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2013-02-16 09:10:47 AM
Thank you, Bruce Willis, for saving us yet again!
 
2013-02-16 09:11:07 AM
Let's burn down the observatory so this never happens again!
download.lardlad.com
 
2013-02-16 09:11:58 AM
The end times are here! Repent!
The end is nigh! Believe in Jesus and
Be spared the death and sorrow of
The Tribulation!
God loves you.
Won't you love Him?
Or will you die and burn in Hell?
 
2013-02-16 09:12:18 AM
somewhere deep in the deep south: look, margarite, the Lord threw us another sparkler!
 
2013-02-16 09:13:08 AM
Well there's this: US dash-cams are far more artsy than the Russian's.
 
2013-02-16 09:13:20 AM
You have to approach any story coming from the Murky News with some skepticism.
 
2013-02-16 09:13:36 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: The end times are here! Repent!
The end is nigh! Believe in Jesus and
Be spared the death and sorrow of
The Tribulation!
God loves you.
Won't you love Him?
Or will you die and burn in Hell?


i hope god beams you all up soon... we could do with some peace on earth.
 
2013-02-16 09:17:06 AM
War after war and rumors of war from the east, fire and brimstone from the sky, talk of rfid implants that will be necessary in order to buy and sell if the makers get thier way. That religion thing is sounding a lot less fake than it used to.
 
2013-02-16 09:17:51 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: The end times are here! Repent!
The end is nigh! Believe in Jesus and
Be spared the death and sorrow of
The Tribulation!
God loves you.
Won't you love Him?
Or will you die and burn in Hell?


Any being that sends people to hell isn't worthy of being loved.
 
2013-02-16 09:18:35 AM
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
Was it this guy?
 
2013-02-16 09:19:32 AM

Mock26: Thank you, Bruce Willis, for saving us yet again!


Curse you, Bruce Willis, for saving them yet again!
 
2013-02-16 09:19:34 AM
i FOR ONE WELCOME OUR NEW UNIDENTIFIED OVERLORDS.

/sorry for yelling, but i think they may be deaf.
 
2013-02-16 09:20:19 AM
It was a 49 Mercury.
 
2013-02-16 09:20:26 AM

Bob Winsom: [images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 425x208]
Was it this guy?


Is that a vahooey turtle?
 
2013-02-16 09:21:16 AM
This is clearly Russia's retaliation for the 'missle strike' we did on them.
 
2013-02-16 09:21:43 AM

Ima4nic8or: You have to approach any story coming from the Murky News with some skepticism.


www.wingedmessenger.net
 
2013-02-16 09:24:05 AM
Aren't meteors common? Isn't that what a shooting star is? Are people just finally looking up from their phones?
 
2013-02-16 09:24:34 AM
Streetlight.

/or super bolide
 
2013-02-16 09:24:54 AM
So Cuba, Russia, and now California.   It suggests the asteroid had a few fragments travelling with it that we did not see.
 
2013-02-16 09:25:28 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: Any being that sends people to hell isn't worthy of being loved.


I'm sure the unrepentant murderers, rapists and the violent of history appreciate your support.
We do reap what we sow. Thank God for that free will you have, however, how you use it is on you.
 
2013-02-16 09:25:41 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: Any being that sends people to hell isn't worthy of being loved.


 I disagree. You deserve to be loved. Don't sell yourself so short.
 
2013-02-16 09:26:03 AM

rev. dave: So Cuba, Russia, and now California.   It suggests the asteroid had a few fragments travelling with it that we did not see.


Why does this meteor hate socialist places?
 
2013-02-16 09:26:21 AM
Russia, Cuba, and now California? The Communist meteor trifecta is complete!
 
2013-02-16 09:26:31 AM
Is this the new "thing"? Every time a fireball is spotted somewhere in the world, we're going to be seeing a myriad of news mentions about it, thereby making it seem as though this is some extremely rare event? Got it.

/ Remember all of those "mass animal deaths" (birds falling from the sky, dead fish covering ponds and lakes, etc.) that were all the rage in the media a few years ago?
// Obvious exception to this "ugh, why is this a big deal" feeling was the event in Russia yesterday
/// It seems these types of things always start with a high-profile event, though
 
2013-02-16 09:28:18 AM
The one in Cuba was fake--total hoax.

This one seems legit since a number of people reported it simultaneously.
 
2013-02-16 09:28:48 AM
Cereal Land , Fruits, Nuts, Flakes, Now with Star Clusters!
 
2013-02-16 09:28:55 AM
It looked to slow to be a meteor.
 
2013-02-16 09:29:07 AM
...followed by fault lines that cannot sit still,
followed by millions of dumbfounded dipsh*ts...

=Smidge=
 
2013-02-16 09:29:10 AM
FTFA: measured about 45 feet across, weighed about 10,000 tons and was traveling about 40,000 mph

So the estimates keep getting bigger every time I read a different article. At this estimate, it is roughly half the dimensions (not weight or density)of the meteor estimated to have caused Tunguska, and Meteor Crater in AZ.

If this is anywhere near accurate, the ruskies got damn lucky this time.

/I think 10K tons is wildly exaggerated for something that small. Too lazy to do the math. Need coffee.
 
2013-02-16 09:30:13 AM

WordsnCollision: Ima4nic8or: You have to approach any story coming from the Murky News with some skepticism.

www.wingedmessenger.net

If one of those hit Cuba, how could you tell?
 
2013-02-16 09:30:53 AM
Oh for farks sake.  Get ready for a week or so of non-stop news stories about people recording meteors with their phones.   Here's a hint - go in your backyard late at night, look up for a while, you'll probably see one. At least one or twice per week if you're lucky,
 
2013-02-16 09:31:45 AM

SirLothar: FTFA: measured about 45 feet across, weighed about 10,000 tons and was traveling about 40,000 mph

So the estimates keep getting bigger every time I read a different article. At this estimate, it is roughly half the dimensions (not weight or density)of the meteor estimated to have caused Tunguska, and Meteor Crater in AZ.

If this is anywhere near accurate, the ruskies got damn lucky this time.

/I think 10K tons is wildly exaggerated for something that small. Too lazy to do the math. Need coffee.


Wake me up when one approaches the K/T size neighborhood.
 
2013-02-16 09:31:53 AM

WxGuy1: Is this the new "thing"? Every time a fireball is spotted somewhere in the world, we're going to be seeing a myriad of news mentions about it, thereby making it seem as though this is some extremely rare event? Got it.


There haven't been any plane crashes or shark attacks lately. Something's got to fill the void.
 
2013-02-16 09:31:58 AM

rev. dave: So Cuba, Russia, and now California.   It suggests the asteroid had a few fragments travelling with it that we did not see.


Not even remotely does it suggedt that.

/hint; the Earth is moving very very fast
 
2013-02-16 09:32:22 AM

GilRuiz1: Let's burn down the observatory so this never happens again!
[download.lardlad.com image 320x240]


Nightfall (Asimov short story and novel)
 
2013-02-16 09:33:53 AM

Pinnacle Point: Russia, Cuba, and now California? The Communist meteor trifecta is complete!


Now is the time to worry. The asteroid trifecta is next.
 
2013-02-16 09:34:24 AM

Marshmallow Jones: Oh for farks sake.  Get ready for a week or so of non-stop news stories about people recording meteors with their phones.   Here's a hint - go in your backyard late at night, look up for a while, you'll probably see one. At least one or twice per week if you're lucky,


Getting people to look up from their iPhones?

IT'S A MIRACLE!
 
2013-02-16 09:35:06 AM

GRCooper: /hint; the Earth is moving very very fast


Weeeeeeeeeee!!!
 
2013-02-16 09:35:20 AM

CokeBear: rev. dave: So Cuba, Russia, and now California.   It suggests the asteroid had a few fragments travelling with it that we did not see.

Why does this meteor hate socialist places?


Well Russia is now more capitalist than the US.  But I get the point.
 
2013-02-16 09:36:49 AM

GRCooper: rev. dave: So Cuba, Russia, and now California.   It suggests the asteroid had a few fragments travelling with it that we did not see.

Not even remotely does it suggedt that.

/hint; the Earth is moving very very fast


Yes I know that.  But I had to take some artistic license with the facts...
 
2013-02-16 09:38:23 AM

WxGuy1: Is this the new "thing"? Every time a fireball is spotted somewhere in the world, we're going to be seeing a myriad of news mentions about it, thereby making it seem as though this is some extremely rare event? Got it.

/ Remember all of those "mass animal deaths" (birds falling from the sky, dead fish covering ponds and lakes, etc.) that were all the rage in the media a few years ago?
// Obvious exception to this "ugh, why is this a big deal" feeling was the event in Russia yesterday
/// It seems these types of things always start with a high-profile event, though


Just your typical, run of the mill coat-tail riding by the media.
 
2013-02-16 09:38:59 AM

rev. dave: So Cuba, Russia, and now California.   It suggests the asteroid had a few fragments travelling with it that we did not see.


No, not really.  Those were not related to 2012 DA14.  Even ignoring the vast distance between DA14 and those other events, the one in Russia was traveling in a completely different direction.

Anyone who has ever been camping and looked at the sky for more than a few minutes can tell you that shooting stars (aka meteors) are a very common event.  As in, thousands per year of various sizes hit the Earth.  The fact that a few of notable size happened to hit our atmosphere within a day or two of each other is an inevitable statistical anomaly, and not a particularly unlikely one at that.
 
2013-02-16 09:42:41 AM
I can't remember, is it supposed to be plagues next or the famine thing?
 
2013-02-16 09:44:40 AM

mrinfoguy: Tyrone Slothrop: Any being that sends people to hell isn't worthy of being loved.

 I disagree. You deserve to be loved. Don't sell yourself so short.


Are you asking if I'm a god? Because the answer is yes.
 
2013-02-16 09:45:09 AM

rev. dave: GRCooper: rev. dave: So Cuba, Russia, and now California.   It suggests the asteroid had a few fragments travelling with it that we did not see.

Not even remotely does it suggedt that.

/hint; the Earth is moving very very fast

Yes I know that.  But I had to take some artistic license with the facts...


Nah, you wiped your ass with the facts :)

Those rocks were millions of kilometers apart. It's like driving nonstop up I95, getting bird shiat on your car in DC, Philly and NYC and not only assuming it was from the same bird, but from the same bowel movement

/do birds have bowels?
//yeah, I need to hit the can
///I mean, I really need to take the Browns to the Superbowl. Now.
 
2013-02-16 09:46:35 AM

Deep Contact: It looked to slow to be a meteor.


What is the minimum speed for a meteor? I would think that one traveling in the same direction as the Earth in an elliptical orbit would tend to be a lot slower than the one in Russia. It probably has a lot to do with whether is breaks up or not too.
 
2013-02-16 09:47:13 AM

SirLothar: /I think 10K tons is wildly exaggerated for something that small.


A little back-of-the-napkin work shows that at 10,000 tons the meteor of that size would have to be, assuming a roughly spherical volume, about 6 times the density of iron.  So, yeah, slight exaggeration.
 
2013-02-16 09:49:11 AM
AverageAmericanGuy:
The end times are here! Repent!
Or will you die and burn in Hell?


There is no "Hell", you puppet. I take it, that some tart who lied about being a virgin and subsequently raised a kid to believe he was a son of the man in the clouds, and that one day that bastard kid got killed then came back to life is an acceptable trifectca of bullshiat to you... go on, tell us more.
 
2013-02-16 09:50:09 AM
It was probably Xenu.
 
2013-02-16 09:50:54 AM

Smidge204: ...followed by fault lines that cannot sit still,
followed by millions of dumbfounded dipsh*ts...

=Smidge=


First thing I thought, too. I don't even really like Tool.
 
2013-02-16 09:51:25 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: The end times are here! Repent!
The end is nigh! Believe in Jesus and
Be spared the death and sorrow of
The Tribulation!
God loves you.
Won't you love Him?
Or will you die and burn in Hell?


I've had random daydreams occasionally of what I'd do with the money if I hit a Powerball jackpot of half a billion.

One fun idea, just to see atheist heads explode, would be to fund the research to do a gigantic hoax, where a ginormous hologram of the Four Horseman would flash across the skies. Or maybe just a giant eyeball, or even an entire "old bearded white guy" face, looking down, frowning.

Come on, you know the reactions would be funny...

Possibly even more fun would be to do one of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Or  cthulhu.  And then just kick back and watch the screaming panic.

The inner kid in me.......
 
2013-02-16 09:55:57 AM

Marshmallow Jones: Oh for farks sake.  Get ready for a week or so of non-stop news stories about people recording meteors with their phones.   Here's a hint - go in your backyard late at night, look up for a while, you'll probably see one. At least one or twice per week if you're lucky,


Go camping in the mountains, far away from any light pollution, and don't take a tent. Sleep under the open sky and just watch. You'll see dozens of things streaking through the night sky every night. Apparently the universe is trying to kill us with a constant bombardment of space crud (with a bit of help from the space junk humans have lost or left out there, too).
 
2013-02-16 09:56:35 AM

Active introvert: Aren't meteors common? Isn't that what a shooting star is? Are people just finally looking up from their phones?


Yes, they're very common. Heck, I even saw one once, and that was awesome. (It's not that I don't look at the sky. It's just that the sky is so often overcast.) The meteor here looked particularly large. Maybe a bit of it even landed!

Thank you, 2012 DA14, for compelling people to pay attention.
 
2013-02-16 09:57:30 AM
Mom's coming 'round to put it back the way it ought to be....
 
2013-02-16 09:58:22 AM

rev. dave: GRCooper: rev. dave: So Cuba, Russia, and now California.   It suggests the asteroid had a few fragments travelling with it that we did not see.

Not even remotely does it suggedt that.

/hint; the Earth is moving very very fast

Yes I know that.  But I had to take some artistic license with the facts...


It looks more like you're taking moronic license. Stop being an idiot please.
 
2013-02-16 09:59:38 AM

Gawdzila: Anyone who has ever been camping and looked at the sky for more than a few minutes can tell you that shooting stars (aka meteors) are a very common event.


Did not see your post before I mentioned camping as well. As a city girl, I'm not real keen on camping. However, it was ... awesome, in the original meaning of the word, to see all those "shooting stars". I'd like to see it again, just without the sleeping on the ground, peeing behind a bush and bathing with biodegradable soap in a stream parts.
 
2013-02-16 09:59:43 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: AverageAmericanGuy: The end times are here! Repent!
The end is nigh! Believe in Jesus and
Be spared the death and sorrow of
The Tribulation!
God loves you.
Won't you love Him?
Or will you die and burn in Hell?

I've had random daydreams occasionally of what I'd do with the money if I hit a Powerball jackpot of half a billion.

One fun idea, just to see atheist heads explode, would be to fund the research to do a gigantic hoax, where a ginormous hologram of the Four Horseman would flash across the skies. Or maybe just a giant eyeball, or even an entire "old bearded white guy" face, looking down, frowning.

Come on, you know the reactions would be funny...

Possibly even more fun would be to do one of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Or  cthulhu.  And then just kick back and watch the screaming panic.

The inner kid in me.......


Kickstart it and I'll pledge $25.

Depending on what I'd get for it, of course.
 
2013-02-16 10:00:49 AM

Mock26: WxGuy1: Is this the new "thing"? Every time a fireball is spotted somewhere in the world, we're going to be seeing a myriad of news mentions about it, thereby making it seem as though this is some extremely rare event? Got it.

/ Remember all of those "mass animal deaths" (birds falling from the sky, dead fish covering ponds and lakes, etc.) that were all the rage in the media a few years ago?
// Obvious exception to this "ugh, why is this a big deal" feeling was the event in Russia yesterday
/// It seems these types of things always start with a high-profile event, though

Just your typical, run of the mill coat-tail riding by the media.


And the cruise ships, don't forget the shiat sodden cruise ships.
 
2013-02-16 10:04:32 AM
The one in Russia was St, Reagan in the skies, crapping out an awesome meteor turd upon the Ruskies. The one in Cuba was St. JFK reminding Fidel he's still watching. The one in California was both of the former, telling Charlie Sheen to stop being a man-whore.
 
2013-02-16 10:04:38 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: AverageAmericanGuy: The end times are here! Repent!
The end is nigh! Believe in Jesus and
Be spared the death and sorrow of
The Tribulation!
God loves you.
Won't you love Him?
Or will you die and burn in Hell?

Any being that sends people to hell isn't worthy of being loved.


Possibly, you send yourself. It may suit you better than Heaven, Personally, if the choice were between spending an eternity singing praises to God and spending Eternity trying to avoid various uncomfortable situations, I might choose the latter; it would be less boring.

Then there's the old joke about how everyone ends up in a heavenly choir, singing God's praises for all Eternity. Those who LIKE that are in their own personal Heaven; those that don't like in are in their own personal Hell.

I don't think that the popular visions of Hell are not really supported at all in the Bible. They come from Dante, who was grinding political and personal axes, and was writing obliquely to keep his own neck away from the axeman.

For what it's worth, my ex-wife (a Catholic) mentioned once that the Jesuit version of Hell is simply being separated from God forever. He doesn't want you around, so you just go do something else - knowing that you are persona non grata.  That would actually suck, big-time.
If Hell exists, I think the reason for it would be like in Niven's "Inferno."
 
2013-02-16 10:05:21 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: AverageAmericanGuy: The end times are here! Repent!
The end is nigh! Believe in Jesus and
Be spared the death and sorrow of
The Tribulation!
God loves you.
Won't you love Him?
Or will you die and burn in Hell?

Any being that sends people to hell isn't worthy of being loved.


To be fair, you(yes you specifically) won't be sent so much, more like left there.  Hell is described as a lake of fire and utter and complete blackness where everyone is alone together - outer space with all the radiant energy turned off is the only possible match for that description.  A place where the creator has cut off from His own presence.  Plus, you made it clear with this life that you wanted nothing to do with Him, so he's giving you exactly what you asked for, nothing to do with Him, the creation He powers, etc.  After your judgment, you'll be free of him entirely in your post-resurrection body which doesn't age or break, of course it'll be so cold that fluid boils and no light at all, so there's that.  Enjoy.
 
2013-02-16 10:07:14 AM
Local news just said that Congress is going to have a special meeting to work out ways of combatting these killer astroids, so we are all screwed
 
2013-02-16 10:10:52 AM

Snarfangel: WordsnCollision: Ima4nic8or: You have to approach any story coming from the Murky News with some skepticism.
[www.wingedmessenger.net image 400x294]

If one of those hit Cuba, how could you tell?


They'd turn it into a boat, and 20 Cubans would ride it to Miami.
 
2013-02-16 10:10:58 AM

ukexpat: Mock26: WxGuy1: Is this the new "thing"? Every time a fireball is spotted somewhere in the world, we're going to be seeing a myriad of news mentions about it, thereby making it seem as though this is some extremely rare event? Got it.

/ Remember all of those "mass animal deaths" (birds falling from the sky, dead fish covering ponds and lakes, etc.) that were all the rage in the media a few years ago?
// Obvious exception to this "ugh, why is this a big deal" feeling was the event in Russia yesterday
/// It seems these types of things always start with a high-profile event, though

Just your typical, run of the mill coat-tail riding by the media.

And the cruise ships, don't forget the shiat sodden cruise ships.


Luck of the draw.
 
2013-02-16 10:10:58 AM

Gawdzila: rev. dave: So Cuba, Russia, and now California.   It suggests the asteroid had a few fragments travelling with it that we did not see.

No, not really.  Those were not related to 2012 DA14.  Even ignoring the vast distance between DA14 and those other events, the one in Russia was traveling in a completely different direction.

Anyone who has ever been camping and looked at the sky for more than a few minutes can tell you that shooting stars (aka meteors) are a very common event.  As in, thousands per year of various sizes hit the Earth.  The fact that a few of notable size happened to hit our atmosphere within a day or two of each other is an inevitable statistical anomaly, and not a particularly unlikely one at that.


You were spot on until that last part. A 1/100 year event and a  and a 1/1000 year event happening within 24 hours of each other is a  pretty unique thing.
 
2013-02-16 10:11:11 AM
Anthropogenic Meteor Change...tm!

All you biatches be payin' me soon.
 
2013-02-16 10:18:55 AM

rev. dave: So Cuba, Russia, and now California.   It suggests the asteroid had a few fragments travelling with it that we did not see.


I don't know about the Cuban one, but the Russian meteor came in on an angle almost 90 degrees to the trajectory of the asteroid so it's just a co-incidence.
 
2013-02-16 10:24:24 AM

MarkEC: Deep Contact: It looked to slow to be a meteor.

What is the minimum speed for a meteor? I would think that one traveling in the same direction as the Earth in an elliptical orbit would tend to be a lot slower than the one in Russia. It probably has a lot to do with whether is breaks up or not too.


I've been toying with an idea for a story, but don't know if this is really possibly. Fark Advice, please.

A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest  and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?

Fark physicists, real and GED versions, please reply.
 
2013-02-16 10:28:59 AM
Actually, I'm not supposed to say anything about this, but with all the recent meteor events that have been reported, it's the events you haven't read about that you should be worried about. Right now, there are at least two or three large meteors on a collision course with Earth that we know about but we haven't told the general public because we can't do anything to stop them and we don't want to induce a panic.
 
2013-02-16 10:29:03 AM
imgs.xkcd.com
/the new oblig?
 
2013-02-16 10:29:07 AM

special20: AverageAmericanGuy:
The end times are here! Repent!
Or will you die and burn in Hell?

There is no "Hell", you puppet. I take it, that some tart who lied about being a virgin and subsequently raised a kid to believe he was a son of the man in the clouds, and that one day that bastard kid got killed then came back to life is an acceptable trifectca of bullshiat to you... go on, tell us more.


Not even that. The entire Bible is, mostly, a huge political and social engineering document. It's propaganda for people who like power.
 
2013-02-16 10:30:13 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MarkEC: Deep Contact: It looked to slow to be a meteor.

What is the minimum speed for a meteor? I would think that one traveling in the same direction as the Earth in an elliptical orbit would tend to be a lot slower than the one in Russia. It probably has a lot to do with whether is breaks up or not too.

I've been toying with an idea for a story, but don't know if this is really possibly. Fark Advice, please.

A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest  and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?
So you are into total fiction.


Fark physicists, real and GED versions, please reply.

 
2013-02-16 10:30:53 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MarkEC: Deep Contact: It looked to slow to be a meteor.

What is the minimum speed for a meteor? I would think that one traveling in the same direction as the Earth in an elliptical orbit would tend to be a lot slower than the one in Russia. It probably has a lot to do with whether is breaks up or not too.

I've been toying with an idea for a story, but don't know if this is really possibly. Fark Advice, please.

A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest  and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?

Fark physicists, real and GED versions, please reply.


If any space rock makes it past about 100 miles(?) in to the atmosphere, it doesn't graze off. It's coming in all the way. At 3000 feet above sea level, catastrophic damage has already been done and that doesn't include the impact...yet.
 
2013-02-16 10:34:39 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MarkEC: Deep Contact: It looked to slow to be a meteor.

What is the minimum speed for a meteor? I would think that one traveling in the same direction as the Earth in an elliptical orbit would tend to be a lot slower than the one in Russia. It probably has a lot to do with whether is breaks up or not too.

I've been toying with an idea for a story, but don't know if this is really possibly. Fark Advice, please.

A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest  and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?

Fark physicists, real and GED versions, please reply.


My non Physicist quick take - assuming everything else you said is ok, the rock wouldn't have the energy to get back out of the atmosphere after grazing Everest (which is near enough ground level for something that size as to make no diff)
 
2013-02-16 10:34:44 AM

SirLothar: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MarkEC: Deep Contact: It looked to slow to be a meteor.

What is the minimum speed for a meteor? I would think that one traveling in the same direction as the Earth in an elliptical orbit would tend to be a lot slower than the one in Russia. It probably has a lot to do with whether is breaks up or not too.

I've been toying with an idea for a story, but don't know if this is really possibly. Fark Advice, please.

A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest  and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?

Fark physicists, real and GED versions, please reply.

If any space rock makes it past about 100 miles(?) in to the atmosphere, it doesn't graze off. It's coming in all the way. At 3000 feet above sea level, catastrophic damage has already been done and that doesn't include the impact...yet.


In fact, something that size would go through the atmosphere like it wasn't even there. Friction and drag would have zero effect on its speed. It would retain all of its cosmic velocity and impact at whatever speed it was doing outside the atmosphere.  World-ender.
 
2013-02-16 10:34:57 AM

Jarhead_h: Tyrone Slothrop: AverageAmericanGuy: The end times are here! Repent!
The end is nigh! Believe in Jesus and
Be spared the death and sorrow of
The Tribulation!
God loves you.
Won't you love Him?
Or will you die and burn in Hell?

Any being that sends people to hell isn't worthy of being loved.

To be fair, you(yes you specifically) won't be sent so much, more like left there.  Hell is described as a lake of fire and utter and complete blackness where everyone is alone together - outer space with all the radiant energy turned off is the only possible match for that description.  A place where the creator has cut off from His own presence.  Plus, you made it clear with this life that you wanted nothing to do with Him, so he's giving you exactly what you asked for, nothing to do with Him, the creation He powers, etc.  After your judgment, you'll be free of him entirely in your post-resurrection body which doesn't age or break, of course it'll be so cold that fluid boils and no light at all, so there's that.  Enjoy.


It's so precious that some people think they have any idea what happens to a person after they die.

Quite the imagination you have.
 
2013-02-16 10:36:18 AM

SirLothar: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MarkEC: Deep Contact: It looked to slow to be a meteor.

What is the minimum speed for a meteor? I would think that one traveling in the same direction as the Earth in an elliptical orbit would tend to be a lot slower than the one in Russia. It probably has a lot to do with whether is breaks up or not too.

I've been toying with an idea for a story, but don't know if this is really possibly. Fark Advice, please.

A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest  and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?

Fark physicists, real and GED versions, please reply.

If any space rock makes it past about 100 miles(?) in to the atmosphere, it doesn't graze off. It's coming in all the way. At 3000 feet above sea level, catastrophic damage has already been done and that doesn't include the impact...yet.


Yeah pretty much any loose piece of rock on it is going to come crashing down on us.
 
2013-02-16 10:38:25 AM
We need more dash cams.
 
2013-02-16 10:38:58 AM

Active introvert: Aren't meteors common? Isn't that what a shooting star is? Are people just finally looking up from their phones?


This. I've seen plenty of meteors of varying colours and length of visibility, though I would totally shiat myself if I saw one like the one in Russia.
 
2013-02-16 10:39:18 AM
i1182.photobucket.comMAKE YOUR PEACE WITH GOD!!!i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-16 10:44:01 AM
i.imgur.com

Meteor blitzkrieg!
 
2013-02-16 10:44:22 AM
Well if we suddenly start seeing them all over the world near every major city...well...at least we'll finally have an answer to one of the fundamental questions of life.
 
2013-02-16 10:47:49 AM
How about this Russian meteor's meteoric rise to fame.
 
2013-02-16 10:50:19 AM

Agent Smiths Laugh: Well if we suddenly start seeing them all over the world near every major city...well...at least we'll finally have an answer to one of the fundamental questions of life.


How would that have anything to do with "what should I make for dinner tonight"?

/thinking about filet mignon
//still not sure though
 
2013-02-16 10:54:28 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MarkEC: Deep Contact: It looked to slow to be a meteor.

What is the minimum speed for a meteor? I would think that one traveling in the same direction as the Earth in an elliptical orbit would tend to be a lot slower than the one in Russia. It probably has a lot to do with whether is breaks up or not too.

I've been toying with an idea for a story, but don't know if this is really possibly. Fark Advice, please.

A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest  and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?

Fark physicists, real and GED versions, please reply.


"Twice the size of Texas" is a body that is a little larger than half the size of the Moon, so what you're proposing would go down something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibV4MdN5wo0
 
GBB
2013-02-16 11:00:05 AM
www.atariage.com

I thought I recognized that video .... game.
 
2013-02-16 11:03:35 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: One fun idea, just to see atheist heads explode, would be to fund the research to do a gigantic hoax, where a ginormous hologram of the Four Horseman would flash across the skies. Or maybe just a giant eyeball, or even an entire "old bearded white guy" face, looking down, frowning.


Surely, you meant theist heads exploding? I'd think most atheists would view it skeptically and try to explain it rationally, and would likely see through the hoax; it's the magic-believers who would unquestionably accept it for what you purport it to be, and therefore would shiat themselves in either fear or delight...
 
2013-02-16 11:16:03 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?

Fark physicists, real and GED versions, please reply.


Others have pointed out that we'd basically be boned in such a situation and that the scenario you describe would be rather implausible.

/does research on meteorites, but mostly relating to noble gas composition and not earth-shattering kabooms
 
2013-02-16 11:16:08 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MarkEC: Deep Contact: It looked to slow to be a meteor.

What is the minimum speed for a meteor? I would think that one traveling in the same direction as the Earth in an elliptical orbit would tend to be a lot slower than the one in Russia. It probably has a lot to do with whether is breaks up or not too.

I've been toying with an idea for a story, but don't know if this is really possibly. Fark Advice, please.

A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest  and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?

Fark physicists, real and GED versions, please reply.



If it is from the Oort cloud, we are talking about a comet, rather than an asterod, so more of a dirty snowmall, or an icy dirtball depending on the type.  Also, people really underestimate how much rocks weigh.  Halley's comet, only 15x8x8 kilometers (nowhere near the "size of texas" you were talking about) weighs 3x1014 kgs, or approximately 300 billion tons.  Also, thanks to orbital mechanics, if it comes anywhere near the surface (depending on the speed), the orbit will almost certainly pass through the earth, or in other words, Boom.

There may be a few very specific cases where the orbit just barely misses, but with something that size the tides and air compression will make it a very bad day here on earth.  Not to mention getting that close to the nucleus means lots of surface material will still strike the earth anyway.
 
2013-02-16 11:18:37 AM
Put on the fancy new tennis shoes, cut your balls off and ready the grape Kool Aid, the mothership is almost here!

upload.wikimedia.org

"Armageddon outta here!"
 
2013-02-16 11:21:56 AM

Oldiron_79: War after war and rumors of war from the east, fire and brimstone from the sky, talk of rfid implants that will be necessary in order to buy and sell if the makers get thier way. That religion thing is sounding a lot less fake than it used to.


Idiot.
 
2013-02-16 11:49:38 AM
Well the Earth is clearly drifting through a debris field of some description. If something truly disastrous were on its way, we would never know since we're being controlled. When Trump and Ellison decide to go to the ISS for a tour, that's when we can be sure it's all over for us little people.
 
2013-02-16 11:56:42 AM
Some say a comet will fall from the sky
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves

/see you down in Arizona bay
 
2013-02-16 11:59:00 AM
furplanet.com
 
2013-02-16 12:00:26 PM
img192.imageshack.us

And what you fail to realize is my ship meteor ... is dragging mines!
 
2013-02-16 12:02:26 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: The end times are here! Repent!
The end is nigh! Believe in Jesus and
Be spared the death and sorrow of
The Tribulation!
God loves you.
Won't you love Him?
Or will you die and burn in Hell?


My biggest regret, upon discovering the world ending will be that I didn't do enough to crush religion and make fundamentalists feel bad about themselves/cry more.

Ill take hell over you smarmy Jesus farks.
 
2013-02-16 12:04:36 PM
Not a single FF7 reference? You guys are slipping.
 
2013-02-16 12:06:58 PM

Oldiron_79: War after war and rumors of war from the east, fire and brimstone from the sky, talk of rfid implants that will be necessary in order to buy and sell if the makers get thier way. That religion thing is sounding a lot less fake than it used to.


Well, I take comfort in the fact that you paranoid jesusy tards will get a comet applied directly to forehead,
 
2013-02-16 12:10:43 PM
How many earth hits does it take before "scientists" start saying "maybe we're inside a previously unknown meteor swarm" instead of "it must be a coincidence."
 
2013-02-16 12:17:43 PM

garkola: How many earth hits does it take before "scientists" start saying "maybe we're inside a previously unknown meteor swarm" instead of "it must be a coincidence."


A lot more than two.
 
2013-02-16 12:23:20 PM

SmellsLikePoo: /the new oblig?


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-02-16 12:33:37 PM
erthstationone.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-16 12:35:12 PM

NutWrench: GilRuiz1: Let's burn down the observatory so this never happens again!
[download.lardlad.com image 320x240]

Nightfall (Asimov short story and novel)


Or, conversely: The Nine Billion Names of God (Arthur C. Clarke)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Billion_Names_of_God

::shiver::
 
2013-02-16 12:44:55 PM
FTFA:   indicated the object that flashed across the horizon around 7:45 p.m. was blue in color


farm4.static.flickr.com
 
Xai
2013-02-16 01:13:50 PM
'amazing' american meteor - pffffft

Amazing russian meteor - BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
 
2013-02-16 01:25:35 PM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MarkEC: Deep Contact: It looked to slow to be a meteor.

What is the minimum speed for a meteor? I would think that one traveling in the same direction as the Earth in an elliptical orbit would tend to be a lot slower than the one in Russia. It probably has a lot to do with whether is breaks up or not too.

I've been toying with an idea for a story, but don't know if this is really possibly. Fark Advice, please.

A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest  and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?

Fark physicists, real and GED versions, please reply.


Serious question: did you pay any attention in school after 3rd grade?
 
2013-02-16 01:38:06 PM
Just Another OC Homeless Guy:
A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest  and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?


media.comicvine.com
 
2013-02-16 01:40:46 PM

rev. dave: So Cuba, Russia, and now California.   It suggests the asteroid had a few fragments travelling with it that we did not see.


And that God aimed them at godless Communists and libby lib liberal Democrats.
 
2013-02-16 01:41:34 PM
It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided.

If you plan on writing a story about something like this, you may want to learn more about gravity and Roche's Limit.
 
2013-02-16 01:45:48 PM

Scruffinator: garkola: How many earth hits does it take before "scientists" start saying "maybe we're inside a previously unknown meteor swarm" instead of "it must be a coincidence."

A lot more than two.


It's 3. They've been embargoing the news of the Cuban one.
 
2013-02-16 01:55:14 PM

WxGuy1: Is this the new "thing"? Every time a fireball is spotted somewhere in the world, we're going to be seeing a myriad of news mentions about it, thereby making it seem as though this is some extremely rare event? Got it.

/ Remember all of those "mass animal deaths" (birds falling from the sky, dead fish covering ponds and lakes, etc.) that were all the rage in the media a few years ago?
// Obvious exception to this "ugh, why is this a big deal" feeling was the event in Russia yesterday
/// It seems these types of things always start with a high-profile event, though


There's always a new "thing". Cruise ship fires, train derailments, food poisonings, shootings etc. That's just how the news machine works, apparently.
 
2013-02-16 02:08:28 PM

Kevin72: A lot more than two.

It's 3. They've been embargoing the news of the Cuban one.


3 is not "a lot more than two". It's about as little more-than-two as you can be. Keep counting...

i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-16 03:58:19 PM

rev. dave: CokeBear: rev. dave: So Cuba, Russia, and now California.   It suggests the asteroid had a few fragments travelling with it that we did not see.

Why does this meteor hate socialist places?

Well Russia is now more capitalist than the US.  But I get the point.


Crony capitalism != true capitalism (i.e., laissez-faire)
 
2013-02-16 04:03:28 PM
It's just because we're looking out for them more, paying more attention to them now, even if subconsciously.
They've always been here.
 
2013-02-16 05:09:46 PM
that was the most run of the mill shooting star ever. do people in california just not get those often or something?
 
2013-02-16 05:43:21 PM

NutWrench: GilRuiz1: Let's burn down the observatory so this never happens again!
[download.lardlad.com image 320x240]

Nightfall (Asimov short story and novel)


One of my favorite stories by Asimov.

=]
 
2013-02-16 05:53:32 PM
It is nothing less than the hand of God. He is trying to reach out to these Godless commies. If they choose not to accept His divine love, He will surely destroy them.
     
This is a shot across the bow. Do you believe yet? There's your proof. The Lord loves us but only has so much patience. We need to get right with Him and quickly. We need to round up all those who haven't accepted Jesus Christ and run them out of our country before we suffer God's wrath. It's coming.
 
2013-02-16 06:13:30 PM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Did not see your post before I mentioned camping as well. As a city girl, I'm not real keen on camping. However, it was ... awesome, in the original meaning of the word, to see all those "shooting stars". I'd like to see it again, just without the sleeping on the ground, peeing behind a bush and bathing with biodegradable soap in a stream parts.


The night sky is one of my very favorite parts of camping :)
For people who aren't into roughing it there are a number of ways to make the experience more comfortable.  There are some extra-thick inflating camping pads I've slept on that are as comfortable as many beds, and plenty of campgrounds have toilets -- if you're lucky, even flush toilets.  And while I don't think I've seen a campground with actual showers, you can buy a camping shower.  Basically it is a big black bag that you fill with water, it heats up the water by absorbing sunlight, and then you hang it from a tree and water comes out of an attached shower head.  I'm a city kid too, but I do love the outdoors.  Personally I think dragging all that extra stuff around sounds like more trouble than it's worth, but if it helps people get out once in a while and really enjoy nature then I am all for it.

Another thing you might try if you wanna just get out and see the night sky, is to find a society of amateur astronomers.  Sometimes those groups will have get-togethers where they head out of the light bubble with their telescopes, usually to the desert or something.  Often times they're happy to have people along who are just interested in learning, so if you can deal with all the astro-nerd talk, you could take a gander at the sky AND get to see some planets or nebulae or binary star systems and such through telescopes :)


italie: You were spot on until that last part. A 1/100 year event and a and a 1/1000 year event happening within 24 hours of each other is a pretty unique thing.


I'm not saying it isn't rare from our perspective, but in cosmic terms that isn't really that unique an event.  Besides, what are the parameters for those probabilities you're giving?  Are they based on size?  Proximity?  Are you only counting meteors that got just as close as AD14 did, or would a rock that crossed, say, a thousand miles further away still count?  Tossing numbers out into the air is meaningless without knowing what they're based on.
 
2013-02-16 06:19:40 PM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: I'd like to see it again


As an addendum, I noticed you're from California.  I'm not sure how far from it you are, but I highly recommend visiting Sequoia National Park.  It is generally a lot less crowded than Yosemite, they have some beautiful campgrounds with flush toilets, and the trees are absolutely shockingly enormous.  It is an incredibly impressive thing to see.
 
2013-02-16 06:25:46 PM

Ghastly: rev. dave: So Cuba, Russia, and now California.   It suggests the asteroid had a few fragments travelling with it that we did not see.

I don't know about the Cuban one, but the Russian meteor came in on an angle almost 90 degrees to the trajectory of the asteroid so it's just a co-incidence.


You can talk until you are blue in the face and a lot of people are just not going to listen. They just don't farkin get it. They don't realize that the Earth is rotating the Sun at roughly 67000 miles an HOUR and in the 14ish hours between the Russian meteorite and the Asteroid pass, the Earth was about 938,000 miles away from where it was when the meteor entered the atmosphere. Almost a MILLION miles away.

No matter what you say, they will continue to believe that the meteorite was a frickin piece of the asteroid or that the 2 meteoroids were travelling together or some such nonsense.
 
2013-02-16 06:53:37 PM

Ivo Shandor: Kevin72: A lot more than two.

It's 3. They've been embargoing the news of the Cuban one.

3 is not "a lot more than two". It's about as little more-than-two as you can be. Keep counting...

[i.imgur.com image 499x764]


Illustration of the great Leonid meteor storm of 1833.

Nice

=]
 
2013-02-16 09:24:05 PM

Kurmudgeon: Tyrone Slothrop: Any being that sends people to hell isn't worthy of being loved.

I'm sure the unrepentant murderers, rapists and the violent of history appreciate your support.
We do reap what we sow. Thank God for that free will you have, however, how you use it is on you.


Funny though, the christian god doesn't just send those "unrepentant murderers, rapists and the violent of history" you mentioned to hell does he? Even the good heathen is sent there. The christian god is an unrepentant psychopath unworthy of love or worship not just because he is BAD but because he is bad and believes he is good. At least pagan gods knew they were just as messed up as the people they expected to worship them. I'd sooner worhip at the feet of Cthulu than the "good" christian god I grew up with and I grew up in a fairly mild catholic family, not a fire and brimstone baptist one more common in America today.
 
2013-02-16 09:31:23 PM

SirLothar: /I think 10K tons is wildly exaggerated for something that small. Too lazy to do the math. Need coffee.


Gawdzila: A little back-of-the-napkin work shows that at 10,000 tons the meteor of that size would have to be, assuming a roughly spherical volume, about 6 times the density of iron.


Actually, check that.  I'm an idiot and it was late when I picked up my pencil.  10,000 tons would actually be pretty light for a meteor of that size, and would almost certainly make it non-metallic.  A mostly nickel-iron meteor of that size could actually weigh upwards of 70,000 tons or more, depending on how porous it was.
 
2013-02-16 10:02:01 PM

Bob Winsom: Was it this guy?


Well played sir.
 
2013-02-16 11:51:06 PM
www.forkedatfark.org
 
2013-02-17 12:28:35 AM

Ginnungagap42: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MarkEC: Deep Contact: It looked to slow to be a meteor.

What is the minimum speed for a meteor? I would think that one traveling in the same direction as the Earth in an elliptical orbit would tend to be a lot slower than the one in Russia. It probably has a lot to do with whether is breaks up or not too.

I've been toying with an idea for a story, but don't know if this is really possibly. Fark Advice, please.

A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest  and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?

Fark physicists, real and GED versions, please reply.

"Twice the size of Texas" is a body that is a little larger than half the size of the Moon, so what you're proposing would go down something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibV4MdN5wo0


I guess I wasn't clear. That video shows a side-swipe impact, not a tangental impact. But tangental I mean that the asteroid juuuuuussssst "clips" a single high point of the Earth (Everest). and then just keeps on going. As I said, very massive, but moving slowly (say, if with the rotation of the Earth (1000 mpg) maybe at a relative 500 or 1000`mph or even less (the Russian one was moving at at 40,000 mph?). This slow a passage would result in a shock wave, but not necessarily a world-destroying one. Stuff would fall off the asteroid and cause collateral damage. Lots of wind from air being pushed. Maybe electrical effects. The asteroid would be massive enough that Earth's gravity would NOT make it crash into the Earth. It just wipes out Everest, and probably everything within a thousand miles, and waves goodbye.....

Plausible? Possible?
 
2013-02-17 12:44:07 AM

assjuice: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MarkEC: Deep Contact: It looked to slow to be a meteor.

What is the minimum speed for a meteor? I would think that one traveling in the same direction as the Earth in an elliptical orbit would tend to be a lot slower than the one in Russia. It probably has a lot to do with whether is breaks up or not too.

I've been toying with an idea for a story, but don't know if this is really possibly. Fark Advice, please.

A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest  and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?

Fark physicists, real and GED versions, please reply.

Serious question: did you pay any attention in school after 3rd grade?


Sure it is. I can tell by the way you worded it.
 
2013-02-17 12:46:35 AM

RobSeace: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: One fun idea, just to see atheist heads explode, would be to fund the research to do a gigantic hoax, where a ginormous hologram of the Four Horseman would flash across the skies. Or maybe just a giant eyeball, or even an entire "old bearded white guy" face, looking down, frowning.

Surely, you meant theist heads exploding? I'd think most atheists would view it skeptically and try to explain it rationally, and would likely see through the hoax; it's the magic-believers who would unquestionably accept it for what you purport it to be, and therefore would shiat themselves in either fear or delight...


You have a point. It would actually be both (if done well enough).
 
2013-02-17 12:53:50 AM

neongoats: AverageAmericanGuy: The end times are here! Repent!
The end is nigh! Believe in Jesus and
Be spared the death and sorrow of
The Tribulation!
God loves you.
Won't you love Him?
Or will you die and burn in Hell?

My biggest regret, upon discovering the world ending will be that I didn't do enough to crush religion and make fundamentalists feel bad about themselves/cry more.

Ill take hell over you smarmy Jesus farks.


So it would be quite humorous if there IS a God, and you get judged, and put into Heaven because you have the courage of your convictions.

I bet you would sue to get out.

Hell would probably be more interesting.
 
2013-02-17 12:58:36 AM

Dilvias: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: MarkEC: Deep Contact: It looked to slow to be a meteor.

What is the minimum speed for a meteor? I would think that one traveling in the same direction as the Earth in an elliptical orbit would tend to be a lot slower than the one in Russia. It probably has a lot to do with whether is breaks up or not too.

I've been toying with an idea for a story, but don't know if this is really possibly. Fark Advice, please.

A really big-ass asteroid, let's say twice the size of the one in the Armageddon movie ("It's the size of Texas, Mr. President."), but more spherical, does a really close fly-by of the Earth, a very close tangent, but is moving relatively slowly (but not slowly enough for Earth's gravity to capture it). It is moving slowly enough that most kinetic energy effects are avoided. It grazes to tippy-top (say the top 3000 feet) of Mt. Everest  and then departs back into the Oort Cloud. What would be the results?

Fark physicists, real and GED versions, please reply.


If it is from the Oort cloud, we are talking about a comet, rather than an asterod, so more of a dirty snowmall, or an icy dirtball depending on the type.  Also, people really underestimate how much rocks weigh.  Halley's comet, only 15x8x8 kilometers (nowhere near the "size of texas" you were talking about) weighs 3x1014 kgs, or approximately 300 billion tons.  Also, thanks to orbital mechanics, if it comes anywhere near the surface (depending on the speed), the orbit will almost certainly pass through the earth, or in other words, Boom.

There may be a few very specific cases where the orbit just barely misses, but with something that size the tides and air compression will make it a very bad day here on earth.  Not to mention getting that close to the nucleus means lots of surface material will still strike the earth anyway.


Your point about the Oort Cloud is probably well taken. Though we really don't know what else is in in other than dirty snowballs. By "asteroid" I was thinking "solid body" and there could be some of those there, too.

Yes, the tides and wind would be a bummer. but probably not world-enders, I'm thinking.

You would end up with a lot of pissed off people and new space programs.
 
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