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(National Post)   If you work at a beer store, find a vodka bottle filled with wiper fluid, drink it over the course of two days, and then die, hey, it's your employers fault not yours. O Canada   (news.nationalpost.com) divider line 77
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2013-02-16 04:12:47 AM

neilio42: Anybody who steals shiat, drinks the shiat, and dies because the shiat is poison... well, we are probably better off without him.
Sorry for his family/friends, but I have no sympathy for him.


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2013-02-16 04:25:00 AM
Anybody with any legal knowledge know that this is pretty standard example of negligence and vicarious liability. If you don't know what that mean, look it up on wikipedia.
 
2013-02-16 04:44:32 AM
When I first visited Canada, I went to get some beer after work to take back to my hotel. I visited a couple of convenience stores with no beer, so I asked and they told me I had to go to the beer store. I thought they meant a package store, so I asked directions and had to drive about 10 minutes, but sure enough I shortly passed a place that had a sign outside that simply said "Beer Store."
If you have never been to a beer store in Canada, I highly recommend it; such awesomeness is a sight to behold.
 
2013-02-16 05:37:00 AM

2 Replies: neilio42: Anybody who steals shiat, drinks the shiat, and dies because the shiat is poison... well, we are probably better off without him.
Sorry for his family/friends, but I have no sympathy for him.

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Again, it was an already open bottle of liquor as far as he was aware.  It was already a loss for the store.  The only theft would be from the municipal sewage system when the store dumped it down the drain because they couldn't sell it.
 
2013-02-16 05:37:29 AM

iserlohn: Anybody with any legal knowledge know that this is pretty standard example of negligence and vicarious liability. If you don't know what that mean, look it up on wikipedia.


Or you could find out how verbs work.
 
2013-02-16 05:39:32 AM

pyrotek85: doglover: Windshield washer fluid is sold in many formulations, and some may require dilution before being applied, although most solutions available in North America come premixed with no diluting required. The most common washer fluid solutions are given labels such as "All-Season", "Bug Remover", or "De-icer", and usually are a combination of solvents with a detergent. Dilution factors will vary depending on season, for example in winter the dilution factor may be 1:1, whereas during summer the dilution factor may be 1:10. It is sometimes sold as sachet of crystals, which is also diluted with water. Distilled water is the preferred diluent, since it will not leave trace mineral deposits on the glass.

Anti-freeze, or methylated spirits, may be added to a mixture to give the product a lower freezing temperature. But methanol vapor is harmful when breathed in, so more popular now is an ethanol winter mix, e.g. PAV[clarification needed], water, ethanol (or isopropanol), and ethylene glycol.


So yeah, it probably had enough alcohol in it that he didn't notice he was also drinking poisonous solvents.

But aside from taste, my question is would he even get drunk off of it? If not and it just made him sick, wouldn't he suspect something was up?


Yes you get drunk on methyl alcohol.
 
2013-02-16 05:51:36 AM
"The one who passed away took the remainder of the bottle home and over the next two days drank the remainder of the liquid,"


upload.wikimedia.org

Ya don't say.


I can see why the WHMIS did the fine thing although 218k seems a bit high but no sympathy for stupid dead thief guy.

None, nada, zilch.

The company's last major Occupational Health and Safety violation was a $50,000 fine for a 2009 incident in which a forklift operator in Stoney Creek, Ont., jostled a storage rack, causing several cases of beer to fall to the ground.

That, on the other hand, is a farking tragedy.
 
2013-02-16 06:04:36 AM
Deece:Yeah.  To me it sounds like the guy was a farkin' idiot, and everyone knew it, but Brewers Retail decided they'd look like a buncha dicks if they fought it, so they just rolled over.  Good on 'em.

I assume most large businesses have insurance for lawsuits. The company probably won't pay a dime, so they can play nice all day long.
 
2013-02-16 06:14:27 AM

shiattynick: When I first visited Canada, I went to get some beer after work to take back to my hotel. I visited a couple of convenience stores with no beer, so I asked and they told me I had to go to the beer store. I thought they meant a package store, so I asked directions and had to drive about 10 minutes, but sure enough I shortly passed a place that had a sign outside that simply said "Beer Store."
If you have never been to a beer store in Canada, I highly recommend it; such awesomeness is a sight to behold.


Just beer, that's it...beer. No wine, no whisky, no liqueurs, nothing but beer. You go up to the counter, tell them what beer you want, pay, and it comes down on rollers. ON ROLLERS MAN! How farking cool is that!

/it's also a farking monopoly that needs to be broken up, but that's another story.
 
2013-02-16 06:15:22 AM
Although there's no mention of it in the article, I can't help but wonder if this guy may have been mentally disabled/ developmentally challenged. With all due respect to those in the delivery truck washing industry, it seems like the sort of job that such a person would be able to hold. I used to work with a guy with Down Syndrome, and he had both a magpie-esque habit of taking and hoarding objects he found while cleaning (he was a theatre usher), and a propensity for binge consuming questionable foodstuffs (I once saw him drink an entire 2 litre bottle of Coke during a 15 minute break). If this actually were the case with the guy in the article, it might lessen the "no sympathy" vibe in this thread.
 
2013-02-16 06:27:51 AM
Now I do love the beer store, but it is run by the two largest brewers in the country, and screws over the craft brewers
 
2013-02-16 06:34:39 AM

Relatively Obscure: iserlohn: Anybody with any legal knowledge know that this is pretty standard example of negligence and vicarious liability. If you don't know what that mean, look it up on wikipedia.

Or you could find out how verbs work.


/FIFY
//Yes, typing this from my phone as well. Isn't soft keyboard great?
 
2013-02-16 07:40:23 AM
Ontario and Alberta:  America's 51st and 52nd states
 
2013-02-16 08:50:32 AM
Like the_sidewinder pointed out pretty much right away, this is a blatant violation of WHMIS policy.  Any potentially hazardous materials must be properly labelled, even if you're not necessarily expecting people to drink them.

You can call the guy a moron all you want, but The Beer Store (not a beer store) broke labour law and was consequently fined.  Fair, next, stow the outrage, subby.
 
2013-02-16 09:10:01 AM

clane: Liberal's are funny


Your apostrophe permit is hereby revoked.
 
2013-02-16 09:13:01 AM

justneal: Now I do love the beer store, but it is run by the two largest brewers in the country, and screws over the craft brewers


More details...

http://www.blogto.com/eat_drink/2012/07/revisiting_the_beer_store_mo no poly_and_why_it_sucks/
 
2013-02-16 09:36:28 AM
"Brewers Retail Inc. pleaded guilty to failing to acquaint a worker with a hazard in the handling, storage or use of a liquid chemical agent," read a Friday afternoon statement by the Ontario Ministry of Labour.

This is what I have a problem with, the wording of the ruling.  Do not get me wrong, the store in my opinion is clearly guilty of neglect, but that wording seems a bit dodgy to me.  I makes me think that if he had actually been drinking Windex out of a Windex bottle and died that the store would still have been guilty if they had not expressly told the worker, "Do not drink the Windex."
 
2013-02-16 09:58:20 AM

Mock26: "Brewers Retail Inc. pleaded guilty to failing to acquaint a worker with a hazard in the handling, storage or use of a liquid chemical agent," read a Friday afternoon statement by the Ontario Ministry of Labour.

This is what I have a problem with, the wording of the ruling.  Do not get me wrong, the store in my opinion is clearly guilty of neglect, but that wording seems a bit dodgy to me.  I makes me think that if he had actually been drinking Windex out of a Windex bottle and died that the store would still have been guilty if they had not expressly told the worker, "Do not drink the Windex."


The way I read it, they got fined because they didn't stop/discipline/educate the employees who were putting the washer fluid in vodka bottles without a warning sticker.

Not because they didn't tell the dead yokel not to drink unknown liquids.  If the bottle had the chemical warning sticker on it I would bet they would not have been fined.
 
2013-02-16 10:36:08 AM
$200K may sound like a lot.
But really, its a small price to pay to remove that idiot from the gene pool.
 
2013-02-16 10:37:57 AM
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Iron Felix: ...nice doglover...I'll also add that it sounds as if they were just refilling jugs from a bulk dispensing system which is probably some home brew to begin with (no pun intended).  Funny its the beer store though, as they don't sell liquor.


The Beer Store is where Ontarians can return all empty alcoholic beverage containers for refund. Although they only sell beer, they'll have lots of empty liquor bottles sitting around.
 
2013-02-16 10:41:42 AM
I'd rather have this bottle in front of me.......


/than a frontal lobotomy
 
2013-02-16 11:16:37 AM

Mock26: "Brewers Retail Inc. pleaded guilty to failing to acquaint a worker with a hazard in the handling, storage or use of a liquid chemical agent," read a Friday afternoon statement by the Ontario Ministry of Labour.

This is what I have a problem with, the wording of the ruling.  Do not get me wrong, the store in my opinion is clearly guilty of neglect, but that wording seems a bit dodgy to me.  I makes me think that if he had actually been drinking Windex out of a Windex bottle and died that the store would still have been guilty if they had not expressly told the worker, "Do not drink the Windex."


That is probably true. Workplace health and safety regs usually require an MSDS for any chemical on the premises that an employee could be required to use.
 
2013-02-16 12:35:32 PM
Transplanted Ontarian here, can anyone give me the back story why Beer and Liquor are sold by two different entities -The Beer Store (Brewer's Retail - a private monopoly) and LCBO (a provincial crown corporation)? I always thought it was weird... not to mention inconvenient.
 
2013-02-16 12:36:45 PM
... and you can buy beer at an LCBO (but no liquor at a Beer Store)
 
2013-02-16 02:05:24 PM

Cletus from Canuckistan: Transplanted Ontarian here, can anyone give me the back story why Beer and Liquor are sold by two different entities -The Beer Store (Brewer's Retail - a private monopoly) and LCBO (a provincial crown corporation)? I always thought it was weird... not to mention inconvenient.


Brewer's Retail is jointly operated by the brewers whose beer is sold.  The LCBO is a government run entity, with a monopoly on retail alcohol sales, but there is a carve out to that monopoly for brewers/vintners etc. I think the Beer Store actually has a seperate carve out. It's more accurate to say the LCBO has the monopoly.

In terms of selection, the LCBO tends to carry imported or speciality beers, which the brewers who run the Beer Store are not terribly interested in selling. Unless ythe LCBO has no nearby Beer Store, in which case they'll also stock the regular old brands of beer.
 
2013-02-16 05:11:49 PM
Typical lazy corporate bullshiat. It's so aggravating that middle management takes the pussy route of managing employees out instead of confronting poor performance.
 
2013-02-17 09:54:24 PM
I've pressed empty 1.75L vodka bottles into service as mixed antifreeze containers before. The trace drops of alcohol left over isn't going to hurt anything, and the neck works well for pouring.
 
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