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(TMZ)   Woman calls police to get them to force Terrell Owens to leave her property. Cowboys and 49ers fans wish they had known it was that easy   (tmz.com) divider line 18
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2013-02-16 01:20:19 PM  
She lucky that the LAPD didnt mistake him for Dorner and machine gun him on her doorstep then burn down the house
 
2013-02-16 01:41:01 PM  
Terrell Owens and Ochocinco are the male equivalent of hot chicks.  When they're doing what we want them to do, it's easy enough to overlook their stupid, hollow selves.  But once they stop being relevant, it'd be nice if they could just DIAF.
 
2013-02-16 01:41:58 PM  
Can't TO stay out of trouble for one offseason?  I was hoping someone would pick him up, but his light at the end of his tunnel seems to be flickering just a little more each day.  It's a shame that people will remember him for this crap and not the awesomeness he displayed every Sunday on the field.
 
2013-02-16 01:45:35 PM  

JohnnyRebel88: Can't TO stay out of trouble for one offseason?  I was hoping someone would pick him up, but his light at the end of his tunnel seems to be flickering just a little more each day.  It's a shame that people will remember him for this crap and not the awesomeness he displayed every Sunday on the field.


The awesomeness of dropping passes?

He was really good for about six years, but so were Irving Fryar, John Taylor, Webster Slaughter, Andre Reed, and Herman Moore. They were all nowhere near the locker room and sideline cancer that TO was.
 
2013-02-16 01:47:48 PM  

TiiiMMMaHHH: Terrell Owens and Ochocinco are the male equivalent of hot chicks.  When they're doing what we want them to do, it's easy enough to overlook their stupid, hollow selves.  But once they stop being relevant, it'd be nice if they could just DIAF.


I agree with your assessment to a point.. TO was one of the best, and Ochocinco was supposed to be one of the elite, but never met up to his hype.  The only thing they have in common is probably the judges they went in front of or the glorification and self-promotion of their "greatness", or lack of.  Terrell Owens is and will be a HOF player, the Cinco... never
 
2013-02-16 01:52:10 PM  
Maybe he just wants to clean her gutters or rake the yard.  Sounds like he needs the cash.
 
2013-02-16 01:52:36 PM  

JohnnyRebel88: TiiiMMMaHHH: Terrell Owens and Ochocinco are the male equivalent of hot chicks.  When they're doing what we want them to do, it's easy enough to overlook their stupid, hollow selves.  But once they stop being relevant, it'd be nice if they could just DIAF.

I agree with your assessment to a point.. TO was one of the best, and Ochocinco was supposed to be one of the elite, but never met up to his hype.  The only thing they have in common is probably the judges they went in front of or the glorification and self-promotion of their "greatness", or lack of.  Terrell Owens is and will be a HOF player, the Cinco... never


HOF players don't usually buy into a CFL/Arena team just to get a roster spot.  HOF is for legacies, not egomaniacs who are freakishly fit.  He put up some numbers, but in the end, people want nothing to do with the bipolar POS.  Including this woman.
 
2013-02-16 01:53:41 PM  
UNC_Samurai:

The awesomeness of dropping passes?

If he dropped so many passes, why would he have "caught" and broke Jerry Rice's record?  Can't do that by dropping passes and a QB would not continue to throw someone the ball if this were true.  If you are speaking only about Chad Johnson, I would have to agree with you.  Hit the mute button for Terrell's career and anyone would agree that he was an elite WR and could of been productive for 3-4 years after his forced retirement.
 
2013-02-16 01:58:55 PM  

JohnnyRebel88: UNC_Samurai:

The awesomeness of dropping passes?

If he dropped so many passes, why would he have "caught" and broke Jerry Rice's record?  Can't do that by dropping passes and a QB would not continue to throw someone the ball if this were true.  If you are speaking only about Chad Johnson, I would have to agree with you.  Hit the mute button for Terrell's career and anyone would agree that he was an elite WR and could of been productive for 3-4 years after his forced retirement.


receivers get too much credit.  They  KNOW where the ball is going to be thrown.  They have to get there, and trick the DB in the process.  Then there's the 'skilled' catching of the ball.  Guys like TO who are 6' 6" have hands that could easily palm a basketball.  He's not HOF material, or apparently even wranglers material.  Overrated is overrated, no matter how much you want to like the guy
 
2013-02-16 02:13:28 PM  

TiiiMMMaHHH: JohnnyRebel88: UNC_Samurai:

The awesomeness of dropping passes?

receivers get too much credit.  They  KNOW where the ball is going to be thrown.  They have to get there, and trick the DB in the process.  Then there's the 'skilled' catching of the ball.  Guys like TO who are 6' 6" have hands that could easily palm a basketball.  He's not HOF material, or apparently even wranglers material.  Overrated is overrated, no matter how much you want to like the guy


I just won't budge on my stance here and I can see you aren't either.  Consider this:  He played with Jerry Rice the first 4 years of his career as well.  He helped the Eagles and the Cowboys, and he played almost 100 games less than Rice.  If he were to average 50yds a game for these games that were not played, he would of destroyed Jerry's record.  I am using Rice as the standard, because he has set the bar.  The voters need to take off-field problems out of the equation.  This isn't the MLB where we are arguing about the steroid era, because that is a difficult one to figure out, but as a player, I think TO was probably in the top 7 receivers of all time.  I can't name 5 better players offhand, but I am sure I could think of 1 or 2.  I guess we shall agree to disagree.

Chad Johnson was just a disappointment for what he was supposed to be, he just didn't pan out and won't leave the NFL spotlight.
 
2013-02-16 04:37:28 PM  

JohnnyRebel88: TiiiMMMaHHH: JohnnyRebel88: UNC_Samurai:

The awesomeness of dropping passes?

receivers get too much credit.  They  KNOW where the ball is going to be thrown.  They have to get there, and trick the DB in the process.  Then there's the 'skilled' catching of the ball.  Guys like TO who are 6' 6" have hands that could easily palm a basketball.  He's not HOF material, or apparently even wranglers material.  Overrated is overrated, no matter how much you want to like the guy

I just won't budge on my stance here and I can see you aren't either.  Consider this:  He played with Jerry Rice the first 4 years of his career as well.  He helped the Eagles and the Cowboys, and he played almost 100 games less than Rice.  If he were to average 50yds a game for these games that were not played, he would of destroyed Jerry's record.  I am using Rice as the standard, because he has set the bar.  The voters need to take off-field problems out of the equation.  This isn't the MLB where we are arguing about the steroid era, because that is a difficult one to figure out, but as a player, I think TO was probably in the top 7 receivers of all time.  I can't name 5 better players offhand, but I am sure I could think of 1 or 2.  I guess we shall agree to disagree.


I think the over-arching debate is whether character should count in the NFL HoF.  Clearly, LT is in there, so it hasn't thus far.  But do guys like Ray Lewis and TO belong?  I say snub em as a way of transitioning the NFL HoF to something more honorable.  That way, you teach the rookies that character DOES count, and not having it WILL cost you at the end.  Otherwise, the stereotype of getting drunk and getting into deadly altercations (hence the ray lewis comment) during the offseason will continue to be solidified.  Character should matter.

Another way to look at it is this:  Wes Welker SHOULDN'T be in the hall of fame, despite his crazy numbers.  He drops key passes in the postseason, and he's a benefactor in the patriot way.  He's also one of the biggest reasons the patriots cant close in the playoffs.  That should keep him out.  Being a patriots fan, I know all too well how this guy can cost you when it counts.

/start with improving player character.  then force the same from the brass.  The NFL needs some redemption, it's swirling around the bowl.
 
2013-02-16 04:45:22 PM  

TiiiMMMaHHH: JohnnyRebel88: TiiiMMMaHHH: Terrell Owens and Ochocinco are the male equivalent of hot chicks.  When they're doing what we want them to do, it's easy enough to overlook their stupid, hollow selves.  But once they stop being relevant, it'd be nice if they could just DIAF.

I agree with your assessment to a point.. TO was one of the best, and Ochocinco was supposed to be one of the elite, but never met up to his hype.  The only thing they have in common is probably the judges they went in front of or the glorification and self-promotion of their "greatness", or lack of.  Terrell Owens is and will be a HOF player, the Cinco... never

HOF players don't usually buy into a CFL/Arena team just to get a roster spot.  HOF is for legacies, not egomaniacs who are freakishly fit.  He put up some numbers, but in the end, people want nothing to do with the bipolar POS.  Including this woman.


TO is 6th alltime in receptions, 3rd in TD catches, and 2nd in yards.  If that's not HoF-worthy, then let's leave Rice (and maybe add Moss) in and kick every other receiver out.
 
2013-02-16 04:54:40 PM  

TiiiMMMaHHH: receivers get too much credit. They KNOW where the ball is going to be thrown. They have to get there, and trick the DB in the process. Then there's the 'skilled' catching of the ball. Guys like TO who are 6' 6" have hands that could easily palm a basketball. He's not HOF material, or apparently even wranglers material. Overrated is overrated, no matter how much you want to like the guy


I disagree about WRs getting credit - if the position were that easy, Charles Rogers, Troy Williamson, and David Terrell would be perennial Pro Bowlers - but Owens was a promising young receiver who became a complete head case once the veteran leadership left the 49ers locker room.  Once guys like Steve Young, Jerry Rice, and Tim McDonald were gone, no one in the clubhouse could put TO back in line.  I believe he became complacent, and allowed his talent to carry him.

Take a look at his stats once he leaves San Francisco:

2004:  In 14 games, he catches 77 passes for 1200 yards and 14 TDs.  Assuming he had maintained his receptions per game had he not been injured, he would have finished with 88 - tying him with Eric Moulds for 10th that year.  His yardage would have put him 5th, between Torry Holt and Issac Bruce.  Now, he likely would have tied Mushin Muhammad for a league-leading 16 TDs.  So that's a good season, on par with his three peak years with San Fran (2000-02).

2005:  In 7 games, he came away with 47 catches, 763 yards, and 6 TDs.  If we extrapolate those stats out to a full 16-game season, he'd have 107 Receptions, 1744 Yds, and 14 TDs.  That would have been league-leading across the board...but that season was abbreviated because of Owens' temper tantrums.  He wiped out what could have been one of the best WR seasons to date because of his own immature actions.

2006:  In his first season with Dallas:  85, 1180, 13.  That was good enough for 13th, 9th, and 1st. All that despite jeopardizing his productivity with the whole overdosing nonsense.

2007:  81 (20th), 1355 (5th), 15 (3rd).  A Pro Bowl season, but he was still lagging in receptions because of his drops.

2008:  69 (28th), 1052 (13th), 10 (6th).  His 13 season was his last productive one.

2009:  51st in receptions, 33rd in yards, 42nd in TDs

2010:  20th, 18th, 15th

That's not exactly Hall of Fame-level numbers for an era when passing statistics were skyrocketing.  He only leads the league in the big three categories three times in his career - TDs in 2001, 2002, and 2006.  PFR lists players of similar statistical careers:  Raymond Berry*, Steve Largent*, Rod Smith, Tim Brown, Marvin Harrison, Randy Moss, Isaac Bruce, Jimmy Smith, Cris Carter*, James Lofton*.

So his numbers are HoF worthy...if he played the majority of his career before 2000.  The players on that list who played at least a significant portion of their career after 2000 are Rod Smith, Marvin Harrison, Randy Moss, Issac Bruce, and to a lesser extent Jimmy Smith.  I don't think you can make a case for any of those guys except for Moss as HoF candidates - and Moss is a whole set of issues all unto himself (should the writers vote for a player who admitted to taking plays off, and walking off the field when his team potentially needed him should an onside kick succeeed?).
 
2013-02-16 04:57:35 PM  

UNC_Samurai: TiiiMMMaHHH: receivers get too much credit. They KNOW where the ball is going to be thrown. They have to get there, and trick the DB in the process. Then there's the 'skilled' catching of the ball. Guys like TO who are 6' 6" have hands that could easily palm a basketball. He's not HOF material, or apparently even wranglers material. Overrated is overrated, no matter how much you want to like the guy

I disagree about WRs getting credit - if the position were that easy, Charles Rogers, Troy Williamson, and David Terrell would be perennial Pro Bowlers - but Owens was a promising young receiver who became a complete head case once the veteran leadership left the 49ers locker room.  Once guys like Steve Young, Jerry Rice, and Tim McDonald were gone, no one in the clubhouse could put TO back in line.  I believe he became complacent, and allowed his talent to carry him.

Take a look at his stats once he leaves San Francisco:

2004:  In 14 games, he catches 77 passes for 1200 yards and 14 TDs.  Assuming he had maintained his receptions per game had he not been injured, he would have finished with 88 - tying him with Eric Moulds for 10th that year.  His yardage would have put him 5th, between Torry Holt and Issac Bruce.  Now, he likely would have tied Mushin Muhammad for a league-leading 16 TDs.  So that's a good season, on par with his three peak years with San Fran (2000-02).

2005:  In 7 games, he came away with 47 catches, 763 yards, and 6 TDs.  If we extrapolate those stats out to a full 16-game season, he'd have 107 Receptions, 1744 Yds, and 14 TDs.  That would have been league-leading across the board...but that season was abbreviated because of Owens' temper tantrums.  He wiped out what could have been one of the best WR seasons to date because of his own immature actions.

2006:  In his first season with Dallas:  85, 1180, 13.  That was good enough for 13th, 9th, and 1st. All that despite jeopardizing his productivity with the whole overdosing nonsense.

2007:  81 ...


The era changes things, given how many more passes are caught nowadays, but TO's 6th alltime in catches, 3rd in TD catches, and 2nd in yards.  That's Hall of Fame.

Yes, just about every season he played, someone else had a better year.  But not the same guy (except maybe Moss, who was very hit or miss year to year.)  It's not like you can put TO behind any of his contemporaries, other than Moss.
 
2013-02-16 04:58:35 PM  
yeah it was real obvious TO was a huge problem in Dallas, it has been smooth sailing ever since he left
 
2013-02-16 04:58:44 PM  

TiiiMMMaHHH: JohnnyRebel88: TiiiMMMaHHH: JohnnyRebel88: UNC_Samurai:

Character should matter.


I agree 100%, but it doesn't.  That is why I said to mute TO and disregard what he did off the field and just watch his play.

The only way to achieve a better class or create some moral fabric in the NFL is to have them complete college, but if they do this, I believe they should pay the player, as they make a ton of cash for the school.  The school is the pimp and the player being the whore in this case.  This will give them some responsibility as to having a couple bucks in their hands while in school and hopefully learn responsibility.  Also make them take regular curriculum, no basket weaving etc...
 
2013-02-16 10:52:11 PM  
Musta been off his meds.
 
2013-02-17 04:51:29 PM  

Dafatone: It's not like you can put TO behind any of his contemporaries, other than Moss.


I can entertain arguments to put him behind Larry Fitzgerald, Steve Smith, Torry Holt, and Andre Johnson.
 
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