If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Yahoo)   Roger Goddell's punishment for the replacement referee fiasco, growing player lawsuits over head injuries, a complete mismanagement of the Saints bounty scandal and increasing concerns over PEDs will be an extra $30 million in his bank account   (sports.yahoo.com) divider line 27
    More: Asinine, Roger Goodell, head injuries, NFL, killer, Arthur Blank, Jeff Pash, commissioners, executive pay  
•       •       •

382 clicks; posted to Sports » on 16 Feb 2013 at 11:10 AM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



27 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread
 
2013-02-16 11:13:37 AM
sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net
FIRE THIS MAN!
 
2013-02-16 11:21:17 AM
The fact is, Roger Goodell is employed by the owners and they feel that he represents their interests well. The fact that he is unpopular with the fans and the players is irrelevant unless and until it affects the bottom line.
 
2013-02-16 11:26:55 AM

Wolsey: The fact is, Roger Goodell is employed by the owners and they feel that he represents their interests well. The fact that he is unpopular with the fans and the players is irrelevant unless and until it affects the bottom line.


Then I guess our only hope is some former player with brain damage taking him out.  None of what he does is done for the good for the game, not one little bit.  He's only started caring about the brain damage stuff because he doesn't want the league to be sued over it.  And most of the rest of it just plain isn't good for the game.
 
2013-02-16 11:36:56 AM
Have they asked him to restructure that or to take a pay cup to keep the league under its cap?
 
2013-02-16 11:37:34 AM

Robert1966: Have they asked him to restructure that or to take a pay cup cut to keep the league under its cap?


FTFM
 
2013-02-16 12:01:31 PM
Why not? He had a great year, and so did the people who paid him. $30M is a drop in the bucket compared to the money he made or saved them. (Although it's a hell of a lot more than the entire referee settlement, but that's not the point.)

You may think that his job has something to do with a sport, or bringing that sport to people who enjoy watching it. You'd be wrong.
 
2013-02-16 12:21:39 PM
Hmmm... Why would the replacement refs and bounty gate -- two events tht hadnt happened yet -- affect his  2011 remuneration' subby?
 
2013-02-16 12:41:39 PM
pauloflaherty.com
 
2013-02-16 12:46:32 PM
i1222.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-16 12:52:32 PM

semiotix: Why not? He had a great year, and so did the people who paid him. $30M is a drop in the bucket compared to the money he made or saved them. (Although it's a hell of a lot more than the entire referee settlement, but that's not the point.)

You may think that his job has something to do with a sport, or bringing that sport to people who enjoy watching it. You'd be wrong.


Yep, the NFL is all about money, and they make WAY more per game played than any other sport in the US (not sure about soccer overseas, or F1).

It's going to be verrrry interesting how the whole brain damage thing plays out, though. How liable can the NFL be? Can it be proven that they knew the long-term effects and just covered it up? Even if that can be proven, can "it's a violent game, they know what they were getting into" be a valid defense?

Quite honestly, I love the NFL, and I don't like the direction it's going, and it seems like Goodell and his crew are in full "cover your ass" mode when it comes to these questions. At this rate, it's going to be flag football in 5 years.
 
2013-02-16 01:00:56 PM
Here's an idea:  STOP PAYING!

seriously.  between wiziwig and streamhunter, no one needs to pay a dime for football.  Lets just boycott this hot mess, so that they become desperate to listen.

/Replacement refs were a scam.  Just a way to make us love the douchebags who decide super bowls based on the vegas odds.
 
2013-02-16 01:02:08 PM
Mismanaged the Saints scandal?

2010, uncapped season, three teams didn't follow the salary cap line set by the other 29.  Washington, Dallas and the Saints.

Washington and Dallas receive substantial salary cap punishments from the league.  Brought on by the owner of...  the NFL's darling NY Giants.

Uh oh, division rivals who get four shots a year at revenge?  Better come up with something

Saints, smashed with bountygate.   Bounties which every team in the league had then, were openly common in the past and likely go on today.

Move forward to December 11, 2012.  Two days after the Saints play their only game versus the Giants, oh, and Washington and Dallas have finished their games against the Giants by then too.   Blame deflector Tagliabue announces, eh, forget about that bounty stuff.

Yeah, that was really mismanaged wasn't it.
 
2013-02-16 01:04:39 PM
growing player lawsuits over head injuries

Not to defend Roger Goddell, but I don't think you can pin that one on him (either the head injuries or the lawsuits).  If the NFL has been covering up knowledge or at least ignoring concussion facts that it possessed, that likely goes back decades.

increasing concerns over PEDs

This, too.  See also, Lyle Alzado.

Whether it's from external pressure, including lawsuits, or care for players health, I think these are getting addressed by the current regime where they hadn't really been in the past.
 
2013-02-16 01:41:41 PM
a complete mismanagement of the Saints bounty scandal

applejack.ponychan.net
 
2013-02-16 02:35:15 PM

InfrasonicTom: Mismanaged the Saints scandal?

2010, uncapped season, three teams didn't follow the salary cap line set by the other 29.  Washington, Dallas and the Saints.

Washington and Dallas receive substantial salary cap punishments from the league.  Brought on by the owner of...  the NFL's darling NY Giants.

Uh oh, division rivals who get four shots a year at revenge?  Better come up with something

Saints, smashed with bountygate.   Bounties which every team in the league had then, were openly common in the past and likely go on today.

Move forward to December 11, 2012.  Two days after the Saints play their only game versus the Giants, oh, and Washington and Dallas have finished their games against the Giants by then too.   Blame deflector Tagliabue announces, eh, forget about that bounty stuff.

Yeah, that was really mismanaged wasn't it.


I don't follow.
 
2013-02-16 03:01:26 PM
Yeah, $30 mil sounds about right.

/interesting fact (at least to me): the NFL is a non-profit
//not the teams, but the league
 
2013-02-16 03:13:02 PM

Slow To Return: InfrasonicTom: Mismanaged the Saints scandal?

2010, uncapped season, three teams didn't follow the salary cap line set by the other 29.  Washington, Dallas and the Saints.

Washington and Dallas receive substantial salary cap punishments from the league.  Brought on by the owner of...  the NFL's darling NY Giants.

Uh oh, division rivals who get four shots a year at revenge?  Better come up with something

Saints, smashed with bountygate.   Bounties which every team in the league had then, were openly common in the past and likely go on today.

Move forward to December 11, 2012.  Two days after the Saints play their only game versus the Giants, oh, and Washington and Dallas have finished their games against the Giants by then too.   Blame deflector Tagliabue announces, eh, forget about that bounty stuff.

Yeah, that was really mismanaged wasn't it.

I don't follow.


He's saying Goodell is a puppet of the Maras, even more so than the other owners.
 
rka
2013-02-16 03:30:26 PM
Don't talk about another man's woman or another man's money.
 
2013-02-16 04:37:04 PM

Choo-Choo Bear: Not to defend Roger Goddell, but I don't think you can pin that one on him (either the head injuries or the lawsuits). If the NFL has been covering up knowledge or at least ignoring concussion facts that it possessed, that likely goes back decades.


It's not like he was hired to be commissioner out of the blue, he worked his way up.  Any coverups that existed, he was probably a part of.

He shouldn't get credit for the NFL being so successful though, it's a good product that people love.  It's like a pimp getting credit for blowjobs being so great.
 
2013-02-16 11:24:59 PM

gwowen: Hmmm... Why would the replacement refs and bounty gate -- two events tht hadnt happened yet -- affect his  2011 remuneration' subby?


Because taint fans are constantly butt hurt over the fact he exposed the team for paying players they couldn't afford otherwise. And they cant win without that cheating aspect so they wine about it......

The replacement refs is the one thing he had control over and the fact remains they didn't do that bad but they did slow down the pace of the game which hurt them more than any publicity over a single bad call.
 
2013-02-16 11:25:36 PM

FriarReb98: Then I guess our only hope is some former player with brain damage taking him out.


You might be taking this whole thing just a tad too seriously.
 
2013-02-16 11:41:23 PM

InfrasonicTom: Mismanaged the Saints scandal?

2010, uncapped season, three teams didn't follow the salary cap line set by the other 29.  Washington, Dallas and the Saints.

Washington and Dallas receive substantial salary cap punishments from the league.  Brought on by the owner of...  the NFL's darling NY Giants.

Uh oh, division rivals who get four shots a year at revenge?  Better come up with something

Saints, smashed with bountygate.   Bounties which every team in the league had then, were openly common in the past and likely go on today.

Move forward to December 11, 2012.  Two days after the Saints play their only game versus the Giants, oh, and Washington and Dallas have finished their games against the Giants by then too.   Blame deflector Tagliabue announces, eh, forget about that bounty stuff.

Yeah, that was really mismanaged wasn't it.


I don't remember the saints flouting the cap rules but the skins and giants did, they deserved their punishment because signing guys to a 4 year deal but paying for 2-3 years in the first year of the deal was cheating.

Likewise for the saints who were warned 3 times to knock it off, even the owner was warned and informed the coaches to quit yet they didn't so they got the punishment they deserved as well. Probably not though, sean deserved to be suspended longer since he was in charge when the payments started.
 
2013-02-16 11:43:44 PM

Choo-Choo Bear: growing player lawsuits over head injuries

Not to defend Roger Goddell, but I don't think you can pin that one on him (either the head injuries or the lawsuits).  If the NFL has been covering up knowledge or at least ignoring concussion facts that it possessed, that likely goes back decades.

increasing concerns over PEDs

This, too.  See also, Lyle Alzado.

Whether it's from external pressure, including lawsuits, or care for players health, I think these are getting addressed by the current regime where they hadn't really been in the past.


Lyle alzados death had nothing to do with his steroid use, there is no connection between steroid use and brain cancer.
 
2013-02-17 12:35:36 AM
Speaking of wholly unproven assertions and things with no connection, the system getting the Saints players they "couldn't afford," haha...in your dreams.  And yes, a single season featuring interim interim coaches and players shuffling in and out has proven they can't win without it, LOL.  God, you couldn't make you up, pile o' shiat.

/as for Sean being suspended longer, sorry your team blew the best shot they're ever gonna get on a hilarious home chokejob, no second chances
 
2013-02-17 02:44:19 AM
That's farking ridiculous.  They could get any decent lawyer or judge to run the league for 1/6 that, and they'd probably do a better job, too.  Plus, tons of people would kill for that job-- why does it need to pay more than, say, twice what the President makes?

The owners that agreed to that deal are terriible negotiators.  Goodall is imminently more replaceable at his job than Peyton Manning is at his.  Why should Rog make more than twice as much a year???
 
2013-02-17 03:05:12 PM

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: The owners that agreed to that deal are terriible negotiators.  Goodall is imminently more replaceable at his job than Peyton Manning is at his.  Why should Rog make more than twice as much a year???


That's a good question, and one that could be asked of virtually anyone making a salary higher than the mid-six figures. Not absolutely everyone--the players, ironically, can make a pretty strong case that they're basically independent contractors charging what a very transparent market will bear. But yeah, most everyone else, from Goodell down to the guy who empties his wastebasket, can be replaced overnight.

A very partial defense might be that Goodell has political mojo and entertainment industry contacts he's bringing to the table, which would be true now even if it weren't when he began. Also, he probably wrings a hundred thousand dollars' worth of leverage out of the fact that it'd be a pain in the ass for the organization to go through the hassle of a job search. And there's the possibility that he knows where some bodies are buried now, or that his contract is written such that if he doesn't get paid in the tens of mmmmmmmmillions of dollars, he could just flat out sabotage things by making "honest mistakes." That'd be illegal, but he could probably get away with it.

But really, the short answer is that people sitting on enormous piles of wealth tend to start thinking that they're different from--and better than--everyone else. It doesn't matter whether they made every penny of it selling one widget at a time, or whether they're the idiot great-grandchildren of some steel baron from the Gilded Age. And if they're better than the plebes, they can't have the plebes running things. So the solution is to take a capable plebe (or one who convinces you he's capable, or maybe one who convinces you he's not a plebe), throw fark-you money at him, and  presto! he's not a plebe anymore. So now he can be good at his job. And now that he's good at his job (he must be! we're paying him eight figures, ferchrissake!) he deserves all that money, because XYZ Corporation is a meritocracy, and we wouldn't be paying him top dollar if he weren't THE BEST.

This is why you'll have corporate boards saying with a completely straight face that they're going to turn things around at XYZ Corp. by giving the CEO a huge bonus, because that will motivate him. The problem last year was that he wasn't motivated enough on his mere five-million-dollar salary, and that's why he made bad decisions that tanked the company. They actually believe that.

The really funny thing is, these people are smart enough to understand the concept of fiduciary responsibility when it comes to the question of whether they should spend another eight cents per car on the screw that holds the fuel tank in place. If the expected cost from the inevitable wrongful death suits are ≤7.9 cents per car, then hell no, that's just pissing money away. Money that could be better spent buying our awesome $30M CEO a private island, to motivate him!
 
rka
2013-02-18 01:01:04 AM

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: and they'd probably do a better job, too.


Based on what metric?
 
Displayed 27 of 27 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report