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(Mercury News)   Meteor seen in California skies. EVERYBODY PANIC   (mercurynews.com) divider line 130
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2013-02-16 12:23:20 PM  

SmellsLikePoo: /the new oblig?


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2013-02-16 12:33:37 PM  
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2013-02-16 12:35:12 PM  

NutWrench: GilRuiz1: Let's burn down the observatory so this never happens again!
[download.lardlad.com image 320x240]

Nightfall (Asimov short story and novel)


Or, conversely: The Nine Billion Names of God (Arthur C. Clarke)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God

::shiver::
 
2013-02-16 12:44:55 PM  
FTFA:   indicated the object that flashed across the horizon around 7:45 p.m. was blue in color


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Xai
2013-02-16 01:13:50 PM  
'amazing' american meteor - pffffft

Amazing russian meteor - BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
 
2013-02-16 01:25:35 PM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MarkEC: Deep Contact: It looked to slow to be a meteor.

What is the minimum speed for a meteor? I would think that one traveling in the same direction as the Earth in an elliptical orbit would tend to be a lot slower than the one in Russia. It probably has a lot to do with whether is breaks up or not too.

I've been toying with an idea for a story, but don't know if this is really possibly. Fark Advice, please.

A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest  and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?

Fark physicists, real and GED versions, please reply.


Serious question: did you pay any attention in school after 3rd grade?
 
2013-02-16 01:38:06 PM  
Just Another OC Homeless Guy:
A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest  and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?


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2013-02-16 01:40:46 PM  

rev. dave: So Cuba, Russia, and now California.   It suggests the asteroid had a few fragments travelling with it that we did not see.


And that God aimed them at godless Communists and libby lib liberal Democrats.
 
2013-02-16 01:41:34 PM  
It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided.

If you plan on writing a story about something like this, you may want to learn more about gravity and Roche's Limit.
 
2013-02-16 01:45:48 PM  

Scruffinator: garkola: How many earth hits does it take before "scientists" start saying "maybe we're inside a previously unknown meteor swarm" instead of "it must be a coincidence."

A lot more than two.


It's 3. They've been embargoing the news of the Cuban one.
 
2013-02-16 01:55:14 PM  

WxGuy1: Is this the new "thing"? Every time a fireball is spotted somewhere in the world, we're going to be seeing a myriad of news mentions about it, thereby making it seem as though this is some extremely rare event? Got it.

/ Remember all of those "mass animal deaths" (birds falling from the sky, dead fish covering ponds and lakes, etc.) that were all the rage in the media a few years ago?
// Obvious exception to this "ugh, why is this a big deal" feeling was the event in Russia yesterday
/// It seems these types of things always start with a high-profile event, though


There's always a new "thing". Cruise ship fires, train derailments, food poisonings, shootings etc. That's just how the news machine works, apparently.
 
2013-02-16 02:08:28 PM  

Kevin72: A lot more than two.

It's 3. They've been embargoing the news of the Cuban one.


3 is not "a lot more than two". It's about as little more-than-two as you can be. Keep counting...

i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-16 03:58:19 PM  

rev. dave: CokeBear: rev. dave: So Cuba, Russia, and now California.   It suggests the asteroid had a few fragments travelling with it that we did not see.

Why does this meteor hate socialist places?

Well Russia is now more capitalist than the US.  But I get the point.


Crony capitalism != true capitalism (i.e., laissez-faire)
 
2013-02-16 04:03:28 PM  
It's just because we're looking out for them more, paying more attention to them now, even if subconsciously.
They've always been here.
 
2013-02-16 05:09:46 PM  
that was the most run of the mill shooting star ever. do people in california just not get those often or something?
 
2013-02-16 05:43:21 PM  

NutWrench: GilRuiz1: Let's burn down the observatory so this never happens again!
[download.lardlad.com image 320x240]

Nightfall (Asimov short story and novel)


One of my favorite stories by Asimov.

=]
 
2013-02-16 05:53:32 PM  
It is nothing less than the hand of God. He is trying to reach out to these Godless commies. If they choose not to accept His divine love, He will surely destroy them.
     
This is a shot across the bow. Do you believe yet? There's your proof. The Lord loves us but only has so much patience. We need to get right with Him and quickly. We need to round up all those who haven't accepted Jesus Christ and run them out of our country before we suffer God's wrath. It's coming.
 
2013-02-16 06:13:30 PM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Did not see your post before I mentioned camping as well. As a city girl, I'm not real keen on camping. However, it was ... awesome, in the original meaning of the word, to see all those "shooting stars". I'd like to see it again, just without the sleeping on the ground, peeing behind a bush and bathing with biodegradable soap in a stream parts.


The night sky is one of my very favorite parts of camping :)
For people who aren't into roughing it there are a number of ways to make the experience more comfortable.  There are some extra-thick inflating camping pads I've slept on that are as comfortable as many beds, and plenty of campgrounds have toilets -- if you're lucky, even flush toilets.  And while I don't think I've seen a campground with actual showers, you can buy a camping shower.  Basically it is a big black bag that you fill with water, it heats up the water by absorbing sunlight, and then you hang it from a tree and water comes out of an attached shower head.  I'm a city kid too, but I do love the outdoors.  Personally I think dragging all that extra stuff around sounds like more trouble than it's worth, but if it helps people get out once in a while and really enjoy nature then I am all for it.

Another thing you might try if you wanna just get out and see the night sky, is to find a society of amateur astronomers.  Sometimes those groups will have get-togethers where they head out of the light bubble with their telescopes, usually to the desert or something.  Often times they're happy to have people along who are just interested in learning, so if you can deal with all the astro-nerd talk, you could take a gander at the sky AND get to see some planets or nebulae or binary star systems and such through telescopes :)


italie: You were spot on until that last part. A 1/100 year event and a and a 1/1000 year event happening within 24 hours of each other is a pretty unique thing.


I'm not saying it isn't rare from our perspective, but in cosmic terms that isn't really that unique an event.  Besides, what are the parameters for those probabilities you're giving?  Are they based on size?  Proximity?  Are you only counting meteors that got just as close as AD14 did, or would a rock that crossed, say, a thousand miles further away still count?  Tossing numbers out into the air is meaningless without knowing what they're based on.
 
2013-02-16 06:19:40 PM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: I'd like to see it again


As an addendum, I noticed you're from California.  I'm not sure how far from it you are, but I highly recommend visiting Sequoia National Park.  It is generally a lot less crowded than Yosemite, they have some beautiful campgrounds with flush toilets, and the trees are absolutely shockingly enormous.  It is an incredibly impressive thing to see.
 
2013-02-16 06:25:46 PM  

Ghastly: rev. dave: So Cuba, Russia, and now California.   It suggests the asteroid had a few fragments travelling with it that we did not see.

I don't know about the Cuban one, but the Russian meteor came in on an angle almost 90 degrees to the trajectory of the asteroid so it's just a co-incidence.


You can talk until you are blue in the face and a lot of people are just not going to listen. They just don't farkin get it. They don't realize that the Earth is rotating the Sun at roughly 67000 miles an HOUR and in the 14ish hours between the Russian meteorite and the Asteroid pass, the Earth was about 938,000 miles away from where it was when the meteor entered the atmosphere. Almost a MILLION miles away.

No matter what you say, they will continue to believe that the meteorite was a frickin piece of the asteroid or that the 2 meteoroids were travelling together or some such nonsense.
 
2013-02-16 06:53:37 PM  

Ivo Shandor: Kevin72: A lot more than two.

It's 3. They've been embargoing the news of the Cuban one.

3 is not "a lot more than two". It's about as little more-than-two as you can be. Keep counting...

[i.imgur.com image 499x764]


Illustration of the great Leonid meteor storm of 1833.

Nice

=]
 
2013-02-16 09:24:05 PM  

Kurmudgeon: Tyrone Slothrop: Any being that sends people to hell isn't worthy of being loved.

I'm sure the unrepentant murderers, rapists and the violent of history appreciate your support.
We do reap what we sow. Thank God for that free will you have, however, how you use it is on you.


Funny though, the christian god doesn't just send those "unrepentant murderers, rapists and the violent of history" you mentioned to hell does he? Even the good heathen is sent there. The christian god is an unrepentant psychopath unworthy of love or worship not just because he is BAD but because he is bad and believes he is good. At least pagan gods knew they were just as messed up as the people they expected to worship them. I'd sooner worhip at the feet of Cthulu than the "good" christian god I grew up with and I grew up in a fairly mild catholic family, not a fire and brimstone baptist one more common in America today.
 
2013-02-16 09:31:23 PM  

SirLothar: /I think 10K tons is wildly exaggerated for something that small. Too lazy to do the math. Need coffee.


Gawdzila: A little back-of-the-napkin work shows that at 10,000 tons the meteor of that size would have to be, assuming a roughly spherical volume, about 6 times the density of iron.


Actually, check that.  I'm an idiot and it was late when I picked up my pencil.  10,000 tons would actually be pretty light for a meteor of that size, and would almost certainly make it non-metallic.  A mostly nickel-iron meteor of that size could actually weigh upwards of 70,000 tons or more, depending on how porous it was.
 
2013-02-16 10:02:01 PM  

Bob Winsom: Was it this guy?


Well played sir.
 
2013-02-16 11:51:06 PM  
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2013-02-17 12:28:35 AM  

Ginnungagap42: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MarkEC: Deep Contact: It looked to slow to be a meteor.

What is the minimum speed for a meteor? I would think that one traveling in the same direction as the Earth in an elliptical orbit would tend to be a lot slower than the one in Russia. It probably has a lot to do with whether is breaks up or not too.

I've been toying with an idea for a story, but don't know if this is really possibly. Fark Advice, please.

A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest  and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?

Fark physicists, real and GED versions, please reply.

"Twice the size of Texas" is a body that is a little larger than half the size of the Moon, so what you're proposing would go down something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibV4MdN5wo0


I guess I wasn't clear. That video shows a side-swipe impact, not a tangental impact. But tangental I mean that the asteroid juuuuuussssst "clips" a single high point of the Earth (Everest). and then just keeps on going. As I said, very massive, but moving slowly (say, if with the rotation of the Earth (1000 mpg) maybe at a relative 500 or 1000`mph or even less (the Russian one was moving at at 40,000 mph?). This slow a passage would result in a shock wave, but not necessarily a world-destroying one. Stuff would fall off the asteroid and cause collateral damage. Lots of wind from air being pushed. Maybe electrical effects. The asteroid would be massive enough that Earth's gravity would NOT make it crash into the Earth. It just wipes out Everest, and probably everything within a thousand miles, and waves goodbye.....

Plausible? Possible?
 
2013-02-17 12:44:07 AM  

assjuice: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MarkEC: Deep Contact: It looked to slow to be a meteor.

What is the minimum speed for a meteor? I would think that one traveling in the same direction as the Earth in an elliptical orbit would tend to be a lot slower than the one in Russia. It probably has a lot to do with whether is breaks up or not too.

I've been toying with an idea for a story, but don't know if this is really possibly. Fark Advice, please.

A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest  and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?

Fark physicists, real and GED versions, please reply.

Serious question: did you pay any attention in school after 3rd grade?


Sure it is. I can tell by the way you worded it.
 
2013-02-17 12:46:35 AM  

RobSeace: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: One fun idea, just to see atheist heads explode, would be to fund the research to do a gigantic hoax, where a ginormous hologram of the Four Horseman would flash across the skies. Or maybe just a giant eyeball, or even an entire "old bearded white guy" face, looking down, frowning.

Surely, you meant theist heads exploding? I'd think most atheists would view it skeptically and try to explain it rationally, and would likely see through the hoax; it's the magic-believers who would unquestionably accept it for what you purport it to be, and therefore would shiat themselves in either fear or delight...


You have a point. It would actually be both (if done well enough).
 
2013-02-17 12:53:50 AM  

neongoats: AverageAmericanGuy: The end times are here! Repent!
The end is nigh! Believe in Jesus and
Be spared the death and sorrow of
The Tribulation!
God loves you.
Won't you love Him?
Or will you die and burn in Hell?

My biggest regret, upon discovering the world ending will be that I didn't do enough to crush religion and make fundamentalists feel bad about themselves/cry more.

Ill take hell over you smarmy Jesus farks.


So it would be quite humorous if there IS a God, and you get judged, and put into Heaven because you have the courage of your convictions.

I bet you would sue to get out.

Hell would probably be more interesting.
 
2013-02-17 12:58:36 AM  

Dilvias: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MarkEC: Deep Contact: It looked to slow to be a meteor.

What is the minimum speed for a meteor? I would think that one traveling in the same direction as the Earth in an elliptical orbit would tend to be a lot slower than the one in Russia. It probably has a lot to do with whether is breaks up or not too.

I've been toying with an idea for a story, but don't know if this is really possibly. Fark Advice, please.

A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest  and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?

Fark physicists, real and GED versions, please reply.


If it is from the Oort cloud, we are talking about a comet, rather than an asterod, so more of a dirty snowmall, or an icy dirtball depending on the type.  Also, people really underestimate how much rocks weigh.  Halley's comet, only 15x8x8 kilometers (nowhere near the "size of texas" you were talking about) weighs 3x1014 kgs, or approximately 300 billion tons.  Also, thanks to orbital mechanics, if it comes anywhere near the surface (depending on the speed), the orbit will almost certainly pass through the earth, or in other words, Boom.

There may be a few very specific cases where the orbit just barely misses, but with something that size the tides and air compression will make it a very bad day here on earth.  Not to mention getting that close to the nucleus means lots of surface material will still strike the earth anyway.


Your point about the Oort Cloud is probably well taken. Though we really don't know what else is in in other than dirty snowballs. By "asteroid" I was thinking "solid body" and there could be some of those there, too.

Yes, the tides and wind would be a bummer. but probably not world-enders, I'm thinking.

You would end up with a lot of pissed off people and new space programs.
 
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