I'm sorry guys, I just was not that impressed with this season)

That said, there is one thing I am very much looking forward to in Season 4.

I am so hoping to hear Discord address Twilight as "Princess" with his voice dripping sarcasm as only John De Lancie can.
 
2013-02-18 04:56:31 PM

ravenlore: Season 3 could either end up being "We don't talk about Season 3" or it could really end up being the shark-jumping point into a downward spiral (I'm sorry guys, I just was not that impressed with this season)

That said, there is one thing I am very much looking forward to in Season 4.

I am so hoping to hear Discord address Twilight as "Princess" with his voice dripping sarcasm as only John De Lancie can.


S4 will be fine unless it becomes The Twilight Sparkle Show...



Also, many of the complaints coulda have been put to rest if it had gone like this


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