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(National Post)   If you work at a beer store, find a vodka bottle filled with wiper fluid, drink it over the course of two days, and then die, hey, it's your employers fault not yours. O Canada   (news.nationalpost.com) divider line 77
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2013-02-16 12:14:00 AM  
Last time I checked, vodak wasn't blue.
 
2013-02-16 12:14:47 AM  
Can you even get drunk on that like regular alchohol? I thought it just makes you sick and kills you outright (which is apparently what happened).
 
2013-02-16 12:16:18 AM  

Elmo Jones: Last time I checked, vodak wasn't blue.


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2013-02-16 12:16:25 AM  
Article makes it sound like employees knowingly put the fluid in the vodak bottle, and without labeling with the appropriate WHMIS tag, which is the job of management to make sure they understand why the why and how of doing this

/I have little sympathy for the victim, but I am not surprised by the ruling
 
2013-02-16 12:16:54 AM  

Elmo Jones: Last time I checked, vodak wasn't blue.


Who knows with all the flavored ones around these days.


Anyway, the basic issue is putting poison in a food container.  That creates a hazard.
 
2013-02-16 12:17:38 AM  
Liberal's are funny
 
2013-02-16 12:23:19 AM  
heh, I have a vodka bottle full of antifreeze in my garage.
 
2013-02-16 12:23:50 AM  
Simpsons did it!

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2013-02-16 12:25:14 AM  
It could have been worse.

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2013-02-16 12:26:08 AM  
I guess its like decon for bums
 
2013-02-16 12:27:42 AM  
I'd just like to know what brand the bottle was, because the regular drink is so bad that it apparently can't be distinguished from windshield cleaner fluid. Though to be fair, I've never actually had any windshield cleaner fluid myself, so for all I know it does taste like vodka.
 
2013-02-16 12:27:49 AM  
Welcome, Employees, to Day 56 of your Training and Orientation Program.  Please turn to page732 or your Training Manual, and remember what we learned on Day 1 when we talked about he hazards of paper cuts, the danger of heavy objects, and the threat of choking if you eat the paper!  Our topic today is "Water and Drinking Fountains: the Hidden Threat of Drowning."  Now, as you all learned yesterday when we discussed Sinks and Drowning......
 
2013-02-16 12:29:57 AM  

Loren: Anyway, the basic issue is putting poison in a food container. That creates a hazard.


I would say that's one of the top twenty life rules.

\Not surprised at the ruling.
 
2013-02-16 12:30:01 AM  
Yeah. Not saying stealing vodka was OK, but that was pretty negligent on the company's part.
 
2013-02-16 12:30:29 AM  
You know, I almost feel sorry about the amber-filled 40-oz bottles I left in gas station trash cans all across the SE US on my last road trip...
 
2013-02-16 12:33:35 AM  
So I have, on occasion, rinsed my mouth with windshield washer fluid.  Three times, to be exact.  It feels exactly like Listerine.

/Works like Listerine, too.
 
2013-02-16 12:34:26 AM  

thisisarepeat: heh, I have a vodka bottle full of antifreeze in my garage.


Ecto Cooler flavored vodka?
 
2013-02-16 12:37:05 AM  
Anybody who steals shiat, drinks the shiat, and dies because the shiat is poison... well, we are probably better off without him.  Sorry for his family/friends, but I have no sympathy for him.
 
2013-02-16 12:38:45 AM  
Better Nate than Lever.
 
2013-02-16 12:43:01 AM  

the_sidewinder: Article makes it sound like employees knowingly put the fluid in the vodak bottle, and without labeling with the appropriate WHMIS tag, which is the job of management to make sure they understand why the why and how of doing this

/I have little sympathy for the victim, but I am not surprised by the ruling


Ditto.  Except I have no sympathy for the victim.  I'm no expert on the taste of cleaning products but would't windshield washing fluid taste terrible?  Why would he keep drinking it?

Ya gotta label that shiat because you never know when someone's going to come along and find one of your re-purposed containers.  Last year, I was doing laundry in my grandpa's old house and needed some stain remover.  Opened the cabinet above the washer and there was a spray bottle of Shout.  Well, not really.  I sprayed my shirt with glass cleaner.  I'm lucky it wasn't bleach or something that would have ruined the shirt.
 
2013-02-16 12:43:34 AM  

Oznog: Elmo Jones: Last time I checked, vodak wasn't blue.

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2013-02-16 12:44:41 AM  

clane: Liberal's are funny


Yeah.  Thi's ruling and other's like it don't surprise me at all.
 
2013-02-16 12:45:45 AM  

TomD9938: It could have been worse.

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Thats spelled wong
 
2013-02-16 12:45:56 AM  
Why the asinine label? This is negligence. Why on earth was there a practice of putting washer fluid in vodka bottles? Too cheap to get some properly labeled bottles I suppose. Yeah, companies will regulate themselves. And why put any money into education? If you are stupid enough to have a blue - collar job, you deserve to die.
 
2013-02-16 12:49:45 AM  

Goatspunk: Better Nate than Lever.


yep
 
2013-02-16 12:53:25 AM  

jtown: Ditto. Except I have no sympathy for the victim. I'm no expert on the taste of cleaning products but would't windshield washing fluid taste terrible? Why would he keep drinking it?


Between methanol and ethylene glycol, I bet it actually did taste like a lot like a nasty flavored vodka. Kind of like the thing you'd expect from the electric blue color.
 
2013-02-16 12:55:14 AM  
His family hit the Darwin lottery.
 
2013-02-16 12:55:22 AM  
If one of their forklift drivers hit a rack and dropped 2 cases of beer, why would you report it if there's a $50,000 fine?
 
2013-02-16 12:59:33 AM  

clane: Liberal's are funny


So are superfluous apostrophes.

/Hahahahahee-ooowheeeee.
 
2013-02-16 01:01:50 AM  
Windshield washer fluid is sold in many formulations, and some may require dilution before being applied, although most solutions available in North America come premixed with no diluting required. The most common washer fluid solutions are given labels such as "All-Season", "Bug Remover", or "De-icer", and usually are a combination of solvents with a detergent. Dilution factors will vary depending on season, for example in winter the dilution factor may be 1:1, whereas during summer the dilution factor may be 1:10. It is sometimes sold as sachet of crystals, which is also diluted with water. Distilled water is the preferred diluent, since it will not leave trace mineral deposits on the glass.

Anti-freeze, or methylated spirits, may be added to a mixture to give the product a lower freezing temperature. But methanol vapor is harmful when breathed in, so more popular now is an ethanol winter mix, e.g. PAV[clarification needed], water, ethanol (or isopropanol), and ethylene glycol.



So yeah, it probably had enough alcohol in it that he didn't notice he was also drinking poisonous solvents.
 
2013-02-16 01:09:51 AM  
In the alcohol business (not in the US), some washer fluid is made of ethyl alcohol mixed with traces of detergent.  It's an environmental regulation in some countries, also they won't necessarily add dye as they do in the US.  The manufacturers are very particular about smell, requiring that the alcohol be as "neutral" as possible - ie not having an alcohol type smell - I visited a lab where by smell alone, the finished product seemed very drinkable, though it still contained the toxins that can make you very ill a la bathtub gin, but worse.
 
2013-02-16 01:13:49 AM  
Sounds like the fine is for the safety violation, not the death per se.

Or maybe I just like to say "per se."

It's too bad, though. The penalty for being a thief isn't supposed to be death. He just made a stupid mistake. And sometimes, stupidity kills.

"Hey, y'all, hold my washer fluid and watch this!"
 
2013-02-16 01:14:04 AM  
never drink the blue fluid , NEVER!
 
2013-02-16 01:16:25 AM  
...nice doglover...I'll also add that it sounds as if they were just refilling jugs from a bulk dispensing system which is probably some home brew to begin with (no pun intended).  Funny its the beer store though, as they don't sell liquor.
 
2013-02-16 01:21:14 AM  
FTA: "Brewers Retail Inc. pleaded guilty..."

Well, there you go.
 
2013-02-16 01:22:15 AM  
Just Darwin thinning the herd. Too bad it cost $218K.
 
2013-02-16 01:28:12 AM  

doglover: Windshield washer fluid is sold in many formulations, and some may require dilution before being applied, although most solutions available in North America come premixed with no diluting required. The most common washer fluid solutions are given labels such as "All-Season", "Bug Remover", or "De-icer", and usually are a combination of solvents with a detergent. Dilution factors will vary depending on season, for example in winter the dilution factor may be 1:1, whereas during summer the dilution factor may be 1:10. It is sometimes sold as sachet of crystals, which is also diluted with water. Distilled water is the preferred diluent, since it will not leave trace mineral deposits on the glass.

Anti-freeze, or methylated spirits, may be added to a mixture to give the product a lower freezing temperature. But methanol vapor is harmful when breathed in, so more popular now is an ethanol winter mix, e.g. PAV[clarification needed], water, ethanol (or isopropanol), and ethylene glycol.


So yeah, it probably had enough alcohol in it that he didn't notice he was also drinking poisonous solvents.


But aside from taste, my question is would he even get drunk off of it? If not and it just made him sick, wouldn't he suspect something was up?
 
2013-02-16 01:29:34 AM  

thisisarepeat: heh, I have a vodka bottle full of antifreeze in my garage.


If someone drank that and died...?
 
2013-02-16 01:30:52 AM  

Loren: Elmo Jones: Last time I checked, vodak wasn't blue.

Who knows with all the flavored ones around these days.


Anyway, the basic issue is putting poison in a food container.  That creates a hazard.


I won't argue that vodak isn't food, but many would. :-)
 
2013-02-16 01:31:22 AM  

the_sidewinder: Article makes it sound like employees knowingly put the fluid in the vodak bottle, and without labeling with the appropriate WHMIS tag, which is the job of management to make sure they understand why the why and how of doing this

/I have little sympathy for the victim, but I am not surprised by the ruling


Yeah.  To me it sounds like the guy was a farkin' idiot, and everyone knew it, but Brewers Retail decided they'd look like a buncha dicks if they fought it, so they just rolled over.  Good on 'em.
 
2013-02-16 01:38:41 AM  

the_sidewinder: Article makes it sound like employees knowingly put the fluid in the vodak bottle, and without labeling with the appropriate WHMIS tag, which is the job of management to make sure they understand why the why and how of doing this

/I have little sympathy for the victim, but I am not surprised by the ruling


looks like the WHMIS tag is the same as an MSDS label so yeah. we got fined for not having secondary cans labeled. paint cans. like anyone would chug down a little just to see how it went. but once fined you have to be extra diligent because another violation is "willful" and those cost.
 
2013-02-16 01:46:50 AM  

pyrotek85: But aside from taste, my question is would he even get drunk off of it? If not and it just made him sick, wouldn't he suspect something was up?


Oh yeah he'd get drunk if it were methyl alcohol.  A short attempt at googling leads to a New York times article from 1921, which says there is no way for a ordinary person to tell the difference.

So yeah the "beer store' totally deserves to get bent over by the health and safety guys.
 
2013-02-16 01:54:36 AM  

the_sidewinder: Article makes it sound like employees knowingly put the fluid in the vodak bottle, and without labeling with the appropriate WHMIS tag, which is the job of management to make sure they understand why the why and how of doing this

/I have little sympathy for the victim, but I am not surprised by the ruling


It was here:

Found behind the seat of a truck, the still-labeled bottle was there due to a since-discontinued practice of Beer Store truck drivers taking empty liquor bottles and filling them with windshield washer fluid dispensed from a large vat. (Why Canadian reporters write in passive tense waits for another injunction, I guess)

So the employer was negligent in not reminding everyone to throw out their liquor bottles full of wiper fluid and replace them with actual bottles of clearly labeled Windex or whatever; and the employer probably didn't appeal because inevitably they were going to have to answer the question: "Why were you even doing that in the first place?"

As to why the guy would keep drinking the stuff: I just learned to my horror (via NatGeo Channel) that people will even drink hair spray to get drunk if they have nothing else, and the only thing worse tasting than hair spray is nail polish. So probably Windex tastes just lovely. [shudder]
 
2013-02-16 02:02:49 AM  

Gyrfalcon: the_sidewinder: Article makes it sound like employees knowingly put the fluid in the vodak bottle, and without labeling with the appropriate WHMIS tag, which is the job of management to make sure they understand why the why and how of doing this

/I have little sympathy for the victim, but I am not surprised by the ruling

It was here:

Found behind the seat of a truck, the still-labeled bottle was there due to a since-discontinued practice of Beer Store truck drivers taking empty liquor bottles and filling them with windshield washer fluid dispensed from a large vat. (Why Canadian reporters write in passive tense waits for another injunction, I guess)

So the employer was negligent in not reminding everyone to throw out their liquor bottles full of wiper fluid and replace them with actual bottles of clearly labeled Windex or whatever; and the employer probably didn't appeal because inevitably they were going to have to answer the question: "Why were you even doing that in the first place?"

As to why the guy would keep drinking the stuff: I just learned to my horror (via NatGeo Channel) that people will even drink hair spray to get drunk if they have nothing else, and the only thing worse tasting than hair spray is nail polish. So probably Windex tastes just lovely. [shudder]


When I was a teen I got sent to rehab by my parents (long story) but the place wouldn't let you keep your own deodorant, mouthwash, etc in you're room they kept it locked in a closet for that reason.
 
2013-02-16 02:12:12 AM  

pyrotek85: But aside from taste, my question is would he even get drunk off of it?


Off nearly pure ethanol with some solvents added? Whiskey is only 40% booze. That's 60% of your mixture for stuff.
 
2013-02-16 02:43:28 AM  
Thief is a bit much to accuse him of.  Assuming the bottle had been opened to put the washer fluid in it, it was already a loss for the company.  Odds are they'd have had to dump it.  Not reporting someone else's pilferage when he found an opened bottle hidden in the back of the supply closet might be closer to the truth, but even at that one could figure he assumed a customer opened it and whoever had found it felt the same as he did about 'wasting' alcohol.

He's not a criminal, he's a Farker.  Or was.
 
2013-02-16 03:02:02 AM  

neilio42: Anybody who steals shiat, drinks the shiat, and dies because the shiat is poison... well, we are probably better off without him.  Sorry for his family/friends, but I have no sympathy for him.


I couldn't agree more.  If he hadn't stolen it, he wouldn't have drunk it and would still be alive today.  He brought it on himself.
 
2013-02-16 03:09:04 AM  
My guess is they were already drunk when they started drinking it.
 
2013-02-16 03:43:03 AM  

pyrotek85: Can you even get drunk on that like regular alchohol? I thought it just makes you sick and kills you outright (which is apparently what happened).


You can, the problem is when your body metabolizes it, it forms formaldehyde.  Might also be something involving crystals in your kidneys, although that may be ethylene glycol.  It's chemically close enough to ethanol that the prevention/cure for methanol poisoning used to be large quantities of ethanol, which would overload your system and allow your body to pass the methanol out instead of metabolizing it.  Nowadays they have inhibitors instead.  AFAIK a little bit of that stuff in a can of beer would have you falling-over drunk for a day or so...

Ethanol is just one of those funny poisonous solvents that is a common enough aftereffect in food (fermented fruit, anyone?) that we're able to safely metabolize it.
 
2013-02-16 04:10:29 AM  

Gyrfalcon: As to why the guy would keep drinking the stuff: I just learned to my horror (via NatGeo Channel) that people will even drink hair spray to get drunk if they have nothing else, and the only thing worse tasting than hair spray is nail polish. So probably Windex tastes just lovely. [shudder]


A long time ago, a friend of a friend brought some other friend to my house. The chick went to the bathroom and stayed in there for about a half hour. The next day I noticed that my brand new, giant economy size bottle of Listerine was empty. Frickin' biatch.
 
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